IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION: If you're an existing subscriber affected by this pricing change, the new rates (if applicable) will apply when your plan renews - not necessarily on January 15th. Adobe will also email you about these changes one month before your renewal date.
Screw Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I use Corel PaintShop Pro Extreme. Bought it for 99. DOES ALL Adobe photoshop does and more. Dont have to pay a yearly plan, cloud storage or all the other BS Adobe does.
@@miller-joel I did just that in August. I was on a monthly plan that I only took out in February and just cancelled my subscription and payment method. Didn't have to pay any sort of penalty and then deleted everything related to Adobe off my computer. Happily using Affinity now and not tied in to any of this subscription nonsense.
A cheaper alternative to paying the new price increase is to go to your closest Party City and buy a Pirate costume. You will need it to set sail pirating the internet.
Thank you for this … clearly I was living under a rock and hadn’t been aware of this. I’ll probably stick with my current plan, I simply can’t be bothered learning yet another program 👍
i bought on1 photo raw to replace lightroom but i found copy and pasting setting across multiple images was painfully slow and found i had to stay with lightroom until things improve with on1.
Still for the price, you get a good software. I only pay for Spotify (Duo) and Adobe subscription (Photography 20GB) subscriptions. It costs me very little in compare to other expenses.
@@through_the_lens_art I trie it when it first came out, and there login server went down a couple of months in. I couldn't access my own work. I decided then that this would never happen to me again. They charged me to cancel the subscription. if it was a good value (not saying it isn't good software, but the subscription value), they wouldn't charge you to leave. You can still buy C1 Pro, On1, Luminar, DxO or Aftershot AND throw in Affinity for perpetual licenses. Except for C1 Pro, you could get the RAW Processor AND Affinity for a 1 year subscription.
Thanks adobe, I just canceled my subscription. You don't want to pay the canceling fee. Just upgrade to another product and cancel it immediately. You even get money back :)
@@JosephRossPhotography On1 does and I have been using it for years. It usually costs 49 dollars to upgrade around the holidays, like right now. It is lightroom and photoshop with filters and layers in one product.
It's time to sharpen my Affinity skills. If Adobe keeps this up, Adobe will not be needed. IMO this is a horrible business model and confusing with all the options/changes and charges without any consideration for the users.
A company doesn't need to be publicly traded to simply be focused on greed. LOL I tend to say that things go down hill as soon as there is a profit motive. The profit trumps all other considerations.
Whether a private corporation or a public traded corporation investors have to rely on the financial standing of a company. If a company begins losing customers the financial standing of a company becomes diminished which in turn is bad for investors..........So go figure?
@@westcrewsupportclub2964 Why did you ever pay that much for Adobe if you didn't need it? Obviously if you were able to switch to Affinity, it's because you didn't need Adobe.
@@phenanrithe Even if you limited the work to just photography, Adobe would still be miles ahead of Affinity. So if you switched, that implies that you never needed Adobe in the first place, or you changed your work to accommodate the more limited tools.
Adobe is increasing the prices, and you say they are cool because they will honor a contract they are required to fulfill by law? Of course, if I get an annual subscription and pay they can't change it before the price increase they can't change it. It was a tragedy that Apple dropped Aperture because it kept Adobe decent.
I understand what you're saying, but I know many photographers who use Lightroom Classic and Photoshop that will be very glad they can continue to pay the same price they've been paying for years for the "Photography (20GB)" plan. And no, I don't think Adobe needed to continue offering that price after people's yearly commitment ended and it was time for a renewal.
@@forestchaput but it's not the same price for photography 20gb subs. That is going up. So, you are telling a lie with your comment. USD 9.99/month previously, 14.99 month after January 2025. That's a 50% hike. There's no secret that 99% of users are on the monthly sub btw. Because Adobe was blatantly misleading in their monthly sub signup that suckered us in. And that's why the US DOJ is after Adobe. Oh,. and Adobe is upping the price cos a fuck load of people have told them to fuck off and switched to other software.
really appreciate this video about the adobe photography plan pricing changes. would have been caught off guard. now i locked in my rate by switching to annual plan. thanks!
They shouldn’t be upping their prices but lowering. Giving the fact that live is getting more expensive overall, Adobe is now just emphasising the costs they charge and creates an incentive for people to start shopping around.
Its a double down tactic. for most people who are out the loop this might work in their favor. most subscribers just work and arent into the updates with pricing. as crazy as that sounds.
The incentive to start shopping around has been provided by Adobe a long time ago. I've switched to Affinity & CaptureOne Pro. Like me, many many others have already ditched Adobe in favor of things like DxO PhotoLab, DaVinci Resolve, StableDiffusion, Topaz Denoise etc. This is just confirmation that spending a few days moving all my catalogs and work out of the Adobe ecosystem was worth it.
I was one of the first owners of all Adobe products back in the day. I was one of the first to drop all Adobe products when they went to the subscription models. Until they offer non-subscription model, I will continue to NOT use Adobe products . In case you are not aware.... there is a definite life without Adobe.
@estwern He said “one of the first”, not a difficult concept to grasp knowing how long adobe products have been around and when they changed their model to subscription.
I think you're confused about the Lightroom 1TB bundle. I believe it used to include Lightroom Classic, but no longer does so if you need any of Lightroom Classic's additional functionality such as the print module you need the photography bundle. Previously the Lightroom bundle did include Lightroom and Lightroom Classic, but now it doesn't so even if you don't need photoshop if you need Lightroom Classic you're forced to shell out the extra money. So that's another rate increase just in a different way.
That’s not right. Either you got the Photography 20GB bundle with Lightroom, Lightroom Classic and Photoshop, or you got the Lightroom 1TB bundle with just Lightroom. I know this because thus far I’ve paid for both Lightroom 1TB and the Photography 20GB bundle separately. I’m glad they now added Classic to the 1TB plan, but it won’t matter for me until 2026 because I stacked discounted Black Friday codes to get 50% off for the next two years already.
In Canada the 1tb lightroom option does not include classic. If you want classic and 1tb cloud the. You are paying for the full photography package including Photoshop. I expect that Adobe is trying to get rid of lightroom classic. Push more people to the cloud version. Or maybe move lightroom classic into Thier "professional" line and charge more for it.
@@DiveBC of course they're trying to push more people to the cloud...so they can abuse their amended 2024 TOS and claim a perpetual license on any image on their "cloud"...this is why they are doing it. Are people so stupid as to not see Adobe's ulterior motives?
Just a little tip if you don't want pay increase or even discount...just process to cancel subscription and before the end of the process they will propose your directly same plan for well less
Affinity, CaptureOne, DxO Photolab, Topaz Denoise, DaVinci Resolve. They're all pay-once-use-forever. You are free to upgrade *if you want* and *when you want*, but it's also perfectly fine if you never upgrade. You don't lose access to your work just because you don't pay Adobe's price every year. What I mean is that once you stop paying Adobe, you are no longer able to open an existing catalog and re-export some of your photos. For example if you wanna print some of them a few days after your subscription ends. Oh and with CaptureOne you can very easily migrate your Lightroom Classic catalogs.
Thanks Forest! I really appreciate this information. I haven’t received anything from Adobe about these upcoming changes. This video definitely helped me decide what I’ll do.
frankly I was ok with the 10 USD for the photography plan but 5 USD increase is a bit abusive. I will switch plan and cancel to avoid the penalty fee and switch to affinity as a photoshop replacement. Lightroom is garbage compared to capture one .
