IMJIN WAR Ep. 11 - Kato Kiyomasa in Northern Korea & Manchuria

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  • @sagarbalikai6977
    @sagarbalikai6977 3 роки тому +11

    " Kato Kiyomasa's steel balls " a truly beautiful way to describe Kato-san 😂😂💯💯

  • @yolotheyeeted7825
    @yolotheyeeted7825 4 роки тому +14

    This is currently the only series that focuses on the Imjin War. You did an excellent job on giving details about the war. Thx!

    • @shashwatsinha2704
      @shashwatsinha2704 4 роки тому

      A new one has started recently. I've been watching it. It's also good. The channel's name is Japan at War.

  • @freebsdojo3769
    @freebsdojo3769 4 роки тому +11

    I have read many books on this subject and I was fortunate enough to purchase Sam Hawley's fine book in hardcover for only 45000 won in 2005 in Seoul. It is by far my favorite book in the English language on the subject. I recommend this book for everyone interested in Korean and Japanese history and/or in historical warfare. I reread Samuel's book just last year and I am ecstatic to have found this channel. Please keep up the content sir!

  • @AlexaRobin21
    @AlexaRobin21 4 роки тому +14

    Glad to see the series back, Professor.

  • @semkoops
    @semkoops 4 роки тому +7

    After watching all the Imjin War episodes the past days I subscribed. Your videos are criminally underviewed.

  • @hms_thunderchild5456
    @hms_thunderchild5456 4 роки тому +12

    I remember reading your book and it captivated me. I love learning about the Sengoku Jidai period, and marvel at how Japan could field armies larger and more formidable than any other at the time. Great videos!

  • @paulhudson6487
    @paulhudson6487 4 роки тому +16

    Keep it up Samuel! There's so much more for me to learn.

  • @robertscicluna4384
    @robertscicluna4384 4 роки тому +3

    Almost missed your updates on the Imjin War!!! You really gave justice to Kato Kiyomasa's war effort in this video!! Keep up the good work! I'll be watching!

  • @hocestbellumchannel
    @hocestbellumchannel 4 роки тому +6

    Brilliant series, i wish i had your narration-skills!

  • @TheSocialAlchemy
    @TheSocialAlchemy 4 роки тому +3

    Brilliant. Loved reading your book, and really enjoying the continuation of this story here. Thanks Samuel!

  • @ROYISADOG
    @ROYISADOG 4 роки тому +3

    Great great series!
    Fantastic to get some knowledge on a lesser known period of Asian history for Westerners. Hope you can bring morwcommentary on other lesser known era's in the future!
    Thank you.

  • @mistergeopolitics4456
    @mistergeopolitics4456 4 роки тому +3

    Another excellent video. I can't wait until the next one.

  • @versusminus77
    @versusminus77 4 роки тому +1

    great video series

  • @Almakoreana
    @Almakoreana 4 роки тому +4

    It was worth waiting for.
    Thank you very much.

  • @cschandragiri
    @cschandragiri 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Samuel, thanks a lot for the series. I like your narration skills. Looking forward for a Sengoku Jidai series. Honestly this channel needs more subscribers.

  • @tangminh11
    @tangminh11 4 роки тому +2

    Great work Samuel. Looking forward to next episode

  • @watermel
    @watermel 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks so much for granting my request for an extended video

  • @maximusaurelius610
    @maximusaurelius610 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks 🙏🏽 great amazing series!

  • @jtilton5
    @jtilton5 4 роки тому +7

    I bought your book at a shop in Insadong when I was an ESL Teacher just outside Seoul back in 2005. it cost me about 40,000 Won. I kept it for many years but sadly I lent it to a coworker Who never returned it and then he left to go back home. Really wish I could find an new copy, but it's not for sale where I live now in Thailand. And to be honest I can't really afford it now that my job is on hold until this pandemic is over. If any of you get a chance to read it, It;s a great book.

    • @realsamuelhawley
      @realsamuelhawley  4 роки тому

      Thank you, jtilton5! The Imjin War is now available in paperback for a cheaper price (and has a better cover, I think, than the original hardcover, which is now long out of print).

  • @dwolfe2907
    @dwolfe2907 4 роки тому

    Getting interesting sam!! Very awesome video!

