Like the invocate/everlasting aff combo. I hadn’t heard anyone mention that before. It is like demonic grace and dance of the wicked and demonic tactics all together, you stack a ton of crit and become almost unhittable for a few seconds and then most of it carries over for another 15 seconds with DoTW.
5/5 suppression allows you to tag more mobs at once, curses suffer from a diminishing hit % based on the AMOUNT of mobs tagged, not just how many levels higher they are than you go tag 5+ mobs with curses and watch how all you dots start missing on the last mob if you don't have 5/5 suppression CoA does 65dmg every 2 sec + talent 6% = 4 dmg per tick extra @lvl 48 + a tiny bit extra from spell power 1 GCD extra from spell miss or 1.5 sec = 49dmg missed if you did COA or worse if another spell + wasted mana
Stopped by to help out a friend, but STAYED cause its good content! Awesome video Winky! I don’t even play lock in SoD but this video makes me want to.
Going back to this video in phase 3 and still works and is EVEN BETTER now with critting dots. thanks for the help! the only thing i would say is that Dark Pact doesnt really help when meta life tap gives you so much more mana than that so its best not to use that talent
Now THIS is what Ive been waiting for... mage aoe.. meh, hutner aoe.. meh.. but lock..... OH BABY!!! as i was leveling i knew there had to be a way to use meta + aff and you showed me the way!!! awesome!!!
@@winkyhc It's been going alright, hit level 30 and thats helped. My gear probably wasn't as good as yours in the video. I can only take on a few mobs at a time.
Yo thank you so much! let me know if theres any other content youd be interested in seeing on the channel, ill be trying to solo cath with this build and get a vid out on that as well this phase
thanks for watching! id recommend following a mage aoe spot guide or just using it to pull questing routes quickly, if you find anywhere with not very many caster mobs you can honestly farm just about anything
I've been looking for a build like this at 40! I tried all kinds of combinations and love this!! I have to go back to destruction for raids and STV though because dots just are not powerful enough yet and don't crit,. thanks!
Have you tried this to solo farm dungeons? Open world seems straightforward enough but finding a good juggle spot in a dungeon seems like it'd work out pretty well (but I also don't know very much about warlocks lmao)
this build can pretty easily solo SM Cath giga pulls with mob pathing, i can try and get it recorded and show off a bit of solo dungeon gold farming in another video?
I solo SM without any pathing tricks. (improved) Curse of Weakness and Curse of Tongues are essential for their respective mobs. Myrmidon's and Monks are scary as F, CC with seduction as necessary. Required Consumes: Troll's Blood Potion, Wizard Oil, Scroll of Protection, Gnomer Buff. More is always better (spell power increases your life drain and sustain) Arm and Cath can get scary at times, you'll be riding a razor's edge on your sustain keeping up, cloth gear with +armor goes a long way
this might warrant another video entirely, but you can really aoe pull just about anything while leveling for quests. I personally used it to blast quests out really fast and when i found an exceptional grind spot such as the farms in northern arathi / dustwallow murlocs / desolace centaurs etc i would stop and grind for a few episodes of whichever show i was watching at the time haha
@winkyhc running demonic pact and demonic knowledge my fire sp is 250 buffed and my shadow is about 200 buffed, Searing pains still crit for 350 and shadow cleave gives lots of threat, invocation is great for keeping the threat too. But I always corruption three mobs then shadow cleave and just searing pain / drain life if there are stragglers
@@thydevour im absolutely loving that there are so many optioins available for tanking, and its starting to feel like at 50/60 we will have EVEN MORE options haha. If i can tank in SM/DS ill be super happy at 60
Nice video, thanks for that. Would you please tell us, which addons you use? I am especially interested in the nameplate-addon, which shows my dots on the enemies.
thanks for watching! Domino's for action bars, the normal stuff such as questie / leatrix etc etc, classic castbars, ClassicAuraDurations (this is for the timer on dots), modern targetframe, threat plates (classic)
Just got to 30 with R3 drain life and it appears its bugged to not act like R2. It requires standing still to start...this sucks. And....it doesnt show its CD...wtf Scrap that....if you reapply the Master Channeler rune AFTER you get R3 it works.
