I SERVED ON HMS INTREPID , I WAS ABOVE THE BRIDGE AS LOOKOUT AND REPLACEMENT GUN CREW THINGS I SAW WILL STAY WITH ME FOREVER ,RIP TO THE BROTHERS THAT DID NOT MAKE IT BACK
I was visiting London when the victory parade was held in 1982. The determination to liberate the Falklands is something the British can be proud of! I’m from the Netherlands btw
@@misterasterisco5217 “Oil fields” and “Antarctica”. Oh here we go. Let’s pretend that you’re right and the U.K. is only interested in oil! In which case, please can you give a believable explanation why the British decided let go of oil rich Nigeria, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman and other such places without a fight? By the way, there is a fife breve between these colonies and the Falklands. You may not have noticed the massively oil rich ex colonies were and still are, produce billions of barrels of oil per day. All that lovely oil and none are going to the British coffers. The Falklands produced and will produce.....wait for it.......I have the answer. One moment, it’s right here....are you ready??....NONE!!! When you look for your answer to try and substantiate your bullsh1t, will you please try to do so by citing some actual facts? Or will that be too difficult for you? Are you also able to provide a viable believable explanation why the British chose only a company of Royal Marines, to defend such a valuable oil reserve commodity that they were later willing to spend millions and a huge task force to retake? Because not putting a huge garrison there before 1982 will make sense and give some substantiation to why the British foreign and commonwealth office were seeking to accommodate Argentina including discussing “lease back” options and were trying to persuade the Kelpers to accept Argentinian sovereignty in some form. Because you see Artersico, I can direct you to prime sources from both sides which is substantial evidence including documentary EVIDENCE which proves this. So for you to substantiate your conspiracy theory and prove that the whole thing was about oil, please can you cite documentary evidence? When I say documentary evidence; I don’t mean a link to some conspiracy website where the unsubstantiated lie is merely repeated without the tiniest shred of proof but pretending it’s the truth. I mean primary source evidence from minutes or government communiques from 1982. I doubt you will find any. So instead, I would like you to take off your tin foil hat and try using cognitive reasoning then drawing your conclusions. That means reasoning based on the evidence, instead of approaching the subject with your cynical already held suspicions and then you go looking for the flimsiest of evidence to try and somehow, substantiate this rubbish without looking at all the other evidence. It’s called the eureka syndrome. Only looking for what you want to see and finding something slightly resembling what you’re looking for, while completely ignoring the huge white elephant of proof sitting in the room which tells another story.
What a wonderful treat! I was 13 and used to listen to the BBC world service all during the Falklands war while living in Texas USA. Thank you very much!
@@gerrywatson261 . I had that feeling Gerry 😉. “There and back with JJ Black.” The only Argentine aircraft that we in Invincible saw was, a Huey Helicopter that we captured and brought back onboard for a service, before handing it over to the Falklands Island Air Service.
@@Frankszky1923 There was no Argentine back then. The United Provinces of Rio de la Plata instead. "The United Provinces attempted to control the islands through commerce, granting fishing and hunting rights to Jorge Pacheco in 1824. Pacheco's partner Luis Vernet established a toehold in the islands in 1826 and a fledgling colony in 1828. He also visited the British consulate in 1826, 1828 and 1829 seeking endorsement of his venture and a garrison. In 1829, he sought a naval vessel from the United Provinces to protect his colony but as none were available he was appointed Military and Civil Commander, prompting British protests.Attempts to regulate fishing and sealing led to conflict with the United States and the Lexington raid of 1831. With the colony in disarray, Major Esteban Mestivier was tasked to set up a penal colony but was murdered in a mutiny shortly after arriving in 1832. Protests at Mestivier's appointment received no response and so the British dispatched a naval squadron to re-establish British rule."
@@atisalvaro Uhh no, Argentina has never stopped being the United Provinces, it's our official country name lol. Argentina was adopted later as a secondary and is now the one you see in everything related to the country, but it's not a different State and the UP name is still there as official.
Want to know something? Argentines surrendered in their thousands to very few UK troops. Soldiers don't fight for a rag on a pole and a patriotic ideal but to stay alive, for their fellow soldiers and for the survival of their people. Argentinian soldiers in their memoirs said this cold place wasn't home. Thats what they fought for. A lump of rock and an old colonal dispute. But the UK troops ffought for the right of a people to live in THEIR country where they were born without fascist rule.
@@likeitout Are you naive or you just claim to be it online? Cmon dude, Argentina a formidable enemy in 1982?? with viet nam era AR4s? with just 5 excotes to fight a 100+ navy fleet prepared to war against the formidable USSR? Yeah? you guys in Europe do suck the media propaganda, but here in Latin America (I am from Chile) we know the islands belong to GB now just because they are the bully with the bigger gun, not by right.
@@misterasterisco5217 two things. You’ve provided NO proof whatsoever, that the British fought for oil. Why? HOW did you come to conclude that the fight was over oil? If you’ve looked at FACTS and EVIDENCE then cut snd paste it and show me here. If not then all you’ve achieved is to show the world that you’re another one of these mindless conspiracy theorists who believe the idle baseless Bullsh1t often repeated in conspiracy sites. Yes. And Elvis is still alive and a member of the Illuminati. Funny how you mentioned “Vietnam era” hardware. Didn’t Vietnam defeat a superpower with bamboo, Kalashnikov’s tenacity and courage? The Vietnamese could only dream of the modern equipment in the arsenals of Argentina’s military who fought a regional power on their own doorstep. Vietnamese people can only laugh at the macho boasting from the keyboards of your neighbours, yet the Armada Republica Argentina, slinked back to the safety of their ports and hid away while the rest of the armed forces defended so called “Argentina”. Why? Would you like some facts? The British had to try and project their war from halfway around the world. That meant the British were EXTREMELY restricted in what they could take and what they were able to do. They were the assaulting forces in situations that normal convention dictates the MINIMUM ratio of combat troops should be 3:1. But the British were throwing themselves into well established well placed formidable defensive positions with the limited amount of infantry that a task force could convey AND sustain. That meant . The U.K. could only put 6000 infantry combatants to face 11,000 garrison troops where even the potato peelers in the kitchens could pick up guns and fire back. Talking about firing back. You think the british were better equipped? Why don’t you do something for the first time before responding. RESEARCH!!!!! Google the standard issue FAL rifle and then compare it to the British SLR. The same Belgian weapon? NO!! The U.K. had the semi auto version and faced Argentinians shooting at them with the FULL AUTOMATIC version which was MUCH better in defensive warfare and can put many more rounds down towards the enemy. Don’t listen to the excuses and conspiracies. Research the excellent US manufactured night vision goggles that the Argentinian military had compared to the poor quality heavier British versions which were limited issue. Take a look at the quality of israeli cold weather parkas and compare them to the cotton smocks worn by the U.K. forces. Seriously. Compare the British DMS boot with the United States manufactured fully waterproof high legs that every Argentinian soldier possessed. In fact, after goose green, some paratroopers were replacing their own boots with the ones taken from dead Argentinians and that’s a fact. Have you compared the few aircraft that the British were able to put into that theatre then look at the numbers and quality that the Argentinian airforce possessed? The British could only sustain a small number of multi role Harriers that were only just supersonic. Against a large fleet of hundreds of strike aircraft, many that were in the arsenals of France, the USA and Israel. The attrition alone could have destroyed British chances. When an Argentinian pilot would need only do one sortie and “tag team” to his comrades to keep oncoming one after the other, the 42 British pilots would have to do fifty sorties each to keep up air cover. They were exhausted. If half the aircraft from the carriers are shot down, the British couldn’t replace them and were left to fight with 20 against an airforce that still had hundreds of fighters and pilots only a few hundred miles away. Have you ever read “No Picnic”? I mean the book, not the twisted lying Viveza Criolla Argentinian rebranding of the meaning. The book highlights these disadvantages. Julian Thompson told his commanders BEFORE THEY DISEMBARKED, that it wasn’t going to be a picnic. It has NOTHING to do with so called “Argentinian surprises”. The British expected to lose more. Much more. But the differences in military philosophy can be surmised by this. The U.K. infantry had to “yomp”’as the marines call it, 90 kilometres carrying 40 kilos on their backs over mountains and bogs, sleeping forms few hours in hastily dug fox holes in soaking cold water that froze to their bodies and feet in conditions that drove Argentinian special forces to take shelter in a house (Top Malo) in the middle of a combat zone, without posting a guard, because it was “too cold”. When menedez realised that the “real landings” weren’t going to happen near Stanley and that the British land forces that disembarked in San Carlos was NOT a feint and the main assault had marched those distances over what the Argentinian strategic planners had calculated was impossible ground to move vast numbers of troops on foot, and he relied on the calibre of his men and the formidability of their defences in the mountains, then was shocked to find that they were being taken after only a few hours of combat. When you look at the picture of Moore and Menedez, meeting during the surrender and you compare one dirty,’unshaven disheveled tired general who shared the same rations, deprivations and dangers with his men against a clean, close shaven oiled haired immaculately dressed well rested amateur who slept in a bed in a heated house and hadn’t even visited his forwards positions once to speak with his troops, inspect his defences and encourage his officers. One staff officer witnessed the last conversation Mendez had with galtierri when the dictator was shouting and calling him and his men cowards telling Mendez to leave his positions and fight. Mendez’s reply was “But Snr Presdente, you don’t realise WHAT we’re fighting against here”. That’s when you realises why argentina lost. If you don’t believe me then why don’t you click innthe attached and read the citations from these military studies that are NOT British or Argentinian www.nids.mod.go.jp/english/event/forum/pdf/2013/10.pdf www.nids.mod.go.jp/english/publication/briefing/pdf/2018/briefing_e201811.pdf
@@likeitout Yeah and we have no proof that the US invaded the middle East for the oil but hey are you that naive? This is no conspirancy, THERE IS Oil around, you hadn't heard? And I skipped most of your nonsense, you can not compare a 3rd world country like Argentina to the super power UK at that time, even with the help of the other bully (US) that provided satellite images among other things. Annnddd how can you compare Viet nam to Argentina lol, The Malvinas weather and terrain is nothing like Viet nam. What I said is that they had (and still have) old material, like A4s used BY THE US (I never said viet nam used them) which by 1980 were already old.