@ it’s changing effective January 2025 the photography bundle that used to be 9.90 usd to 15USD per month with an annual plan. As for C1 I use the jack sparrow version which is fully functional including ai masking
@@wielpaquay1932 You are misinformed. The price *will* go up once your current plan ends. Also C1 is $349, pay-once-use-forever. Also, if you decide to buy another major version in 2 or 3 years, you will get a discounted price. I paid 279.2 EUR to get the newest version a few months ago. That's $290 USD. I'll probably upgrade again in 2-3 years or when C1 adds a feature that I really need or fixes bugs that bother me. The most important thing is that I don't *have* to pay every month or every year just to access *my own work*.
I recommend visiting your Adobe account page & clicking the Manage Plan link. My plan of paying monthly was scheduled for renewal on December 28, 2024, so less than 30 days before renewal & no email from Adobe. I switched to the pay annually option to lock in the $9.99 price/month.
Even that increases when the 2025 annual renewal is due. Mine will go up by $AU20. Not a huge increase, but it means I'll be paying $16/month by the end of 2025 and, as a hobbyist, it's just getting too expensive.
Thank you! This was very informative and much easier to understand than anything from Adobe. With over 14 years of images and being a high volume shooter, the 1TB plan is nowhere near enough to cover a years worth of photos and resoective edits. I'll be sticking with the LrC and Ps plan and keep working on my local drives. I also have a NAS, so if I absolutely need something, I can access my images without the additional cloud storage fees.
You're welcome! That sounds like a great plan. NAS devices are fantastic for local storage - I use mine for all my video content, and it makes life so much easier.
UK here I use RAW and PS it costs £9.98pence per month. in you money that's $12.88c, so they all ready charge us over the top. As for the cloud I don't use it and don't want it. If they plan on putting the prices up here I think it's time to leave.
Thanks for the info! I did not receive any notice from Adobe about these upcoming changes. I looked and saw I was only using 1.5GB of cloud storage. I just switched to the annual 20GB photo plan. Saved myself $120/yr.
Oh, these price increases for the 20gb photography plan represent a nearly 50% increase in pricing. I am basing this on the Australian dollar (AUD) from USD exchange rate. 3 months of that is a whole year's worth of Photomator.
Thanks for the update. I was not able to change my payment option from monthly to annually via the website but ended up chatting to Customer Support and got it changed, added bonus it was £95 instead of £120
I would think that someone who is not currently using an Adobe Photo Plan, probably is not planning to ever sign up. There are now other photo processing programs that are as good as or better.
@ no. Which programs are better to manage a vast archive and edit/process the photos? Even Lightroom cloud does not come close the Lightroom Classic. There are many Photoshop alternatives. No real good alternatives for Lrc. Maybe Capture One is the only one.
@@stefpix Depending on what I am doing. I use an older Capture One version for tethering/organising studio shoots. I use darktable for editing. It can handle very large libraries and the modules/workflow makes sense to me (after a steep learning curve). Rarely, for anything requiring layers/Ai I use Affinity/Luminar (both one-off purchases)
@@TerryLeeWhiteA one-time payement to start with, not a subscription model. AND reasonably and accordingly priced for hobbyists that will use it once a month, not just for photographers that make a living out of it or enterprises. It’s ok to limit certain functions for a reduced price, but it’s not ok to expect that hobbyists will pay 3.000 € to be able to use one app for a 10 year period. That’s immoral, outrageous and downright obscene.
@@dferred Also, a company charging for its products is "not immoral," the same way it's not immoral for a photographer to charge whatever they want. As customers, we have the right not to pay if we don't want to.
Of course its increasing in price with no value added Have to cloud storage..no choice They have 100% access to your photos,you have no choice when they use and how Good luck
exactly. With a full, perpetual licence to any images stored in the cloud...to do whatever they want. It's criminal that our politicians are allowing such TOS changes to be made, harming consumer rights. One has to question whether our politicians serve we the people, or are corrupt and only serve business (I know what the answer is).
Hey Forest, thanks for making the video. Really clear overview. One comment around the January 15th date. For people who have a plan that is impacted by the plan / pricing changes, it takes effect the next time they are up for renewal (not necessarily on January 15th). January 15th is the first date where people are up for renewal with the changes (hence us sharing information online now a month before that). But again, for existing members on plans which are changing, they keep their current pricing until they are up for their next renewal. For example, if you signed up in June 2024 for a plan that is changing, you keep your current price until your next renewal on June 2025. Note, if you currently don’t have a photography plan and want to get the 20gb photography plan, you have to do that before January 15th (after that it won’t be available to new users). (and you can keep it until you cancel). (Just wanted to be clear for anyone confused about what is happening on the 15th) (I work for Adobe)
Clearly and that means Adobe is not doing anything nice for anybody. If someone pays the Anual subscription before Jan 15 Adobe better keep the price of face the regulators. Does Chaput work for Adobe that is presenting Adobe's legal obligation as something nice they are doing for the people?
I'm actually really happy they are adding LRC to the lightroom 1 TB plan! I mostly use LR, but occasionally want to use extensions in LRC, but it has not been worth the extra cost to me to get the photography 1 TB plan. A dollar extra isn't terrible.
@@forestchaput at 3:48 you mention that LrC will be included as part of the Lr/1Tb Plan... Currently I have the Lr/LrC/Ps/20g plan but never use PS and now want the 'Lr/LrC/1Tb Plan'. I searched the Adobe website about the inclusion of of LrC in the Lr/1Tb Plan and also called Adobe and was told that no LrC is included... Where can I confirm that Lr/1Tb will have Lr/LrC/1Tb for $120/year?
So I just wanted to say that if you find the year plan on sale, for example, B & H photo in New York currently has a gift certificate discount on both the 20 gig and one terabyte plans, you can stack these. For example, Monday night I purchased a new camera from B&H and got a discounted one terabyte photography plan And they’ve had sales in the past and by redeeming the code with Adobe. I am now completely paid through December 2027.
The difference between the two currently available photography plans ( 20Mb and 1 TB) is the storage - you're being asked to pay $10 a month for 1TB of storage - whether you want it or not.
Hi Forest, In the past if you had the 20GB Photo Plan and you wanted additional cloud storage to use with Lightroom, you could add that by paying the extra $10/month. Going forward, will it be possible to add extra cloud storage to an annual 20GB Photo Plan? Or would you have to sign up for the Photo 1TB plan & the additional fee? Trying to wrap my head around the variations...:-) Thanks!
I've been wanting to switch, but the cost of Capture One is a little too high for me for their monthly plan. And while I appreciate an option to buy the program outright. I dislike how it doesn't allow for upgrades in the future.
Capture One is an excellent program for many photographers! I personally use it for tethering. For my normal workflow however, Lightroom fits my needs much better.
@@forestchaput yeah but they are not stealing my images to train AI and charge me more....Adobe lost over 1 millions subscribers...and capture one is not only for tethering, don't diminish the program...and you don't need a subscription to have it, and in Europe we don't have the 9.99 option, only 20 euros one with 1tb
You and me both. I prefer how it handles Sony raw colors than LR. I'm glad that Adobe doesn't have license to use "my" cloud files. The program is very powerful; then again so is it's overreach.
I’m not trying to diminish C1Pro at all. We taught both C1Pro and Lightroom at our school. I’m just making the point that both programs have their strengths and weaknesses and for me, Lightroom is better for my workflow.