I need to make a video on this, but any melee focused area with few spellcasters. I would recommend following any of the mage aoe leveling locations as they are generally free of casters and give good level ranges. Personally i get bored of aoe leveling so i like to just giga pull quest mobs in the respective zones haha
sup bartek! i will eventually get around to a new phase update! along with a bunch of other warlock specific stuff through the endgame of SOD. sadly i went on vacation, got covid, came back, and have been playing deviate delight lightly while recovering haha. saving my SoD experience for when i can enjoy it fully
i need to make a video on this, but for now i would suggest if you purely want to grind, follow the standard aoe mage routes for your current level. or giga pull quest mobs and stop if you find a nice uncontested spot to grind for a while
thanks for asking! ill probably have to make a video on this, for right now i would recommend following any mage AOE farming location guide, or questing super efficiently and stopping for efficient farming at any location that doesnt have TOO many caster mobs in the pulls.
at 26, if youre horde you can grind the miners in the south west mine of hillsbrad. if youre alliance id recommend wetlands gnolls, or duskwood worgen, depending on how strong you feel
Right now im running off a full meta / tank BIS list, i have maybe 2-3 items from gnomer. just try to balance stam and spellpower as best you can. im pretty sure you can do a lot of the leveling portions of this build completely naked and with demon armor youd be fine. for aoe farming i run succubus with lash of pain off of auto use, this is because she has the highest melee dps of the pets and you can tap her mana if youd desperately need it when drain life resists or something
I tested shadowcleave, It's not working with invocation. Edit: Just re-logged, Re slotted my runes, Everlasting affliction and Invocation indeed do not work together. Feels like a bug.
I asked the question in the official Warlock discord, and they said the "application" of shadowcleave/searing pain is different than actually refreshing the dot... But still doesn't really make sense to me to not work that way. It's in no way overpowered to make it function that way... QOL if anything. @c
Man SOD is really a nerfed game compared to old vanilla, i remember doing this on my warlock as affliction but really had to be full deep affli tree to get all possible heal from drain life and siphon life T_T
thanks for asking! ill probably have to make a video on this, for right now i would recommend following any mage AOE farming location guide, or questing super efficiently and stopping for efficient farming at any location that doesnt have TOO many caster mobs in the pulls.
id say it depends on what youre grinding, currently im aoe farming mageweave with it on ogres in feralas for 3g per stack of mageweave + some 1g vendorables. I've also started to learn solo SM Cath with this build which seems to be very good for money as well
Domino's for action bars, the normal stuff such as questie / leatrix etc etc, classic castbars, ClassicAuraDurations (this is for the timer on dots), modern targetframe, threat plates (classic)
i should make a video just on this, but for the most part i aoe pulled every quest that i could and when i found a good spot with fast spawns and minimal caster mobs i grinded there for a bit. arathi farms / dustwallow murlocs / desolace centaurs come to mind first
You do not need more than 2 points in suppression ...ever. Nightfall is one of the best talents in that entire tree and dark pact is a pile of shit. Wasting a global for less mana than a lifetap is pointless, You're already using meta (increased return on lifetap) and take 2/2 imp life tap, you have 0 reason to ever push dark pact.
You understand that in SoD you do not need as much hit as classic correct? So no, you do not need more that 2 points into it. To expand, since you're clueless, SoD hit requirement for casters is 5%...for raiding. You're not aoe pulling things multiple levels above you as it's not efficient, meaning , 4% or 2 points invested is WAY more than enough. 10% hit is massive overkill. Nightfall IS one of the best talents in that tree, if you're making a full affliction spec and not taking that you're a moron. The only difference for his "aoe farming build" and a standard affliction spec is that he uses meta lol. Does it help IN meta, no, but you're not always aoe farming now are you? There is nothing special about his spec other than misplaced talent points. The only thing that makes it do anything different is a rune, and at that rate you can still pull 4-5 mobs safely without it if you're not in garbage gear. So I would say it's you who is under educated on the class and the game if you can't recognize any of that. @@Ksantor1337
thanks for leaving a comment, i address in the video why i dont take lifetap and why i take dark pact but thats not everyones cup of tea and i understand that! play how you like
@@driklol do you know how much hit you need if mobs already +3 levels lol? Check some base math :) About Nightfall - if you want to make some wellrounded “jack of all trades” build you can pick any talents you want - nobody will stop you, I probably will take nightfall just to have it for some Hount action, but here we discussing speed leveling/AoE farming build with meta where Nightfall just doesnt work, and your comment just can’t confuse people who are new to warlock, because Nightfalll LITERALLY doesn’t work in Meta. Some1 probably just will do this build to level up these way to 40 and respec to PvE destro and will never ever use nightfall.