@@misterasterisco5217 Yes I am proud of the people who fight for my country. Also I want to be in the RAF when I'm older so you can call me a bully but I'm really not
@@luciano2003. I was the silly Civvy that retired last year doing the war work that nobody ever saw, that’s the joke, nobody ever see’s the civvy arms guys that go everywhere. No uniform, no medals ....just a job, ha I just noticed my name. Very British I am I just love Spanish Trials bikes
If you get a chance, read his book 'Sea Harrier Over The Falklands' and you'll understand that Sharky is a very impressive pilot. It's a riveting read. He doesn't just come across as calm and collected, he is a true 'Top Gun'. He was the commanding officer of the first Sea Harrier squadron In ACM tests with the best the US could put together, he would beat F15, F14, F16 and F5 easily.
A lot of young people died 17 and 18 year olds, never got a chance to enjoy life. Well I hope there’s a heaven and I hope that’s where they are. Bless the families that sent there sons
joint the RN in 1978 when i was sixteen . was on board Hermes at 19 as an aircraft mechanic in the falklands . did twelve years service . great days , great memories . made a man of me , regretted nothing except two mates i lost on the Sheffield .
98% of Islanders want to stay British & their wishes must come 1st. If you say nearly 200 yrs ago a couple of dozen Argentines who'd been there a few years were ejected. 350 years ago Spanish troops were throwing 100s of thousands of South American Indians off their land and they'd been there 10,000 yrs, so if Argentina makes the ridiculous argument that Islanders should move to Britain as Argentines were there 1st, by that rationale all Latin people would have to leave South America for Spain.
in the merchant navy we went no matter what. did what we were asked,and a finer bunch of lads you could find nowhere, we were proud to do our bit. i never heard the lads ever saying how long will it take.
I was in the Falklands in 82 and once again in 1984. On the second trip I met many Islanders 99% if not all of whom are of BRITISH (not Argentinian) descent. As a democracy it is there basic human rights to decide on thier future, and the way of life. My words to the Argntinian Government ..........................SOD OFF
of course they are british descent! remember the brits invaded the islands in 1833 and kicked the Argentines living RIGHTFULLY there. Those islands belong to GB now only because they are the bully with the bigger gun, not because they got to the islands before. Americans and Europeans stand with GB but here in latinamerica ask anyone and all will tell you the islands belong to Argentina.
@@misterasterisco5217 alto pete el inglés más vale que iban a ser ingleses los habitantes estando en la isla por más de un siglo, por algo las invadimos
@@misterasterisco5217 ah yes those islands that where first landed on by an English explorer then had a port established by the french in 1766 who gave up their claim to Spain, who long with Britain both had colony’s that CO EXISTED for a time on the islands until Spain withdrew LONG BEFORE Argentina ever existed, in other words the Brits are the correct current administration’s of the islands until the islanders choose otherwise, As an American I can say that everyone I know agree the Brits control the islands, so no America actually stands along side The Brits, the only bully here is Argentina that went to far then cried foul when it got pushed back, they need to move on and stop being childish but clearly that will never happen.
Dunno what anyone else thinks.. but that british pilot 'sharkey' gave me the chills. Calm, composed, intelligent and coming to kick ass. No fear, no ego, just conviction of purpose. No romanticism, just getting the job done, respect.
The confidence that you get knowing you have elite forces and are ready to fight USRR but are suddenly sent to fight against Argentina and their viet nam era planes, he knew it would be easy.
I was 7 when this all went off and my dad was RN Commando squadron AEM on the Sea King. I will never forget the 21st of July when Hermes came into Portsmouth with my old man wearing a Navy Beret and Marine fatigues. An emotional day. My dad brought some good loot back - Argie US issued Infra Green goggles, bayonets, compasses. Argie clothes. My brothers and I used to play murder in the dark with the goggles, they weighed a ton lol
+steve johnson Thanks for sharing and editing this rare footage. I'm a U.S. Navy Veteran of (2) West Pacs (4 years) and watching this underway footage brings back fond memories of the GORGEOUS Pacific in the early 1980's....Beautiful
Thanks for posting this, the parts about Port Stanley under occupation, HMS Endurance at South Georgia and the preparations of the ill fated Atlantic Conveyor were particularly interesting and don't seem to feature in other Documentaries.
Wow I've not seen a lot of this footage. Awesome. I remember being irritated at Reagan's "little ice cold bunch of land down there" remark. Jeanne Kirkpatrick was influencing him with her Anti-British views. I didn't know a single person who was against Britain. My mother was British the QE2 left from her hometown I wanted USA to do whatever it took to help UK win.
+Californian You also had Haig saying in private (according to recently released information ) Self determination does not apply to a couple of thousand sheep shaggers. He was more worried pissing off the tin pot Junta in Argentina who shared the US views on communism in South America, rather than supporting the US closest ally defend the islander´s democratic rights.
+paul weston well, I didn't know that about Haig; I knew he was flying back & forth, trying to be the new Henry Kissinger in shuttle diplomacy, but not that he was ready to sell out the Islanders for his own glory. He found out pretty quickly that neither side was going to back down, especially the British. Every member of his delegation that I saw being interviewed on programs about that time mentioned specifically about realizing very fast that the British meant business, and were not hiding their suspicion of the Americans, like was it going to be another Suez? No backup from the US? But our defense secretary was behind Britain all the way & made sure certain things useful to the British got to them.
+Californian Yes Kasper Weinberger and the CIA deputy chief Bobby Inman favoured supporting the British. I just looked up the source again; Minutes from a NSC meeting, 30th April 1982 which were released from the Reagan Library in 2012. I expect Mrs Thatcher was not amused and gave Ronnie and Douglas a good scolding. lol
Many country's in the America's have an Inter-American treaty wich says An attack on one American country is an attack against them all ,so this was the reason the U.S dint want to fight another ally
I joined the Royal Navy two years after this. The poor sailors in this war were wearing non fire retardant number 8 clothing, in addition swimming was not a mandatory skill. The clothes melted to their skin during the fire and heat. Many drowned due no swimming training. R.I.P to all who died.
The training: 4 lengths of a swimming pool wearing overalls end to end. No stopping. No gripping. Tread water for four minutes in overalls. Then convert overalls into floations. Fill with air and continue floatation for four more minutes. All timed. Touch, don't complete in time, or give up, you failed the course. HMS Ralleigh. 6 Week training course, basic, 1980. Which navy were you in? Not what I remember.
Remarkable ! I remember my dad talking about following the news coverage prior to combat, But I've found it often overlooked. It's interesting to see what the atmosphere was like prior to open hostilities. I'm also interested in Invincible- I remember visiting her and "Aardvark SQN" prior to her decommissioning. An excellent glimpse at some not-too distant history. Thanks for the upload !!
why not??????? who ever defeated england in a war?????????The only country who ruled the world with such a small military and population.Have you ever seen any other super power of this size?????????They ruled most of the world including usa,canada,india and many other big and powerful nations.........Which other nation ever ruled USA????????????? UK can be proud of its military and the strong nation behind this military power....They didn,t even need to bring an army to conquar and rule India for 150 years..........Amazing my friend..you may be biased but accept the really......There is no other nation on this planet like the ENGLISH.......Im not english by the way to tell you this.......Be realistic
Being realistic, they have been defeated in war and the nations they held were far less powerful or not nations at all. Hell, USA didn't exist under Britain. Britain is one of the main colonizers of North America. As soon as any nation began growing more powerful, Britain basically lost control or began allowing more autonomy to maintain control in writing but not in reality. As for other nations of approximate size to the U.K. with large empires, the French had large scale colonization efforts, but to a lesser scale as the French did not focus as much on Navy. Germany took most of Europe, though held it for far less time.
@@hameedurrehman7625 Ahh America with French assistance defeated the British empire, Ireland defeated them and the British sued for peace talks which resulted in the Republic of Ireland. So yes they were defeated, but when you look at their military history they have had more ups than downs.
Eye In The Sky Ireland did not beat the British empire after WW1 Ireland was given home rule like Canada and South Africa but it later left the commonwealth if Britain had of lost a war to Ireland it wouldn’t still own Northern Ireland.
