MV Dali, Baltimore and Key Bridge Update | April 4, 2024
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April 4, 2024
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - provides an update on MV Dali, Baltimore, and Key Bridge salvage as of Apr 4, 2024.
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April 3, 2024 | Governor Wes Moore Press Conference on the Collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge
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Thank you for watching the press conference, so we didn't have to.
What a big relief 😮💨
You get more relevant information in 15 minutes from Sal than all the press conferences & news reports combined.
mighty trusting....
Wes Moore loves listening to himself talk. I'm a Marylander and I can't stand the guy. He doesn't understand maritime operation but he thinks he's some authority on the matter.
@@ThatOpalGuyit's certainly trusting. But there is value in finding people you trust to consume the lengthy press releases for you. Especially when they have expertise in that field and can hear things you don't. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't doubt sometimes. Trust but verify.
I only found this channel while searching for non biased information when the bridge collapsed. This is my ONLY SOURCE… I love the way he explains and breaks everything down for people like me that have no clue about maritime
glad you found the channel. the vast majority of us have ZERO clue about worldwide shipping and how absolutely essential it is for the economy of the planet.
That explanation and breakdown is also enjoyed by people like me who have an incomplete clue; I got somewhat interested in shipping while Dad was in the USN and then later in my adult years worked with retail shipping for a couple years, but there is oh so much that was and is beyond of what I knew and know.
You are in good hamds
You’ve come to the right channel.
Sal is so good at these things not to mention we like to take a drink 🥃 when he says certain names of places 😆
Definitely subscribe. You won't be disappointed. I found him during the Evergiven / Suez mess because it was out of the wheelhouse for network TV news.
Personally I'd say that THIS is the channel for shipping news updates. No committee.
This one man, Sal is in command.
👍🏻🇬🇧
Sal needs to mute his Outlook email notifications.
The governor should not be in overall command of this operation. He's a politician, not
a maritime professional, or a Navy or Coast Guard officer.
100% Agree
Maybe the army core of engineering
I agree. He seems to be bathing in the publicity and enjoys being in front of the camera.
Yes he should Maryland Port Administration controls the ports. The Bridge is owned by the State Highway Administration. Both are owned by the State.
He doesnt necessarily need to be any of that (assuming he has really no useful background). All he needs is the right staff to work for him. But! As the Governor he has many other duties and putting this on the plate as well makes no sense from the standpoint of doing everything, so it will eventually be delegated to staff anyway.
You're the only one I listen to for info on this situation. Thanks Sal!
@markholtdorf56same!
For some reason people still want to hear politicians speaking, thinking they will solve everything. The true heroes are the men and women and their leadership orchestrating the actual work behind the scenes.They are too busy for photo ops. Presidents doing drive by visits have never sped things up or made things better.
The guys holding the cutting torch and putting the dive suits on ...
Thumbs up. Agreed. But i sure would like a nice slice of the salaries those leaders are collecting.
No. It's politicians that want to hear themselves speaking, hoping that nobody will realise that they're full of...well, you get the picture.
I agree with your comment on Presidents showing up.
Usually they show up to throw paper towels etc. and use these appearances as photo ops and ego boosting.
And if a President doesn't show up at some point the whining will be heard five miles out to sea.
Saw people last week saying the channel would be clear in a week. Thanks for a report based in reality!
It would be, if they had made the bridge out of water-soluble steel.
@@ThatOpalGuy Wood floats and is somewhat water resistant.
i think it was a misunderstanding they were making/clearing 2 smaller draft channels that would be ready in a week
I'd say more like 6 months before the main channel will be ready for traffic, and then they get to rebuild the bridge while traffic is going through (not going to be fun). The 2 shallow channels are probably ready now, but you're not going to move anything like the Dali through them.
It was hoping for a month. It will take a miracle at this point. I just want everyone to go home. It's a real big deal unfortunately. Those folks going under water are amazing humans! Definitely sending them positive energy ✨️
dont back down on the unified command issue!!! YOU WILL BE PROVEN RIGHT!!!
