Forgiveness in Houseki No Kuni
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- Опубліковано 22 січ 2024
- In this video, I discuss forgiveness in Houseki no Kuni and how that effects the ending as well as Phos' role in the story.
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Me after reading HnK:
"May Phos forgive all of you because I won't"
Truly
i am not forgiving their ass. I FUCKING HATE THEM SO MUCH. OH MY FUCKING phos
aw man this video made me proper cry, phos couldn't not forgive them because hes gentle, he bore a burden the bone, soul and flesh couldn't understand because he alone became human, i love your hnk analysis sm it makes me wanna read the manga for the 5 time
Yeah, I was tearing up while recording it, just remembering how sad the ending is
Houseki no Kuni might be the saddest story I've ever read.
Agreed
Saddest but hopeful
The way that this manga continues to live rent-free in my head, and how I couldn't have expected what moments would have happened with phos and a tiny pebble
Truely taking up permanent residence in all our minds
You can look at it one way or the other, but in my view the demise of the Lunarians was not an act of vengeance, nor forgiveness exactly, just pure understanding - empathy - neutrality - nothingness. A moment before they were gone, everyone was one in the same. This contrasts with the last thing Jade said to Phos on their rampage, about being sorry for not understanding.
Yes, understanding is also a huge thing I was trying to slightly get at. I didn’t think how that connects to what Jade says as well, but you are totally right about that. Thank you for your input
The dialog was like: "You want to be gone, I want you to be gone and hurting you wouldn't bring me any satisfaction, so we hav a deal." So it was more about not wanting to hold grudges and moving on, which ironically was what the Lunarians were incapable of doing.
@@markusbarten455Yeah, Phos is the bigger person. Thats why it needed to be Phos, the rest wouldn't budge
Do you know that feeling where you are just extremely tired of what is going on in your life, and you just want to disappear?
That is what I feel is happening here.
Phos at this point is just tired. She doesn't care about getting revenge. She doesn't care about being betrayed. She doesn't care about being isolated since she was created. She just, doesn't care. Everyone suffered, Phos the most. But in the end, immortality is a curse and all are equal in which they just want to stop existing.
@@pacificnebula4899 "I don't want to be angry anymore, I just want to be at peace" This actually sums up where I am at in my own life. Sick of being used, sick of living with the results and being angry about it. If I stop being a dunce maybe things will look up for me.
Forgiveness is the most difficult lesson to learn, even if you have nothing you still have your legacy
Agreed
Very well done. It's great seeing our earliest memory of Phos circle back around to the end. From the start Phos was kind, and that never stopped affecting them.
Yeah, I love how consistent the story is with the different aspects of Phos’ character
Okay, this made me tear up a little.
I was so mad at the end of that chapter! Phos destroyed the self again and again and again for people who threw them under a bus as soon as they got a better offer, ungrateful, manipulative bastards who abused of their drive and kindness, cowards who would rather hide in a hole and shatter then rather then listen to what they had to say and the change they brought.
I wanted them to suffer or at least face the consequences of what they did to them, especially after abandoning them for 10 000 fucking years as they were off gallivanting on the moon.
But it was bittersweet. It takes a great and noble heart to shoot down your only chance at happiness in order to give peace to people who don't deserve it. Forgiveness truly is a divine emotion. Together with gratitude I'd say, which those bastards showed precious little of!
Naively I find myself hoping that Phos won't try and suppress their emotions and human nature agsin, even if it "corrupts" the living rocks. I think they deserve to act a little selfishly and to have someone to confide in, even if it's a rock.
Well said!
This is an incredibly beautiful analysis of the theme of forgiveness. Phos was that one gem, that was unsatisfied therefore strifed for change and started to change everything for all of them.
Yesh, thank you for your comment
watching this after 106's "I trust you".. I just can't. All the recent chapters made me tear up because there's sadness but also tranquility to it all. All the lines carry so much weight because of the story we had to go through with Phos beforehand. I don't want this wonderful series to end but I'm also so excited to see the final conclusion
Well said
Even more excited for the new chapter in February now.
Same!
I’ve never read a story that has impacted my life as much as Houseki no kuni.
It still lives rent free in my head, and whenever I remember phos’s suffering and how even after all that he still manages to find forgiveness. And to find the good in the bad.
(I would’ve sent them to suffering being the petty bitch I am) but phos truly is the greatest main character in all of fiction.
Same, I love it!
I see it as Phos is now on a path to become a Buddha.
Or maybe they already are, maybe what the manga calls "becoming human" means that.
Yeah, i’ve heard of that too
Really should learn more about buddhism for my theories :P
@@rizacreatorYT The series is full on Buddhism. Like, the series ends in number 108 (a holy Buddhist number). Adamant is a Buddhist monk. Aechmea's true name is Yama (Buddhist king of hell), Phos gets slowly transformed into a Bodshittva by getting incorporated each of the 7 treasures of Buddhism (gold, silver, lapis lazuli, seashell, agate, pearl, and carnelian), the three races are the separation of the body, etc.