I live in New Zealand, only use Photoshop and I have the "Photography 20GB" plan. I had a price increase this month, December 2024, from just under NZ$15.00 to about NZ$19.30. Will I be getting another price increase in January?
I haven't gotten a notification and I was 1 month out (just got hit with my 9.99), so I went ahead and switched to the annual so I don't forget and have to pay the 14.99/mo. I'm on the 20GB Photography plan
There is a lot of information ion missing in this video. 1) if I have a current Lightroom/Photoshop 20G monthly plan, will the price increase at the end of my 1 year term or will it continue at 9.99/month indefinitely, or do I need to pay an annual fee when the year ends or do I need to pay an annual fee in January. Option2. Start switching to another editor.
I'm sorry you feel that way. The Adobe blog post I linked in the description has more information. It will continue to be $9.99/month until your first yearly renewal after January 15th. At that point, it will increase to $14.99/month unless you opt to switch to annual billing in which case it will stay at $119.88/year.
Thank you so much for this info. I see a lot of people will abandon Adobe software. I'm one of them. Too expensive. So moving on to learn other software. On the video front, DaVinci Resolve is way better than Premiere, for instance. The hardest one to replace is Lightroom Classic... photoshop, not so much. And given my local reality, paying annually is not an option.
You are the freaking man. Just saw this video and I changed from the monthly 9.99 to whole lump sum yearly. Yeah, it sucks taking the hit al at once, but it's better to pay the $130 with tax at once rather than almost $200 over a yr period.
How were you able to do it? I tried the same, and, when I clicked on the "manage plan" button, the only option I was given was to cancel outright; there was no option offered to change from monthly to yearly.
@ravenfallsphotography6254 Should be there. I went to manage subscription". The should be options to increase, change plan, or choose the 9.99 billed yearly. Should come out around $130 depending on tax.
Sorry, "penalizing" is incorrect, this is how capitalism works. A company raises prices as the economic environment changes e.g. inflation. Sounds like this is the first price change in 10 years, Do you really think the boardroom sat around and discussed how to punish those who stopped using their service? Really? Looks like more of a business decision than some vindictive plot. Bottom line, you don't like Adobe, don't use their service. I do appreciate you voicing your views. I'm just expressing mine too. Have a great day.
@@thomasd6592 Well now, I hadn't thought of that, but I bet they did sit around the boardroom and decide to raise the rates, with an evil glint in their eye. lol Especially after people made fun of their lame explanations. They probably know those still with them aren't going anywhere, so why not? Sure, they can do what they want. But a 50% increase all at once is a bit steep, considering they haven't raised the price in 10 years. Maybe they should've done a .50 cent increase every year.
I think Im the last one ....also when you feel the cloud...images can still be edited JUST not saved...BUT you can still access them...they don't disappear I reached this point 👉 and went ok 👍
@Gary_G Did you talk to a customer service representative and have them change this for you, or did you just cancel your subscription in your account and bought a new annual payment plan? In my account I don't see a way to switch from annual/monthly payments to annual payments. Thanks!
@@darrend5489 Did it online. While in Creative Cloud > Top Right > Manage Account. Takes you online > Your Plan > Manage Plan > Manage Commitment. Changed from Annual/monthly to Annual. Then there is a credit and it starts fresh.
Same old Adobe 💩 They've lost market share to Davinci Resolve now let's see what Apple comes up with their newly acquired Photoshop competitor. Meanwhile there's Luminar for a one time payment.
I've been on the $9.99/mo plan since it was first brought out and the entire time it has been $9.99/mo. I thinjk it's reasonable to increase prices after such time, however if the trend starts to be yearly increase then I'm going to have to force myself to at least consider other options. I would love if they had a creators plan that included LRC, PS and Pr for $19.99/mo, I don't need cloud storage either.
Thanks for the info. I just changed from monthly $9.99 20gb plan to annual $119.88. Adobe website informed me I could save 33% by switching and not get the price increase. 👍 plus I get a $7.41 refund for this month. I have until December 29th to cancel.
"Adobe honoring..." Nothing about Adobe is honorable. They swore that they would maintain the standalone perpetual version of LR. But NO, that didn't happen. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." Never again Adobe.
What a great time of year right after Christmas and the New Year to ask people to work out a lump sum of money. I thought originally we were told that price would not change. But in the new contract they force you to sign going from monthly to the lump sum it says the price will be evaluated each year. If it goes up next year then I'm done. I mainly a Photoshop user and their other programs on the market. Lightroom is always bothered me because it's a proprietary cataloging system. Hopefully affinity or someone else will find a way to make a Lightroom clone that will accept the catalogs. I don't use Lightroom but so many people do.
So glad I smelt a rat when subscriptions were first announced. Means I still use old Lr5 (+ affinity photo), but that bothers me not. Was a great program when release so it's still good enough me even if newer versions may have ---- yeah ok, do have newer/better tools.
Hi, what happens if a person stores a bunch of photos in the cloud, per the storage with adobe lightroom, and then the person chooses to leave adobe, what happens to our data in the cloud? And, can you verify that adobe is no longer using our personal data, our photos in the adobe cloud, for their own commetcial purposes?
I have used the Photography (20GB) program for years and would like to continue paying yearly, Do I have to do anything, or will this switch from monthly to yearly automatically?
@@forestchaput Forest, I have been over every page in my account and find nowhere that will allow me to change from my monthly payments to annual. Is there another route to take. Thank you for any help with this matter.
Ok, so in Finland the price ent from 12,54 to 18,99 per month and if you try to switch to annual it says "We’re unable to continue with this plan. Select another plan or if you think you’re seeing this message in error, please contact Customer Support."...
Hi I am on the 20gig plan which runs out in Nov. 25. What is not clear to me is if I renew in Nov. 2025 with an annual sub. will I still pay £120 and will this increase in 26 ? I am happy to renew now but again will the price go up in Jan 26 ? I appreciate your help. Many Thanks Peter
I just tried to switch to annual billing and it looks like I'm screwed. I am on the Photography plan and they have been billing me $9.99/month. It says I am on the annual plan, prepaid, but that I will be billed $14.99/month on January 23. The only option I have when I click on it is to cancel the plan. They don't seem to give me any option to change the billing to once/year. They have not sent me any email notification that this was being changed. So much for email notifications sent out one month before our renewal date. So now what? I'm tempted to change plans and drop Photoshop as I rarely ever use it. I do not use the cloud storage at all. I'll have to mull over my options, then figure out how to actually change to a different plan. They may make that difficult, just to try to extract more $$ out of me. I don't make money on photography. This is a hobby for me. I am not willing to dump Adobe and try something else right now either. I'll definitely re-watch this video to look at my options. Thanks for the heads-up, since Adobe didn't bother warning me in advance.
Earlier today I did the same thing you tried to do, and it worked perfectly easily for me. It should give you the option to change to a yearly bill, if you can't do that it must be a glitch.
Thought I would lock in the grandfathered price before 15 January 2025 only to find out in 12 months time my Adobe annual plan will increase by $20. So much for the Adobe promise that there will be no increase in the Adobe Annual Plan. Not quite sure that they understand what grandfathered pricing actually means.