+Michael Collins they didnt have the internet those days and their tv was competely controlled by the military. They werent allowed to know they lost the war. And in schools as kids they were taught a very biased history making the falklands a big deal. You cant blame them for being biased or misinformed.
thanks for posting Imissed the newcoverage but I had a good Excuse I was in the task force we where always confident what the outcome was going to be and despite the situation we alway maintained jolly jack tars sense of humour
Ha, You claim them from Spain!, John Strong discovered & named them in 1690, John Byron started a settlement in 1764, Argentinean Independence 1810, Never were Argentinean & never will be!
you could not be more haul and stupidly obvuis,you are just three crazy brirds Jack the ripers pitaes out there in the world!!! th eIland ISLAS MAVINAS ARE Argentain, FROM Argentina, since the year 1540, you IGNORANT
nerdy, GIVE back what does not belongs to you!!, you won just because EEUU use their RADARS to sink the Belgrano ship, and chile gave you FUEL. like you won against France paying the French Crown to give you JOAN OF ARC !!!! like EEUU sabe you from GERMANY, alwais a crap!!
GIVE back what does not belongs to you!!, you won just because EEUU use their RADARS to sink the Belgrano ship, and chile gave you FUEL. like you won against France paying the French Crown to give you JOAN OF ARC !!!! like EEUU sabe you from GERMANY, alwais a crap!!
In what way did the USA protect the British.There was no American troops that fought in the Falklands, no american pilots or naval personnel. I don't understand . Could you explain.
Cat Wrangler Estás equivocado Los militares argentinos si sabían como usar las bombas Mark . Lo que ocurrió fue que la Fuerza Aérea Argentina estaba preparada para acciones contra objetivos terrestres, por eso las espoletas no estallaban al impacto La Aviación Naval argentina si lo sabía y por eso causó tanto daño a los invasores británicos Argentina no pensaba pelear realmente Saludos desde Lanús
@@rampancyproductions , the British bought the sidewinder missiles BEFORE Argentina even invaded the Falklands. All you Americans did was speed up there delivery.
I arrived a little Later, Bristol Group ended up working for Derek Reffell Task Force Commander after Woodward went home. Rod Fearnly did you enjoy your sinking? ;)
I am an American, and I love and the UK as much as my own country. With that said, I must respectfully disagree. I don't if we knew beforehand of the invasion, but we did supply Britain with weapons. If we did know the Argentinian invasion plans, you're right- we should have informed our friends. But never forget we did help you during the conflict. Tensions are rising again in the South Atlantic, and I can only hope that our current administration still takes Great Britain's side.
The last three before the Scrap heap.....and the one got there and did the job good. Never ever let that war girl retire. I saw her 3 years ago and she is everything British, a mad howl and a look that is so pretty just before she fucks you up...She is Vulcan the real Warbird
Can someone tell me if this is part of a series of videos and if so, what order? I see a number of vids tagged "FALKLANDS CONFLICT" but they're not in any discernible order. Thanks! (Worse comes to worse, I can figure it out, its just annoying trying to put it together in a playlist when suddenly an earlier video pops up)
Ooooh, look! Harriers!! Brilliant British aircraft!! Oh. Dr. Liam Fox thought we could do without them. Oh. S'pose he's right. Silly me: let the Yanks have 'em for spares.
that was also david camerons first decisions to axe the harriers along with the pilots some who were just about to graduate; sold them all to the US who still use them ,we have carriers that are only just getting the new planes but all the experience was lost but never mind the US sold us training programs .
They were brilliant, and were defnitely a key part of helping us win the Falklands War.... But Breaking News, its not 1982 anymore, and we can't keep the same planes running for that long in such a changing technological world.The Spitfire was not much older in 1982 as the Harriers are today, and I can guarantee you that if we had tried to fight the argies with them, we would've lost, no matter the experience of our pilots.
@Brian Coley No. 1(F) squadron flew fourteen harriers from HMS _Hermes._ 44, 50, and 101 squadrons flew Vulcan bombers from Ascension. 39 squadron flew Canberras from Chile for 'clandestine operations'. 120 and 201 squadrons flew Nimrods from Ascension for maritime surveillance. This was an all-forces war, and the RAF absolutely did their bit. Edited note: This isn't the entirety of the RAF contribution; just a select few to show the range of the operations they conducted.
Despite arguments and insults the fact is, and will remain to be so, that the Falklands are a Biritsh dependancy and will remain so for as long as Argentina asserts its claims on the islands and sabre rattles. Live with it.
SuperBritabroad Sheffield, Ardent, Coventry, Sir Gallahad and the others ships crew don’t think like you. They are sleeping with SpongeBob Saludos desde Lanús
@@loyalist5736 It’s shameful that a third world war power of that time had 40% of her fleet sunk or damaged to a greater or lesser extent by a country without combat experience. Also, without the support of the usa and nato, another would have been the result Saludos a la reina
@@ezequieltedesco1373 Third world shithole you mean , Argentina had plenty help remember that and also remember Britain was fighting 8000miles from home and couldn't use its airforce to defend them ships ..it was not because the Argentine airforce was good its because Britain was projecting power so far away if they had been fighting the same distance away as Argentina they would of crushed you idiots lol
@@loyalist5736 It’s very funny for me to see how resentful and ignorant you are. It’s better for you that you don’t talk about our pilots, don't embarrass yourself anymore You were very, very lucky that at that time it was Argentina and not the Soviet Army. Or not
Yeah US provided UK with a few Stinger missiles, the Sidewinder (this was the killer weapon in the air along with the Harrier system), aviation fuel and even offered us a carrier but keep in mind that not a single Argentine weapon was Argentinian my friend :) In fact, allot of their kit such as the bombs and destroyers were British with their jets all being American/French. So too their missiles/ships etc etc. People often overook this. Both UK & USA knew about the invasion plans moths before
+mucker gee It's Toulouse, actually, love. Two u's in there, not just the one. And pretty good at the moment, roughly 16°, bit of wind, bit overcast but some spots of sunshine. You fancy popping round for a coffee? I've just stocked up on some today. Can have it on the balcony if that suits you. Let me know when you can. Hugs and kisses xxx
@madjaime2007 you are right in something, but the most of the pro were in the frontier with chile. Chile threatened was the key for the surrender. The generals is a cuestion apart, they were in conflict when galtieri said to menendez he would be punished under the war code if he surrender, this one choose to betray him. In the end menedes save his life from galtieri. Read more and you will se that menendes never order the counter attack or put the troops on the shores.
Muchas gracias por tan notable video, años que buscaba algo asi y lo agradezco en español porque soy Chileno y en algo ayudamos tambien a su victoria que sentimos como nuestra.
CLANDESTINE HELP Secret for 30 years, the files reveal Thatcher’s political maneuvering during other events in 1982, including the Iran-Iraq war, the imposition of military rule in Poland and the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. They also show that British attitudes to its U.S. ally were less deferential than the prime minister’s letters to Reagan suggest. In a transcript of a telephone conversation between Thatcher and her foreign minister, the prime minister criticized Reagan’s communication style, describing a message from the president as “so vague I didn’t think it was worth reading when it came in at half-eleven last night”. In another file, she noted “the US just does not realize the resentment she is causing in the Middle East”, while a Foreign Office briefing on Reagan described the actor-turned-politician as “knowing much less than he seems to”. However, one document showed how deeply indebted British officials felt to the United States for its “clandestine help” during the Falklands war; help that the United States was anxious be kept secret. A car is driven along Ross Road during snowfall in Stanley, Falkland Islands June 15, 2012. REUTERS/Enrique Marcarian “The US have made it clear that they do not wish to reveal publicly the extent of the help with which they are providing us. They are very much worried about the effects on their relations with South America. We must accept this as a fact of life,” a Ministry of Defense letter said. The United States assisted Britain with intelligence and communications facilities as well as with military equipment such as munitions, the document said, confirming information already in the public domain. Emblazoned with the words SECRET and CONFIDENTIAL, many of the 6,000 declassified files will prove a treasure trove for history students keen on ferreting out hitherto unknown details of the major political events of 1982, said records specialist Demissie. “Everything comes out in the end,” he said. Reporting By Alessandra Prentice; Editing by Andrew Osborn Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles. www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-usa-falklands/secret-uk-files-lift-lid-on-thatcher-reagan-falklands-contacts-idUSBRE8BR00620121228
The UN is willing to accept independence OR integration with a neighbouring country OR integration with the colonial metropolitan country OR free association with another country, as reasonable outcomes from decolonisation. In each case, THIS HAS BEEN DONE WITH THE EXPLICIT APPROVAL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE TERRITORY, through election or plebiscite. The only exception, since the establishment of the Special Committee on Decolonisation, has been Hong Kong. Geography has no bearing.
The Argentins never stood a chance just like their bankrupt dictatorship. They wer e not prepered, lacked anti-ship and anti-air capability on the island, their aircraft lacked the range and endurance to support the islands. The war proved how importans is the inteligence, satellite reconnaissance and air power. Also revealed that UK despite victorious is no more a military power it once have been.
Wow. What an amazing coincidence!!! I lived for many years in East London in South Africa, I as well as many UK citizens got on very well with the Afrikaaner. And I speak a little Afrikaans. They would be the last people to say that the crime of the concentration camps conducted by the "Khaki's" and Kitchiner was a deliberate act of "Genocide"'. History is very complicated. I refer to Junta's and dictators because from their mouths come lies that some today still choose to believe .
But answer me this. What legitimate historical right does Argentina have to be able to lay claim to the South Sandwhich Islands and South Georgia? Please explain? Is this not agressive territorial expansion? Naked imperialism? The exact thing that Argentinians accuse the British of being? "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones!!!"
@Eddieposted - You remember, once we discussed the issue of the age of Br. and Ar. soldiers and I quoted the data that the average age of the British was about 22, while in case of Argentinians it was 19. On the other hand there were 16 years old British soldiers, while the youngest Argentinians could have been 18 (born in 1963). Also anonther thing is the average age and the other is the number of soldiers of certain age. Anyway, most sources say the average age of the Br. soldiers was higher.
