SAVATE vs. KICKBOXING,MUAY THAI (сават против кикбоксинга,муай тай)
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Winner: A.Zankifo (TKO) -
Alain ZANKIFO (savate) vs. Mike ZAMBIDIS (kickboxing,muay thai) Le Grand Tournoi 03.06.2002. Ален Занкифо (сават) против Майка Замбидиса (кикбоксинг,муай тай)
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nice demonstration of how good savate is and should be feared and respected
The difference is also the origin of all these martial arts... Savate comes from France, Full Contact, Kick Boxing are a mix of Boxing and Karate, and Mhuay Thai is from Thailand... The technics are all slightly different, but you are right once in the ring it is not so easy to see the differences
Siam origin, learn it
At every fight Between savate and other , savate win
he didn’t win shit he got his ass kicked
The Savate guy won, didn't he?
What make the difference is not the fighting style but the athlete !
@@richardholmes7199 Yes he did. His opponent got hurt and couldn't finish the fight.
Muay Thai Win
I am just learning about Savate because of a fighter who trains with my gym. His name is Karl Amossou (I believe that is the spelling) He is a fighter on Bellatore now (he fights March 30th 2012. I have noticed that he attacks the front of the leg a lot more often that Muay thai fighters, and he can sweep front legs with no problem. Savate seems to be a nice counter to a good Muay Thai fighter because the Savate fighter will always be outside of the Muay Thai fighters comfortable range.
brenden murphy
That's an interesting comment.
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Savateurs have amazing conditioning
savate is all technique while muay thai or kick boxing is more on the power side depending on the figher.
I wouldn't say this guy was being a coward, but more like he was really trying to stay on his toes and watch the other dude's movements. Savate ain't as highly known as other arts are, but it can seriously demolish a person who doesn't pay attention.
@cwmyr Nice post, though I wouldn't call toe kicks a negative thing. Truth is that when you're wearing shoes, the toe kick does more damage. (Greater rotational speed and smaller point of contact. And a greater reach as well). However, if you don't wear shoes, you're gonna bust your toes up. But, in a street setting (yes, I know it's the old street argument) how often are you going to be without shoes? So while it's a disadvantageinthe ring, I'd say it's a plus towards self defence.
Savate must be allowed in savate dress and savate shoes.Here Savate fight have disadvantage as they were not use to fight with bare foot.
@cwmyr Also, savate uses checks as well though just like muay thai does though most savateurs will dodge when given the chance. It's the footwork speaking.
@bob23yer there's lots of subtleties in technique and tactics for each style, for example the way they strike their roundhouse kicks,thai's with the shin,savate with the instep.
Another example is Thais generally have a more square stance,sometimes have more open guard because they like to grab kicks,as opposed to kick boxers who have a more narrow stance.
Things like how they guard when throwing kicks,slip and block punches etc all differ,guess to average person its hard to pick up.
dynamic of the fight, distance, boxing and kicking techniqes, training process, all is different
in savate it is forbiden to block kicks, while in muay thay blocking is elementary, so is clinching and infighting, elbow is most welcomed...and the savate she...
What u mean forbidden? Ur not supposed to block roundhouse kicks with ur hands....they definitely check kicks with the shin
@bob23yer It takes having some knowledge of some of the common combinations and striking techniques that each style uses. It's not always easy to tell, it's true, but the more you know about a given style the easier it becomes to pick it out in a fight. That said, once most fighters start to become fatigued, style takes a back seat and it becomes more of a brawl which always just looks like human ferocity.
Can't give up such a height and reach advantage and expect to win.
@Vichter3 i'm already a muay thai black belt and red glove in savate. Just saying that this martial art should be respected like any other. That's not about "whhich one is better" thing. :)
@agimcomas
The main difference, in countering the speed and power, and the onslaught of the game. The main difference is in the same working distance.
да, это не выйгрыш!Mike ZAMBIDIS крассава, как всегда выкладывался в своих боях на все 100 %.
if not then cut Zambidis found a way how to win the fight, I know!
What I saw was zambidis hunting him down ,until the French ref stopped the fight ,who knows why ,for his fellow French,
Damn blue trunks took a lot of hits and never wanted to go down. I think he was the tougher fighter.