Very helpful! When I went into the Adobe website I found this verbiage: Starting December 11, 2023, new users and organizations will not be entitled to Creative Cloud Synced files. Starting February 1, 2024, Creative Cloud Synced files will be discontinued for personal accounts that existed before December 11, 2023 (learn more here). Starting October 1, 2024, Creative Cloud Synced files will be discontinued for business accounts associated with organizations that existed before December 11, 2023 (learn more here). Does that mean, I can't synch my Lightroom Classic files synched to my phone with LIghtroom Mobile?
well, i've been debating cancelling my LR PS plan as i just can't justify it for how much i use it now that i use capture one mostly. I really need photoshop now and then, but now a price increase? no thanks. i'll make gimp or something else work. they should drop the price not increase it.
Know what you are doing if you get Adobe lightroom. I somehow got mine to try and import pictures from a folder that did not have any pictures. I shut the program down while it was trying to import these pictures(that didn't exist). Then every time I tried to open lightroom it immediately crashed my computer. I worked with the Adobe troubleshooter for two hours to try and resolve the issue. I gave him remote access to my computer and he messed my BIOS up so bad I couldn't even get my display to work. All I got was a blank screen. I had to take my computer in to my local computer tech to have him fix my BIOS. Between the cost of the Adobe product and the computer tech I paid about $500. I edited two pictures with it before I had my problems, and I like the unedited versions better than what I did. After I got my computer fixed I immediately deleted all Adobe products from my computer. I know I screwed up, but they charge a fortune for their product. It needs to be more stable than it is. What a joke.
I have the 20Gb plan but don't use Photoshop. The new Lightroom 1Tb seems a good opportunity for me but, as I understand, Lightroom Classic will be available in this plan only starting January 15. So I'm a bit lost on what's better to do. Migrate now to the 1Tb plan but I loose the use of Lightroom Classic (what will happen on 15th of january?) or wait and migrate after the January 15 (if I lock the current price with an annual prepaid on the 20Gb plan, will I have the possibility to migrate to the annual prepaid 1Tb plan ?)
That's a great question. While I don't know the exact answer, I would simply switch plans on the 14th so you are locked into the old pricing on the Lightroom (1TB) plan. I will say though that if you ever think you might want to learn Photoshop, and plan on staying with Lightroom Classic, you might want to stick with the Photography (20GB) plan.
Thanks for the video. I went to the Australian Adobe site and the L and LrC with 1TB is not available. Is it not a world wide offer or does it only become available on 15-01-2025? Thanks.
Yes. I was on the annual 20gb plan, paying $AU14.29/month. Today I changed to the annual 20gb pay-up-front plan and paid $AU171.47. I note the price at my renewal, due December 2025, will increase by $20 to $AU191.93 (= $AU16/month).
@@forestchaput I cannot find any means to convert my $9.99 monthly plan to an annual payment. Are you sure they will do this and how do you contact them? The chatbot is useless.
@@forestchaput I've already paid for the annual subscription, but logically I probably won't be able to renew my subscription for this package next year?
Thanks for this information - one point of clarification please. My Adobe subscription account (Photography plan (20GB) says Subscription Yearly, billed monthly. Will I have to pay the full 12months in one lump sum to remain on this plan at the current price or can I continue my regular monthly payments? Thanks for any clarification.
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION: If you're an existing subscriber affected by this pricing change, the new rates (if applicable) will apply when your plan renews - not necessarily on January 15th. Adobe will also email you about these changes one month before your renewal date.
Screw Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I use Corel PaintShop Pro Extreme. Bought it for 99. DOES ALL Adobe photoshop does and more.
Dont have to pay a yearly plan, cloud storage or all the other BS Adobe does.
The best plan is to dump Adobe.
@@miller-joel I did just that in August. I was on a monthly plan that I only took out in February and just cancelled my subscription and payment method. Didn't have to pay any sort of penalty and then deleted everything related to Adobe off my computer. Happily using Affinity now and not tied in to any of this subscription nonsense.
A cheaper alternative to paying the new price increase is to go to your closest Party City and buy a Pirate costume. You will need it to set sail pirating the internet.
Thank you for this … clearly I was living under a rock and hadn’t been aware of this. I’ll probably stick with my current plan, I simply can’t be bothered learning yet another program 👍
I hope to god that affinity releases an adobe lightroom clone so that I can kick adobe to the curb.
i bought on1 photo raw to replace lightroom but i found copy and pasting setting across multiple images was painfully slow and found i had to stay with lightroom until things improve with on1.
YES 🙌🏻💪🏻👍🏻. I hope so also.
I agree
DXO photolab is quite good as a Lightroom alternative
That would be amazing.
With all the bad press Adobe has gotten lately, raising prices will really help with their image.
They must exploite their customers while they still can.
Maybe they will be able to afford to pay off some UA-camrs with these new rates.
Still for the price, you get a good software. I only pay for Spotify (Duo) and Adobe subscription (Photography 20GB) subscriptions. It costs me very little in compare to other expenses.
@@through_the_lens_art I trie it when it first came out, and there login server went down a couple of months in. I couldn't access my own work. I decided then that this would never happen to me again.
They charged me to cancel the subscription. if it was a good value (not saying it isn't good software, but the subscription value), they wouldn't charge you to leave.
You can still buy C1 Pro, On1, Luminar, DxO or Aftershot AND throw in Affinity for perpetual licenses. Except for C1 Pro, you could get the RAW Processor AND Affinity for a 1 year subscription.
Nothing changes for existing subscribers and you get a very good, always updated product for $120 a year…
Thanks adobe, I just canceled my subscription.
You don't want to pay the canceling fee. Just upgrade to another product and cancel it immediately. You even get money back :)
It's crazy, that you have to do tricks like that to get out of Adobe's grip!
I switched to DxO Photolab 8 and actually dont want to pay Adobe a dime any longer.
Smart man!
Does Dxo have any healing options or way to erase things ?
@@JosephRossPhotography no AI-based / generative options, but the healing and cloning tools are pretty decent.
@@JosephRossPhotography On1 does and I have been using it for years. It usually costs 49 dollars to upgrade around the holidays, like right now. It is lightroom and photoshop with filters and layers in one product.
It's time to sharpen my Affinity skills. If Adobe keeps this up, Adobe will not be needed. IMO this is a horrible business model and confusing with all the options/changes and charges without any consideration for the users.
I paid about $35 for Affinity a few months ago when they had a sale. That’s looking like a better and better deal every day.
Whenever a company becomes publicly traded it goes down hill because it values its investors more than it values its customers. It’s really a shame.
A company doesn't need to be publicly traded to simply be focused on greed. LOL I tend to say that things go down hill as soon as there is a profit motive. The profit trumps all other considerations.
Whether a private corporation or a public traded corporation investors have to rely on the financial standing of a company. If a company begins losing customers the financial standing of a company becomes diminished which in turn is bad for investors..........So go figure?
When Affinity reaches to Version 3.0, you all can abndon Adobe for Affinity.
That's unlikely.
@@KuttyJoe I did years ago, so glad I did. Apart from the fake AI 'can't be arsed to do it properly' (and it shows) stuff, it is way superior.
@@westcrewsupportclub2964 Why did you ever pay that much for Adobe if you didn't need it? Obviously if you were able to switch to Affinity, it's because you didn't need Adobe.
@@KuttyJoe Already did, no regret whatsoever, quite the opposite.
@@phenanrithe Even if you limited the work to just photography, Adobe would still be miles ahead of Affinity. So if you switched, that implies that you never needed Adobe in the first place, or you changed your work to accommodate the more limited tools.