I was in Europe when this happened. Everytime we saw a British soldier they would buy us a beer, and ask if we thought the US was going to help them fight Argentina. We'd ask them why they needed help, and of course tell them we hadn't heard of any plans for the US to help them. Stationed in W Germany, if the US did help it wouldnt be us. We had our mission no matter what happened anywhere else. It just stuck out in my mind, because usually stand offish they were suddenly very friendly and talkative. When the fighting did start we were surprised to hear they were having a hard time. Especially the Royal Navy. The French Exocet missile was very effective against their ships.
...there is no explicit reference to operative paragraph 6 of Resolution 1514 (see above) nor to maintaining “territorial integrity” of a divided country. The strongest point made by the Argentine government is that reference to the “interests of the population” implies “leaving aside the principle of self-determination” (see A/66/696,p.7), but in the light of diplomatic practices of constructive ambiguity this is insufficient to be regarded as endorsement of the Argentine claim to sovereignty.
Actually, not Hermes, they do claim they were able to bring Super Etendards near Invincible and attacked her, the British of course would never admit this. Argentine pilots have been published testimonial books about the attack.
Ok want numbers and names. 113 ships 28,000 men. Ships sunk, HMS Sheffield, HMS Coventry, HMS Ardent, HMS Antelope, RFA Sir Galahad Sir Tristram, Atlantic Conveyor, Foxtrot 4. Ships inactive (ok, not sunk but it's the same) HMS Onyx, HMS Alacrity, HMS Avenger, HMS Arrow, HMS Argonaut, HMS Antrim, HMS Glamorgan, HMS Glasgow. Ships almost inactive HMS Brilliant, HMS Broadsword, HMS Plymouth, HMS Ambuscade, Sir Lancelot.And Exeter,Fearless, Tidepool, Sir Bedivere,Yarmouth and Norland were damaged
Those Argentina soldiers must of been crapping their pants when they heard the British were on their way. They must of known in their own heads that they were about to get their asses kicked.
I know what Robacio said. With due respect, he and BIM 5 didn't remain on the field of battle to count the dead, but retreated to Stanley. A comander who had suffered the humiliation of a defeat and of seeing his troops repatriated to the fatherland as prisoners in a ship (Canberra) that the Junta said had been sunk will say alot. The UK has a free press without government control. Thousands of casualties are impossible to hide, not even from their relatives. Robacio makes excuses.
@Arminevh They HOPED to lose a few ships but no military Operational plan survives contact with the enermy.When they desided to make landfall in San Carlos they knew they would lose ships. Your missiles can't work as well as you can out at sea. They had to postion warships so the would be the first ship attacked & sunk.Not the landing ships or Troop carriers.So they changed tactics as and when nessary included lose's to complete their mission.
It was taken back in 1833 after Argentinian settlers turned up on land that The British AND French had settled on in the 1760's after Captain John Strong landed there in 1690. When we returned after having been forcibly required to leave due to lack of funds due to war with America, the Argentinians's tiny presence voluntarily left without issue. This is purely a oil based claim by Argentina. While we first landed there, Argentinian's were busy massacring Patagonian natives. Same old same old..
John Taylor - WHERE in the hell do you think all of those Sidewinder missiles used to shoot down ALL of those Argie planes came from - huh? HELLOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
@asasscd Yep would have cost the Argentine Navy,but then you have to fight and lose ships to win.When the Royal Navy landed at San Carlos it wasn't mined.Argentina beleved no one would take a fleet were their radars & Shipboard SAM systems would not work well.They would be very vulnerable to Air attack.A "Bomb Alley" so to speak. So thats were the Bristish went. They knew they would lose ships and a lot.That was the price of getting on shore. Fear of lose should not initiate inaction in war.
I SERVED ON HMS INTREPID , I WAS ABOVE THE BRIDGE AS LOOKOUT AND REPLACEMENT GUN CREW THINGS I SAW WILL STAY WITH ME FOREVER ,RIP TO THE BROTHERS THAT DID NOT MAKE IT BACK
stop lying
Respect to you.
I was visiting London when the victory parade was held in 1982. The determination to liberate the Falklands is something the British can be proud of! I’m from the Netherlands btw
Thank you my friend, it was a great feat of arms .
If you need any assistance with liberating the Netherlands from it ridiculous political correctness, just shout!
I was working in the City of London on the victory parade day and watched it passing through Moorgate.
Oil fields nearby and being an entrance to Antarctica is a great motivation as well I'm sure.
@@misterasterisco5217 “Oil fields” and “Antarctica”. Oh here we go. Let’s pretend that you’re right and the U.K. is only interested in oil! In which case, please can you give a believable explanation why the British decided let go of oil rich Nigeria, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman and other such places without a fight? By the way, there is a fife breve between these colonies and the Falklands. You may not have noticed the massively oil rich ex colonies were and still are, produce billions of barrels of oil per day. All that lovely oil and none are going to the British coffers. The Falklands produced and will produce.....wait for it.......I have the answer. One moment, it’s right here....are you ready??....NONE!!! When you look for your answer to try and substantiate your bullsh1t, will you please try to do so by citing some actual facts? Or will that be too difficult for you?
Are you also able to provide a viable believable explanation why the British chose only a company of Royal Marines, to defend such a valuable oil reserve commodity that they were later willing to spend millions and a huge task force to retake? Because not putting a huge garrison there before 1982 will make sense and give some substantiation to why the British foreign and commonwealth office were seeking to accommodate Argentina including discussing “lease back” options and were trying to persuade the Kelpers to accept Argentinian sovereignty in some form. Because you see Artersico, I can direct you to prime sources from both sides which is substantial evidence including documentary EVIDENCE which proves this.
So for you to substantiate your conspiracy theory and prove that the whole thing was about oil, please can you cite documentary evidence? When I say documentary evidence; I don’t mean a link to some conspiracy website where the unsubstantiated lie is merely repeated without the tiniest shred of proof but pretending it’s the truth. I mean primary source evidence from minutes or government communiques from 1982.
I doubt you will find any. So instead, I would like you to take off your tin foil hat and try using cognitive reasoning then drawing your conclusions. That means reasoning based on the evidence, instead of approaching the subject with your cynical already held suspicions and then you go looking for the flimsiest of evidence to try and somehow, substantiate this rubbish without looking at all the other evidence. It’s called the eureka syndrome. Only looking for what you want to see and finding something slightly resembling what you’re looking for, while completely ignoring the huge white elephant of proof sitting in the room which tells another story.
What a wonderful treat! I was 13 and used to listen to the BBC world service all during the Falklands war while living in Texas USA. Thank you very much!
I served throughout the war on the Flightdeck of HMS Invincible.
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@@andresamadogonzalezjimenez4435 ?
Rod
I think our Argentine friends was saying something like "duck"
@@gerrywatson261 . I had that feeling Gerry 😉. “There and back with JJ Black.”
The only Argentine aircraft that we in Invincible saw was, a Huey Helicopter that we captured and brought back onboard for a service, before handing it over to the Falklands Island Air Service.
Thank you for your service to British poeple.
Brits are the light in the darkness, THANK YOU for saving the Falklands Brits!!
Those brits did the same to the argentine population in 1800's, you empathize with squatters?
@@Frankszky1923 There was no Argentine back then. The United Provinces of Rio de la Plata instead. "The United Provinces attempted to control the islands through commerce, granting fishing and hunting rights to Jorge Pacheco in 1824. Pacheco's partner Luis Vernet established a toehold in the islands in 1826 and a fledgling colony in 1828. He also visited the British consulate in 1826, 1828 and 1829 seeking endorsement of his venture and a garrison. In 1829, he sought a naval vessel from the United Provinces to protect his colony but as none were available he was appointed Military and Civil Commander, prompting British protests.Attempts to regulate fishing and sealing led to conflict with the United States and the Lexington raid of 1831. With the colony in disarray, Major Esteban Mestivier was tasked to set up a penal colony but was murdered in a mutiny shortly after arriving in 1832. Protests at Mestivier's appointment received no response and so the British dispatched a naval squadron to re-establish British rule."
@@atisalvaro The United Provinces of Rio de la Plata still exists tho it's world-wide known as Argentina...
@@Frankszky1923 It is like saying your father are you, or saying England is UK
@@atisalvaro Uhh no, Argentina has never stopped being the United Provinces, it's our official country name lol. Argentina was adopted later as a secondary and is now the one you see in everything related to the country, but it's not a different State and the UP name is still there as official.
Want to know something? Argentines surrendered in their thousands to very few UK troops. Soldiers don't fight for a rag on a pole and a patriotic ideal but to stay alive, for their fellow soldiers and for the survival of their people. Argentinian soldiers in their memoirs said this cold place wasn't home. Thats what they fought for. A lump of rock and an old colonal dispute. But the UK troops ffought for the right of a people to live in THEIR country where they were born without fascist rule.
You really buy that bullshit? UK sent such a huge fleet for one BIG reasoned named OIL.
@@misterasterisco5217 Do you know that’s the truth or do you believe that’s the truth?
@@likeitout Are you naive or you just claim to be it online? Cmon dude, Argentina a formidable enemy in 1982?? with viet nam era AR4s? with just 5 excotes to fight a 100+ navy fleet prepared to war against the formidable USSR? Yeah? you guys in Europe do suck the media propaganda, but here in Latin America (I am from Chile) we know the islands belong to GB now just because they are the bully with the bigger gun, not by right.