@Ksantor1337 Again, you're not pulling mobs multiple levels higher than your when aOe farming, least of all if you're new to the game, do some base math on that. You still don't need more than 2 points, you clearly don't understand hit in SoD.
Are you also running only vanilla spells on SoM to stay true classic and prove a point? Or were you just having a bad day and decided this was a suitable venue for venting?
Like the invocate/everlasting aff combo. I hadn’t heard anyone mention that before. It is like demonic grace and dance of the wicked and demonic tactics all together, you stack a ton of crit and become almost unhittable for a few seconds and then most of it carries over for another 15 seconds with DoTW.
5/5 suppression allows you to tag more mobs at once, curses suffer from a diminishing hit % based on the AMOUNT of mobs tagged, not just how many levels higher they are than you
go tag 5+ mobs with curses and watch how all you dots start missing on the last mob if you don't have 5/5 suppression
CoA does 65dmg every 2 sec + talent 6% = 4 dmg per tick extra @lvl 48 + a tiny bit extra from spell power
1 GCD extra from spell miss or 1.5 sec = 49dmg missed if you did COA or worse if another spell + wasted mana
Stopped by to help out a friend, but STAYED cause its good content! Awesome video Winky!
I don’t even play lock in SoD but this video makes me want to.
Blazzin bobby my man!
Going back to this video in phase 3 and still works and is EVEN BETTER now with critting dots. thanks for the help! the only thing i would say is that Dark Pact doesnt really help when meta life tap gives you so much more mana than that so its best not to use that talent
YES! So i plan on updating this video as well with phase 3 changes, removing dark pact is one of them. and omg IMMO AURA is soooo nice for this haha
@@winkyhcliterally here looking for this comment in case an updated video is coming. Subbed!
@@SamUnhinged i plan on making it after raid tonight
Now THIS is what Ive been waiting for... mage aoe.. meh, hutner aoe.. meh.. but lock..... OH BABY!!! as i was leveling i knew there had to be a way to use meta + aff and you showed me the way!!! awesome!!!
This was great thank you so much for putting out this vid! I'm going to try it on my level 28 right now
awesome lemme know how it goes for you!
@@winkyhc It's been going alright, hit level 30 and thats helped. My gear probably wasn't as good as yours in the video. I can only take on a few mobs at a time.
Ok you got me. Time to level my Warlock!
Thanks for leaving a comment
Amazing video ! Finally, someone who sees the potential of affliction tank warlock ! Is there a link for your weakaura and your addons ?
I dont have a link ill make a community post tho with a screenshot of my addons
Cool video. I lvld my warlock from 25-40 by getting boosted in SM lol
finally got my rune of invocation was damn hard thing to get :D
i love your vids man my lock is OP
yooo heck yea lets go! im glad youre loving warlock as much as i do!
Just earned a sub. Good shit. Nice to see a decent afflic farm spec.
Yo thank you so much! let me know if theres any other content youd be interested in seeing on the channel, ill be trying to solo cath with this build and get a vid out on that as well this phase
Good video! I'd take Shadow and flame on the belt, when you use the shadow cleave, it procs often, big dps increase.
I like this! I also just learned that invocation is not proccing off shadow cleave resetting corruption, not sure if its intentional or not
Wish you had showed your gear too. Having trouble getting this working.
hop in my discord and send a screenshot of your gear!
@@winkyhcTrying to swap it all with +stamina now.
This is fucking brilliant. You've earned a like buddy!
yo thank you so much
Game changing build. I've been farming way better with this build, much appreciated!
yo im so glad you enjoy it!