Adobe is increasing the prices, and you say they are cool because they will honor a contract they are required to fulfill by law? Of course, if I get an annual subscription and pay they can't change it before the price increase they can't change it. It was a tragedy that Apple dropped Aperture because it kept Adobe decent.
I understand what you're saying, but I know many photographers who use Lightroom Classic and Photoshop that will be very glad they can continue to pay the same price they've been paying for years for the "Photography (20GB)" plan. And no, I don't think Adobe needed to continue offering that price after people's yearly commitment ended and it was time for a renewal.
Apple just bought photomator and pixelmator pro so they have plans to make a comeback.
@@forestchaput but it's not the same price for photography 20gb subs. That is going up. So, you are telling a lie with your comment. USD 9.99/month previously, 14.99 month after January 2025. That's a 50% hike. There's no secret that 99% of users are on the monthly sub btw. Because Adobe was blatantly misleading in their monthly sub signup that suckered us in. And that's why the US DOJ is after Adobe.
Oh,. and Adobe is upping the price cos a fuck load of people have told them to fuck off and switched to other software.
Adobe is ridiculous. I just left them for picketer/photomator. All in. 1 price. Couldn’t be happier. I’m not a cow. Why does adobe wanna milk me? 🐄
It is even worse. Adobe i removing the best option, Photography 200GB, for new users, and you say Adobe is cool?!?
really appreciate this video about the adobe photography plan pricing changes. would have been caught off guard. now i locked in my rate by switching to annual plan. thanks!
Awesome!
They shouldn’t be upping their prices but lowering. Giving the fact that live is getting more expensive overall, Adobe is now just emphasising the costs they charge and creates an incentive for people to start shopping around.
Its a double down tactic. for most people who are out the loop this might work in their favor. most subscribers just work and arent into the updates with pricing. as crazy as that sounds.
I bet it has to do with all the AI stuff they have been adding the last year or so.
The incentive to start shopping around has been provided by Adobe a long time ago. I've switched to Affinity & CaptureOne Pro. Like me, many many others have already ditched Adobe in favor of things like DxO PhotoLab, DaVinci Resolve, StableDiffusion, Topaz Denoise etc.
This is just confirmation that spending a few days moving all my catalogs and work out of the Adobe ecosystem was worth it.
They just want to please the shreholders now. It will keep on going and not get better.
I was one of the first owners of all Adobe products back in the day.
I was one of the first to drop all Adobe products when they went to the subscription models.
Until they offer non-subscription model, I will continue to NOT use Adobe products .
In case you are not aware.... there is a definite life without Adobe.
Are you really sure that you were the first getting and then quitting? Really really? 😂😂😂
@estwern
He said “one of the first”, not a difficult concept to grasp knowing how long adobe products have been around and when they changed their model to subscription.
I think you're confused about the Lightroom 1TB bundle. I believe it used to include Lightroom Classic, but no longer does so if you need any of Lightroom Classic's additional functionality such as the print module you need the photography bundle. Previously the Lightroom bundle did include Lightroom and Lightroom Classic, but now it doesn't so even if you don't need photoshop if you need Lightroom Classic you're forced to shell out the extra money. So that's another rate increase just in a different way.
That’s not right. Either you got the Photography 20GB bundle with Lightroom, Lightroom Classic and Photoshop, or you got the Lightroom 1TB bundle with just Lightroom. I know this because thus far I’ve paid for both Lightroom 1TB and the Photography 20GB bundle separately.
I’m glad they now added Classic to the 1TB plan, but it won’t matter for me until 2026 because I stacked discounted Black Friday codes to get 50% off for the next two years already.
In Canada the 1tb lightroom option does not include classic. If you want classic and 1tb cloud the. You are paying for the full photography package including Photoshop.
I expect that Adobe is trying to get rid of lightroom classic. Push more people to the cloud version. Or maybe move lightroom classic into Thier "professional" line and charge more for it.
@@DiveBC of course they're trying to push more people to the cloud...so they can abuse their amended 2024 TOS and claim a perpetual license on any image on their "cloud"...this is why they are doing it.
Are people so stupid as to not see Adobe's ulterior motives?
This doesn't sound confusing at all! See what Adobe is doing? Even their subscribers can figure it out any longer! 😂
Just a little tip if you don't want pay increase or even discount...just process to cancel subscription and before the end of the process they will propose your directly same plan for well less
Just to prevent you from going, so they can fleece you later! Like an abusive relationship.... I promise, I will change and be better!
it would nice if Adobe actually informed their customers that rates were increasing, at least Dick Turpin wore a mask
Stuart, everyone whose rates are changing will get an email a month before their next renewal date (since that is when it takes affect).
Jesus Christ, here I was, fucking naive as fuck, thinking they would lower their prices. 😂 Afinity Photo will profit from this.
Just like Davinci Resolve in the video editing realm.
Affinity, CaptureOne, DxO Photolab, Topaz Denoise, DaVinci Resolve. They're all pay-once-use-forever.
You are free to upgrade *if you want* and *when you want*, but it's also perfectly fine if you never upgrade. You don't lose access to your work just because you don't pay Adobe's price every year.
What I mean is that once you stop paying Adobe, you are no longer able to open an existing catalog and re-export some of your photos. For example if you wanna print some of them a few days after your subscription ends.
Oh and with CaptureOne you can very easily migrate your Lightroom Classic catalogs.
Why would you think that they would lower their prices?
Typing out profanity 👎
I suspect the photography 20GB plan goes away completely in 2026. So the price might be locked for a year, but don't count on it after that.
Yet another reason to start looking into LR alternatives... Darktable, RawTherapee, Dxo, On1, Luminar, and Capture One are all solid options.
Thanks Forest! I really appreciate this information. I haven’t received anything from Adobe about these upcoming changes. This video definitely helped me decide what I’ll do.
You’re welcome, Don! I’m happy to help. Feel free to email me if you have any other questions. 🙂
frankly I was ok with the 10 USD for the photography plan but 5 USD increase is a bit abusive. I will switch plan and cancel to avoid the penalty fee and switch to affinity as a photoshop replacement. Lightroom is garbage compared to capture one .
What a nonsense you write down. The price of Adobe isn’t going up if you’re already a subscriber and C1 is almost $400 😂
@ it’s changing effective January 2025 the photography bundle that used to be 9.90 usd to 15USD per month with an annual plan. As for C1 I use the jack sparrow version which is fully functional including ai masking
@@jaegerschtulmann it stays 9,90
@@wielpaquay1932 You are misinformed. The price *will* go up once your current plan ends.
Also C1 is $349, pay-once-use-forever. Also, if you decide to buy another major version in 2 or 3 years, you will get a discounted price. I paid 279.2 EUR to get the newest version a few months ago. That's $290 USD.
I'll probably upgrade again in 2-3 years or when C1 adds a feature that I really need or fixes bugs that bother me.
The most important thing is that I don't *have* to pay every month or every year just to access *my own work*.
You can still pay $10.00/mo if you pay annually
I recommend visiting your Adobe account page & clicking the Manage Plan link. My plan of paying monthly was scheduled for renewal on December 28, 2024, so less than 30 days before renewal & no email from Adobe. I switched to the pay annually option to lock in the $9.99 price/month.
Katy, the beginning date in Jan 15th, 2025, so you will get your renewal reminder for the updated plans in November 2025.
I did this too :)
Even that increases when the 2025 annual renewal is due. Mine will go up by $AU20. Not a huge increase, but it means I'll be paying $16/month by the end of 2025 and, as a hobbyist, it's just getting too expensive.