@@misterasterisco5217 two things. You’ve provided NO proof whatsoever, that the British fought for oil. Why? HOW did you come to conclude that the fight was over oil? If you’ve looked at FACTS and EVIDENCE then cut snd paste it and show me here. If not then all you’ve achieved is to show the world that you’re another one of these mindless conspiracy theorists who believe the idle baseless Bullsh1t often repeated in conspiracy sites. Yes. And Elvis is still alive and a member of the Illuminati.
Funny how you mentioned “Vietnam era” hardware. Didn’t Vietnam defeat a superpower with bamboo, Kalashnikov’s tenacity and courage? The Vietnamese could only dream of the modern equipment in the arsenals of Argentina’s military who fought a regional power on their own doorstep. Vietnamese people can only laugh at the macho boasting from the keyboards of your neighbours, yet the Armada Republica Argentina, slinked back to the safety of their ports and hid away while the rest of the armed forces defended so called “Argentina”. Why?
Would you like some facts? The British had to try and project their war from halfway around the world. That meant the British were EXTREMELY restricted in what they could take and what they were able to do. They were the assaulting forces in situations that normal convention dictates the MINIMUM ratio of combat troops should be 3:1. But the British were throwing themselves into well established well placed formidable defensive positions with the limited amount of infantry that a task force could convey AND sustain. That meant . The U.K. could only put 6000 infantry combatants to face 11,000 garrison troops where even the potato peelers in the kitchens could pick up guns and fire back.
Talking about firing back. You think the british were better equipped? Why don’t you do something for the first time before responding. RESEARCH!!!!! Google the standard issue FAL rifle and then compare it to the British SLR. The same Belgian weapon? NO!! The U.K. had the semi auto version and faced Argentinians shooting at them with the FULL AUTOMATIC version which was MUCH better in defensive warfare and can put many more rounds down towards the enemy. Don’t listen to the excuses and conspiracies. Research the excellent US manufactured night vision goggles that the Argentinian military had compared to the poor quality heavier British versions which were limited issue. Take a look at the quality of israeli cold weather parkas and compare them to the cotton smocks worn by the U.K. forces. Seriously. Compare the British DMS boot with the United States manufactured fully waterproof high legs that every Argentinian soldier possessed. In fact, after goose green, some paratroopers were replacing their own boots with the ones taken from dead Argentinians and that’s a fact. Have you compared the few aircraft that the British were able to put into that theatre then look at the numbers and quality that the Argentinian airforce possessed? The British could only sustain a small number of multi role Harriers that were only just supersonic. Against a large fleet of hundreds of strike aircraft, many that were in the arsenals of France, the USA and Israel. The attrition alone could have destroyed British chances. When an Argentinian pilot would need only do one sortie and “tag team” to his comrades to keep oncoming one after the other, the 42 British pilots would have to do fifty sorties each to keep up air cover. They were exhausted. If half the aircraft from the carriers are shot down, the British couldn’t replace them and were left to fight with 20 against an airforce that still had hundreds of fighters and pilots only a few hundred miles away.
Have you ever read “No Picnic”? I mean the book, not the twisted lying Viveza Criolla Argentinian rebranding of the meaning. The book highlights these disadvantages. Julian Thompson told his commanders BEFORE THEY DISEMBARKED, that it wasn’t going to be a picnic. It has NOTHING to do with so called “Argentinian surprises”. The British expected to lose more. Much more. But the differences in military philosophy can be surmised by this. The U.K. infantry had to “yomp”’as the marines call it, 90 kilometres carrying 40 kilos on their backs over mountains and bogs, sleeping forms few hours in hastily dug fox holes in soaking cold water that froze to their bodies and feet in conditions that drove Argentinian special forces to take shelter in a house (Top Malo) in the middle of a combat zone, without posting a guard, because it was “too cold”. When menedez realised that the “real landings” weren’t going to happen near Stanley and that the British land forces that disembarked in San Carlos was NOT a feint and the main assault had marched those distances over what the Argentinian strategic planners had calculated was impossible ground to move vast numbers of troops on foot, and he relied on the calibre of his men and the formidability of their defences in the mountains, then was shocked to find that they were being taken after only a few hours of combat. When you look at the picture of Moore and Menedez, meeting during the surrender and you compare one dirty,’unshaven disheveled tired general who shared the same rations, deprivations and dangers with his men against a clean, close shaven oiled haired immaculately dressed well rested amateur who slept in a bed in a heated house and hadn’t even visited his forwards positions once to speak with his troops, inspect his defences and encourage his officers.
One staff officer witnessed the last conversation Mendez had with galtierri when the dictator was shouting and calling him and his men cowards telling Mendez to leave his positions and fight. Mendez’s reply was “But Snr Presdente, you don’t realise WHAT we’re fighting against here”. That’s when you realises why argentina lost.
If you don’t believe me then why don’t you click innthe attached and read the citations from these military studies that are NOT British or Argentinian
www.nids.mod.go.jp/english/event/forum/pdf/2013/10.pdf
www.nids.mod.go.jp/english/publication/briefing/pdf/2018/briefing_e201811.pdf
@@likeitout Yeah and we have no proof that the US invaded the middle East for the oil but hey are you that naive? This is no conspirancy, THERE IS Oil around, you hadn't heard? And I skipped most of your nonsense, you can not compare a 3rd world country like Argentina to the super power UK at that time, even with the help of the other bully (US) that provided satellite images among other things. Annnddd how can you compare Viet nam to Argentina lol, The Malvinas weather and terrain is nothing like Viet nam. What I said is that they had (and still have) old material, like A4s used BY THE US (I never said viet nam used them) which by 1980 were already old.
V proud of the royal navy, army and air force. very honoured.
very prud of bullies
@@misterasterisco5217 Yes I am proud of the people who fight for my country. Also I want to be in the RAF when I'm older so you can call me a bully but I'm really not
@@misterasterisco5217 The bully is the one who starts the fight. Idiot
Great video, I was in HMS Plymouth.
henryvagincourt
You are lucky , Sheffield, Ardent, Coventry, Sir Gallahad and the others ships weren’t
Saludos desde Lanús
You were very lucky that those bombs did not explode, otherwise you would not have made that comment.
@@luciano2003. I was the silly Civvy that retired last year doing the war work that nobody ever saw, that’s the joke, nobody ever see’s the civvy arms guys that go everywhere. No uniform, no medals ....just a job, ha I just noticed my name. Very British I am I just love Spanish Trials bikes
I was on HMS Glamorgan. We sailed home together.
@@ezequieltedesco1373 fuck your conscripts
If you get a chance, read his book 'Sea Harrier Over The Falklands' and you'll understand that Sharky is a very impressive pilot. It's a riveting read.
He doesn't just come across as calm and collected, he is a true 'Top Gun'. He was the commanding officer of the first Sea Harrier squadron In ACM tests with the best the US could put together, he would beat F15, F14, F16 and F5 easily.
imagine the BBC doing this reporting now! lol
I suspect the BBC's reporting on this would strike a somewhat different tone today.
and it would be called diversity
Probably focusing on the gender pay gap on the Battlefield
Would it? No doubt years of experience in the media? Perhaps a little time in uniform? I've done both. You have no idea what you're talking about.
It would be traitorous coverage..
You reckon? You are a moron and a bigot, Sir. Education frighten you? You have no idea. Just a shot in the dark - Brexit boy?
Served on HMS Cardiff in 82 and both Broadsword and Brilliant later in my RN Career.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE LADS AND LASSES,
REST IN PEACE TO ALL WHO NEVER MADE IT HOME,
😷🌍✌💖😷
Very brave men.
A lot of young people died 17 and 18 year olds, never got a chance to enjoy life. Well I hope there’s a heaven and I hope that’s where they are. Bless the families that sent there sons
Lasses? It’s men in the forces
joint the RN in 1978 when i was sixteen . was on board Hermes at 19 as an aircraft mechanic in the falklands . did twelve years service . great days , great memories . made a man of me , regretted nothing except two mates i lost on the Sheffield .
Remember the day they die in the Sheffield?
@@alexm7743 Yes . Of course I do .
@@ianbower827 What day?
@@alexm7743 41 years ago today
Lots and lots of footage I've never seen before. Thanks for uploading.
98% of Islanders want to stay British & their wishes must come 1st. If you say nearly 200 yrs ago a couple of dozen Argentines who'd been there a few years were ejected. 350 years ago Spanish troops were throwing 100s of thousands of South American Indians off their land and they'd been there 10,000 yrs, so if Argentina makes the ridiculous argument that Islanders should move to Britain as Argentines were there 1st, by that rationale all Latin people would have to leave South America for Spain.
Well, Spain, Portugal and Italy.
Las islas malvinas estan en la plataforma marina argentina pirata!
@@pablocoria4360 yeah, twat
@@georgesteven9644 What happened to the Aztecs?
The Islands were British (1833)before Argentina(1856) even existed...
in the merchant navy we went no matter what. did what we were asked,and a finer bunch of lads you could find nowhere, we were proud to do our bit. i never heard the lads ever saying how long will it take.
I was in the Falklands in 82 and once again in 1984. On the second trip I met many Islanders 99% if not all of whom are of BRITISH (not Argentinian) descent. As a democracy it is there basic human rights to decide on thier future, and the way of life.