For as difficult as shadowflame rune was to obtain, the spell was not worth the effort.
agreed haha
This build makes so much fun, good Vid Sir, thanks a lot
hell yea brother
Amazing guide, thank you for the detailed explanation
hey thank you so much for watching!
Hey! Great Video :)
Did u have lvl spots from lvl 20+ to 40 ?
thanks for watching! id recommend following a mage aoe spot guide or just using it to pull questing routes quickly, if you find anywhere with not very many caster mobs you can honestly farm just about anything
This looks fun dude!
shamus!
@@winkyhc Happy to see you pumping out videos man!
Nice video! I’m about to level my warlock alt.
oh heck yea! have fun with it, warlocks are so much fun right now!
I've been looking for a build like this at 40! I tried all kinds of combinations and love this!! I have to go back to destruction for raids and STV though because dots just are not powerful enough yet and don't crit,. thanks!
hey im glad you found it! let me know how you feel while grinding in affliction at 40
Have you tried this to solo farm dungeons? Open world seems straightforward enough but finding a good juggle spot in a dungeon seems like it'd work out pretty well (but I also don't know very much about warlocks lmao)
this build can pretty easily solo SM Cath giga pulls with mob pathing, i can try and get it recorded and show off a bit of solo dungeon gold farming in another video?
@@winkyhc it'd for sure get some views, just about anything solo dungeon related gets views
I solo SM without any pathing tricks.
(improved) Curse of Weakness and Curse of Tongues are essential for their respective mobs. Myrmidon's and Monks are scary as F, CC with seduction as necessary.
Required Consumes: Troll's Blood Potion, Wizard Oil, Scroll of Protection, Gnomer Buff. More is always better (spell power increases your life drain and sustain)
Arm and Cath can get scary at times, you'll be riding a razor's edge on your sustain keeping up, cloth gear with +armor goes a long way
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS IS THE BEST VIDEO I'VE EVER SEEN OMG GUYS WATCH IT UNTIL THE END. YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENS!
cdank isthe best haha
@CDank Whats up brooo
And at 40 (or sooner) put new enchant on that does thorns like damage would be nice
love this!
Subbed keep up the good content
hey thank you! re-flooring the house right now and i have a lot more coming after! lol
What are the best places to farm for leveling?
I think they should be different by 3-4 lvl range, so you wont get any resists...
this might warrant another video entirely, but you can really aoe pull just about anything while leveling for quests. I personally used it to blast quests out really fast and when i found an exceptional grind spot such as the farms in northern arathi / dustwallow murlocs / desolace centaurs etc i would stop and grind for a few episodes of whichever show i was watching at the time haha
Running meta in Gnomer as full affliction, but 3 into improved imp because i love the stamina and fire shield damage increase ;)
How have you felt about snap threat on trash pulls as aff in raids?
@winkyhc running demonic pact and demonic knowledge my fire sp is 250 buffed and my shadow is about 200 buffed,
Searing pains still crit for 350 and shadow cleave gives lots of threat,
invocation is great for keeping the threat too.
But I always corruption three mobs then shadow cleave and just searing pain / drain life if there are stragglers
@@thydevour im absolutely loving that there are so many optioins available for tanking, and its starting to feel like at 50/60 we will have EVEN MORE options haha. If i can tank in SM/DS ill be super happy at 60
@winkyhc if we get immolation aura, I'll be very happy :)
@thydevour i need your talent tree and mob rotation please. I prefer affliction but was losing threat way too easily
Great video. It sounds complex, but in practice it appears to be rather simple. I might give it a go some time.
its so fun, grab meta, grab master channeler, and start just pulling everything haha
I knew I wasn’t the only one!
/cheers friend!
tap tap tap dot dot dot, ty bro
ofc!
Love this video!
I've been sleeping on invocation god damn
Nice video, thanks for that.
Would you please tell us, which addons you use? I am especially interested in the nameplate-addon, which shows my dots on the enemies.
thanks for watching! Domino's for action bars, the normal stuff such as questie / leatrix etc etc, classic castbars, ClassicAuraDurations (this is for the timer on dots), modern targetframe, threat plates (classic)
Looks great, what's the mod to get your status bar in the middle like yours?
dominos i think is what your looking for, its an actionbar addon!
a little less safe then meta but nightfall shadow bolt vollie is another fun way to play this.
that seems like something id love to try out!
