If all of Chibnall's series had been interwoven and Tecteun was the main baddy, it could have been an epic story arc. But alas, poor writing prevented it
Jodie Whittaker is utterly incredible. Flat out, I said it. She just completely shone in Flux, I think she's always been brilliant but in this series in particular I was constantly captivated by her performance and scenes like this really just prove that: particularly - 1:02 - 1:07 and 2:57 - 3:10. Fantastic acting! (and the music is amazing too - S13 soundtrack release soon? please?)
also not about Jodie but can we also show some appreciation for Mandip as Yaz too, particularly at 3:06 - her response to the Doctor is heartbreaking, she looks hurt by the Doctor shouting at her but she still is trying to be there for her and the way she says "alright..." So good! I have nothing but love for these two wonderful actresses!
I cant say Jodie's performance has grabbed me since the first episode. She's had fits and starts with me where I like somethings, but really I don't like her acting choices. I see what you mean about this scene she did step it up in this scene and I do feel like this has been her strongest series. I'm glad you have connected with her Doctor. Every new Doctor is someone's first or favourite Doctor. I just couldn't connect with her and it took me a long time to admit it because I really wanted to like her Doctor. Here's hoping she gets a great regeneration story
@@Fallows-rh3mi I think that's the most important thing. Every Doctor IS someone's Doctor - Jodie's Doctor is the Doctor to an entire generation and I think that is one of the best parts of the show, many kids now are going to grow up and Jodie will have been THEIR Doctor and this their Doctor Who. It continually inspires generations. That's wonderful I think. And I'm very interested to see how Jodie's run will come to an end, I am going to be very sad when she does regenerate but hopefully she goes out on a real high, I absolutely loved Flux and I'm looking forward to seeing what the specials will bring, especially the last one which from what has been teased could be quite the interesting one!
How To Make Bad ideas Extremely Pure Good idea 1. Invent time machine. 2. Travel to 22nd century. 3. Invent a machine that can change probability to make probability certain that Bad ideas are Extremely Pure Good idea Forever.
@Mahroo Mizani We should boycott the BBC over Christmas and send a message to them. I’m lucky if I watch them at all these days. The Food Network and Horror Channel on Freeview is much more enjoyable.
Yeah if they bring on board Andrew Cartmel to fix this crap with him The irony is the BritishButtCrack hated the plans to make the doctor more than just another timelord, but at least Cartmel knew the meaning of subtlety and didn't use a sledgehammer
@@AubreeGames Agree 100% with you, but Whitaker's portrayal and the heavy pushing of "The Message" is just over the top. The whole Whitaker run is just a mess and The Flux was just ridiculous.
All these years, all these adventures… only to make The Doctor a victim. A spectator in their own story. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Once, before, The Doctor was a force of nature, they were the Oncoming Storm. With wit, guile and determination they faced horrors that sent the sane man (or woman) screaming for the hills. They were the thing that gave Evil nightmares. They faced down gods, and things that ate gods like breath mints with aplomb. This simpering, screeching little waif isn’t The Doctor. She’s not even up to the level of a Companion. There’s no strength here, no power. No greatness and certainly no Doctor. The sooner Chibnall leaves, taking his sycophants, boot licking toadies and other hangers-on the better.
The Doctor has always been somewhat of a victim. A victim of their own kind, a victim of the time war. Always to some degree - a victim. That's not new.
@@PD-gt1dm NO. Not always and not a victim! They chose to leave Galiefray in defiance of the Council of Time Lords. They were the survivor of the Time War, not it’s victim. The Doctor demonstrates the power of saying No. No I will not standby and do nothing, no I will not surrender… NO, I will not be the victim(!) The Doctor stands for their beliefs; the rights of all sentient life. They will bend and break every rule to wipe the tears from the eyes of a child, because they know anything that would stop them should be defied, smashed and ignored. The whole point of the Doctor is that they show us how we should act, how we should face fear and despair. With logic, intelligence and wisdom. When we see those that can’t fight we should, we must, fight to save them. This is the idea of the Doctor. The wise”man”, the teacher. Those that make others better. By action, by example, by ideal. Saying that the Doctor is just another victim cheapens that. It suggests that they are doing this from regret, or vengeance, not the highest ideals of compassion and determination. A good person can’t simply be a good person, they have to be broken in some way. Compassion is not an injury, morals are not something you win through abuse. We can be, we ARE better than that.
