Moomins and the Comet Chase - Atop the Fourth Wall

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  • Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
  • Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this Patreon-sponsored episode, Linkara looks at a compilation film of a Moomins TV show!
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    Originally released June 8th, 2024
    ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION: Moomins and the walking simulator!
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  • @scottieburgess2197
    @scottieburgess2197 25 днів тому +300

    He’s done Asterix, now Moomins, now all that’s left is for him to review a Tintin comic, and the holy trinity of obscure-yet-somewhat-popular European media will be complete!

    • @avremirine8986
      @avremirine8986 25 днів тому +33

      What about Smurfs or Blueberry?

    • @eon1014
      @eon1014 25 днів тому +17

      What about Spirou?

    • @Wanderingsage7
      @Wanderingsage7 25 днів тому +9

      Huh. Thought he covered tinting already.

    • @scottieburgess2197
      @scottieburgess2197 25 днів тому +12

      @@avremirine8986 Ok, a trinity +2, also known as a Hitchhiker's trinity.

    • @jeremyadler9620
      @jeremyadler9620 25 днів тому +14

      Agreed for Tintin! Loved that as a kid and I still have the comics today. I also sometimes look at old episodes on the animated series on UA-cam.
      I've sometimes thought about what he could cover for it. I go back and forth on Destination: Moon/Explorers on the Moon from the TV show ... but than I wonder if I should include King Ottokar's Sceptre for backstory on the villain in Explorers. It's a tough choice!
      I also loved the Wallace and Gromit reference! VERY hyped for the movie later this year! Wouldn't mind seeing him review one of the movies someday :)

  • @Tinyironfist
    @Tinyironfist 25 днів тому +133

    Appropriate that you did a review of a Moomins movie on Pride Month. Tove Jansson was a bisexual author who was in a long-term relationship with a woman for the rest of her life.

    • @Pikachu2Ash
      @Pikachu2Ash 25 днів тому +11

      Aw that's sweet.

    • @RabbitShirak
      @RabbitShirak 25 днів тому +22

      Two of her characters are also based on her ex-fiancee and the previously mentioned girlfriend.

    • @Carlos-bz5oo
      @Carlos-bz5oo 25 днів тому +6

      @@RabbitShirak Said characters being Snufkin and Moomintroll himself. There's a reason half the fandom ships them

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 25 днів тому +10

      Shame that she had to live through a time where same-sex relationships were not only frowned upon but even considered a criminal act.

    • @Painocus
      @Painocus 24 дні тому +9

      @@Carlos-bz5oo Snufkin is based on the ex-fiancee, Moomin is based on herself, the girlfrend mentioned, Tuulikki Pietilä, is the inspiration for Too-ticky. The character Vifslan (apparently called Bob in English) is also based on her then girlfriend Vivica Bandler. Vifslan's partner? Tofslan (Thingumy in English) is also based on herself (get it, Tove = Tofslan, Vivica = Vifslan). The Groke is also based on herself.

  • @mesektet5776
    @mesektet5776 25 днів тому +89

    "Life get's complicated when you wanted the owned things."
    Can we make that our new clip for copyright strikes on UA-cam?

  • @BellaFalk95
    @BellaFalk95 25 днів тому +53

    The Lord of the rings references are fitting because the Moomin author, Tove Jansson, illustrated an edition of The hobbit.

  • @suorastas1
    @suorastas1 25 днів тому +52

    The original book was written in the 40’s and was very much an a-bomb allegory. Which sort of explains the weird tone.
    There is an anime movie adaptation of the book made in the 90’s (released with an anime series covering all of the books and some comics) which while less one to one adaptation than the Polish version works better as an independent film

    • @RoseWaltz
      @RoseWaltz 25 днів тому +2

      thank you - that adds a lot of context!

    • @fermintenava5911
      @fermintenava5911 22 дні тому +4

      It was also inspired by an eruption of Mount Vesuv and a growing fear of bombing planes - Finnland had switched its loyalties back and forth during World War II after Russia had invaded it earlier in their *cough-cough* "interest of security".

  • @shadowldrago
    @shadowldrago 25 днів тому +33

    "Can you believe there are people out there who don't think I'm hilarious?" Ugh, I KNOW! They have no sense of taste.

  • @darraasi2998
    @darraasi2998 25 днів тому +44

    Never did I expect Linkara to do Moomins of all things. As a Finn, I approve.

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 25 днів тому +4

      Fellow Finn here, and I completely agree.

    • @Ihavethetouch
      @Ihavethetouch 22 дні тому +2

      We need more of this

  • @EmperorSeth
    @EmperorSeth 25 днів тому +95

    Also, it's weird how "troll" has becomes so many completely unrelated creatures in pop culture and mythology. You got the British giants that turn to stone, the Norwegian giants that already are stone, faerie hippos apparently, green dudes that regenerate wounds, little creatures with wild hair, jerks on the internet, gray-skinned aliens with candy corn horns, etc...