  • @ic3125
    @ic3125 4 роки тому +3

    Nooo waaaaay another one I’m Officialy the happiest creature in earthhh

  • @islanduck
    @islanduck 3 роки тому +1

    how could anyone dislike your videos? I laugh every time I see a dislike

  • @gdsinghshorts9724
    @gdsinghshorts9724 4 роки тому +4

    Free Manchuria soon

  • @peterchobausch
    @peterchobausch 4 роки тому

    super series of videos.

  • @snakeenjoyingacanofbeans5219
    @snakeenjoyingacanofbeans5219 4 роки тому +2

    I like this channel. Most professors are boring or they talk down to their audience, but not here.

  • @islamicschoolofmemestudies
    @islamicschoolofmemestudies 2 роки тому

    7:28 What intrigues me the most is that the first thing Samurai Warlord like Kato Kiyomasa did after conquering an area was....Basically building a Tax Office filled with Admin staff and Bureaucrats who assessed Taxation situation. Other daimyo were usually overcame with bloodlust and just plunder the countryside for young woman and food, but not with Kato...He organized that area into a literal Governorship where locals have to pay tax to the colonial authority.
    This man is a good colonial officer.

  • @RichardGlass33
    @RichardGlass33 2 роки тому +1

    These are amazing I don't know why more people don't see these.

  • @artboiartypants9171
    @artboiartypants9171 4 роки тому +3

    Yay!!!!

  • @JC-nc8hu
    @JC-nc8hu 4 роки тому

    Thx

  • @romeyburgin7221
    @romeyburgin7221 4 роки тому +6

    Samuel you said the Korean navy prevented the Japanese from resupplying the Japanese via the Yellow Sea. What prevented the Japanese from taking supplies and reinforcements up the Sea of Japan?

    • @realsamuelhawley
      @realsamuelhawley  4 роки тому +11

      Korea's east coast wouldn't have been practical for landing reinforcements and supplies. You've got a rugged, largely inhospitable coastline, with a big mountain range (the Taebaek Mountains) directly inland, like a high wall. So landing here would have been difficult, and would have necessitated carrying supplies overland across major mountains to get onto main line of march. Also, no rivers on the east coast. The west coast (Yellow Sea side) has the Han River providing convenient access to Seoul, and the Taedong River to Pyongyang.

    • @rchristeston9976
      @rchristeston9976 4 роки тому

      @@realsamuelhawley ,

    • @mint8648
      @mint8648 2 роки тому

      @@realsamuelhawley thnx

  • @matthewct8167
    @matthewct8167 4 роки тому +1

    I would like to know about Date Masamune’s role in this war

  • @Rikoko320
    @Rikoko320 4 роки тому +4

    Kato and Konishi were both very competent, but at the same time very different. Kato was Buddhist. Konishi was Christian.

  • @semkoops
    @semkoops 4 роки тому +18

    The attitude of the Hamgyong natives seem to be, in the context of a modern Korean nation-state, traitorous. But I can imagine also the frustration of the locals as being seen as a periphery whilst at the same time being taxed heavily by the central government. It reminds me personally of (and I acknowledge that this can be seen as far-fetched) the way many Ukrainians welcomed the German Nazis during Operation Barbarossa and how it makes us nowadays (and with the painful knowledge of what happened during Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe) look back at that with raised eyebrows.

    • @mr.s2005
      @mr.s2005 4 роки тому +1

      and nowadays, the leftists

    • @semkoops
      @semkoops 4 роки тому

      @@mr.s2005 No.

    • @부엉이형-r8t
      @부엉이형-r8t 4 роки тому

      함경도인은 조선 남동부에서 이주한 경상도 범죄자 + 주르첸 원주민

    • @창녀줄리가청와대접수
      @창녀줄리가청와대접수 4 роки тому

      They were taxed the same rate as the rest of the country, which was 10% of harvest plus some mandated labor, which could be translated to an equivalent of total tax rate of 30% of harvest. The climate is so inhospitable, it simply was difficult to make a living, and the people there were discriminated for the reasons Hawley. Think of the battle at Chosin Reservoir during the Korean War. What's funny is that when Kiyomasa arrived to a welcoming people, he thought he would be generous and told the people to pay 50% of their harvest as tax. That along with Kiyomasa getting his butt kicked in Manchuria and news that the Chinese are coming turned the tide and the Koreans began fighting back. He had to abandon the northeast Korea.