@@PD-gt1dm well of course you can be a victim and a survivor, otherwise you're a victim and dead. One, however, does not automatically denote the other. The Doctor fought (eventually) in the Time War, he was a participant. You don't describe soldiers as victims. Generals are not victims. They may be casualties, but again that does not make them "victims". I have not reworded anything, I am not obfuscating the matter. Yes The Doctor has been attacked and hurt many times, but they have always responded. They have never been helpless. Not until the latest few seasons.
@@ThomasFishwick you know you can be a victim of something without dying right? Also the doctor DID die many times to the things they were a victim of. The timelords forced 2 to regenerate to 3 for exile to earth, meaning they killed him. The doctor died so many times, and has trauma because of the stuff they have seen in all the lives they have lived. 11 felt true grief when the Brigadier died, 9 had to learn to be a Doctor again after being a warrior for so many years, 10 dealt with grief about his own death and the loss of Rose. 12 had to deal with knowing he would see River for the last time before his past self gave her consciousness a new life in the Supercomputer. The Doctor almost always was a victim of some event, person, or group. The doctor has to live knowing his slower aging and ability to regenerate will ensure they will always see their friends and companions eventually die besides Captain Jack. Which the doctor knows how Jack will die too, at the end if the universe after warning 10 about the master's return. The doctor also has trauma knowing he lead to the fall of gallifrey, and until 11 found out that gallifrey was saved by all 13 Doctors at the time. The doctor has been a victim in nearly every face they've had, this series just showed it more upfront instead of having it be more subtle with clues and little details in dialogue said and actions done/shown in the series.
I can't wait to see who it is, but unfortunately we have to wait almost two years for it. Still, at least we've got a few episodes until then. I can't wait to see what happens in Eve of the Daleks
I was a bit annoyed with the mouri because it just seemed like Chibnall destroyed the Time Lords just to make another race like the Time Lords when he could have just used the Time Lords. If they'd have linked to The Doctor's origins a bit more then yeah but they were kind of just there for the fugitive doctor stuff. I hope they expand later
So sad that the hero of all boys for decades has now been stolen from them. Not only is Doctor Who now a woman (who calls herself "the upgrade" so we understand that men are a notch down), playing out prissy, Buffy-like storylines, but apparently it has now been determined that she was originally a girl. If the idea is to create an interesting series for girls (which this now is), why does it mean destroying what was created for boys? This is the work of the equity-obsessed Langoliers of the BBC wreaking wokeness and inculcating yet more fake history.
Snowflake alert. In a fictional make-believe show, it’s the gender of the lead actor that triggers you? We’ve had decades of great male role models though the doctor. Why is it so upsetting women can now also benefit from the show?
@@moshah1690 Sorry if you are triggered, take a deep breath and you'll be ok. Then re-read and try to follow what I said. There is no limit to the scope for role for the other gender. There is no need to usurp this one.
Why can’t the doctor be a role model for both girls and boys simultaneously? They are an alien after all, the fact that their gender can change should not be a big issue . Missy’s incarnation of the master was a big clue that the doctor would eventually have a female incarnation too. Who knows, the next doctor might be a man again but either way it really shouldn’t matter too much.
Literally log off lol. Go outside. Touch some grass. Please bro. The fact that the doctor is or has been a girl or a woman does not mean they can’t be a role model for boys or men too.
To everyone complaining about this being canon, it's the Doctor's new origin story. They're starting from season 1. It's canon, whether you like it or not. And I will love Jodie's Doctor as much as any other.
When you're falling through time and your life's on the line,
That's a Mouri
hahahahahah
well played.....thread over
That’s Brilliant
@@markmangan2409 Dirk Remmington: well played.....thread over
Hehheh😅
Honestly, Tecteun was a Master tier villain, she used the Doctor, ruined her life, and unleashed the Flux saying it was her fault.
classic abusive mom tactics
If all of Chibnall's series had been interwoven and Tecteun was the main baddy, it could have been an epic story arc. But alas, poor writing prevented it
Mouri: "We got the DNA test back. Test results say...you ARE the Timeless Child!"
Master runs out of the room screaming
"This test says you were LYING"
It looks like someone passed the f**king test.👍
This story is excellent. Definitely a highlight of this era.
“How should we represent these beings powerful enough to withstand the force of Time???”