    • @brendaneichler5244
      @brendaneichler5244 25 днів тому +2

      He even reviewed some of the latter. Or at least, the comic they're from, he hasn't gotten to Act 5 yet.

    • @nawf4372
      @nawf4372 25 днів тому +26

      Part of that is because Troll was kind of a catch all term for mystical creatures in Scandinavia and the regions around it.
      Basically, what Yokai is to Japan.
      They weren't supposed to be one thing with a set of characteristics, but a bunch of nonhuman things humans could encounter.

    • @suorastas1
      @suorastas1 25 днів тому +8

      @@nawf4372 indeed a wizard in Swedish is trollkarl and sorcery is trolldom. That was kinda funny when I was first reading Harry Potter in Swedish.

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf 25 днів тому +2

      @@suorastas1 Sorcery, trolddom literally: The art of trolls

    • @leephillips4402
      @leephillips4402 25 днів тому +2

      Trolls are the most confusing of all the interpreted in different ways fantasy creatures.

  • @HORRIOR1
    @HORRIOR1 25 днів тому +32

    These critiques are why I prefer the anime movie version of this story. It just brings more logic to the table.
    Also this story was written when the fear of nuclear war was brand new and everyone expected the world to be destroyed. The comet being symbolic of the nuclear bombs.
    Sure there's the chance of it happening, but as things have gone, the Comet in Moominvalley's prediction was right.

  • @ZellyTheFangirl
    @ZellyTheFangirl 25 днів тому +63

    "I'm sure the comet just brushed us with its tail before zipping off into space again"
    legitimately shocked this wasn't met with the "Of course! Don't you know anything about SCIENCE?" clip

    • @nawf4372
      @nawf4372 25 днів тому +12

      Already used that with the tornado sail. Have to be twice as ridiculous as that to have him repeat the joke in the same episode.

    • @alexjewett7455
      @alexjewett7455 25 днів тому +2

      He already used that one.

    • @Volvagia1927
      @Volvagia1927 24 дні тому +2

      Also: I usually get the logic behind using it, but genuinely unsure deploying that gag was exactly fair here. Usually, it's something at least somewhat trying to be plausible and failing, but here, we're dealing with fairy tale logic.

  • @ShinyGaara65
    @ShinyGaara65 25 днів тому +32

    Doctor Linksano's reaction to the comet was absolutely perfect.

  • @RikuTheFinlander
    @RikuTheFinlander 25 днів тому +28

    Greetings from Finland🇫🇮
    This review is much appreciated😊
    Thank you, Linkara🙏🤗

  • @Wanderingsage7
    @Wanderingsage7 25 днів тому +42

    The only thing I knew about Moomins before this was that Snuffkin is really relatable

    • @kakaroto4ever
      @kakaroto4ever 25 днів тому +6

      And his japanese voice has been Takehito Koyasu (Dio Brando) since 1990 :D

    • @Carlos-bz5oo
      @Carlos-bz5oo 25 днів тому +1

      He's one the chillest characters in fiction

  • @koneheadcokehead4981
    @koneheadcokehead4981 25 днів тому +23

    Great to see Finland get some love on the Channel

  • @koneheadcokehead4981
    @koneheadcokehead4981 25 днів тому +28

    Truly a big moment that the world will remember for decades to come and be one of the touching milestones for this channel

  • @OtakuD50
    @OtakuD50 25 днів тому +24

    I see Moomins, I click. Must admit I never saw any of the stop motion series, but I liked what I saw from this.

    • @marcinswiecicki6713
      @marcinswiecicki6713 25 днів тому +1

      Strongly reccomend it. It in my opinion has a lot of definitive versions of characters, compering it with that lovely time when moomins got an Anime

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 25 днів тому +2

      I grew up with the 90s anime series, including the movie. Binge watched recorded episodes with my sister all the time, and still have nostalgic feelings towards them.

  • @mattsharp4135
    @mattsharp4135 25 днів тому +14

    Funny you should mention The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings so often - Tove Jansson did an illustrated version of The Hobbit in 1960 that actually resulted in a minor rewrite by Tolkien so that it was clear that Gollum was supposed to be an emaciated, Hobbit sized creature rather than the grotesque giant monstrosity that Jansson came up with.

    • @shinigamiphantom1391
      @shinigamiphantom1391 25 днів тому +5

      Found the pictures from the said book and Tove Jansson did a splendod job.

  • @Baku1Haku
    @Baku1Haku 25 днів тому +22

    I squealed in delight when I saw the thumbnail. I love Moomins

  • @XanthinZarda
    @XanthinZarda 25 днів тому +15

    Linkara, you really should watch the 90s Moomin anime. It's 70ish episodes long, covers a lot of the lore and books, and has a streamlined cast.

    • @CMWaters
      @CMWaters 25 днів тому +3

      It also has the Groake though, right? That thing from what little I saw was nightmare fuel.