My words to the Argntinian Government ..........................SOD OFF
Andy Morrison
Better to tell them to fuck off.
of course they are british descent! remember the brits invaded the islands in 1833 and kicked the Argentines living RIGHTFULLY there. Those islands belong to GB now only because they are the bully with the bigger gun, not because they got to the islands before. Americans and Europeans stand with GB but here in latinamerica ask anyone and all will tell you the islands belong to Argentina.
@@misterasterisco5217 alto pete el inglés más vale que iban a ser ingleses los habitantes estando en la isla por más de un siglo, por algo las invadimos
@@misterasterisco5217 ah yes those islands that where first landed on by an English explorer then had a port established by the french in 1766 who gave up their claim to Spain, who long with Britain both had colony’s that CO EXISTED for a time on the islands until Spain withdrew LONG BEFORE Argentina ever existed, in other words the Brits are the correct current administration’s of the islands until the islanders choose otherwise, As an American I can say that everyone I know agree the Brits control the islands, so no America actually stands along side The Brits, the only bully here is Argentina that went to far then cried foul when it got pushed back, they need to move on and stop being childish but clearly that will never happen.
Great video. Thanks for posting and sharing.
Very rare to see original news reports from the Falkands. Thanks very much for posting this.
Dunno what anyone else thinks.. but that british pilot 'sharkey' gave me the chills. Calm, composed, intelligent and coming to kick ass. No fear, no ego, just conviction of purpose. No romanticism, just getting the job done, respect.
The confidence that you get knowing you have elite forces and are ready to fight USRR but are suddenly sent to fight against Argentina and their viet nam era planes, he knew it would be easy.
I was 7 when this all went off and my dad was RN Commando squadron AEM on the Sea King. I will never forget the 21st of July when Hermes came into Portsmouth with my old man wearing a Navy Beret and Marine fatigues. An emotional day.
My dad brought some good loot back - Argie US issued Infra Green goggles, bayonets, compasses. Argie clothes.
My brothers and I used to play murder in the dark with the goggles, they weighed a ton lol
I still have my 9 great grandfather's captured British sword
+steve johnson Thanks for sharing and editing this rare footage. I'm a U.S. Navy Veteran of (2) West Pacs (4 years) and watching this underway footage brings back fond memories of the GORGEOUS Pacific in the early 1980's....Beautiful
Erik Malkavian Pacific ?
That was really interesting. Thanks for uploading.
Thanks for posting this, the parts about Port Stanley under occupation, HMS Endurance at South Georgia and the preparations of the ill fated Atlantic Conveyor were particularly interesting and don't seem to feature in other Documentaries.
There is a very good video on You Tube about the logistics for the Falklands from a US Navy Logistics man, it is worth watching.
Wow I've not seen a lot of this footage. Awesome.
I remember being irritated at Reagan's "little ice cold bunch of land down there" remark. Jeanne Kirkpatrick was influencing him with her Anti-British views. I didn't know a single person who was against Britain. My mother was British the QE2 left from her hometown I wanted USA to do whatever it took to help UK win.
+Californian You also had Haig saying in private (according to recently released information ) Self determination does not apply to a couple of thousand sheep shaggers. He was more worried pissing off the tin pot Junta in Argentina who shared the US views on communism in South America, rather than supporting the US closest ally defend the islander´s democratic rights.
+paul weston well, I didn't know that about Haig; I knew he was flying back & forth, trying to be the new Henry Kissinger in shuttle diplomacy, but not that he was ready to sell out the Islanders for his own glory.
He found out pretty quickly that neither side was going to back down, especially the British. Every member of his delegation that I saw being interviewed on programs about that time mentioned specifically about realizing very fast that the British meant business, and were not hiding their suspicion of the Americans, like was it going to be another Suez? No backup from the US?
But our defense secretary was behind Britain all the way & made sure certain things useful to the British got to them.
+Californian Yes Kasper Weinberger and the CIA deputy chief Bobby Inman favoured supporting the British. I just looked up the source again; Minutes from a NSC meeting, 30th April 1982 which were released from the Reagan Library in 2012.
I expect Mrs Thatcher was not amused and gave Ronnie and Douglas a good scolding. lol
Many country's in the America's have an Inter-American treaty wich says An attack on one American country is an attack against them all ,so this was the reason the U.S dint want to fight another ally
Meanwhile US provided satellite intelligence to the UK...
I joined the Royal Navy two years after this. The poor sailors in this war were wearing non fire retardant number 8 clothing, in addition swimming was not a mandatory skill. The clothes melted to their skin during the fire and heat. Many drowned due no swimming training. R.I.P to all who died.
Typical. Saving money costs lives.
Those trousers - cheap, thin, shiny and potentially lethal in a flash fire. The shirts weren't much better.
The training: 4 lengths of a swimming pool wearing overalls end to end. No stopping. No gripping. Tread water for four minutes in overalls. Then convert overalls into floations. Fill with air and continue floatation for four more minutes. All timed. Touch, don't complete in time, or give up, you failed the course. HMS Ralleigh. 6 Week training course, basic, 1980. Which navy were you in? Not what I remember.
A wonder the Royal Navy was able to pull it off....
Yep! Same old story - cannon fodder!
I've driven a Transit van at the same speed as 4 Harrier jump jets that were below me in the Scottish Highlands.
Back in the days when the BBC actually reported, rather than push their opinion onto others.
Bbc =enemy
@@brettfisher3912 = idiot.
Make the BBC great again (and replace the present batch of poor hate filled Marxists).
@@gilliangaines9192 you think Nick Robinson and Laura Keunnsberg are Marxists? You’re an idiot.
They actually reported too much, the argies watched BBC for British troop updates
Remarkable ! I remember my dad talking about following the news coverage prior to combat, But I've found it often overlooked. It's interesting to see what the atmosphere was like prior to open hostilities. I'm also interested in Invincible- I remember visiting her and "Aardvark SQN" prior to her decommissioning. An excellent glimpse at some not-too distant history. Thanks for the upload !!
Captain Barker HMS Endurance RIP it was a pleasure working for you during my time in Endurance .
Thank you very much for posting this - a real history lesson.
Hats off to BRAVE and never defeated BRITISH ARMY . LONG LIVE UK
Hameed Urrehman Ummmm... I mean, yeah, hats off and Britain earned her victory here but undefeated?
why not??????? who ever defeated england in a war?????????The only country who ruled the world with such a small military and population.Have you ever seen any other super power of this size?????????They ruled most of the world including usa,canada,india and many other big and powerful nations.........Which other nation ever ruled USA????????????? UK can be proud of its military and the strong nation behind this military power....They didn,t even need to bring an army to conquar and rule India for 150 years..........Amazing my friend..you may be biased but accept the really......There is no other nation on this planet like the ENGLISH.......Im not english by the way to tell you this.......Be realistic
Being realistic, they have been defeated in war and the nations they held were far less powerful or not nations at all.
Hell, USA didn't exist under Britain. Britain is one of the main colonizers of North America. As soon as any nation began growing more powerful, Britain basically lost control or began allowing more autonomy to maintain control in writing but not in reality.
As for other nations of approximate size to the U.K. with large empires, the French had large scale colonization efforts, but to a lesser scale as the French did not focus as much on Navy.
Germany took most of Europe, though held it for far less time.
@@hameedurrehman7625 Ahh America with French assistance defeated the British empire, Ireland defeated them and the British sued for peace talks which resulted in the Republic of Ireland. So yes they were defeated, but when you look at their military history they have had more ups than downs.
Eye In The Sky Ireland did not beat the British empire after WW1 Ireland was given home rule like Canada and South Africa but it later left the commonwealth if Britain had of lost a war to Ireland it wouldn’t still own Northern Ireland.
Argies screwed this up badly. British military did what it was supposed to do, fight for those who can't.
yeah they were the bullies, dont celebrate too much as this was a pic nic as one your commanders delcared to the propagandistic press,,,,
But it was a close call
RIP Sandy
Haig should have said to the Argentine military junta ´´You have invaded a sovereign land , pack up and leave ........now´´.
So many butthurt argies. We won the war! Get over it! It was 30 years ago!
+Michael Collins they didnt have the internet those days and their tv was competely controlled by the military. They werent allowed to know they lost the war. And in schools as kids they were taught a very biased history making the falklands a big deal. You cant blame them for being biased or misinformed.
Butthurt? Cheers from HMS Sheffield, HMS Antelope, HMS Coventry and some more!
Michael Collins Yeah, but they sure did put a hurtin on your precious fleet
such "a hurtin" that they started waving a white flag in surrender? ok, good stuff
Malvinas belongs to Argentina.
thanks for posting Imissed the newcoverage but I had a good Excuse I was in the task force we where always confident what the outcome was going to be and despite the situation we alway maintained jolly jack tars sense of humour
Interesting that they gave the precise location of the naval task force on the news, though perhaps it was quite intentional.
Might not have been an accurate location. We falsely leaked to the media our first attack was going to be Stanley. It was all about deception.
@@Zeyr01 True, very possible
Also they say the Vulcans are possibly not going to be used and they were actually the first to bomb the airstrip in the islands :)
Think it was a couple days behind. ..
Good post, thanks
Ha, You claim them from Spain!,
John Strong discovered & named them in 1690,
John Byron started a settlement in 1764,
Argentinean Independence 1810,
Never were Argentinean & never will be!