“When you have 2 quarterbacks - you have 0!!”
caps lock is annoying to read
Like me and Dooner with airships....
The fight comes when the big money comes 🤏
The moment u see the Congress approved a package, all kinds of greeds will kick in🤏
@@olic7266 I KNOW, RIGHT?
You are absolutely correct on this point. A single person (not a politician) is required here with a clear directive that everything released to the public and action taken by participants in the incident are to funnel through that person's command.
Your content for layman like me has been very much appreciated. You are the first channel that has me understanding what was going on within 10-12 hours of the collapse. Thank you.
I get more from Sal and I am 30 minutes away from the disaster. Thank you Sal!
This should tell the sheep something.. But the sheep can never see.
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Wool blind!
Thanks for the report. I've made you my only source for info in this Dali matter. The shipping world is incredible.
more vital to civilization than most realize, as well.
As someone with 30+ years experience in Maryland with the Federal Government, I can tell you this kind of command structure is put in place to prevent any single person from being held responsible when things go sideways. I've seen the progression towards this "leadership" structure for projects big and small, and it rarely works as well as a single, experienced person in charge.
Small craft advisory in effect here until Saturday night, and we had 4" of rain over the last 48 hours. So there will be some issues, affecting the recovery, with wind and water conditions over the next two days.
I will have to keep that in mind, as it surely applies in many places, not just Maryland! like germany! we love committees over here...!
basically, what youre saying is: this is a feature, not a bug? ;)
Keep an eye on the upper Susquehanna. Conowingo Dam is going to be opening a number of floodgates. That dam is a ecological disaster waiting to happen. I'm sure the satellite images are/ will be available. Checking in from Southern Harford County near the Bush River. Be well.
Seems that it already is
@@simonschneider5913gotta be careful with it though, can breed corruption. Don't forget what happened the last time you put 1 person in charge of everything.
There is no one better than SAL. Many thanks for your service SIR. Much appreciated for the TRUTH.
Sal should be in charge !
Any incident or mishap on the waters, I come here to this site. Best SITREPs Thank-you Sal
Darn right. Sal is in charge.
Very nice to have a knowledgeable individual dedicated to relaying information and insight and not crackpot theories and pointed speculations.
I’ve graduated from ICS 300 & 400 and held leadership positions with the Maryland National Guard and Maryland Emergency Management Agency. I agree with you, Sal.
I am so glad your here Sal! Your a voice of reason and experience. You dont pull punches, just say what needs to be said and ALOT of us out here appreciate that attitude!
Living my best La Vida Loca here in south eastern Arizona
Simply PHENOMENAL explanations and updates. It's no wonder you're a University Instructor, Professor!
This is the only source I need to be current on this - WGOWS is WAY ahead and much more comprehensive than any of the 'news outlets'. Thank you Sal.
The BEST commercial shipping and salvage analysis on the internet! Please help this channel and donate $. It takes a lot of time to develop these videos for all of us neophytes in maritime logistics and present it in a clear and concise manner. Show Sal some love. ✌
My ICS geek side is having a blast, here. Unified command? Not a fan. At some point, one person decides where the incident is headed, and everyone else marches. With multiple operations going on at once, there will always be conflict. Conflict isn't, in and of itself, bad. What is bad is unresolved, or poorly resolved conflict. I agree with the Boss. One person, one voice, one place where the ultimate responsibility resides.
Sal, I agree with you 💯 % regarding Unified Incident Command.
Yep , me too.
Um wait , I mean with this because I never joined me too. 😢😢😅😅😂
Call the Dutch. Sleipnir or its little sister Thialf. Both have 2 massive cranes on deck. 15000ton plus lifting capability
I learn more from your channel than just about anywhere else. News outlets aren't giving an insider view or insight like this. Thanks.
Salvage work after the hurricanes Katrina and Rita in shallow waters off the Louisiana coast, involved very similar work which was performed in part by work class ROVs in shallow waters with current and limited visibility. No diver harmed and 24hr ops.