Thank you! This was very informative and much easier to understand than anything from Adobe. With over 14 years of images and being a high volume shooter, the 1TB plan is nowhere near enough to cover a years worth of photos and resoective edits. I'll be sticking with the LrC and Ps plan and keep working on my local drives. I also have a NAS, so if I absolutely need something, I can access my images without the additional cloud storage fees.
You're welcome! That sounds like a great plan. NAS devices are fantastic for local storage - I use mine for all my video content, and it makes life so much easier.
UK here I use RAW and PS it costs £9.98pence per month. in you money that's $12.88c, so they all ready charge us over the top. As for the cloud I don't use it and don't want it. If they plan on putting the prices up here I think it's time to leave.
Thinking it’s time to look around too
Nice summary of the changes
Thanks Greg! 😀
Adobe is making it easy to leave them now that Apple is in the Game. Jan 15 bye bye Adobe it’s been nice knowing you, but you just made my plan easier
You must be joking.
thanks for this, just updated to the annual payment to keep LRC plan
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the info! I did not receive any notice from Adobe about these upcoming changes. I looked and saw I was only using 1.5GB of cloud storage. I just switched to the annual 20GB photo plan. Saved myself $120/yr.
You're welcome! I'm happy to help. I'm glad you locked in that other plan.
Switched to Affinity, Davinci Resolve and Photolab 8 and haven't looked back. No more subscriptions!
Yet another reason to dump Adobe!
Oh, these price increases for the 20gb photography plan represent a nearly 50% increase in pricing. I am basing this on the Australian dollar (AUD) from USD exchange rate. 3 months of that is a whole year's worth of Photomator.
Thanks for update on the pricing changes.
You bet
Thanks, Forest for an excellent description and explanation about the new changes!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the heads up.
You're welcome!
With all the problems Adobe created for itself, I can't believe they are also raising their pricing.
Problems? Adobe said that they had a great 2024. What problems are you referring to? The money is pouring in.
@KuttyJoe Look at the number of youtube videos on cutting the Adobe cord. Their stock os down 20% in a week. Where's the money rolling in to?
Thanks for the update. I wish Adobe had a senior citizen plan lol! This plan would be like $350 one-time pmt and last until I drop dead! Seriously!
That's a great idea! LOL.
very well explained. i have the 1TB Lightroom Plan. :) For occasional detailed edits, I use Affinity Photo. 👍
Thank you!
Good video!
Make me realize that Adobe are out of my price range and I need to find something else to edit my fotos with.
No problem. It is called Capture One and DXO PL
Thanks for the update.
I was not able to change my payment option from monthly to annually via the website but ended up chatting to Customer Support and got it changed, added bonus it was £95 instead of £120
Glad to hear it!
I would think that someone who is not currently using an Adobe Photo Plan, probably is not planning to ever sign up. There are now other photo processing programs that are as good as or better.
I wouldn't!
There is no real substitute for Lightroom Classic.
@@stefpix You're joking right? There are so many better programs out there it's crazy.
@ no. Which programs are better to manage a vast archive and edit/process the photos? Even Lightroom cloud does not come close the Lightroom Classic. There are many Photoshop alternatives. No real good alternatives for Lrc. Maybe Capture One is the only one.
@@stefpix Depending on what I am doing. I use an older Capture One version for tethering/organising studio shoots. I use darktable for editing. It can handle very large libraries and the modules/workflow makes sense to me (after a steep learning curve). Rarely, for anything requiring layers/Ai I use Affinity/Luminar (both one-off purchases)
Glad I came across this video. I am in the first category. I mainly use photoshop, rarely use LR.
Excellent! It sounds like you're the perfect person for the "Photography (20GB)" plan.
The price of Adobe subscriptions is already obscene.
What should the price be?
@@TerryLeeWhiteA one-time payement to start with, not a subscription model. AND reasonably and accordingly priced for hobbyists that will use it once a month, not just for photographers that make a living out of it or enterprises. It’s ok to limit certain functions for a reduced price, but it’s not ok to expect that hobbyists will pay 3.000 € to be able to use one app for a 10 year period. That’s immoral, outrageous and downright obscene.
@ Photoshop was $799 and Lightroom was $299. I’m betting that a lot more people can afford it now than the original prices.
@@dferred Also, a company charging for its products is "not immoral," the same way it's not immoral for a photographer to charge whatever they want. As customers, we have the right not to pay if we don't want to.
Of course its increasing in price with no value added
Have to cloud storage..no choice
They have 100% access to your photos,you have no choice when they use and how
Good luck
exactly. With a full, perpetual licence to any images stored in the cloud...to do whatever they want. It's criminal that our politicians are allowing such TOS changes to be made, harming consumer rights. One has to question whether our politicians serve we the people, or are corrupt and only serve business (I know what the answer is).
Hey Forest, thanks for making the video. Really clear overview. One comment around the January 15th date. For people who have a plan that is impacted by the plan / pricing changes, it takes effect the next time they are up for renewal (not necessarily on January 15th). January 15th is the first date where people are up for renewal with the changes (hence us sharing information online now a month before that). But again, for existing members on plans which are changing, they keep their current pricing until they are up for their next renewal.
For example, if you signed up in June 2024 for a plan that is changing, you keep your current price until your next renewal on June 2025.
Note, if you currently don’t have a photography plan and want to get the 20gb photography plan, you have to do that before January 15th (after that it won’t be available to new users). (and you can keep it until you cancel).
(Just wanted to be clear for anyone confused about what is happening on the 15th)
(I work for Adobe)
Thank you for the clarification!
Clearly and that means Adobe is not doing anything nice for anybody. If someone pays the Anual subscription before Jan 15 Adobe better keep the price of face the regulators. Does Chaput work for Adobe that is presenting Adobe's legal obligation as something nice they are doing for the people?
I'm actually really happy they are adding LRC to the lightroom 1 TB plan! I mostly use LR, but occasionally want to use extensions in LRC, but it has not been worth the extra cost to me to get the photography 1 TB plan. A dollar extra isn't terrible.
Me too!
@@forestchaput at 3:48 you mention that LrC will be included as part of the Lr/1Tb Plan... Currently I have the Lr/LrC/Ps/20g plan but never use PS and now want the 'Lr/LrC/1Tb Plan'. I searched the Adobe website about the inclusion of of LrC in the Lr/1Tb Plan and also called Adobe and was told that no LrC is included... Where can I confirm that Lr/1Tb will have Lr/LrC/1Tb for $120/year?
All these Adobe plans are excellent... for Adobe. 😮
Now I'm more sure endall adobe plans this year thanks.
Thanks Forest~ great info, as usual!
You're welcome, Carin!
The shit hit the fan lol good god 😂
You must be joking - another price hike, the value being what exactly? Going forward I choose the NONE plan, as in kicking Adobe to the curb.
he's probably paid by Adobe to spin positive BS.
Great comprehensive video. Very informative. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
So I just wanted to say that if you find the year plan on sale, for example, B & H photo in New York currently has a gift certificate discount on both the 20 gig and one terabyte plans, you can stack these. For example, Monday night I purchased a new camera from B&H and got a discounted one terabyte photography plan And they’ve had sales in the past and by redeeming the code with Adobe. I am now completely paid through December 2027.
That's true!
Switched to Photomator on mac. One-time fee and a better "levels" interface than LR.
The difference between the two currently available photography plans ( 20Mb and 1 TB) is the storage - you're being asked to pay $10 a month for 1TB of storage - whether you want it or not.