Watching this video in mute mode...with The Great Escape playing from another video. Makes for a great combination:)
Thanks for posting this , I was a liitle kid watching in our black and white Tv the news. I wish one day to visit Falklands
!!!!!
Rule Britannia!
PAX Britania!
you could not be more haul and stupidly obvuis,you are just three crazy brirds Jack the ripers pitaes out there in the world!!! th eIland ISLAS MAVINAS ARE Argentain, FROM Argentina, since the year 1540, you IGNORANT
+ gayle is it because the brits have better bang bangs ?
nerdy, GIVE back what does not belongs to you!!, you won just because EEUU use their RADARS to sink the Belgrano ship, and chile gave you FUEL. like you won against France paying the French Crown to give you JOAN OF ARC !!!! like EEUU sabe you from GERMANY, alwais a crap!!
GIVE back what does not belongs to you!!, you won just because EEUU use their RADARS to sink the Belgrano ship, and chile gave you FUEL. like you won against France paying the French Crown to give you JOAN OF ARC !!!! like EEUU sabe you from GERMANY, alwais a crap!!
I watch the Atlantic Conveyer leave Plymouth at age 9 with my gran and grandad - 32:34 - wow was t expecting to see that......
snudilicious
You must learn to swimm now . This ship is sleeping with SpongeBob
Saludos desde Lanús
In what way did the USA protect the British.There was no American troops that fought in the Falklands, no american pilots or naval personnel. I don't understand . Could you explain.
The AIM-9L the Harriers used was US, The SR-71 overflight data, we offered the USS Iwo Jima should one of the UK's carriers was taken out.
Cat Wrangler
Estás equivocado
Los militares argentinos si sabían como usar las bombas Mark . Lo que ocurrió fue que la Fuerza Aérea Argentina estaba preparada para acciones contra objetivos terrestres, por eso las espoletas no estallaban al impacto
La Aviación Naval argentina si lo sabía y por eso causó tanto daño a los invasores británicos
Argentina no pensaba pelear realmente
Saludos desde Lanús
@@rampancyproductions , the British bought the sidewinder missiles BEFORE Argentina even invaded the Falklands. All you Americans did was speed up there delivery.
@@williammorley2401 Which is kinda a big deal if you understand how procurement works.
Thanks, will try to procure the book ASAP. Thanks for your insight and reference. Look forward to finding out more about his work!
Someone should have remembered Galtieri to study the Falklands Naval Battle of December 1914.
I arrived a little Later, Bristol Group ended up working for Derek Reffell Task Force Commander after Woodward went home. Rod Fearnly did you enjoy your sinking? ;)
20:10 Broadsword calling dannyboy! Broadsword calling dannyboy?
This is cowslip control send your message!
On the way Darlin! See you in a bit!
I'm from Argentina we were the Bad guys. What a stupid war
You military Junta and their leadership were the bad guys.
The average Argentine in the street or conscripted into the armed forces were not bad guys, it was Galtieri and the rest that were the bad guys.
@@chiselcheswick5673and British a bunch of thief
I still have 4 camera films not developed from the task force going, taken on the way and arrival . Royal Marines
Friends lost you don't want to see again? Don't let the film entropy any longer it may already be erased.
I am an American, and I love and the UK as much as my own country. With that said, I must respectfully disagree. I don't if we knew beforehand of the invasion, but we did supply Britain with weapons. If we did know the Argentinian invasion plans, you're right- we should have informed our friends. But never forget we did help you during the conflict. Tensions are rising again in the South Atlantic, and I can only hope that our current administration still takes Great Britain's side.
The last three before the Scrap heap.....and the one got there and did the job good. Never ever let that war girl retire. I saw her 3 years ago and she is everything British, a mad howl and a look that is so pretty just before she fucks you up...She is Vulcan the real Warbird
17:30 That's when the sweating problem began
Can someone tell me if this is part of a series of videos and if so, what order? I see a number of vids tagged "FALKLANDS CONFLICT" but they're not in any discernible order. Thanks! (Worse comes to worse, I can figure it out, its just annoying trying to put it together in a playlist when suddenly an earlier video pops up)
Ooooh, look! Harriers!! Brilliant British aircraft!!
Oh. Dr. Liam Fox thought we could do without them.
Oh. S'pose he's right. Silly me: let the Yanks have 'em for spares.
that was also david camerons first decisions to axe the harriers along with the pilots some who were just about to graduate; sold them all to the US who still use them ,we have carriers that are only just getting the new planes but all the experience was lost but never mind the US sold us training programs .
They were brilliant, and were defnitely a key part of helping us win the Falklands War....
But Breaking News, its not 1982 anymore, and we can't keep the same planes running for that long in such a changing technological world.The Spitfire was not much older in 1982 as the Harriers are today, and I can guarantee you that if we had tried to fight the argies with them, we would've lost, no matter the experience of our pilots.
The yanks?! We have are own fighters and then some! But thanks
@flip inheck that's cute! In the advanced fleet the U.S. has, the harrier is about as needed as a blade on the end of a gun these days.
@flip inheck it's a handful used by the Marine corps and being retired in the next couple years. Not significant in the huge U.S. fleet
Falklands residents: Somebody do something, anything!
Raf 44, 50, and 101 squadrons: *Yes*
@Brian Coley No. 1(F) squadron flew fourteen harriers from HMS _Hermes._ 44, 50, and 101 squadrons flew Vulcan bombers from Ascension. 39 squadron flew Canberras from Chile for 'clandestine operations'. 120 and 201 squadrons flew Nimrods from Ascension for maritime surveillance. This was an all-forces war, and the RAF absolutely did their bit.
Edited note: This isn't the entirety of the RAF contribution; just a select few to show the range of the operations they conducted.
12:35 aspestos masks? I though they are deadly
They didn’t know that at the time.
who are the journalists/narrators aboard?
Brian Hanrahan
Despite arguments and insults the fact is, and will remain to be so, that the Falklands are a Biritsh dependancy and will remain so for as long as Argentina asserts its claims on the islands and sabre rattles. Live with it.
SuperBritabroad
Sheffield, Ardent, Coventry, Sir Gallahad and the others ships crew don’t think like you. They are sleeping with SpongeBob
Saludos desde Lanús
@@ezequieltedesco1373 LOL you are losers 😃😃 ..Argentina's Navy RAN AWAY and hid in port ..an international embarrassment.
@@loyalist5736
It’s shameful that a third world war power of that time had 40% of her fleet sunk or damaged to a greater or lesser extent by a country without combat experience.
Also, without the support of the usa and nato, another would have been the result
Saludos a la reina
@@ezequieltedesco1373 Third world shithole you mean , Argentina had plenty help remember that and also remember Britain was fighting 8000miles from home and couldn't use its airforce to defend them ships ..it was not because the Argentine airforce was good its because Britain was projecting power so far away if they had been fighting the same distance away as Argentina they would of crushed you idiots lol
@@loyalist5736
It’s very funny for me to see how resentful and ignorant you are. It’s better for you that you don’t talk about our pilots, don't embarrass yourself anymore
You were very, very lucky that at that time it was Argentina and not the Soviet Army.
Or not
do you have the orignal footage?
How do you get 10000 Argentinians in a telephone box..........
Tell them it’s not theirs !😃
Hahahah
Love it very good
english with AIDS
How do you get 7.000.000 polands, pakistanis, indian, muslims in Europe...?
You send them to England !
son horribles hasta para hacer chistes
Apart from when we settled there in 1765 and have had a presence there ever since.
A war between Argentina and Britain, the winner takes all....Oh yeah we did!!
Alll alll of our missils in your faces looool
Yeah US provided UK with a few Stinger missiles, the Sidewinder (this was the killer weapon in the air along with the Harrier system), aviation fuel and even offered us a carrier but keep in mind that not a single Argentine weapon was Argentinian my friend :)
In fact, allot of their kit such as the bombs and destroyers were British with their jets all being American/French. So too their missiles/ships etc etc. People often overook this. Both UK & USA knew about the invasion plans moths before
Thanks to usa and your goberment they shout down all our projects because we are dangerous
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN , LONG LIVE THE ENGLISH EMPIRE, UA,UA,UA
+Ernesto Colon boricua cagon
Andres Silva JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
+Ernesto Colon Nunca ha habido un imperio inglés ;)
Haha, not a clue, I'm not French. That little racist rant of yours backfired somewhat, son ;)
+mucker gee It's Toulouse, actually, love. Two u's in there, not just the one. And pretty good at the moment, roughly 16°, bit of wind, bit overcast but some spots of sunshine. You fancy popping round for a coffee? I've just stocked up on some today. Can have it on the balcony if that suits you. Let me know when you can. Hugs and kisses xxx
@madjaime2007 you are right in something, but the most of the pro were in the frontier with chile. Chile threatened was the key for the surrender. The generals is a cuestion apart, they were in conflict when galtieri said to menendez he would be punished under the war code if he surrender, this one choose to betray him. In the end menedes save his life from galtieri. Read more and you will se that menendes never order the counter attack or put the troops on the shores.
Muchas gracias por tan notable video, años que buscaba algo asi y lo agradezco en español porque soy Chileno y en algo ayudamos tambien a su victoria que sentimos como nuestra.
Sigan vendiendole el culo a los europeos asi van a terminar igual que argentina
Mauricio Rivas
Mapuche resentido, cuando te asustes por un terremoto o tsunami acordate de mi
Saludos desde Lanús
Ow yes you chilians were the only Latin country that didn't side with Argentina,
Chile has always been 🇬🇧 friend
CLANDESTINE HELP
Secret for 30 years, the files reveal Thatcher’s political maneuvering during other events in 1982, including the Iran-Iraq war, the imposition of military rule in Poland and the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.