“PNGs”
"Yeah, makes sense."
Jodie Whittaker is utterly incredible. Flat out, I said it. She just completely shone in Flux, I think she's always been brilliant but in this series in particular I was constantly captivated by her performance and scenes like this really just prove that: particularly - 1:02 - 1:07 and 2:57 - 3:10. Fantastic acting! (and the music is amazing too - S13 soundtrack release soon? please?)
also not about Jodie but can we also show some appreciation for Mandip as Yaz too, particularly at 3:06 - her response to the Doctor is heartbreaking, she looks hurt by the Doctor shouting at her but she still is trying to be there for her and the way she says "alright..." So good! I have nothing but love for these two wonderful actresses!
Can't say I agree
I cant say Jodie's performance has grabbed me since the first episode. She's had fits and starts with me where I like somethings, but really I don't like her acting choices.
I see what you mean about this scene she did step it up in this scene and I do feel like this has been her strongest series.
I'm glad you have connected with her Doctor. Every new Doctor is someone's first or favourite Doctor. I just couldn't connect with her and it took me a long time to admit it because I really wanted to like her Doctor.
Here's hoping she gets a great regeneration story
@@Fallows-rh3mi I think that's the most important thing. Every Doctor IS someone's Doctor - Jodie's Doctor is the Doctor to an entire generation and I think that is one of the best parts of the show, many kids now are going to grow up and Jodie will have been THEIR Doctor and this their Doctor Who. It continually inspires generations. That's wonderful I think.
And I'm very interested to see how Jodie's run will come to an end, I am going to be very sad when she does regenerate but hopefully she goes out on a real high, I absolutely loved Flux and I'm looking forward to seeing what the specials will bring, especially the last one which from what has been teased could be quite the interesting one!
Ok bot
Yup, Tecteun definitely not dead. She released the Ravagers, so she'd be stupid not to have a backup plan. And Tecteun's not stupid.
The characters are only as smart as their writers...
@@danielhenze8182 we are doomed then
@@valexcx RTD should save us
@@danielhenze8182 so, smart then, given Chibnall well hidden foreshadowing for the Timeless Children and other plots, very smart
@@DoctorWhoHugh well hidden?
*"Nobody Loves The Mouri More Than Me!"*
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Evil Dan we need to eliminate the bots, they are not evil Dan lovers, destroy the bots ha ha ha hoooo
You're good at this
Why aren't you verified yet
@@RobboRobbo what's the point of being alive
I really enjoyed Flux! Will be rewatching it in a few weeks with a friend!
Sounds like a fantastic plan! I hope you both enjoy it together!
@@friendlyotaku9525 Thanks! We watched S12 Finale yesterday, and she really enjoyed it. She's intrigued where it'll go in S13...
@Mahroo Mizani it’s not suffering when one enjoys it
@Mahroo Mizani Just let people enjoy it man. Don't shove your opinion in when it wasn't asked for.
@Mahroo Mizani This comment was unpleasant and useless, we don't care about your opinion
I love doctor who
Nobody likes the mouri more than me
Why aren't verified yet?
@@thedoctorwho73 ok you got me there
@@selena3744 ?
@@noone-tq7cs bot. Just ignore them
@@doctormew9399 yeah Ik, I'm just afraid that one day they take over the world and kill everyone who ignored them
What an episode this was I disliked the whole timeless child arc at first but this got me into it
You’ve clearly been payed off
As much as I loved this season, I find the Doc was a huge jerk, especially towards Yaz
I get what she's going through, but still
Do you think The Thirteenth Doctor has been unlikable throughout her Era
@@benmiller3252 No? I was just saying she was being really mean to Yaz this season, that's all
Yet when the truth is in reach, it's isn't wanted.
That one was such a great episode! I'm planning on getting the inverted coat for sure!
My demon batterys are full am I charged with possession yet
Such a fabulous season. I will miss the creative writing and characters if the Thirteenth Doctor era.
hehe creative
@@chrispy3369it was very creative. some of th executions were not great but the ideas were.
They say the Doctor is falling apart in there. Yet she seems completely fine and mostly in control of it all
Flux could have been great... it just wasn't (mostly because of being cut short unfortunately), like, WHO are the Mouri? amung many other questions
How To Make Bad ideas Extremely Pure Good idea
1. Invent time machine.
2. Travel to 22nd century.
3. Invent a machine that can change probability to make probability certain that Bad ideas are Extremely Pure Good idea Forever.