    • @Wandrative
      @Wandrative 4 роки тому

      @@부엉이형-r8t 뭔개소리지. 그건 극한 일부분이지.

  • @owned141117
    @owned141117 4 роки тому

    Gotta give it to him although he was brutal pretty much unnecessarily, he does make a good military role model imo.

  • @Wolfram_von_Richthofen
    @Wolfram_von_Richthofen 3 роки тому

    Ha,that was an image from M&B Warband

  • @golonawailus4312
    @golonawailus4312 4 роки тому +2

    then there goes the founder of qing dynasty ---Nurhachi

  • @jeffyoung60
    @jeffyoung60 4 роки тому +8

    This UA-cam documentary of the little-known (In the West) Imjin War by the scholarly Mr. Samuel Hawley is thoroughly entertaining and very convenient to those who want to begin to know what the Imjin War was about. The Imjin War was in essence a devastating East Asian World War in 1592. Millions of people died. The major nations involved were Ming China, Chosen (Korea) and recently unified Japan under generalissimo, Hideoyoshi Toyotomi. Yet this UA-cam documentary can't even begin to give due credit to Mr. Hawley's book, "The Imjin War". It is thoroughly comprehensive down to the minute details of individuals from all sides participating in the diplomatic negotiations up to and through the Imjin War. I remember the entertaining detail of the high-ranking Chinese emissary who got into a lot of trouble when he became smitten with a Japanese general's beautiful Korean concubine. Exhibiting appalling lack of judgment and self-discipline, the Chinese diplomat importuned the Japanese general for possession of the young Korean woman. The end result was the emissary having to flee for his life from the enraged Japanese general. Amusing details like that bring the entire episode of the Imjin War into sharp human focus. Never explained by any Imjin War author is the puzzling reticence of the Ming Chinese commander-in-chief, Rubo, and his staff after their severe beating by the Japanese during the Japanese retreat from Pyongyang. Rubo ignored his Korean allies' advice and rushed headlong into a magnificently-staged, classic Japanese ambush. Rubo barely escaped with his life. After this ignominious defeat, the Ming Chinese are reluctant to pursue the war actively and infuriate the Koreans by engaging in stalemate conduct and what appears to be duplicitous diplomatic dealings between the Japanese and the Koreans. No one seems to know the truth or the whole story. The Koreans would later always appear gracious and abundantly grateful to Ming China for its timely military assistance. Like I say, you have to purchase Mr. Hawley's book, dedicate generous time and read it from front to back. It's not dry reading. It is engrossing and still as much informative. Other English-language books exist about the Imjin War and I recommend them all. Today the Imjin War is largely forgotten in China, much like the War of 1812 is forgotten in the U.K. and the U.S. It would be forgotten in Japan except for the long-standing memory of Hideoyoshi, whose dreams of East Asian conquest tragically did not die with him and would return in 1905 to successfully enslave Korea and its people.

    • @schwarzerhaufen1727
      @schwarzerhaufen1727 4 роки тому

      its rather sad that you would call him a scholarly after watching two previous videos

  • @zxp8272
    @zxp8272 4 роки тому +1

    Dear uploader, i want to tell you that the "williow palisade" didn't exist at that time. It was built in Qing period.

  • @zali13
    @zali13 4 роки тому

    Kato went tiger hunting.

  • @thomasciarlariello3228
    @thomasciarlariello3228 2 роки тому

    I was taught 1910 and 1932 conquests of how Korea's Queen Myeongsong became mother of Hirohito which led to an easier surrender of WWII to remember how Koreans were Elizabethan sailors before Japan invaded proven by a genetic chart of "Scientific American November 1991" since even Manchurians have some European characteristcs.
    Matter in fact Elizabethan to Queen Anne sailors referred to Korea as "Exotic far away land of Gigantics" while Korean Hangul is similar to Roman, Hebrew, Greek and Cuneiform while traditional costumes of Korea are similar to what Europeans had worn during 16th to 17th centuries.
    Koreans call themselves Arirang similar to Aryan while Auld Lang Syne was a YI dynasty anthem to remember how from 1884 to 1945 Japanese forces stormed across Asia Pacific to kill all males and impregnate all females.
    Ever read "Koreans Are White by Vladimir Mitovitch?
    "Dressing a Galaxy" By Trisha Biggar noticed similarities.

