This is such an amazing scene. From the acrobatics, to the vocals and the dancing. Julies voice is so wonderful and she is also incredibly brilliant. I listed to the commentary for the film and she talked about having to sing WHILE doing all this stuff. What a talent!
Everyone I know: Why are you so freaking indecisive?? Me: *Performs the entire song* As you can see, I have a legitimate excuse because Julie Andrews sang about it.
i bought this movie quite a few years ago when a store was going out of business and i haven't seen it anywhere since! i'm glad i picked it up because it is probably my favorite Julie Andrews movie!
She worked her butt off making this film & understandably exhausted after a very long shoot. I'm sorry it didn't do well at the box office, but that was when musicals were dying & the timing was wrong. If it had been released just a few years earlier, it probably would have done better. I loved Julie in this, but then, I can't think of anything she was ever bad in.
Missing verse: "Jenny made her mind up at 39/She would take a trip to the Argentine/She was only on vacation but the Latins agree/Jenny was the one who started the Good Neighbor Policy/Poor Jenny, bright as a penny/Her equal would be hard to find/Oh, passion does not vanish/In Portuguese or Spanish/And she would make up her mind!"
I wonder if this staging of "Jenny" bears any resemblance at all to the original way it was performed on stage - probably not, other than the basic circus theme.
No t didn’t. Yes, there was a circus dream sequence, Danny Kaye played the Ringmaster and there was a swing but it was the genius of Gertrude Lawrence to slow down the tempo and introduce a ‘bump and grind’ presentation to add variety to the verses. She was a great hit of course but this is cinematic interpretation and is entirely valid. Unfortunately the film script didn’t emotionally connect with the audience and the general felling was that it was overdone and empty. Lawrence, Andrews, Wise and 20th Century Fox all deserved better.
My favourite song out of Star!. IMO this soundtrack as a whole was the most catchy/lovable of Julie's movies. Does anybody know where I can find mp3s of the entire OST? I've been trying to find it on both legal downloading and torrent sites with no luck. Amazon's prices for the CD are insane and eBay only has vinyl.
This is one of my all-time favourites. Miss A definitely seemed to enjoy playing the Dragon Lady. Everybody does a wonderful job. Mr Massey is just great as Noel Coward, doing homage to his God Father. The Jenny number sharply divides opinion, but in my opinion climaxes the film brilliantly. Also, a big splashy number is definitely what is needed at this point in the film. I was lucky enough to see Star! in Cinerama, and it looked better than ever. What a shame that it was made at the wrong time.
@scuddster I think there's a quote somewhere where she said something like: " I loved doing it, but hated having to work so hard." Couldn't blame her, seeing that she had scenes like this and burlington bertie, doing her own stunts, and the hundreds of costume fittings to go to.
"Lady in the Dark" was the original vehicle for Ginger Rogers in 1940s. Isn't this the same Jenny number? I like the dream sequence in the older film...and Ginger was an agile dancer...but Julie is a wonderful and nuanced singer....with a beautiful melodic voice.
LADY IN THE DARK was really a play with music as only the dream sequences were musical used, not the entire story. It was sold to Paramount and as a film used Ginger Rogers in the lead. The film cut most of the music altering the story and it was noticeable(?!?) for a Rogers costume involving hundreds of very expensive bird feathers (not ostrich, having brain drain, sorry).
I read that Gertie was freaking out because Danny Kaye was stopping the show with "Tchaikowski and Other Russians" just before "Jennie" and she didn't know what to do with her song to match it.
I love Noel Coward's remark that he couldn't understand why Fox was making a movie about Gertrude Lawrence, since nothing happened except that she got famous, got married, and died!
Because they Coward’ overlooked the success of THE SOUND OF MUSIC and those creators wanted to work with her again, there was a very inexpensive option for a second film on her contract and this seemed like an interesting project, plus Coward was paid for, and wrote, all of the dialogue that his character spoke. It was, like many stage lives ordinary in that you go from project to project and save the drama for on stage. A better treatment would have been the last 15 years of her life in America married to an American and some of her biggest hits. This was too long of a time frame, 25 years, and the script didn’t have the character connect with the screen audience.
@@antoniod My favorite apocryphal tale is that when Gertie put on airs, as she sometimes did, the Master would say 'Yes, darling, it seems a long time since we used to gnaw fish heads together in the gutter.'
The number is ridiculously overblown, but Madame Andrews is still astonishing. One of the most beautiful women in Hollywood history, with a voice like a nightingale, incapable of a wrong move or note.