You are correct. Both of the two surviving plans will include 1TB of storage.
This for US customers only. For the rest of the World, Sayonara Adobe...!
Price changes are global. Not just US.
Hi Forest, In the past if you had the 20GB Photo Plan and you wanted additional cloud storage to use with Lightroom, you could add that by paying the extra $10/month. Going forward, will it be possible to add extra cloud storage to an annual 20GB Photo Plan? Or would you have to sign up for the Photo 1TB plan & the additional fee? Trying to wrap my head around the variations...:-) Thanks!
I do believe that is possible. I think extra storage can be added to any plan for $10/month/TB.
I'm so glad i left Adobe, Capture one happy user, stand alone version
I've been wanting to switch, but the cost of Capture One is a little too high for me for their monthly plan. And while I appreciate an option to buy the program outright. I dislike how it doesn't allow for upgrades in the future.
Capture One is an excellent program for many photographers! I personally use it for tethering. For my normal workflow however, Lightroom fits my needs much better.
@@forestchaput yeah but they are not stealing my images to train AI and charge me more....Adobe lost over 1 millions subscribers...and capture one is not only for tethering, don't diminish the program...and you don't need a subscription to have it, and in Europe we don't have the 9.99 option, only 20 euros one with 1tb
You and me both. I prefer how it handles Sony raw colors than LR. I'm glad that Adobe doesn't have license to use "my" cloud files. The program is very powerful; then again so is it's overreach.
I’m not trying to diminish C1Pro at all. We taught both C1Pro and Lightroom at our school. I’m just making the point that both programs have their strengths and weaknesses and for me, Lightroom is better for my workflow.
I live in New Zealand, only use Photoshop and I have the "Photography 20GB" plan. I had a price increase this month, December 2024, from just under NZ$15.00 to about NZ$19.30. Will I be getting another price increase in January?
Affernity photo.
I haven't gotten a notification and I was 1 month out (just got hit with my 9.99), so I went ahead and switched to the annual so I don't forget and have to pay the 14.99/mo. I'm on the 20GB Photography plan
Nice!
There is a lot of information ion missing in this video. 1) if I have a current Lightroom/Photoshop 20G monthly plan, will the price increase at the end of my 1 year term or will it continue at 9.99/month indefinitely, or do I need to pay an annual fee when the year ends or do I need to pay an annual fee in January. Option2. Start switching to another editor.
I'm sorry you feel that way. The Adobe blog post I linked in the description has more information. It will continue to be $9.99/month until your first yearly renewal after January 15th. At that point, it will increase to $14.99/month unless you opt to switch to annual billing in which case it will stay at $119.88/year.
Thank you so much for this info.
I see a lot of people will abandon Adobe software. I'm one of them.
Too expensive.
So moving on to learn other software.
On the video front, DaVinci Resolve is way better than Premiere, for instance.
The hardest one to replace is Lightroom Classic... photoshop, not so much.
And given my local reality, paying annually is not an option.
You are very welcome for the information.
Looks like I need to switch to Adobe alternatives! What are the price changes for those of us who have the Creative Cloud All Apps 100GB???
I don't believe the "All Apps" plan pricing is changing at all.
You are the freaking man. Just saw this video and I changed from the monthly 9.99 to whole lump sum yearly. Yeah, it sucks taking the hit al at once, but it's better to pay the $130 with tax at once rather than almost $200 over a yr period.
How were you able to do it? I tried the same, and, when I clicked on the "manage plan" button, the only option I was given was to cancel outright; there was no option offered to change from monthly to yearly.
@ravenfallsphotography6254 Should be there. I went to manage subscription". The should be options to increase, change plan, or choose the 9.99 billed yearly. Should come out around $130 depending on tax.
Thanks for the heads up!
You're welcome!
Get the Affinity suite, folks.
DONE
So they're penalizing those who didn't ditch them last summer. Real nice.
Sorry, "penalizing" is incorrect, this is how capitalism works. A company raises prices as the economic environment changes e.g. inflation. Sounds like this is the first price change in 10 years, Do you really think the boardroom sat around and discussed how to punish those who stopped using their service? Really? Looks like more of a business decision than some vindictive plot. Bottom line, you don't like Adobe, don't use their service. I do appreciate you voicing your views. I'm just expressing mine too. Have a great day.
@@thomasd6592 Well now, I hadn't thought of that, but I bet they did sit around the boardroom and decide to raise the rates, with an evil glint in their eye. lol Especially after people made fun of their lame explanations. They probably know those still with them aren't going anywhere, so why not? Sure, they can do what they want. But a 50% increase all at once is a bit steep, considering they haven't raised the price in 10 years. Maybe they should've done a .50 cent increase every year.
Well said 👏
I think Im the last one ....also when you feel the cloud...images can still be edited JUST not saved...BUT you can still access them...they don't disappear
I reached this point 👉 and went ok 👍
It looks like Adobe removed the 20gb plan from their web site. B&H Photo and Amazon still have it available.
You can find it here: www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography/compare-plans.html
Well done! Just updated to Annual plan! Was paying annual/monthly. Got a refund they pro rate. LrC, Ps. I like hard drives!
@Gary_G Did you talk to a customer service representative and have them change this for you, or did you just cancel your subscription in your account and bought a new annual payment plan? In my account I don't see a way to switch from annual/monthly payments to annual payments. Thanks!
@@darrend5489 Did it online. While in Creative Cloud > Top Right > Manage Account. Takes you online > Your Plan > Manage Plan > Manage Commitment.
Changed from Annual/monthly to Annual. Then there is a credit and it starts fresh.
I pay for photography plan but only for photoshop. They should add that option too. I personally don’t need Lr at all (Capture One user)
I would love a plan that only includes Photoshop!
I'm happy that I use Nikon NX Studio, which is free.
Same old Adobe 💩 They've lost market share to Davinci Resolve now let's see what Apple comes up with their newly acquired Photoshop competitor. Meanwhile there's Luminar for a one time payment.
I've been on the $9.99/mo plan since it was first brought out and the entire time it has been $9.99/mo. I thinjk it's reasonable to increase prices after such time, however if the trend starts to be yearly increase then I'm going to have to force myself to at least consider other options. I would love if they had a creators plan that included LRC, PS and Pr for $19.99/mo, I don't need cloud storage either.
I would LOVE a "creator" plan.
Thanks for the info. I just changed from monthly $9.99 20gb plan to annual $119.88. Adobe website informed me I could save 33% by switching and not get the price increase. 👍 plus I get a $7.41 refund for this month. I have until December 29th to cancel.
Nice!
I knew this was coming. I suspect next year they will get rid of the 20GB plan all together.
"Adobe honoring..." Nothing about Adobe is honorable. They swore that they would maintain the standalone perpetual version of LR. But NO, that didn't happen. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." Never again Adobe.
What a great time of year right after Christmas and the New Year to ask people to work out a lump sum of money.
I thought originally we were told that price would not change. But in the new contract they force you to sign going from monthly to the lump sum it says the price will be evaluated each year.
If it goes up next year then I'm done. I mainly a Photoshop user and their other programs on the market.
Lightroom is always bothered me because it's a proprietary cataloging system. Hopefully affinity or someone else will find a way to make a Lightroom clone that will accept the catalogs. I don't use Lightroom but so many people do.