Excellent analysis as always. I have never seen a State's Governor placed as the spokesperson for an incident of this size. You are quite right, a National Incident Commander needs to be appointed by the President,
Very interesting im a Truck Driver in the Upper North East. I just found your channel the updates are very helpful 👍
Great update, Sal. Thanks. Keep us posted…
Outstanding update. It's going to be a long hard job. Keep updating as you see fit. The news media to me is more about them than the problem at hand. Your reports are outstanding.
life is delightfully complicated. thanks Prof.
G'day from Australia 🇦🇺. You have the best coverage Sal. Agree with you re Unified Command. 40 years as a volunteer fire-fighter here. ICS used here too.
Thanks for such clear explanations.
Sal, not only do I really appreciate you sharing your expertise; I also admire your on-screen wardrobe! ;)
Thanks for parsing this for us casually involved. Many thanks Sal.
Once again you are more informative then the news media.
Thank you 🙏 so much dear Sal for all your efforts. It is also very interesting for me to see how what happens and when. Please keep us up to date. You really are a great person. All the best. Take care. A heartfelt "Servus" from Bavaria
Thanks for summarizing and providing an overall explanation of what's happing and who's in charge of what. Appears you are correct about needing an overall CEO - with the balls to get the job done right.
Completely agree, there should be one man in charge, it's unfortunate the politicians are not smart enough to put Sal in charge.
Thanks, Sal! Nice to be kept up-to-date by a professional who communicates clearly.
Great update Sal, some better weather ahead 😊
Thanks for the updates and insights. You're more reliable and less sensational than the main media.
I am with you on the IC. There is heavy political involvement and the environment in DC is stacked against a single IC being appointed. Your reporting is super and it is accurate. Thank you.
Thanks Sal....it is a real treat to hear someone as knowledgable and as fluent a speaker as you talking about this. I'm not a maritimer but having worked for 35 years in a government agency (i retired 10+ years ago) i completely agree that you need one person responsible very high up with a lot of authority in charge and that person is going to be subjected to intense pressure from all sorts of different angles by all the different agencies and political figures in this process. And he or she should be very skilled in dealing with all these different parties. May not even have to be someone who is a maritimer, but someone who is smart and a good listener and good at managing people.
Bring back the Ragin' Cajun...Russel L. Honoré!
I think a big thing that's not mentioned about cutting up the damaged steel work, is the different and unknown stress an tension it's now under and how careful it has to be cut.
Thanks for the precise information yours is the only channel I watch
The new bridge should still be named the same Francis Scott Key bridge. Historical importance here. Thank you for your professional coverage of this disaster.
I have worked around moving heavy equipment and it ain't easy. I couldn't imagine doing it under water and in the middle of rough waters.
Is there any data on the gas pipeline depth? Lying on the surface or 10 or 20 feet down could be a huge difference.
My God yes. Also there are power lines over the Dali that cross the Patapsco.
Sal, thank you for putting so much time into this to provide your expert information without any bias.
If folks could see some sonar imagery of the mess down there it'd do a lot to explain the magnitude of the job...
It wouldn't have been a problem back in the 30's and 40's, back when they got stuff done in a timely manner and done well. Actually, it wouldn't have been a problem in the early 1900's either. You know, when we built the Panama Canal. Now, with all our so called technology, we can't get anything done.
I imagine you are putting in lots of extra time: Thank You for keeping us up to date.
We deal with this kind of problem in florida all the time.😅
Almost every hurricane.😅😅😅😅😅
True, but that is over a wide area and involving dozens, if not hundreds of agencies.
@@wgowshipping How is that any different?
With so few agencies involved with this bridges , and how is it taking so long to get things done?
In Florida, we would have already had everything above.
Water cut away from that bridge.
Tremendous explanations of the situation and the possibilities for a successful salvage. Thanks Sal.
Thanks Sal...another awesome discussion as always !