I'd suggest "Torn Curtain" - well, she wasn't _bad_: like you, I can't think of her ever being bad - but perhaps miscast. Not one of Hitch's great successes! (I don't think Paul Newman looks at ease in it either.)
Since english isn't my mother tongue, can anyone please explain what's the hidden sense in "she would make up her mind", and also "...if you don't keep sitting on the fence"? Thanks
coutinhos100, "she would make up her mind" means she made a decision. "...if you don't keep sitting on the fence" is a figure of speech in English. To sit on the fence means to make a decision.
Actually, to sit on the fence means NOT to make a decision. You won't go to either side. The singer has seen her friend, Jenny, make bad decisions, so she won't be like Jenny. She won't make important decisions at all. (Yes, a late answer, but maybe of interest to someone.)
@metacarple: Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense, because the GR film does lack a certain resolution, as well as the necessary zip. It feels flat, in spite of the good acting and performances. I understand that the extra monetary cost of these extra numbers was an important factor in their elimination.
Diddydiddyfuckmuckmyarse: Yes she smoked as many people of the time did, but not extensively. She died of liver cancer traced to shots taken for her WW2 USO tour. I’ve never read anything conclusive that she was lesbian or had it confirmed except for comments made by Daphne du Maurier and never corroborated by anyone. She was married twice and the second time happily to Richard Aldrich who wrote “Gertrude Lawrence as Mrs. A”; I don’t think it was fiction or pretense. So asshole, gotta tell ya, the flick doesn’t touch on on it. So stay bent over, take it up the ass as usual, get Covid, vote for Trump and die. Have a nice day, bud.
Certainly this whimsical number has never been treated to better SINGING and clearer DICTION. Miss Andrews's performance as a VOCAL is superb. It's a shame they didn't leave it at that, however. She is overshadowed and all-but ECLIPSED by what-must-be one of the most over-produced production numbers in the history of the genre. The pointless gymnastics distract and do nothing to enhance the meaning of the witty text, which Andrews sings so well. To bad! This movie comprised a regrettable series of elaborate miscalculations that did great harm to Miss Andrews's career.
well, if you have objections to this version, try watching, just try, the tacky Ginger Rogers version in the Paramount film version of Lady. the entire picture did harm to Julie, but not for long. circus motif was cluttered, but nice gray set and beautiful costuming for Julie, the last star of stars. and nobody ever sang that brilliantly dark and witty song any better.
Hydihydeedo Hamasshole: It was a film in execution that didn’t come off that’s all; it didn’t harm Andrews’ career like A STAR IS BORN did to Judy Garland or MAME to Lucille Ball because those were lack of discipline, irresponsibility and personal ego and vanity driving those choices. The original Broadway production had a circus them and as a film this built on it. Unless Andrews was going to bump and grind as Lawrence did, but imitate her, it was reinterpreted to take advantage of Andrews considerable talent. It’s just that the overall film, like you, didn’t add up to the sum of it’s parts. Please, get Covid and just go.
MY FAVORITE SCENE FROM STAR! CLASSIC
Wow Julie you were brilliant..I had never seen this before..and thanks whoever posted it..That girl had talent...
This is such an amazing scene. From the acrobatics, to the vocals and the dancing. Julies voice is so wonderful and she is also incredibly brilliant. I listed to the commentary for the film and she talked about having to sing WHILE doing all this stuff. What a talent!
Brilliant! Julie what a creative genius you are! ILY❤️
Everyone I know: Why are you so freaking indecisive??
Me: *Performs the entire song* As you can see, I have a legitimate excuse because Julie Andrews sang about it.
i bought this movie quite a few years ago when a store was going out of business and i haven't seen it anywhere since! i'm glad i picked it up because it is probably my favorite Julie Andrews movie!
She worked her butt off making this film & understandably exhausted after a very long shoot. I'm sorry it didn't do well at the box office, but that was when musicals were dying & the timing was wrong. If it had been released just a few years earlier, it probably would have done better. I loved Julie in this, but then, I can't think of anything she was ever bad in.
...i love hown she dances :) and sings of course..just wonderful
thank you for posting this! my favorite song from this movie!!!
Missing verse: "Jenny made her mind up at 39/She would take a trip to the Argentine/She was only on vacation but the Latins agree/Jenny was the one who started the Good Neighbor Policy/Poor Jenny, bright as a penny/Her equal would be hard to find/Oh, passion does not vanish/In Portuguese or Spanish/And she would make up her mind!"
I agree! Star is a great musical!!! I can't believe it's not more well-known!