So glad I smelt a rat when subscriptions were first announced. Means I still use old Lr5 (+ affinity photo), but that bothers me not. Was a great program when release so it's still good enough me even if newer versions may have ---- yeah ok, do have newer/better tools.
Lr5 is great! It doesn't support newer cameras though so be careful when upgrading.
@@forestchaput Had that drama for a while (Olympus) so I use Adobe DNG raw converter
Hi, what happens if a person stores a bunch of photos in the cloud, per the storage with adobe lightroom, and then the person chooses to leave adobe, what happens to our data in the cloud?
And, can you verify that adobe is no longer using our personal data, our photos in the adobe cloud, for their own commetcial purposes?
I have used the Photography (20GB) program for years and would like to continue paying yearly, Do I have to do anything, or will this switch from monthly to yearly automatically?
You will need to manually make that switch in your account sometime before your renewal date.
@@forestchaput Forest, I have been over every page in my account and find nowhere that will allow me to change from my monthly payments to annual. Is there another route to take. Thank you for any help with this matter.
Ok, so in Finland the price ent from 12,54 to 18,99 per month and if you try to switch to annual it says "We’re unable to continue with this plan. Select another plan or if you think you’re seeing this message in error, please contact Customer Support."...
I'm not sure on a solution for that one. I've heard of a few other users having the same issue though.
Same problem in the Netherlands. I’m unable to switch to annual.
So with all the bad press this year, they are increasing fees??
Hi I am on the 20gig plan which runs out in Nov. 25. What is not clear to me is if I renew in Nov. 2025 with an annual sub. will I still pay £120 and will this increase in 26 ? I am happy to renew now but again will the price go up in Jan 26 ? I appreciate your help.
Many Thanks Peter
I believe that if you change your billing to annual anytime between now and November 25th, your pricing will remain unchanged forever.
How to find out when your plan is about to end?
You can login to your account and see the renewal date.
I just tried to switch to annual billing and it looks like I'm screwed. I am on the Photography plan and they have been billing me $9.99/month. It says I am on the annual plan, prepaid, but that I will be billed $14.99/month on January 23. The only option I have when I click on it is to cancel the plan. They don't seem to give me any option to change the billing to once/year. They have not sent me any email notification that this was being changed. So much for email notifications sent out one month before our renewal date. So now what? I'm tempted to change plans and drop Photoshop as I rarely ever use it. I do not use the cloud storage at all. I'll have to mull over my options, then figure out how to actually change to a different plan. They may make that difficult, just to try to extract more $$ out of me. I don't make money on photography. This is a hobby for me. I am not willing to dump Adobe and try something else right now either. I'll definitely re-watch this video to look at my options. Thanks for the heads-up, since Adobe didn't bother warning me in advance.
Earlier today I did the same thing you tried to do, and it worked perfectly easily for me. It should give you the option to change to a yearly bill, if you can't do that it must be a glitch.
Thought I would lock in the grandfathered price before 15 January 2025 only to find out in 12 months time my Adobe annual plan will increase by $20. So much for the Adobe promise that there will be no increase in the Adobe Annual Plan. Not quite sure that they understand what grandfathered pricing actually means.
That's interesting! I haven't heard of that happening to anyone else. You might want to reach out to support. Are you on the Photography (20GB) plan?
Very helpful! When I went into the Adobe website I found this verbiage: Starting December 11, 2023, new users and organizations will not be entitled to Creative Cloud Synced files. Starting February 1, 2024, Creative Cloud Synced files will be discontinued for personal accounts that existed before December 11, 2023 (learn more here). Starting October 1, 2024, Creative Cloud Synced files will be discontinued for business accounts associated with organizations that existed before December 11, 2023 (learn more here). Does that mean, I can't synch my Lightroom Classic files synched to my phone with LIghtroom Mobile?
I believe those two things are unrelated. You should still be able to sync Classic files with Mobile.
well, i've been debating cancelling my LR PS plan as i just can't justify it for how much i use it now that i use capture one mostly. I really need photoshop now and then, but now a price increase? no thanks. i'll make gimp or something else work. they should drop the price not increase it.
Know what you are doing if you get Adobe lightroom. I somehow got mine to try and import pictures from a folder that did not have any pictures. I shut the program down while it was trying to import these pictures(that didn't exist). Then every time I tried to open lightroom it immediately crashed my computer. I worked with the Adobe troubleshooter for two hours to try and resolve the issue. I gave him remote access to my computer and he messed my BIOS up so bad I couldn't even get my display to work. All I got was a blank screen. I had to take my computer in to my local computer tech to have him fix my BIOS. Between the cost of the Adobe product and the computer tech I paid about $500. I edited two pictures with it before I had my problems, and I like the unedited versions better than what I did. After I got my computer fixed I immediately deleted all Adobe products from my computer. I know I screwed up, but they charge a fortune for their product. It needs to be more stable than it is. What a joke.
I'm sorry to hear that!
I have the 20Gb plan but don't use Photoshop. The new Lightroom 1Tb seems a good opportunity for me but, as I understand, Lightroom Classic will be available in this plan only starting January 15. So I'm a bit lost on what's better to do. Migrate now to the 1Tb plan but I loose the use of Lightroom Classic (what will happen on 15th of january?) or wait and migrate after the January 15 (if I lock the current price with an annual prepaid on the 20Gb plan, will I have the possibility to migrate to the annual prepaid 1Tb plan ?)
That's a great question. While I don't know the exact answer, I would simply switch plans on the 14th so you are locked into the old pricing on the Lightroom (1TB) plan. I will say though that if you ever think you might want to learn Photoshop, and plan on staying with Lightroom Classic, you might want to stick with the Photography (20GB) plan.
@ Thank you, I think waiting for the 14th is perhaps the best option. In the meantime, well perhaps have news about this possibility.
Does this apply in the US alone or does it also apply in europe? There is no mention if it on german adobe website
Australia only has monthly
I'd never switch from anything to Adobe. I'm a happy Affinity Photo user
Thanks for the video. I went to the Australian Adobe site and the L and LrC with 1TB is not available. Is it not a world wide offer or does it only become available on 15-01-2025? Thanks.
Are prices going up for Adobe Australia coz I've seen nothing about this?
Yes. I was on the annual 20gb plan, paying $AU14.29/month. Today I changed to the annual 20gb pay-up-front plan and paid $AU171.47. I note the price at my renewal, due December 2025, will increase by $20 to $AU191.93 (= $AU16/month).
I have a subscription for Photoshop + Lightroom 20GB for 9.99 monthly and if I want to keep this price must I change to an annual subscription?
Yes. You are correct. You need to do that before your next yearly renewal.
@@forestchaput I cannot find any means to convert my $9.99 monthly plan to an annual payment. Are you sure they will do this and how do you contact them? The chatbot is useless.
@@forestchaput I've already paid for the annual subscription, but logically I probably won't be able to renew my subscription for this package next year?
Storing IP with Adobe seems pretty crazy.
Looks like they're pricing in the 'free' generative credits ,
I have no choice but to get photoshop if i want to use classic.
You could get a single-app plan for Photoshop, but I think that would cost more unfortunately.
Thanks for this information - one point of clarification please. My Adobe subscription account (Photography plan (20GB) says
Subscription Yearly, billed monthly. Will I have to pay the full 12months in one lump sum to remain on this plan at the current price or can I continue my regular monthly payments? Thanks for any clarification.
Yes, you will need to switch from billed monthly, to billed annually.
@@forestchaput Thank you for the verification.