Excellent update. Thank you Sir.
Thanks for the update Sal.
Sal provides a well articulated and logical presentation. I hope he keeps as well informed as the salvage process moves forward.
Thank you for G-Captain! Always a great job.
I like your globe!
Great analysis of this big, big problem. They seem to be making some progress already getting two temp channels open.
The ship was well named. The damage done and the clean up is truly Surreal.
Thanks for discussing the plan so that everyone could understand.
Saw a large Weeks crane heading south down the Delaware River a few hours ago. I'm guessing it's heading to the Baltimore theater..
Thanks!
Thank you for providing accurate and knowledgeable information.
Another fantastic update, Sal. Thanks!
Great report! I've been looking all day for some news on the bridge disaster when I came across your report. I'll be looking for your next update!
Thank you
Right on. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Sal for an informative, professional, relatable (too us non experts) update of this disaster.
Hi Sal. I understand your passion for the unified command, and i like you have a vast fire background. Im a retired Fire Chief with 32 years experience and ive been on type 1 and type 2 national teams as well as type 3 through type 6 incidents. The issue which is blaringly obvious is it would be impossible to obtain a "Delegation of Authority " which would be mandatory if you were to have only one IC. Not going to happen in this case. Way to many political factions. Lets just hope they all continue to play nice in the sandbox together.
For those who don’t already know, Gov moore (and the others) have been doing daily press conferences every day this week, at 3pm et. We haven’t been able to hear the reports asking questions but hopefully they will get that fixed, especially if these are going to continue to be a daily thing.
People would be crying if he wasn't doing daily press conferences either. He's a black man playing a white man's game so everyone's gunna dog pile on him regardless, just like they did to our mayor calling him a "DEI hire" when he won his election with over 70% of the vote.
Thank you very much for the Update!
Sal you are 100 percent right I am a retired 42yr unlimited tonnage Master,s and federal is a big difference to land accident when it comes to chain of command. Take care. Enjoy your show and appinon.
Great Video, thanks for sharing
I pity the workers because it's very dangerous work. Cutting that steel being held by a crane can shift when finally cut loose and comes through your workers.
I know nothing about maritime and have been really excited to learn from Sal as a result of this terrible disaster. Thank you for speaking in a way that not only explains to those who understand but to those of us who are newbies as well. :)
Thank you Sal for this information, easy to understand your information.
Thank you for the non conspiracy theory expert commentary!
Should be most important whether something is true, right?
I am mildly surprised how little conspiracy nonsense appears in the comments.
@@ThatOpalGuy The Captain was Ukrainian. The Ukrainians are pissed because Biden has stopped sending them billions. This is their way to hit back on the Yankees? What do you say to that conspiracy theory? Can we rule it out?
@@elbuggoThe truth and conspiracy theories are rarely in the same time zone.
@@elbuggoI guess not but you also can't rule out time travelling Romulans in a cloaked warbird using a tractor beam to pull the Dali into the bridge. I'd say either scenario is about as likely.
Thanks for the update....amazing vid as always sal
Thanks Sal, for another timely update. I appreciate your experience and expertise and concise explanation of multiple events occurring at the site.
Very informative discussion. Keep em comin. Thank you.🪝
THANK YOU SAL!
Wonderful - putting a governor, especially a MD governor, in charge of anything will ensure your pockets are going to be picked.....big time. We've heard about "10% for the big guy". Make that 25% for the big guy when you have an emergency situation like this with any governor with his fingers in the pie.
Once the Fed money was stated/guaranteed all the politicians started running and jockeying for $$$$$$$ position.
Project will take years and tons of paperwork to get up a new bridge.
My thoughts exactly.
😂
It seems when disasters like this occur one of the top agendas is politicking 😢.
Donald Trump does it all the time... just saying
More like passing the incompetence away and blaming someone else !
@@jaynederp5236Trump would have this bridge gone in a week.
Thanks for the update!
Excellent update Sal. Thank you!