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 25 днів тому +3

      It had two seasons, the first one of which received an English dub and was based largely on previously written stories, while the second season was largely original stories and wasn't dubbed into English.
      And yes, this series is where the infamous Groke was at her scariest, if you ask me.

  • @SpySecretSquirrel
    @SpySecretSquirrel 25 днів тому +5

    Between the photo and the title, I feel like saying:
    Hello and welcome to Atop the 4th Moom, where Moomin comics Moom

  • @WolfJarl
    @WolfJarl 25 днів тому +9

    I'm a Finn so the moment this showed up on my feed I instantly had to see this; Moomins is pretty much ingrained in our culture.
    Tove Jansson (a lesbian artist and writer) originally drew what would become the Moomins onto the wall of her family home's bathroom as a protest to something against her parents, intending it to be scary, but unwittingly made it look cute, and thus she'd later created the characters proper and write novels about them.
    Her works often tackled very deep philosophical and existential conundrums through clever allegory, like the fact Tove Jansson was a lesbian living in a time where it was considered immoral even in Finland. In fact all the characters are inspired by people she knew, like Moominpappa and Moominmamma being inspired by her parents, Snufkin (my absolute favorite character) was based off her ex-boyfriend, at least two of the characters, like Thingummy and Bob and Tooticky were based off her girlfriends (Thingummy and Bob off herself and an earlier girlfriend and Tooticky after her life partner).
    Comet in Moominvalley is very much an allegory for the Cold War and the mutually assured destruction scenario; the comet representing an end of the world nuclear holocaust brought on by the U.S. and U.S.S.R., something well beyond the control of a small country like Finland the same way astronomical phenomenon is beyond the world's control. The original novel also actually introduced Snufkin, Snorkmaiden and Snork.
    Tove Jansson was also the illustrator for the first Finnish translation of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit. Just a fun bit of trivia. I think her art style suited the book, though her depiction of Gollum is WEIRD. So suffice to say the Smaug jokes were spot-on.
    All-in-all the Polish stop-motion series isn't that great, no disrespect for the people who worked on it. If one is interested in checking out the series outside of the books, I'd recommend the 90's anime adaptation Tanoshii Moomin Ikka, a very much beloved adaptation in Finland on account that it was an international collab between Finland, the Netherlands and Japan with Tove Jansson's brother Lars Jansson as creative consultant. They also did an adaptation of Comet in Moominvalley, though I believe that was never dubbed into English.
    The world of the Moomins, while fantastical, is also pretty damn terrifying, seeing as they have giant flesh eating plants (the tree trying to eat Snorkmaiden), dragons (both flying and aquatic kind), the aforementioned Hattifatteners (weird plant-based creatures that are drawn to lightning and deliberately try to get struck by it), giant creatures like the lizard Sniff encountered in this, and an absolutely terrifying monster called the Groke that freezes everything around her and can seemingly teleport.
    Also the Moomin Valley economy is WEIRD. They don't seem to believe in money, yet somehow Moominpappa and Moominmamma have a super cozy setup complete with a fully stocked kitchen, Moominpappa has an office with a ton of books (he's a writer constantly working on his autobiography it seems) and he even has a friggin' tobacco plantation in their backyard (in the books since no smoking allowed in cartoons).

    • @dougjacobson8736
      @dougjacobson8736 25 днів тому +1

      ::checks out Golem::
      Neat!
      ::Reads more::
      Looks like Tolkien didn't like how big she made Golem then realized he never mentioned Golem's size in the books... he added more info in a later edition.

    • @Greil9
      @Greil9 22 дні тому +1

      Actually there was an english dub for the 1990s movie version. Though according to Wikipedia "An English dub of the film was released on the German DVD titled Die Mumins - Der Komet im Muminland." So it would probably be difficult to find. It also didn't include any of the original actors from the english dub of the series.
      Also as far as I know, Tove wasn't lesbian, but bisexual.

  • @ALBAM96A
    @ALBAM96A 25 днів тому +7

    13:10 that was a hell of a Wallace and Gromit reference...... Nice 👍

  • @Jarakin
    @Jarakin 25 днів тому +29

    Have to admit my experience with Moomins is just a recent extremly chill computer game where you combat the forces of gentrification.
    Props to game for just straight up saying that if calm rational discussion doesn't work, then it's time for the constructive power of severe vandalism though.

    • @Carlos-bz5oo
      @Carlos-bz5oo 25 днів тому +3

      That's how Snufkin is half of the time

  • @KitsuneRokaku
    @KitsuneRokaku 25 днів тому +57

    *hearing the next review is Avengers: Disassembled*
    Me: No. No. No. No. No. No. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. WAIT! WAIT! WAIT!

    • @mikaelste-marie1275
      @mikaelste-marie1275 25 днів тому +7

      Well now my interest has spike.

    • @Pikachu2Ash
      @Pikachu2Ash 25 днів тому +2

      Likely because the story is Similar to WandaVision.

