Apple's China Problem

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2018
  • It was around 2015 when Apple considered China one of the best markets for growth. And Apple actually hoped the Chinese market would one day be bigger than the US. Because at the time, the Chinese smartphone market was booming and because the Chinese population is so much larger than the US, it made sense that if Apple could become a leader in the Chinese smartphone market, they could potentially make more money from the country than any other. But since then, things haven’t exactly played out they way Apple would’ve liked. Because from 2015 to 2017, Apple’s sales to the Chinese market declined by about 23%. And that was the exact opposite of what Apple expected to happen. So the big question is: Why isn’t the iPhone selling well in China? And the answer is causing some major problems for Apple.
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  • @priyonjoni
    @priyonjoni 5 років тому +548

    Who would have thought China doesn't want to buy anything made in China for American prices?

    • @mike.x456
      @mike.x456 5 років тому +14

      Agree

    • @abdullahabdulaziz
      @abdullahabdulaziz 5 років тому +11

      Hahaha good one

    • @amenodorime5439
      @amenodorime5439 5 років тому +7

      Lmao

    • @DarkwearGT
      @DarkwearGT 5 років тому +4

      apple

    • @skrotosd
      @skrotosd 5 років тому +8

      You must have lost the part of the video in wich the most expensive iphone sold more than the Cheaper one

  • @gothicboulder
    @gothicboulder 5 років тому +1204

    “They can’t make iPhones any cheaper”
    LOL

    • @sanguinedusk
      @sanguinedusk 5 років тому +151

      So you're saying that other companies don't spend on R&D?

    • @KonohasEdge
      @KonohasEdge 5 років тому +29

      @@sanguinedusk only apple has a R&D. No, apple has invented the R&D. ^^
      And all the other manufacturers produces a phone at a cost of 400 Dollars and charges 1400 Dollar.
      They can't be as economical as apple. ^^

    • @HenningGu
      @HenningGu 5 років тому +4

      www.opposhop.cn/products/487.html

    • @markofexcellence5209
      @markofexcellence5209 5 років тому +130

      The profit margin on iPhone is over 60% AFTER R&D costs. Tell me more about how they can’t make them cheaper.

    • @SaintRampalSpiritualLeader
      @SaintRampalSpiritualLeader 5 років тому +49

      @Mark Herbert I don't see neither research nor development... same design, same internals, etc.

  • @medditor3863
    @medditor3863 5 років тому +321

    “They can’t make iPhones any cheaper”
    China: challenge accepted.

    • @scubasausage
      @scubasausage 3 роки тому +2

      So far they havent even come close.

    • @sreelol7376
      @sreelol7376 3 роки тому

      @@scubasausage cuz they don’t wanna sell literal shat

    • @Freddolam
      @Freddolam 3 роки тому

      himym refernece?

  • @benfazio2488
    @benfazio2488 5 років тому +35

    As soon as Apple started making iPhones in China I knew that China would produce their own smart phones and squeezed apple out of the market

    • @chickm1092
      @chickm1092 2 роки тому +1

      ba ba ba stfu

    • @JP-tb8pq
      @JP-tb8pq 2 роки тому +2

      Did Apple seriously think the chinese would give a shit about some American phone? 😂😂😂😂

  • @smileofamac6442
    @smileofamac6442 5 років тому +950

    The first Chinese to watch this with VPN

  • @niek7808
    @niek7808 5 років тому +319

    "They can't make Iphones any cheaper"
    This phone is 350 dollar to produce. And they can not make a 1000 dollar phone cheaper. Wauw.

    • @TMW_ShadowStarr
      @TMW_ShadowStarr 5 років тому +23

      Niekiee and when you consider they stopped including the headphone dongle, that's like $10 right there they could knock off the price. So there are ways to lower the price, they just don't want to.