They also show that British attitudes to its U.S. ally were less deferential than the prime minister’s letters to Reagan suggest.
In a transcript of a telephone conversation between Thatcher and her foreign minister, the prime minister criticized Reagan’s communication style, describing a message from the president as “so vague I didn’t think it was worth reading when it came in at half-eleven last night”.
In another file, she noted “the US just does not realize the resentment she is causing in the Middle East”, while a Foreign Office briefing on Reagan described the actor-turned-politician as “knowing much less than he seems to”.
However, one document showed how deeply indebted British officials felt to the United States for its “clandestine help” during the Falklands war; help that the United States was anxious be kept secret.
A car is driven along Ross Road during snowfall in Stanley, Falkland Islands June 15, 2012. REUTERS/Enrique Marcarian
“The US have made it clear that they do not wish to reveal publicly the extent of the help with which they are providing us. They are very much worried about the effects on their relations with South America. We must accept this as a fact of life,” a Ministry of Defense letter said.
The United States assisted Britain with intelligence and communications facilities as well as with military equipment such as munitions, the document said, confirming information already in the public domain.
Emblazoned with the words SECRET and CONFIDENTIAL, many of the 6,000 declassified files will prove a treasure trove for history students keen on ferreting out hitherto unknown details of the major political events of 1982, said records specialist Demissie.
“Everything comes out in the end,” he said.
Reporting By Alessandra Prentice; Editing by Andrew Osborn
Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.
www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-usa-falklands/secret-uk-files-lift-lid-on-thatcher-reagan-falklands-contacts-idUSBRE8BR00620121228
The UN is willing to accept independence OR integration with a neighbouring country OR integration with the colonial metropolitan country OR free association with another country, as reasonable outcomes from decolonisation.
In each case, THIS HAS BEEN DONE WITH THE EXPLICIT APPROVAL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE TERRITORY, through election or plebiscite. The only exception, since the establishment of the Special Committee on Decolonisation, has been Hong Kong. Geography has no bearing.
"If you want peace, prepare for war."
The Argentins never stood a chance just like their bankrupt dictatorship. They wer e not prepered, lacked anti-ship and anti-air capability on the island, their aircraft lacked the range and endurance to support the islands. The war proved how importans is the inteligence, satellite reconnaissance and air power. Also revealed that UK despite victorious is no more a military power it once have been.
CORBYN WOULD SEND THEM FLOWERS
andrew brown
To Sheffield, Ardent, Coventry, Sir Gallahad and the others ships crew too
Saludos desde Lanús
@@ezequieltedesco1373 LOSERS
But Argentine is even wekear and today woukd be be unable even to invade anything. Their Air Force ceased to exist.
Wow. What an amazing coincidence!!! I lived for many years in East London in South Africa, I as well as many UK citizens got on very well with the Afrikaaner. And I speak a little Afrikaans. They would be the last people to say that the crime of the concentration camps conducted by the "Khaki's" and Kitchiner was a deliberate act of "Genocide"'. History is very complicated. I refer to Junta's and dictators because from their mouths come lies that some today still choose to believe .
But answer me this. What legitimate historical right does Argentina have to be able to lay claim to the South Sandwhich Islands and South Georgia? Please explain? Is this not agressive territorial expansion? Naked imperialism? The exact thing that Argentinians accuse the British of being? "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones!!!"
@Eddieposted - You remember, once we discussed the issue of the age of Br. and Ar. soldiers and I quoted the data that the average age of the British was about 22, while in case of Argentinians it was 19. On the other hand there were 16 years old British soldiers, while the youngest Argentinians could have been 18 (born in 1963). Also anonther thing is the average age and the other is the number of soldiers of certain age. Anyway, most sources say the average age of the Br. soldiers was higher.
My upmost Respect to you all. God save the Queen.🇬🇧🇦🇺
I was in Europe when this happened.
Everytime we saw a British soldier they would buy us a beer, and ask if we thought the US was going to help them fight Argentina.
We'd ask them why they needed help, and of course tell them we hadn't heard of any plans for the US to help them.
Stationed in W Germany, if the US did help it wouldnt be us. We had our mission no matter what happened anywhere else.
It just stuck out in my mind, because usually stand offish they were suddenly very friendly and talkative.
When the fighting did start we were surprised to hear they were having a hard time. Especially the Royal Navy. The French Exocet missile was very effective against their ships.
We didn’t need your help. Stop talking your American nonsense.
"asbestos masks and gloves are worn..."
errrr!
...there is no explicit reference to operative paragraph 6 of Resolution 1514 (see above) nor to maintaining “territorial integrity” of a divided country. The strongest point made by the Argentine government is that reference to the “interests of the population” implies “leaving aside the principle of self-determination” (see A/66/696,p.7), but in the light of diplomatic practices of constructive ambiguity this is insufficient to be regarded as endorsement of the Argentine claim to sovereignty.
Argentina claiming sinking of Hermes
Viraat : Laugh in Indian Navy
Actually, not Hermes, they do claim they were able to bring Super Etendards near Invincible and attacked her, the British of course would never admit this. Argentine pilots have been published testimonial books about the attack.
Official history is being written by those who win tbe war, not by those who know what really happened...
Felipe is speaking Portuguese. He's brazillian..
BBC 2020: The Argentinian troops are just visiting and promoting a summer of love.
A mostly peaceful invasion of the islands.
Ok want numbers and names. 113 ships 28,000 men. Ships sunk, HMS Sheffield, HMS Coventry, HMS Ardent, HMS Antelope, RFA Sir Galahad Sir Tristram, Atlantic Conveyor, Foxtrot 4. Ships inactive (ok, not sunk but it's the same) HMS Onyx, HMS Alacrity, HMS Avenger, HMS Arrow, HMS Argonaut, HMS Antrim, HMS Glamorgan, HMS Glasgow. Ships almost inactive HMS Brilliant, HMS Broadsword, HMS Plymouth, HMS Ambuscade, Sir Lancelot.And Exeter,Fearless, Tidepool, Sir Bedivere,Yarmouth and Norland were damaged
Those Argentina soldiers must of been crapping their pants when they heard the British were on their way. They must of known in their own heads that they were about to get their asses kicked.
Stay calm the boys are on the way
Yep for destroy your ships looool
If it wasn't for this war, I think most people would have never heard of Argentina..
Argentina yes, The Falklands unlikely.
"Next time we'll sell them Italian warships".
Tony Burzio
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Love it, the Argies are exactly like (plastic) Irish - bitter in defeat. How does it taste? Beaten by a better man, deal with it and move on.
Our pilots say the same you loose your ship give up and acepted
fred dibnah
Sheffield, Ardent, Coventry, Coventry, Sir Gallahad and the others ships crew don’t think like you
Saludos desde Lanús
Dibnah .......isn’t white last name.....
I know what Robacio said. With due respect, he and BIM 5 didn't remain on the field of battle to count the dead, but retreated to Stanley. A comander who had suffered the humiliation of a defeat and of seeing his troops repatriated to the fatherland as prisoners in a ship (Canberra) that the Junta said had been sunk will say alot. The UK has a free press without government control. Thousands of casualties are impossible to hide, not even from their relatives. Robacio makes excuses.
argentina is whiter than london
That's true
Sad but true.
Not whiter than Scotland or most British towns.
Hispanic idiot
Paul Mcdonough
Sheffield, Ardent, Coventry, Sir Gallahad and the others ships crew don’t think like you
Saludos desde Lanús
@Arminevh They HOPED to lose a few ships but no military Operational plan survives contact with the enermy.When they desided to make landfall in San Carlos they knew they would lose ships.
Your missiles can't work as well as you can out at sea.
They had to postion warships so the would be the first ship attacked & sunk.Not the landing ships or Troop carriers.So they changed tactics as and when nessary included lose's to complete their mission.
Malvinas Argentinas
It was taken back in 1833 after Argentinian settlers turned up on land that The British AND French had settled on in the 1760's after Captain John Strong landed there in 1690. When we returned after having been forcibly required to leave due to lack of funds due to war with America, the Argentinians's tiny presence voluntarily left without issue. This is purely a oil based claim by Argentina. While we first landed there, Argentinian's were busy massacring Patagonian natives. Same old same old..
I watched as the Sheffield burnt. Over 2 miles away, we could smell it like we were on the deck! Haunting.
As much as I love the RN...some blunders occurred.
People say we couldn’t do this now…. But then, they said that back then too, and look what we did.
John Taylor - WHERE in the hell do you think all of those Sidewinder missiles used to shoot down ALL of those Argie planes came from - huh? HELLOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
paraord1410 A large number of those " argie" planes were A4's built by the US of A so I guess the US helped them too right?
HELLLOOOOOOO!!!!!
where do you think all the Chobham armour used to protect your tanks come from? HELLOOOOOOO
@asasscd Yep would have cost the Argentine Navy,but then you have to fight and lose ships to win.When the Royal Navy landed at San Carlos it wasn't mined.Argentina beleved no one would take a fleet were their radars & Shipboard SAM systems would not work well.They would be very vulnerable to Air attack.A "Bomb Alley" so to speak.
So thats were the Bristish went.
They knew they would lose ships and a lot.That was the price of getting on shore.
Fear of lose should not initiate inaction in war.