Seen better CGI in Phineas and Ferb
i almost like actually laughed out loud at how bad it is 😂😂
What you get when the show is held hostage by BBC
@@Arfarf69held hostage and a severe lack of workers during a pandemic.
It’s almost Christmas would love u to drop a season 17 collection clip
0:06 Beavo in Doctor who
Can’t wait for Russel T Davies to return. THE SHOWS LAST HOPE!!!!
too bad he likes the timeless child stuff huh
@Mahroo Mizani
We should boycott the BBC over Christmas and send a message to them.
I’m lucky if I watch them at all these days. The Food Network and Horror Channel on Freeview is much more enjoyable.
@@floralfaerie source?
@@mawrak rtd
Yeah if they bring on board Andrew Cartmel to fix this crap with him
The irony is the BritishButtCrack hated the plans to make the doctor more than just another timelord, but at least Cartmel knew the meaning of subtlety and didn't use a sledgehammer
So you didnt upload the part where the doctor flirts with herself... wow. =)
This is the doctor who version of the architect from the matrix reloaded.
Strike this from canon
Love me some flux content
What a great season! Jodie is fantastic!
She really is not.
Looks like the Doctor is getting all Fluxtered.
Este episodio da bem interessante
The worst Doctor and the worst series. Please, someone, anyone, put this beloved show back on track or kill it entirely!
The worst series? So series 11 > series 13 ?
@@hothemeep1219 I'll take 11 over 13...Both were rough and just a slap in the face of the cannon and to fans.
@@nunyabusiness6400 but season 11 hardly touched any canon tho lol
@@AubreeGames Agree 100% with you, but Whitaker's portrayal and the heavy pushing of "The Message" is just over the top. The whole Whitaker run is just a mess and The Flux was just ridiculous.
@@AubreeGames lmao
Yuk.... no more. Im done.
💙💙
who is streaming the new dr. who?
not me thats for sure
Least favorite from the season
The flux series sucked
All these years, all these adventures… only to make The Doctor a victim. A spectator in their own story. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
Once, before, The Doctor was a force of nature, they were the Oncoming Storm. With wit, guile and determination they faced horrors that sent the sane man (or woman) screaming for the hills. They were the thing that gave Evil nightmares. They faced down gods, and things that ate gods like breath mints with aplomb.
This simpering, screeching little waif isn’t The Doctor. She’s not even up to the level of a Companion.
There’s no strength here, no power. No greatness and certainly no Doctor.
The sooner Chibnall leaves, taking his sycophants, boot licking toadies and other hangers-on the better.
The Doctor has always been somewhat of a victim. A victim of their own kind, a victim of the time war. Always to some degree - a victim. That's not new.
@@PD-gt1dm NO.
Not always and not a victim!
They chose to leave Galiefray in defiance of the Council of Time Lords. They were the survivor of the Time War, not it’s victim.
The Doctor demonstrates the power of saying No. No I will not standby and do nothing, no I will not surrender… NO, I will not be the victim(!)
The Doctor stands for their beliefs; the rights of all sentient life. They will bend and break every rule to wipe the tears from the eyes of a child, because they know anything that would stop them should be defied, smashed and ignored.
The whole point of the Doctor is that they show us how we should act, how we should face fear and despair. With logic, intelligence and wisdom. When we see those that can’t fight we should, we must, fight to save them.
This is the idea of the Doctor. The wise”man”, the teacher. Those that make others better. By action, by example, by ideal.
Saying that the Doctor is just another victim cheapens that. It suggests that they are doing this from regret, or vengeance, not the highest ideals of compassion and determination. A good person can’t simply be a good person, they have to be broken in some way.
Compassion is not an injury, morals are not something you win through abuse. We can be, we ARE better than that.
@@ThomasFishwick You can be a survivor AND a victim. The Doctor has been a victim many times regardless of how you choose to ignore it or reword it.
@@PD-gt1dm well of course you can be a victim and a survivor, otherwise you're a victim and dead. One, however, does not automatically denote the other. The Doctor fought (eventually) in the Time War, he was a participant. You don't describe soldiers as victims. Generals are not victims. They may be casualties, but again that does not make them "victims".
I have not reworded anything, I am not obfuscating the matter. Yes The Doctor has been attacked and hurt many times, but they have always responded. They have never been helpless. Not until the latest few seasons.