    • @wanderingstorytellerj7758
      @wanderingstorytellerj7758 25 днів тому +7

      @@Pikachu2Ash More like the original climax to She-Hulk before she went to the real world and changed it. House of M is a more disastrous WandaVision.

    • @Pikachu2Ash
      @Pikachu2Ash 25 днів тому +3

      @@wanderingstorytellerj7758 No but this story and WandaVision both involve her "imaginary kids"

    • @nicolasgarant9124
      @nicolasgarant9124 25 днів тому +11

      ​@@Pikachu2Ash Probably also because it has one of Linkara's most hated things. Unnecessary and gratuitous superhero deaths.

  • @mikkosimonen
    @mikkosimonen 25 днів тому +15

    Snufkin is some manner of anarcho-communist, so hearing someone call him a capitalist was bizarre.

    • @tkayube
      @tkayube 23 дні тому +1

      Yeah. The context here is that Snufkin can "own" anything by leaving it where it is and just remembering it later.

  • @Wanderingsage7
    @Wanderingsage7 25 днів тому +26

    6:34 wow. Rainbow Brite takes a single week off and this happens

  • @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
    @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 25 днів тому +11

    I found the 90s moomin tv show a few years back through UA-cam compilations and i don't know what it says about me that i unironically like it and have watched more than a few episodes. I'm a grown man and don't have kids or anything. I only saw one episode that i swear i only half remembered while sick in elementary school or something as a kid (so it's not nostalgia) but my god, this show is just so painfully cute and pleasant. Like animal crossing on steroids.

    • @RabbitShirak
      @RabbitShirak 25 днів тому +3

      It's definitely one of the best anime series.

    • @LARKXHIN
      @LARKXHIN 25 днів тому +2

      It says you like to enjoy nice relaxing things and that's just great 🙂

  • @Brilliams
    @Brilliams 25 днів тому +10

    Nice to see Linkara review Moomins! As finn, i feel proud.
    ....although, the polish version of the moomins, isnt exactly the one I though he was gonna review, but the 90's finno-japanese film, which is very standalone film & beautifully animated.
    Fun fact also, in Finnish, the movies name is called Muumit ja pyrstötähti, which directly translates to moomins & the tailed star, which i think sounds cooler, but is essentially just finnish name for comet 😅

    • @andrewollmann304
      @andrewollmann304 25 днів тому +2

      Fun fact: The English word “comet” ultimately derives from the Greek word “komētēs” (“with long hair”). I believe the full term was “aster kometes” (star with long hair).

  • @PapaTaurean
    @PapaTaurean 25 днів тому +12

    Love the barrage of tree jokes.

  • @JonCrs10
    @JonCrs10 25 днів тому +19

    Moominkara from Moominsota.

    • @andrewollmann304
      @andrewollmann304 25 днів тому +3

      Moominnesota.

    • @JonCrs10
      @JonCrs10 25 днів тому +1

      Interestingly, there's also a Finland, Minnesota. Its up by Lake Superior

    • @andrewollmann304
      @andrewollmann304 25 днів тому

      @@JonCrs10 And there is a Denmark in Wisconsin.

  • @thomaspalazzolo5902
    @thomaspalazzolo5902 25 днів тому +4

    Oh Moomin has internet trolls. She's called Little My.

  • @Rosgakori
    @Rosgakori 25 днів тому +8

    Hell yeah, Moomins. This is one of those funny things how everyone in Finland (and other Nordic countries) is very familiar with them, and that there are in fact people in the world who don't know what the Moomins are :D I've watched Moomins TV- show (the good 90s one) ever since I was a little kid. I can heartily recommend the Tove & Lars Jansson comics, they are funny as all hell and kinda wild.
    I had not actually seen this version of Comet in Moominvalley before but I am very familiar with the Dutch/Japanese coproduction movie (tied to the 90s TV show) which is gorgeous, one of the most beautiful animated movies I've seen. There are also some notions of nuclear fear in these later version - while the book was written before first use of nuclear weapons, Jansson has revised the book and the adaptations played up the apocalyptic feel of the comic.

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 25 днів тому +1

      There's a good reason why Moomin isn't much known outside of Europe and Japan. Tove Jansson was actually once approached by Walt Disney himself, who wanted to buy the Moomins, but Jansson refused. That's why Americans hardly know of this franchise.

  • @AlexHarrison-zv4jj
    @AlexHarrison-zv4jj 25 днів тому +11

    Weirder or less weird than Existenz? You make the call!

    • @danielbrant6740
      @danielbrant6740 24 дні тому +2

      Less weird than Existenz because none of the characters in Moomin needed to have bio-ports installed.

  • @g83ster
    @g83ster 24 дні тому +2

    I recognized Peter Stormares voice and also heard other Swedish accents in the clips. Imdb informs me that most of the English dub is done by international Swedish actors (von Sydow, Stormare, Alexander and Stellan Skarsgård). And also Mads Mikkelsen, who is Danish but speaks Swedish as he studied dancing there.
    Tove Jansson was a finswede and spent some years of her life in Sweden. A lot of Swedish dramatisations/dubs of her work are performed with a Finswedish accent as that is what she herself sounded like.