  • @부엉이형-r8t
    @부엉이형-r8t 4 роки тому +1

    임진왜란 이전에는 주르첸을 통제 하던 나라가 명제국과 조선이었는데 임진왜란으로 주르첸이 통제력을 벗어났죠
    조선과 명제국은 주기적으로 주르첸 부족의 부족장을 북경이나 서울로 불러들여 임명장을 내리고 부족장의 아들을 인질로
    조선왕의 경비원이 되게 하였죠 조선에 들어온 주르첸인중 조선의 고위직이 된사람들도 있습니다.

  • @IceglacierArnar
    @IceglacierArnar 4 роки тому

    Too short episodes, only 12 minutes, should be a least 30 minutes. And always the repeat and starting over same introductions in a new episode. It is like he is trying to squese as much as he can out the story. On positive side, the episodes are very well done and good for historians to watch.

  • @Packless1
    @Packless1 4 роки тому

    0:35 ...this never works well, if you come too close to China's border...!
    ...ask General Mac-Arthur...!
    7:00 ...Kuk Kyong-in ...sound a bit like 'Quisling' to me...!

  • @JC-nc8hu
    @JC-nc8hu 4 роки тому +1

    Plz change BGM in the beginning

  • @rijantohadianto3492
    @rijantohadianto3492 4 роки тому

    From what I read in Wikipedia, it said the main reason why Kato Kiyomasa retreat his force is because they suffered heavy losses from Jurchens (Manchu) assault
    Even Jurchen leader [That time Jurchen/Manchu tribe was still paid tribute and became vassals to the Ming emperor] 'Nurhaci' offer military assistance to Joseon and Ming, however the offer was refused by both countries, particularly Joseon, saying that it would be disgraceful to accept assistance from the "Barbarians" to the north
    [This would be interesting if only Joseon accept the aid from Jurchen, how was the war going to be?] 😄
    And about Japanese watch nearby volcanic island that they thought was Mount Fuji, they were mistook it
    Here I put some of the article I copied from the Wikipedia link: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasions_of_Korea_(1592%E2%80%931598) >> check --- Imjin War: First Invasion 1592-1593 and then
    --- Campaigns in Hamgyong Province and Manchuria ---
    Katō Kiyomasa then decided to attack a nearby Jurchen castle across the Tumen River in Manchuria to test his troops against the "barbarians", as the Koreans called the Jurchens (Orangkae in Korean and Orangai, both derived from the Mongol term Uriankhai "forest barbarian").[186] Kato's army of 8,000 was joined by 3000 Koreans, at Hamgyong, because the Jurchens periodically raided across the border.[186] Soon the combined force sacked the castle, and camped near the border; after the Koreans left for home, the Japanese troops suffered a retaliatory assault from the Jurchens.[186] Katō Kiyomasa retreated with his forces to avoid heavy losses.[186] Because of this invasion, rising Jurchen leader Nurhaci offered military assistance to Joseon and Ming in the war. However, the offer was refused by both countries, particularly Joseon, saying that it would be disgraceful to accept assistance from the "Barbarians" to the north.
    The Second Division continued east, capturing the fortresses of Jongseong, Onsong County, Kyongwon County, and Kyonghung County, and finally arrived at Sosupo on the estuary of the Tumen River.[186] There the Japanese rested on the beach, and watched a nearby volcanic island on the horizon that they mistook as Mount Fuji.[186] After the tour, the Japanese continued their previous efforts to bureaucratize and administrate the province, and allowed several garrisons to be handled by the Koreans themselves.[187]

    • @부엉이형-r8t
      @부엉이형-r8t 4 роки тому

      가토를 공격한 부족은 노토부족인데 임진왜란 이후 조선군의 공격으로 멸망하고 노토부족장은 누르하치에게 투항

  • @MarkH10
    @MarkH10 4 роки тому +1

    What's wrong with these guys?
    They seem, by the map you display, to consider moving North of the Imjin River from Kaesong to Anbyon, a coastal city.
    If traffic can flow northeast, it can certainly flow southwest as well. That would cut their supply line to 50-80km overland.
    They already know there is no Korean fleet on the northeast side of the peninsula.