What a great fight!
Hard fighters!
I was able to see the difference right away. Savate fighters seem to be more liberated in the ring. In my opinion, Savate is the Jun Fan Gung Fu of kickboxing. The applications is set for the street. They wear shoes for toe kicks... think about it.
Savate wins
@Molia2ooo What kind of answer is that?
I think its not fair to call it muaythai, if he is not allowed to use his elbow and knee. Muaythai is nothing without those weapons .
2 savate fighters🤷♂️
What I don't understand is how you see the difference between kickboxing, Mhuay Tahi, Savate, Full Contact or whatever. For me they all just throw punches and kicks toward eachother untill one of them falls down. It all looks the same. Like in this vid...how do you see who is the savateman and the mhuay thai man? What's the difference?
You cant make a savate vs other style if they dont have their steel toe boots. WTF!??!!?
@HowToMarket solid points
@bob23yer Muay Thai is also a little more loose with thier technique and they relax a little when they throw punches.
А кто из них что
@agimcomas Well, actually Savate also has elbow and knee strikes
who told you that? i've never seen elbows or knee strikes in savate matches.
@@tomprassas6034
Because what you have seen is French boxing ( boxe française ) not savate . Savate is the martial art were French boxing is the combat sport . It is amalgamated but this is like saying there is no elbow or knee strike in karaté because they don't use them to spar .
True that, I was introduced to it further by watching human weapon, it’s really cool they teach you the history and methods of a lot of martial arts
@bob23yer The difference lies within the training, but once on the ring, there are no styles, only fighters. Also, the rules of savate are different from those of Muay Thai. In essence, no elbows or knees.
@atamarfei
I apologize you what fight looked? Zambidis went rectilinearly forward and received.)
but savate without shoes is really like kick, full or muay thai, cause you cant hit properly without hurting you your foot, thats why they use a shoe, like the old savate from the city of Marseille, and thaths from my point of view the most powerful weapon of savate the mix between leg kick and shoe... whats more I didnt see any " chaussé bas" de la part du savate man.
@bob23yer That is not thai boxing thats just regular kickboxing
@skiesju
Why the coward? Zambidis fought as could.
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When was this fight? Which year and tournament?
@bob23yer if you can't tell something as simple as that then what are you doing watching this video.
MIKE ZAMBIDIS (the guy who lost) = kickboxer ,the best kickboxer in the world actually!
@bob23yer Distinction in tactics of fight and technics of blows by feet.
@julio26789 True. Once you restrict a style then you're no longer fighting agains the actual style.
I rate both Muay Thai and savate. However, the only way to rate the two is to allow full use of both their individual weapons. Restrict elbows and knees of MT and you're no longer fighting against a MT practitioner.
It's like saying the savate guy isn't allowed to use savate kicks.
would be a bloody war if you allow the savate guy to wear shoes and use low front kick ( chassé ) and the may thai fighter to use elbow and knee .
Well, I kinda suspect that letting savateurs wear their shoes would be an even bigger game changer. Liver kick knockouts incoming
LOl more like Savate vs Boxing! The dude barely kicked
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muay thai without elbows and knees is just kickboxing why call it muay thai.
C'est n'importe quoi les combats entre des discipline si différente puisque les combattant n'ont pas les même règles
ce sont les regles du kick pour lesb2
The best box savvate muai tai kikcbox
EVERY OF THEM HAS BOX BASIS
no one wears boots so it´s not savate!
@bushidoartss yeah, yeah. chill out man, you are the guy!
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Place Buakaw against this black guy then i'll agree its Thai vs Savate. :)
put buakaw against lebanner at his pick then I will agree .
Странно, саватер весь бой огребал и вдруг победил. Наверное, кикер руку сломал об его башку))
Наверно для саватера выстоять с Майком уже победа😂
The Huay thai fighter woulda won had he been able to use knees
@julio26789 Exactly.
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Looks like Savate vs Savate
the guy in blue is practiclly boxing , he uses some few useless kicks. His punching did all the work. Am sure that a boxer would of nok him down real quick.
The black guy was kinda mixed though
@agostinho1234 Bullshit, let Muay Thai kickboxer use all armoury and will change your mind.
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They aren't very good boxers.