  • @tinopulkka956
    @tinopulkka956 25 днів тому +3

    3:36 if you think that's weird wait till you hear about the anime which was made in japan, had help from the dutch and has been translated back to finnish, swedish and english, it's a beloved classic.

  • @MagiTailWelkin
    @MagiTailWelkin 25 днів тому +5

    As a Brit I greatly appreciate the Wallace and Gromit reference.

  • @koneheadcokehead4981
    @koneheadcokehead4981 25 днів тому +5

    Linkara Truly the biggest Moomins expert

  • @warhammerguy
    @warhammerguy 25 днів тому +3

    Interesting tidbit about this particular story.
    Tove Jansson, the creator of Moomin actually put several elements from her own life into the story of Moomin but unlike many modern writers she did it with a lot of subtlety.
    The comet making the sky red and Moomin and his friends hurrying home to their family to then hide in a shelter is actually a reference to her childhood growing up in Finland during the world war 2. The air bombing raids made the sky red with fire and it separated families when the men went to war and the women stayed home, not knowing if the other was okay or even alive and families would hide in the bombing shelters thinking they might die and hoping that the bombers would veer away before hitting their position.

  • @eventyraren
    @eventyraren 25 днів тому +6

    I grew up with the Moomin TV series. The 1990 Dutch-Japanese-Finnish version.

  • @SegaNintendoGuy64
    @SegaNintendoGuy64 25 днів тому +3

    My first viewing on Moomins as a kid and now is the 1990 animated show shown on CBBC 'Children's BBC' that takes me back.

  • @MythicSuns
    @MythicSuns 24 дні тому +2

    I remember as a kid stumbling upon the Moomins books in my Grandad's house, back then I was somewhere around 6? Maybe 7? I had no idea that the series was quite as huge as it was; I thought it was one of those stories that did a few rounds around Europe and eventually hit the UK but I had no idea it was known all the way in America and even Japan (yup, there's a Moomins anime and I gotta say, Snufkin's design lends itself well to the anime style).

  • @jessewilley531
    @jessewilley531 25 днів тому +4

    Mr. Muskrat should have a happiness party with Eeyore.

    • @mcv2178
      @mcv2178 24 дні тому +1

      I love Eeyore, he would make a great goth or emo chick.

    • @jessewilley531
      @jessewilley531 24 дні тому +2

      @@mcv2178 You need at least four people for a good party... so maybe Oscar the Grouch and Boober Fraggle?

  • @eon1014
    @eon1014 25 днів тому +16

    Look at the plus side, Linkara: Since Avengers: Disassembled is so infamously bad, you would have had to review it sooner or later anyway, so at least you can finally get it out of the way.

    • @amazonstorm
      @amazonstorm 25 днів тому +8

      I am legitimately surprised he didn't look at it earlier, same with Enerald Twilight

    • @Pikachu2Ash
      @Pikachu2Ash 25 днів тому +4

      I say that applies to a lot of reviews he finally got around too and yet there is still more crap being made everyday XD

    • @eon1014
      @eon1014 25 днів тому +4

      @@Pikachu2Ash Well, I guess that means he’s not gonna lose his job anytime soon, then.

    • @Pikachu2Ash
      @Pikachu2Ash 25 днів тому +7

      @@eon1014 If he loses his job it's not gonna be from lack of material.

    • @mttylerdurden9
      @mttylerdurden9 24 дні тому

      Infamously bad? Most people ive seen talk about it have praised the story. It's definitely one of my favorite avengers storylines.

  • @drunkenbuddha4361
    @drunkenbuddha4361 25 днів тому +19

    16:17 nice to know the rape tree from The Evil Dead found himself a job

    • @louisduarte8763
      @louisduarte8763 25 днів тому +6

      It wants to clean up its public image.

    • @cinomaticsith
      @cinomaticsith 20 днів тому

      I wonder if this tree is a descendent of one of the trees from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

  • @Yemto
    @Yemto 25 днів тому +2

    I have seen a few Moomin episodes. The one I remember best is of a magic hat, which would transform anything in it into something else. For example egg shells turns into clouds, that anyone can sit on and drive.

  • @adamo6250
    @adamo6250 25 днів тому +2

    The More i watch you, the more a sense of relief and reassurance. Since I'm someone who has such difficulty being honest with some people when it comes to fandoms. I like a lot of things (Marvel especially), and yet it often feels like i have to enjoy or at least embrace the fandoms of my friends in order to feel close to them, even though i rather focus with what works for me. Which are dinosaurs, cartoons, and Kaiju movies. I like Star Wars and other fandoms just fine, but i rather focus my time on. It's like that Thanksgiving episode from FRIENDS season one, where Monica tries to make a batch of mashed potatoes to please everyone, and it drive her crazy, it's not that she's not willing to do, but trying to make juggle all that to please everyone, is really unessary, especially when it's mashed potatoes, it doesn't matter how their made as long as their made good and edible. Just because i like something that may be of great quality, i much rather stick with what works for me, and i'm glad people like you are trying to let people like me be honest with themselves and their interests.