I wonder if this staging of "Jenny" bears any resemblance at all to the original way it was performed on stage - probably not, other than the basic circus theme.
No t didn’t. Yes, there was a circus dream sequence, Danny Kaye played the Ringmaster and there was a swing but it was the genius of Gertrude Lawrence to slow down the tempo and introduce a ‘bump and grind’ presentation to add variety to the verses. She was a great hit of course but this is cinematic interpretation and is entirely valid. Unfortunately the film script didn’t emotionally connect with the audience and the general felling was that it was overdone and empty. Lawrence, Andrews, Wise and 20th Century Fox all deserved better.
My favourite song out of Star!. IMO this soundtrack as a whole was the most catchy/lovable of Julie's movies. Does anybody know where I can find mp3s of the entire OST? I've been trying to find it on both legal downloading and torrent sites with no luck. Amazon's prices for the CD are insane and eBay only has vinyl.
Unbelievable! That must have been a tough/difficult role!
It means nobody could tell her what to do, she would go ahead and do whatever she wanted even it was at her own peril.
Such a great performance!
It's still hard to believe how beautiful she was(still is, in a different way)
JULIE ANDREWS ROX MY SOX!!!
This is one of my all-time favourites. Miss A definitely seemed to enjoy playing the Dragon Lady. Everybody does a wonderful job. Mr Massey is just great as Noel Coward, doing homage to his God Father.
The Jenny number sharply divides opinion, but in my opinion climaxes the film brilliantly. Also, a big splashy number is definitely what is needed at this point in the film.
I was lucky enough to see Star! in Cinerama, and it looked better than ever. What a shame that it was made at the wrong time.
Wow, Julie.....your so brave!
@danzelled1 Yes, the magical stardust powdered sugar ! Plus extra vitamin enriched cuz she had to work so hard to make it look easy ...
I've made up my mind...I love this scene.
I completely agree with you. I saw it and had to see it again and again and again! One of my favorite musicals! Julie is amazing!!!!
@scuddster I think there's a quote somewhere where she said something like: " I loved doing it, but hated having to work so hard." Couldn't blame her, seeing that she had scenes like this and burlington bertie, doing her own stunts, and the hundreds of costume fittings to go to.
MY FAVORITE SCENE FROM STAR!
Best thing ever!
Now I know why my mommy was shocked when I came home from kiddie camp back in the 40's singing this song our counselors were singing.
this is great =)!
WOW!!! Thats just ... WOW!!! INCREDIBLE yeah you can so tell that she sang during those stunts!!
"Lady in the Dark" was the original vehicle for Ginger Rogers in 1940s. Isn't this the same Jenny number? I like the dream sequence in the older film...and Ginger was an agile dancer...but Julie is a wonderful and nuanced singer....with a beautiful melodic voice.
LADY IN THE DARK was really a play with music as only the dream sequences were musical used, not the entire story. It was sold to Paramount and as a film used Ginger Rogers in the lead. The film cut most of the music altering the story and it was noticeable(?!?) for a Rogers costume involving hundreds of very expensive bird feathers (not ostrich, having brain drain, sorry).
I read that Gertie was freaking out because Danny Kaye was stopping the show with "Tchaikowski and Other Russians" just before "Jennie" and she didn't know what to do with her song to match it.
Don’t worry, she found a way. Same thing 12 years later with Yul Brynner and THE KING AND I. SHE WAS THE STAR!!!
@richardhanna0 But it's so bizarre, because if I'm not mistaken, it's the same writer and director from Sound of Music!
かっこいい！！！
I love Noel Coward's remark that he couldn't understand why Fox was making a movie about Gertrude Lawrence, since nothing happened except that she got famous, got married, and died!
Because they Coward’ overlooked the success of THE SOUND OF MUSIC and those creators wanted to work with her again, there was a very inexpensive option for a second film on her contract and this seemed like an interesting project, plus Coward was paid for, and wrote, all of the dialogue that his character spoke. It was, like many stage lives ordinary in that you go from project to project and save the drama for on stage. A better treatment would have been the last 15 years of her life in America married to an American and some of her biggest hits. This was too long of a time frame, 25 years, and the script didn’t have the character connect with the screen audience.
@@johnpickford4222 What I didn't know when I made that post seven years ago was that letter Coward allegedly made that remark in was a forgery!