Sal, a general question: You mentioned HAZMAT containers are likely stored near the bow. You said it in a way that suggested this is SOP for container ships. I was curious as to why. (Stability? Keeping it away from the crew quarters? something else?)
They are outside the hull in case of fire. They are forward so that they are away from the engine and propulsion machinery aft. The crew, should there be a fire can set up a water barrier to prevent spread aft. If they were in the middle, they would have to fight the fire from two sides with a crew of 22.
@@wgowshipping Ah, so point of least risk to the ship and ease of containment. Thanks!
I live in Maryland, i think Wes Moore is collecting political add sound bits. I agree this needs to be handled by the Army Corps of Engineers and or a Central Command
otherwise it will be very slow going in the months ahead.
@@Carlos-im3hn agree slow and done correctly with safety in mind plus give the family's of the road crew closer, hopefully the divers will be able to locate their bodies. This whole remove and rebuild will take 3-5 years depending on weather and funding. But for all the out of work dock workers and businesses hopefully they get the financial support they need to provide for their families.
@@carolynallen9016 The way government operates in super slo-mo, don't count on it taking 3-5 years. Removing debris and clean up will be the easy part. The hard part will be bridge design and construction. Everyone will be jockeying for position about what design should be used, because everyone will want to take credit for the new bridge design. Then there is the spectre of azzhole environmental groups filing lawsuits for whatever reason they can conjure up.
Based on the way every other infrastructure project runs way behind schedule and way over budget, I'll bet it will be 7-8 years before the bridge is completed and reopened.
The background information was excellent (i.e., Navy, Army capabilities, for instance). Thanks.
Sal! Crane operator here in the port of LA. Love listening to your show while I’m at work.
Is Sparrow Point Open? Looking at Google Earth looks like there are a few car companies there ( BMW and VW ). Was wondering if ships are still delivering cars there…
They are delivering them to TradePoint Atlantic which is the new name for Sparrows Point. They are offloading the scrap metal there too so it can be downsized and scrapped.
Could they use large air bags and raise underwater sections to the point they could tow them out of the channel before cutting them up?
I was wondering the same thing. All of that debris "weighs" less while it's underwater. You wouldn't even have to get them above the surface - just enough to free them from the bottom and then tow them out of the way so you could "take your time" with them in a less in-demand area. I'm sure that's all easier said than done.
Could they tow the, sure they could, but the 4-5 feet of mud at the bottom of the river could make that hard. With that, from talking to a crane operator i know, while the Chesapeake 1000 could be reconfigured into a drag line configuration, it wouldn’t be worth it, they would bring something else in.
you are underestimating how much it weighs. The displacement needed to "float" the entire section at once would be equivalent to all the barges needed to carry out the pieces meaning if it takes 10 barges you need 10 barges worth of displacement to float this thing. Plus you need to rig the barges safely to do so and get them all synchronized and then find a place where you can put the section which is basically nowhere. It is done this way because it makes the most sense most of the ideas people give require huge custom rigs and for other jobs that is necessary but it is overkill for this one.
@toastrecon It does not weigh less under water. If you drop a 100lb steel weight in your swimming pool, it still weighs 100 lbs when it's on the bottom. It dosent magically only weigh 10lbs down there. It's a matter of displacement.
@@toddbruhn57 Bro, gotta learn about buoyancy. The 100lb steel weighs 100lb minus the weight of the water it displaces.
Outstanding update, as always. Thank you!
i live in the Baltimore area, and i get way more actual news from THIS channel than the local news!
Media is no longer a source of pure information.
Another excellent summary - thanks.
I would think that a governor is the least qualified to be in charge.
Who was in charge of the 9/11 WTC collapse? Rudy Giuliani
@remington5978You are correct. Wes Moore is not your standard "politician" governor.
Still haven't seen anyone suggesting flotation devices to effectively lift sections out of the water.
Thank you for the excellent analysis Sal. Your personal experience is SO valuable in unpacking this situation.
Thank you!