  • @liveac3694
    @liveac3694 23 дні тому +4

    Sees video: Oh Linkara is covering the Moomin comics. Wierd but awesome.
    Sees start of video: Oh not the comic? So the anime then? Or the books?
    Keeps watching: Not that either? The live action Moomin perhaps?
    5 minutes later: Hold on... 1970:s stop motion Moomin from Poland actually exists?
    This has to be the most obscure content ever covered on this show. I grew up with Moomin and I've never even heard of this.

  • @kallazjopatsu6846
    @kallazjopatsu6846 25 днів тому +3

    Linkara should have a look at how freaky yet fun the 90's moomins were when he has time.
    Because several moments (atleast for the 90's generation of Finnish kids) traumatized people for decades.

  • @Barracius
    @Barracius 25 днів тому +4

    I watched the Moomins cartoon show as a kid. I definitely remember enjoying it. I think I watched it around the same time as I was also watching Power Rangers. So even though I haven't seen *this* movie, it was still a nice nostalgia-adjacent feeling. A few references to things I remember mentioned in the show, things like that.

  • @justanotheranimeprofilepic
    @justanotheranimeprofilepic 25 днів тому +4

    15:55 thank you linksano! As someone who lived near a lot of rivers anyone who follows that advice is going to be incredibly confused the first time they run across a moss covered tree
    17:04 you're actually more correct than you'd think. Controlled burns actually help so when an uncontrolled forrest fire happens it doesn't spread

  • @eriksieurin334
    @eriksieurin334 24 дні тому +2

    There was a first edition of Comet in Moominland. Then Tove Jansson made a comic about it, "Moomin and the end of the world", with a different story. Then there was a second edition of the novel. Then Tove used the story in the daily comic strip she drew, changing it again. Then the story was used in god knows how many animated variants, including this one. Then there was a new comic version drawn by somone else (I wanna say Mårdön Smed, but I'm not sure). Anyway, I think this is the Moon storyline with the most versions out there. (I can have mixed up the order of some of these). Tove loved disasters in the stories contrasted with everyday life, and this is perhaps the best realized one. Anyway, this as many of the others have changed things a lot. I haven't seen it before and it was fun to see your review of it.

  • @Rixec2
    @Rixec2 25 днів тому +6

    Man, now I'm in the mood to rewatch LOTR.

  • @danielbrant6740
    @danielbrant6740 24 дні тому +3

    13:06 I was not expecting a Wallace & Gromit reference from Lewis.

  • @sebastianevangelista4921
    @sebastianevangelista4921 25 днів тому +1

    Watching this review while drunk is a trip, man! Also, my mom loves Moomins and the notification for this was a pleasant surprise.

  • @edwardburek1717
    @edwardburek1717 24 дні тому +1

    Believe it or not, this was the first exposure I had of The Moomins - not this movie, but the original Polish stop-motion episodic series. It was shown sometime in the early-to-mid 80's on either ITV or the BBC - can't remember rightly.
    I must say, when you did that "bark was worse than its bite" gag, I was half-expecting a whole chorus of boos followed by Brandon Tenold saying "Hey!! I do that gag, hat boy!!!"

  • @DJtheChaos246
    @DJtheChaos246 25 днів тому +17

    Whenever something that’s supposedly good gets a lot of traffic, unfortunately for me what happens nearly every time is that they demand I check this thing out with their main reasoning being they think specific stuff I like is bad.

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 25 днів тому +2

      I’m really sorry to hear that

  • @mrvalo90
    @mrvalo90 25 днів тому +4

    highly recommend see Comet in Moominland 1992 movie that one is classic one.

  • @Ekami-chan
    @Ekami-chan 25 днів тому +3

    There was a fake-out, that the comet steered away :D and polish "soft moomins" aren't something I have watched, more familiar with 90s anime and its movie of the comet in moominland so this was nice ☺️

  • @EHH246
    @EHH246 25 днів тому +25

    "Unfortunately, he was mostly a follower of Spinoza, and thus was often contradictory and insufferable." I'm guessing Lewis took some philosophy classes because Baruch Spinoza isn't exactly well known by the general public. Hell, I had to look him up myself.

    • @EmperorSeth
      @EmperorSeth 25 днів тому +4

      Right? Thanks for the flashback to a random theology class from over 20 years ago!

    • @AT4W
      @AT4W  25 днів тому +18

      I have a minor in philosophy. =)
      My first college philosophy class was "Modern Philosophy" and Spinoza was the second one we studied right after Descartes. I liked the proposition format of "Ethics..." but dear lord did I find him insufferable and... well, wrong so much. XD

  • @umusuuk
    @umusuuk 25 днів тому +3

    The original story was first made in 1946, and I kinda suspect the whole story kinda deals with anxiety about nuclear weapons. The story was originally released in Ny Tid, a political newspaper, and Tove was generally anti-war.