Engagement post!
Everlasting Affliction's Corruption refresh will not trigger Invocation. might be a bug
oh snap thanks for letting me know! I'll confirm if intended or not and update future information
Has this been fixed?
Damn warlock stronk!
Whats the enemy health bar addon you use?
threat plates (classic)
@@winkyhc thank you! I've been looking for a good one but plater and Pearl were bugging me
Thanks, nice build.
thanks for the comment!
i main lock, love meta only prob you can get is on life drain resists
agreed, its a huge issue haha
Whats the addon your are using so u can see the dots on thier healthbars?
Threat Plates (Classic) i love it
Just got to 30 with R3 drain life and it appears its bugged to not act like R2. It requires standing still to start...this sucks. And....it doesnt show its CD...wtf
Scrap that....if you reapply the Master Channeler rune AFTER you get R3 it works.
whoa what a strange bug! thanks for letting us know
wish i saw this before leveling to 38 as destro drinking every 2-3 mobs :(
always time for warlock round 2!
I wonder how viable it is to tank dungeons in this spec, looks super fun.
dude its THE udderbull :O
Yeah man, been loving SOD. Going to take this setup to the white spider meat farm for gold.@@winkyhc
Thank you for explaining so a caveman like myself can understand
thank you for watching
hey at what locations do i aoe grind at what level?
I need to make a video on this, but any melee focused area with few spellcasters. I would recommend following any of the mage aoe leveling locations as they are generally free of casters and give good level ranges. Personally i get bored of aoe leveling so i like to just giga pull quest mobs in the respective zones haha
Any update to new phase? ;)
sup bartek! i will eventually get around to a new phase update! along with a bunch of other warlock specific stuff through the endgame of SOD. sadly i went on vacation, got covid, came back, and have been playing deviate delight lightly while recovering haha. saving my SoD experience for when i can enjoy it fully
I lvled just spaming solo SM gy and library xD then cathedral
warlock OP
Where are good zones for doing this for levels? Currently a 29 lock
i need to make a video on this, but for now i would suggest if you purely want to grind, follow the standard aoe mage routes for your current level. or giga pull quest mobs and stop if you find a nice uncontested spot to grind for a while
at level 30 were do you level or the routes? :D
thanks for asking! ill probably have to make a video on this, for right now i would recommend following any mage AOE farming location guide, or questing super efficiently and stopping for efficient farming at any location that doesnt have TOO many caster mobs in the pulls.
im lvl 26 now in p4 on my lock where would i grind exp at thatb lvl solo?
at 26, if youre horde you can grind the miners in the south west mine of hillsbrad. if youre alliance id recommend wetlands gnolls, or duskwood worgen, depending on how strong you feel
@@winkyhc ty also what P3/4 runes u recommend? i got pandemic immolation aura unstavble affliction and soul siphon so far
Can you give a list of 40 gear you’d run
And what demon you recommend
Right now im running off a full meta / tank BIS list, i have maybe 2-3 items from gnomer. just try to balance stam and spellpower as best you can. im pretty sure you can do a lot of the leveling portions of this build completely naked and with demon armor youd be fine. for aoe farming i run succubus with lash of pain off of auto use, this is because she has the highest melee dps of the pets and you can tap her mana if youd desperately need it when drain life resists or something
I tested shadowcleave, It's not working with invocation.
Edit: Just re-logged, Re slotted my runes, Everlasting affliction and Invocation indeed do not work together. Feels like a bug.
agreed, im going to see if i can get confirmation on it being a but or not
I asked the question in the official Warlock discord, and they said the "application" of shadowcleave/searing pain is different than actually refreshing the dot... But still doesn't really make sense to me to not work that way. It's in no way overpowered to make it function that way... QOL if anything. @c
@@TaintPUNCH53 ive been told its being looked into right now as a bug, maybe we will see a fix in a near future patch!
Have we seen a fix on it yet?