@@ThomasFishwick you know you can be a victim of something without dying right? Also the doctor DID die many times to the things they were a victim of. The timelords forced 2 to regenerate to 3 for exile to earth, meaning they killed him. The doctor died so many times, and has trauma because of the stuff they have seen in all the lives they have lived. 11 felt true grief when the Brigadier died, 9 had to learn to be a Doctor again after being a warrior for so many years, 10 dealt with grief about his own death and the loss of Rose. 12 had to deal with knowing he would see River for the last time before his past self gave her consciousness a new life in the Supercomputer. The Doctor almost always was a victim of some event, person, or group. The doctor has to live knowing his slower aging and ability to regenerate will ensure they will always see their friends and companions eventually die besides Captain Jack. Which the doctor knows how Jack will die too, at the end if the universe after warning 10 about the master's return. The doctor also has trauma knowing he lead to the fall of gallifrey, and until 11 found out that gallifrey was saved by all 13 Doctors at the time. The doctor has been a victim in nearly every face they've had, this series just showed it more upfront instead of having it be more subtle with clues and little details in dialogue said and actions done/shown in the series.
Russell T Davies is now looking for the 14th Doctor. I hope he'll pick Robert Carlyle or Michael Sheen or Tom Ellis as the 14th Doctor.
I want Ben Wishaw or Phoebe Waller-Bridge, but I guess the last one is almost impossible.
I can't wait to see who it is, but unfortunately we have to wait almost two years for it. Still, at least we've got a few episodes until then. I can't wait to see what happens in Eve of the Daleks
@@doctormew9399 I think they might announce who it is between the 2nd and 3rd Specials in 2022.
@@jameslevy8347 Quite possibly. Or they might leave it until she regenerates, so it would be a complete surprise. That would be awesome.
@@doctormew9399 If you say so. I hope the surprise will be she'll regenerate into Michael Sheen.
I don't subscribe to that point of view.
😂
I was a bit annoyed with the mouri because it just seemed like Chibnall destroyed the Time Lords just to make another race like the Time Lords when he could have just used the Time Lords. If they'd have linked to The Doctor's origins a bit more then yeah but they were kind of just there for the fugitive doctor stuff. I hope they expand later
I hope they retcon later
No, i still dont like it.
Doctor who episodes look to be produced on a shoestring budget lately and not as clever as they used to be.
I shall not be watching this at Christmas.
Getting rather sick of the BBC.
Not worth the license fee that I pay.
CC ruined the show
So sad that the hero of all boys for decades has now been stolen from them. Not only is Doctor Who now a woman (who calls herself "the upgrade" so we understand that men are a notch down), playing out prissy, Buffy-like storylines, but apparently it has now been determined that she was originally a girl. If the idea is to create an interesting series for girls (which this now is), why does it mean destroying what was created for boys? This is the work of the equity-obsessed Langoliers of the BBC wreaking wokeness and inculcating yet more fake history.
Snowflake alert. In a fictional make-believe show, it’s the gender of the lead actor that triggers you?
We’ve had decades of great male role models though the doctor. Why is it so upsetting women can now also benefit from the show?
@@moshah1690 Sorry if you are triggered, take a deep breath and you'll be ok. Then re-read and try to follow what I said. There is no limit to the scope for role for the other gender. There is no need to usurp this one.
Why can’t the doctor be a role model for both girls and boys simultaneously? They are an alien after all, the fact that their gender can change should not be a big issue . Missy’s incarnation of the master was a big clue that the doctor would eventually have a female incarnation too. Who knows, the next doctor might be a man again but either way it really shouldn’t matter too much.
If your still mad an alien from a time travelling world is a women then u need to touch some grass.
Literally log off lol. Go outside. Touch some grass. Please bro.
The fact that the doctor is or has been a girl or a woman does not mean they can’t be a role model for boys or men too.
Utter, utter drivel.
To everyone complaining about this being canon, it's the Doctor's new origin story. They're starting from season 1. It's canon, whether you like it or not. And I will love Jodie's Doctor as much as any other.
The Eve of the Lesbian was type of the BBC woke garbage 🗑 served up for this show...
it was a good episode
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what a horrible episode. luckily the following episode was excellent.
Look Jodie is great, but half of these series felt like GCSE drama with a special effects budget
She's so horrible as the Doctor.
First