  • @UltraIsa297
    @UltraIsa297 25 днів тому +2

    21:55 Linksaneo reaction to the comet’s suddenly changing direction is great

  • @EmperorSeth
    @EmperorSeth 25 днів тому +6

    Wow, knowing nothing about the Moomins, I was definitely NOT expecting a children's story version of Remina. Or Majora's Mask, if you prefer.

  • @emilsoderman3691
    @emilsoderman3691 25 днів тому +2

    Awww, i was hoping for the 1954-1975 Moomin comics.

  • @goranisacson2502
    @goranisacson2502 9 днів тому +1

    Something that was such an integral part of my childhood being someone elses completely unknowable thing is amusing, if nothing else. Seeing how what is just ingrained as normal becomes something that someone else has to wrestle with is bemusing, though in this instance he really found something even I don't know where it came from. I grew up on the books, the 90's Japanese animation, and the comic books being drawn at the time (anyone out there who remembers the journey to Misanthropolis?), but this Polish stop-motion was very new to me. Interesting, but not the version I prefer. The Snork with a jaunty hat instead of his twink-hair and glasses just feels... wrong.

  • @Valdagast
    @Valdagast 24 дні тому +2

    The book is a classic. I remember my mother reading it to me when I was a kid.
    If you ever decide to have kids, I recommend the books so much. They're perfect when you're a small kid, and pretty enjoyable for adults.
    That thing you said about an apocalyptic wasteland made me envision Mad Moomin: Fury Road

  • @crouchingmarker
    @crouchingmarker 20 днів тому +1

    One of my childhood trauma memories is an episode of the Moomins where some sort of Snow Queen rocks up and turns a squirrel into ice.

  • @alyhoffman2643
    @alyhoffman2643 25 днів тому +1

    I actually have this on DVD. It's nice to put on as some background noise when I'm working on the computer.
    Here's a bonus joke-
    "They celebrated until it turned out that the comet was only the harbinger of a greater threat- Remina."

  • @tyrannosaurusrhett
    @tyrannosaurusrhett 25 днів тому +1

    I always feel like one of the few Americans with any significant familiarity with the Moomin franchise. I already knew about the cartoon from the 90s. but I've become way more aware of it since becoming friends with some Swedes. There's Moomin stuff all over the place there.

  • @theotherghostgirl337
    @theotherghostgirl337 25 днів тому +3

    24:00 I mean there is an arc where moomin papa flails a gun around to try to ward off the embodiment of death so

  • @edwardscales5503
    @edwardscales5503 25 днів тому +1

    Can we add 'thinks moomins are real' to batman's character traits!

  • @populaarikuriositeetti4306
    @populaarikuriositeetti4306 25 днів тому +2

    Comet is actually allegory to war in Moomin stories. There are many versions of the story but mostly it tells the story of desperation during wartime, when as a family you can't do much about to solve the situation other than wait or hide or...you get the point.

  • @crenfick7750
    @crenfick7750 10 днів тому

    lmao Linkara went IN on the tree gags

  • @twilightman2816
    @twilightman2816 18 днів тому +1

    10:15 Disaster, from Latin "Dis" and "astrum", meaning "evil star".
    The origin of the word "disaster" really does come from the ancient people and their fear of comets.
    and now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

  • @tuomastall5836
    @tuomastall5836 22 дні тому

    Fun fact: Tove Janson and her brother Lars wrote Moomin comic strips from 1947-1075. And those strips go wild places.

  • @TheLadySilverMoon
    @TheLadySilverMoon 25 днів тому +2

    I love the Moomins, when I was a kid I watched the 90's animated series.

  • @dylankersten7873
    @dylankersten7873 23 дні тому

    I actually love that you admit somethings just aren't your thing but still being willing to give it a try with these reviews and be open minded and fair with them. No one can or should like everything but people should be willing to give it a chance when they can. You never know what will be the next thing you didn't expect to like but end up loving. Also it gives your reviews an interesting breadth of scope for both content and reoccurring jokes.

  • @redheero656
    @redheero656 23 дні тому +1

    This whole Moomin thing feels like a fever dream.

  • @VerdantRange
    @VerdantRange 25 днів тому +1

    This just reminds me how there actually is place in Missouri called Humansville.

  • @jamescallanan2443
    @jamescallanan2443 25 днів тому +2

    Is Moomin Trolls' favourite superhero Moomin Rider?

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 25 днів тому +2

    Moomins are so calming

  • @eleigar1
    @eleigar1 25 днів тому +2

    The Jansson family has kept the rights of the Moomins so I think that the characters aren't owned by ABC studios.