@@antoniod My favorite apocryphal tale is that when Gertie put on airs, as she sometimes did, the Master would say 'Yes, darling, it seems a long time since we used to gnaw fish heads together in the gutter.'
love this movie
I love this so much. It made me buy the movie and I didn't regret it.
this number is an acid trip
Dear Dame Julie as headmaster of the Circus From Hell 😈
HomoTulip: SHE would be the HEADMISTRESS of the circus. With all the head you’ve given you should know that.
Julie Andrews is ONE BIG STAR ....this MOVIE is one of my all time favorites by her
The number is ridiculously overblown, but Madame Andrews is still astonishing. One of the most beautiful women in Hollywood history, with a voice like a nightingale, incapable of a wrong move or note.
She did all of her own stunts, too
I'd suggest "Torn Curtain" - well, she wasn't _bad_: like you, I can't think of her ever being bad - but perhaps miscast. Not one of Hitch's great successes! (I don't think Paul Newman looks at ease in it either.)
@fairportfan2, thanks!
Yes... amazing...!
私はたぶんスターが一番、好きですみんなもちろん好きです本当のスターはジュリーだと思っています
@Buckleigh was it brought up in the film??
Since english isn't my mother tongue, can anyone please explain what's the hidden sense in "she would make up her mind", and also "...if you don't keep sitting on the fence"? Thanks
coutinhos100, "she would make up her mind" means she made a decision. "...if you don't keep sitting on the fence" is a figure of speech in English. To sit on the fence means to make a decision.
Actually, to sit on the fence means NOT to make a decision. You won't go to either side. The singer has seen her friend, Jenny, make bad decisions, so she won't be like Jenny. She won't make important decisions at all.
(Yes, a late answer, but maybe of interest to someone.)
Orla Quirk: An excellent answer and the correct one. And your response is not late.
julie is classy lady
@metacarple: Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense, because the GR film does lack a certain resolution, as well as the necessary zip. It feels flat, in spite of the good acting and performances. I understand that the extra monetary cost of these extra numbers was an important factor in their elimination.
Is She singing "live"????
michael lockett no
gotta tell ya, never saw the flick and don't know if they touch on it, but Gertrude Lawrence was a chain-smoking lesbian!!!
Diddydiddyfuckmuckmyarse: Yes she smoked as many people of the time did, but not extensively. She died of liver cancer traced to shots taken for her WW2 USO tour. I’ve never read anything conclusive that she was lesbian or had it confirmed except for comments made by Daphne du Maurier and never corroborated by anyone. She was married twice and the second time happily to Richard Aldrich who wrote “Gertrude Lawrence as Mrs. A”; I don’t think it was fiction or pretense. So asshole, gotta tell ya, the flick doesn’t touch on on it. So stay bent over, take it up the ass as usual, get Covid, vote for Trump and die. Have a nice day, bud.
Idiotic, useless comment.
Ridiculously overblown? R u kidding? It wasn't grand enough!! It should've been done with at least 250 dancers, 33 lions, etc., etc.!!
@diddymuck what has that to do with anything ?
I always thought... well it's obvious: the musical parodied in S.O.B. is based on this part
AMEN!
Go to hell bitch as you don’t know what you’re talking, or praying, about.
I think b-flat.
The song gets lost in the antics.
Certainly this whimsical number has never been treated to better SINGING and clearer DICTION. Miss Andrews's performance as a VOCAL is superb. It's a shame they didn't leave it at that, however. She is overshadowed and all-but ECLIPSED by what-must-be one of the most over-produced production numbers in the history of the genre. The pointless gymnastics distract and do nothing to enhance the meaning of the witty text, which Andrews sings so well. To bad! This movie comprised a regrettable series of elaborate miscalculations that did great harm to Miss Andrews's career.
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well, if you have objections to this version, try watching, just try, the tacky Ginger Rogers version in the Paramount film version of Lady. the entire picture did harm to Julie, but not for long. circus motif was cluttered, but nice gray set and beautiful costuming for Julie, the last star of stars. and nobody ever sang that brilliantly dark and witty song any better.
Hydihydeedo Hamasshole: It was a film in execution that didn’t come off that’s all; it didn’t harm Andrews’ career like A STAR IS BORN did to Judy Garland or MAME to Lucille Ball because those were lack of discipline, irresponsibility and personal ego and vanity driving those choices. The original Broadway production had a circus them and as a film this built on it. Unless Andrews was going to bump and grind as Lawrence did, but imitate her, it was reinterpreted to take advantage of Andrews considerable talent. It’s just that the overall film, like you, didn’t add up to the sum of it’s parts. Please, get Covid and just go.
@Vagrarian I think the song is better without this verse.