Let alone all the imagery from the Lunarians and later Bodhisattva!Phos.
If you know a bit of Buddhism, you will get to enjoy the series a lot more. It is basically a forced enlightenment for Phos.
Absolute forgiveness is a mentality preached by those who feel guilty
this is why it is so prevalent in JP media, especially early post-war
Yeah, it is a common belief in many religions as well. I can see where you are coming from though, I guess it could of also been out of a form of guilt from Phos. I do like how alot of this series is up to interpretation
Maybe here's another way of saying something philosophically similar, from a Buddhist perspective, if I can attempt to paraphrase my temple's sensei: If you investigate the past lives of Buddhas and bodhisattvas, they're generally people who have done terrible things. (As to the video, it's amazing! Thanks!)
@@arwenspicer Due to the sheer number of reincarnations everyone will have a number of atrocious lives in their past incarnations
I find it curious that when they thank Phos, Kongo looks serene as always, but Enma, someone who has been shown to be stoic throughout the entire series, is wincing...
I felt like that might of been Enma being more genuine, but idk
@@rizacreatorYT No yeah that's exactly what I get too. Like he was touched/pained by the event. It made me tear up a lil
I hadn't noticed that until watching this video. Leaders carry a heavy burden, and good leaders even more so. I can dislike the person, but I have to admire his dedication. Idk if they revived all the gems ever, but many many many were brought back.
If you think about it, being ground to the finest dust is technically one way the gems could truly die. The lunaroans were giving the gems something they could hot attain. If a big enough piece is left over, their consciousness could stay awake and now they would be stuck somewhere for who knows how long.
moral of the story. treat people badly because you will be wildly rewarded for it.
It's still wild to me that the Lunarians want to move on cause they're bored to death and yet they have everything, can do almost anything. They didn't even ask permission entirely from the Lustrous if they wanted to be Lunarians and move on with them... Someone please explain to me how they were so easily enthralled at the idea of being prayed to nothingness, their complacency infuriates me.
There's just no closure, no.. wow we were really harsh to Phos and this situation is messed up... Just, ho boy the moon is cool and everyone's here now we should have fun and I guess never question the whole deal of us disappearing with the og Lunarians in about ten thousand years. I want to know the disgusting details of them being convinced.
Aechmea says when meeting Phos that the Lunarians are miserable, but drown their misery with material things. The gems assimilated into that. Party At The End speaks of that. Rutile as a therapist says that the thought of being prayed comforts their patients, and that Yellow is an extreme case of the need/desired to end existing. The lunarians are NOT happy. They are numbing all their misery and depression like we do.
Phos had nothing, so Phos could not numb their misery and depression. That's why we feel worse for Phos, but all the characters feel similarly. That's why Phos prays, because Phos sees them as the same in misery.
If you havent seen "the good place" please let me suggest it. It is a great series and it could help to understand the lunarians reasoning.
@@Anharie I have, love it!
Probably off topic but Padparadscha might saw this from afar and her choice of action to betray is one of the small step to those 10k lonely and pain years for Phos.
True
Thanks for talking about this beautiful story. Great video!
Amazing video, i love the analysis. You deserve more subs fr
Thank you! :)
Started crying halfway through, amazing video ❤
What a fantastic video and reflection upon this great story conclusions
Thanks for sharing it, it helped a lot being able to hear all of that
Crying in the club (my room) at this video
Your welcome :)
It's wasBuddha's journey. Phos was the most human of the rocks and he was forced by the literal king of hell (Yama) to undergo a journey of crippling and transformation to become a new Bodhisattva so she could pray everyone into true death.
Thank you for these videos ❤🙏
Of course! :) Thank you for watching
as a conclusion, all phos friend even sensei is a hypocrite... just finished reading the last chapter... how all of phos "friend" just use him as a tool for their benefit.. they even have such a look down face in a panel is what enrage me... "have a pleasant 10 000 year" is really hurt
IM NOT CRYING YOURE CRYING 😭
Alright, I get it, I'll reread the manga for the tenth time
That moment when the God phos said good bye 😭😭😭
I love little phos very much 🥹
As we all do
@@rizacreatorYT Cant think otherwise 🥹. Also really liked the video and it made me wonder who would be the closest candidate for aechmea's artifical human project besides phos. Maybe yellow? Guess not
@@madensodas4628 I feel like Lapis was a candidate, but perhaps they were too manipulative to begin with.
Phos not recognising their own self in a memory and mentioning how cute they were was heartbreaking
Thank you
Of course! Thank you for watching :)
i'll naturaly watch such a good video and thank you for responding
@@darkrainbow-op5mo Your welcome, more HNK content awaits because I am obsessed
This is a masterpiece anime man