    • @AT4W
      @AT4W  25 днів тому +2

      I go by the copyright info on the DVD, which this particular movie's rights might be owned by them while the Moomins themselves are owned by the Jansson family.
      Rights issues are bullcrap.

  • @johnmcclure40
    @johnmcclure40 25 днів тому

    Now we have to go back to the store to get YOU a medal! And we're out of pants!

  • @l0stndamned
    @l0stndamned 25 днів тому +1

    I have only a passing knowledge of the franchise from seeing a few episodes of the 90s show.
    Learning from the comments that this story is war allegory is oddly funny as one of my rpg crew once tried to convince me that the Giff (militaristic hippo-folk) in d&d were moomins who had been exposed to the horrors of war.

  • @oliviawilliams6204
    @oliviawilliams6204 24 дні тому +1

    I vaguely remember this thing from my youth…

  • @RainbyFIN
    @RainbyFIN 25 днів тому +6

    MOOMIN YESS. FINNS ASSEMBLE!!!!! Also, reminder in these dark times where fascists are getting rowdy again, that not only did Tove buzz off from society to live the rest of her days alone on an island with her female partner, but she was also a staunch anti-fascist. Apparently she literally made satirical cartoons about the threat of nazis in the 1930s so yeah, no doubt about it. You can also definitely see the themes of personal freedom, disobedience of unnecessarily strict rules in society and the mocking of overly strict controlling people all in Moomin. In other words; Tove Jansson was a very Based queer anti-fascist. Make 'er proud, fellow Finns (and everyone else)

  • @viktormadzov5286
    @viktormadzov5286 25 днів тому +1

    1:41 Its a different kind of "troll" that the Moomins draw inspiration from, specificly the small hairy big nosed and tailed version that originated from later Danish fairytails.
    Its the same inspiration for the troll dolls that the Dreamworks trolls are based on, along with Hugo the troll and others
    The very first version of the Moomins did look more "troll"-ish with there huge noses. Later on however, the design evolved, most notibly the huge noses terning into the characteristic hippo like snaut

  • @brigidmadden5577
    @brigidmadden5577 25 днів тому +2

    I find the lotr references extra funny as I just got out of the first movie as part of the series rerelease fathom is doing this weekend

  • @ultra6671
    @ultra6671 7 днів тому

    It says a lot when the first time I ever learned about this book was in an Owl House fanfic of all things.

  • @jakarnilson
    @jakarnilson 25 днів тому

    With Max von Sydow narrating, a comet approaching and plenty of meal times, I can't believe there wasn't a clip from the 1980 Flash Gordon.

  • @theextraordinaryeden6352
    @theextraordinaryeden6352 25 днів тому +3

    in the world of moomins, they're all named after their species, apart from snufkin, who is a mumrik

    • @shinigamiphantom1391
      @shinigamiphantom1391 25 днів тому

      Snufkin is a mumrik-mymble hybrid

    • @Painocus
      @Painocus 24 дні тому

      Snufkin is just the English "translation" of Mumrik. I think you are thinking of Joxter/Joxaren/Juksu which is what his father was.

  • @Rebochan
    @Rebochan 24 дні тому

    MOOOOOOOOMINS
    I've lived in Finland since 2019 so I am OVER THE MOON here

  • @Painocus
    @Painocus 24 дні тому +2

    This might be something that was lost over the multiple layers of translation going on here, or was cut for the sake of the joke, but what Snufkin means when he is talking about that he don't believe in private ownership of nature and as such everything "belongs to him" as much as it belongs to anyone else, and he don't need to hoard private objects to have nice stuff he can just go out and look at it and then leave it for others to look at. This is contrasted with Sniff who wants to grab the gems before anyone else does. Moomin is neutral on the issue but leans more towards agreeing with Snufkin because -he has a massive crush on him- they are extra good friends.

  • @MrPointedRovers
    @MrPointedRovers 23 дні тому

    Eurovision and then Atop the Fourth Wall. 2024 is a year of the Moonmins

  • @jediprotector216
    @jediprotector216 25 днів тому +1

    At 18:10, It's fine, it doesn't bother me, it doesn't bother me, it bothers me, it bothers me a lot, and that's one still green!

  • @nanardeurlambda
    @nanardeurlambda 25 днів тому +1

    19:15 it's not a true animated classic if it doesn't have a little nightmare fuel

  • @shadowlinkbds
    @shadowlinkbds 25 днів тому +33

    Well to be fair I know nothing about Moomins either.

  • @carlthejedi
    @carlthejedi 12 днів тому +1

    Good, but weird is exactly how to describe the Momins

  • @arte6261
    @arte6261 25 днів тому +2

    Interesting. I've only ever seen the anime movie version of the story. In comparison it puts more money into atmosphere and a snappier pace.

  • @MoonbeamPony
    @MoonbeamPony 22 дні тому

    "It just raises too many questions."

  • @171QA
    @171QA 25 днів тому +1

    Why do I feel like the people making this movie really wanted to make a LotR film but were told it had to be about Moomins instead. XD