Man SOD is really a nerfed game compared to old vanilla, i remember doing this on my warlock as affliction but really had to be full deep affli tree to get all possible heal from drain life and siphon life T_T
best places to lvl up with this build???
thanks for asking! ill probably have to make a video on this, for right now i would recommend following any mage AOE farming location guide, or questing super efficiently and stopping for efficient farming at any location that doesnt have TOO many caster mobs in the pulls.
can i ask to you a PvP build? thanks a lot
yo i was just thinking about that! im not the best at pvp but i heard locks are darn near unkillable right now haha
If you had to estimate, at max level would you say this method gets you in GpH? Or is this more of a levelling method?
id say it depends on what youre grinding, currently im aoe farming mageweave with it on ogres in feralas for 3g per stack of mageweave + some 1g vendorables. I've also started to learn solo SM Cath with this build which seems to be very good for money as well
what addons r u running?
Domino's for action bars, the normal stuff such as questie / leatrix etc etc, classic castbars, ClassicAuraDurations (this is for the timer on dots), modern targetframe, threat plates (classic)
Where did you AOE lvl?
i should make a video just on this, but for the most part i aoe pulled every quest that i could and when i found a good spot with fast spawns and minimal caster mobs i grinded there for a bit. arathi farms / dustwallow murlocs / desolace centaurs come to mind first
Just tried this build and farm at Arathi. Worked like a charm. Will be doing this until 40. Thanks!
@@JustAround31 im glad you have fun with it!
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Have you run out of money on your credit card?
im actually very broke atm yes lol
tab dotting is not aoe. came expecting you to be hellfiring mobs or something..
Imagine being one of the last to hit 40 tho KEKW
not you talking shit from the tidebringer account LOL
@@winkyhc I SAID WHAT I SAID
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this guy is hot
no YOU
no where near like a mage, i can 1 pull that entire area as a mage.
This is true! This video is for warlock players, mages are capable of doing mage things but we here are trying to do something as a purple class
zero aoe skills ok, but aoe farm titel
You do not need more than 2 points in suppression ...ever. Nightfall is one of the best talents in that entire tree and dark pact is a pile of shit. Wasting a global for less mana than a lifetap is pointless, You're already using meta (increased return on lifetap) and take 2/2 imp life tap, you have 0 reason to ever push dark pact.
Your words about supres and about Nightfall shows that you didnt understand the topic or even the game you play.
You understand that in SoD you do not need as much hit as classic correct? So no, you do not need more that 2 points into it. To expand, since you're clueless, SoD hit requirement for casters is 5%...for raiding. You're not aoe pulling things multiple levels above you as it's not efficient, meaning , 4% or 2 points invested is WAY more than enough. 10% hit is massive overkill.
Nightfall IS one of the best talents in that tree, if you're making a full affliction spec and not taking that you're a moron. The only difference for his "aoe farming build" and a standard affliction spec is that he uses meta lol. Does it help IN meta, no, but you're not always aoe farming now are you? There is nothing special about his spec other than misplaced talent points. The only thing that makes it do anything different is a rune, and at that rate you can still pull 4-5 mobs safely without it if you're not in garbage gear.
So I would say it's you who is under educated on the class and the game if you can't recognize any of that.
@@Ksantor1337
thanks for leaving a comment, i address in the video why i dont take lifetap and why i take dark pact but thats not everyones cup of tea and i understand that! play how you like
@@driklol do you know how much hit you need if mobs already +3 levels lol? Check some base math :) About Nightfall - if you want to make some wellrounded “jack of all trades” build you can pick any talents you want - nobody will stop you, I probably will take nightfall just to have it for some Hount action, but here we discussing speed leveling/AoE farming build with meta where Nightfall just doesnt work, and your comment just can’t confuse people who are new to warlock, because Nightfalll LITERALLY doesn’t work in Meta. Some1 probably just will do this build to level up these way to 40 and respec to PvE destro and will never ever use nightfall.
@Ksantor1337 Again, you're not pulling mobs multiple levels higher than your when aOe farming, least of all if you're new to the game, do some base math on that. You still don't need more than 2 points, you clearly don't understand hit in SoD.
you can pull that entire island/3 camps as a regular vanilla mage but congrats on farming 1/4 of that with wotlk spells
Are you also running only vanilla spells on SoM to stay true classic and prove a point? Or were you just having a bad day and decided this was a suitable venue for venting?