  • @matthewct8167
    @matthewct8167 4 роки тому +1

    I still maintain that the Japanese should have invaded Manchuria and got the Koreans to pay for it, by say it was a way to help them defend their borders.

    • @tvgerbil1984
      @tvgerbil1984 4 роки тому

      If Hideyoshi simply wanted Korea and its wealth, he already had it by taking most of Korea. If he wanted China and its wealth, sending his troops to chase Jurchen riders outside the Great Wall was a fool's errand. Hideyoshi was a conqueror with big ego and ambition. He was nobody's hired hand.

    • @matthewct8167
      @matthewct8167 4 роки тому

      TV Gerbil good point, I know it was unlikely he’d do it. My idea was that he first build a partnership with Korea and China though a 2-3 years charm offensive, than conducts a economically and diplomatically efficient invasion of Manchuria. Then build up a large and resource rich base in the mainland there with Korea flipping part of the bill of the invasion and defending the supply lines. You convince them to do that by selling it as defending an ally. I admit that This might be unlikely because it’s devised from a colonial mindset.

    • @tvgerbil1984
      @tvgerbil1984 4 роки тому

      In fact the whole enterprise by Toyotomi Hideyoshi in Korea was the fatal reason that doomed his young son and ended his clan. Tokugawa Ieyasu wouldn't have achieved usurping the Toyotomi clan if Hideyoshi had reserved his loyal forces for his young son and spent his few remaining years consolidating the base of his clan. So if Hideyoshi did send his forces to chase after the powerful Jurchens in Manchuria, it would still be a poison chalice that doomed his clan. In any case, Hideyoshi died in 1598. None of his lieutenants had much enthusiasm of going after the Jurchen barbarians. So it is a moot point.

    • @matthewct8167
      @matthewct8167 4 роки тому

      TV Gerbil the biggest reason for Japanese failure was poor logistics, which the Koreans made exponentially worse by Guerilla attacks and consistently winning against the Japanese in naval combat. If Hideyoshi can get the Koreans and Chinese on his side, the conquest of a divided Manchuria and acquisition of its rich resources is a lot more plausible than conquering Korea, China, or both. If he can’t get the first two on his side, the invasion is a no go and your idea is the only way for him.

    • @destiny_6204
      @destiny_6204 3 роки тому

      Why you support japan to invade Korea in the first place? Japan always had been the trouble maker for Koreans.

  • @GKlife-rs5hp
    @GKlife-rs5hp 4 роки тому +3

    Nice chanel. Bad that you have smal audience

  • @flyingbears5635
    @flyingbears5635 3 роки тому +1

    why dont u mentioned anything that ming did in that war? ming have the most sophiscated cannon in the region, and japanese was crushed by mings firepower. i better go and read my wikipedIa.

  • @mistertibbs472
    @mistertibbs472 3 роки тому

    Rule 1 of occupation: don’t alienate the local populous.

  • @varisleek3360
    @varisleek3360 3 роки тому

    love the series but that intro is jarring to hear every 10 to 15 minutes

  • @marthlink5015
    @marthlink5015 4 роки тому +2

    Personally I've always hated Kato Kiyomasa~ his arrogance , pride, and strict reliance on HIS might ruined is own family. He so hated Mitsunari Ishida that he doomed Hideyoshi's Heir and legitmized Ieyasu's compete for rule- As decent of a ruler Ieyasu became he was he was kind've a opportunist that caused more needless war in my humble opinion of course. But in some respects It was better Ieyasu than some other lords.

  • @JC-nc8hu
    @JC-nc8hu 4 роки тому +1

    Have you read Yi’s dairy ? 亂中日記

    • @realsamuelhawley
      @realsamuelhawley  4 роки тому +2

      Yes, I have. "Nanjung Ilgi" and "Imjin Changcho" were important resources for my book "The Imjin War."

    • @JC-nc8hu
      @JC-nc8hu 4 роки тому

      Samuel Hawley Did you read Chinese characters one ?

    • @realsamuelhawley
      @realsamuelhawley  4 роки тому

      @@JC-nc8hu No, I can't read hanja. (I used to know a little, but not much.). The title 亂中日記, is easy to recognize, however.

  • @thomasfoley804
    @thomasfoley804 4 роки тому

    The history is fascinating! But your music is obnoxious.

  • @kokekuka24
    @kokekuka24 3 роки тому +1

    Jurchen = Korean ????