    • @kcrede
      @kcrede 5 років тому +48

      Yeah its not like they don't have to pay for research and development labor advertisement help paying for development of next iPhone and other products and other factors don't talk about things you don't know about pls

    • @niek7808
      @niek7808 5 років тому +6

      @@kcrede Well it was an s upgrade this year. Like it isnt that you pay 500 dollar for marketing and research and development. No its more like 250 what goes to research and develepmomt. Also it isn't like apple is the most innovative so they could make the Iphone xs easily around 800 dollar. But we all now that way apple make them phones so expensive is because they wanna make a name. Iphone has to be for the riches. It has become more like a fashion thing. Deep in side we all now. You paying for the brand, design and iOS. And its way to much.

    • @Jlnchp
      @Jlnchp 5 років тому +3

      Life don’t work like that, an iPhone cost 700-800€ to make

    • @niek7808
      @niek7808 5 років тому +11

      @@Jlnchp No it isnt. It cost's around 300-350 dollar to pruduce.

  • @lowkeygaming4716
    @lowkeygaming4716 5 років тому +240

    Actually it's not only in China, it's in the entire world, I hope Apple will realize that iPhone's staggering price is starting to be unjustifiable.

    • @lamurcribb985
      @lamurcribb985 5 років тому +5

      Not in their most important market

    • @YTofuable
      @YTofuable 5 років тому +2

      Lamur Cribb - only by protectionism thanks to Trump :)

    • @c0t556
      @c0t556 5 років тому +10

      Yes, so expensive outside of US

    • @GreatSageSunWukong
      @GreatSageSunWukong 5 років тому +8

      Starting to be? Its never been justified

    • @kemargrant
      @kemargrant 5 років тому +3

      @@GreatSageSunWukong Some people are just waking up

  • @Jakegomez48
    @Jakegomez48 5 років тому +329

    Anyone else realize Apple uses a lot of Asians in their ads? I have no problem with it but it shows their focus on the market.

    • @proskill7221
      @proskill7221 5 років тому +3

      My friends was asking the same, i didnt care at the time, but your right, poor apple, overpriced phone,chinese hackers and more $hit

    • @ko-Daegu
      @ko-Daegu 5 років тому +1

      Pro Skill
      Yeah also English rip that

    • @NamNguyen-ep4ef
      @NamNguyen-ep4ef 5 років тому +24

      txny
      At least Apple are deciding to use them, Asians don’t get the spotlight on television or movies ever, especially the men.

    • @Jakegomez48
      @Jakegomez48 5 років тому +5

      Nam Nguyen like i said, i have no problem with it, it’s nice to see diversity

    • @clariecec9101
      @clariecec9101 5 років тому +18

      realize Apple uses a lot of blacks? Whites? Latins?
      Dude its APPLE. They are into diversity.

  • @onewhoisanonymous
    @onewhoisanonymous 5 років тому +276

    I live in China. I originally did not like Apple products, but the Chinese government censors almost everything Western. Apple is a very rare exception. I was forced to buy an Apple Phone because I needed a phone that worked well in China, and in 2013 Chinese phones were trash. It is now 2018, my Apple phone died and I replaced it with a Huawei phone. The camera is amazing and so was the price. There has been so much growth in the Chinese tech industry. It is true, WeChat is the main app for everything in China and if WeChat runs well on the phone, nothing else matters.

    • @brandon_nope
      @brandon_nope 5 років тому +18

      onewhoisanonymous I hope your data doesn’t get stolen.

    • @tonytang1431
      @tonytang1431 5 років тому +34

      @@brandon_nope Your hope is a little bit unrealistic though.

    • @skyMcWeeds
      @skyMcWeeds 5 років тому +47

      actually the moment you go online and do your activities you've already given up your privacy, no amount of security will keep you safe every site or company mines data no matter what sweet words they say.
      if you value your privacy so much stay off the grid

    • @mrmehbob8244
      @mrmehbob8244 5 років тому +7

      That phone lasted you 5 years, sure huwaei is good right now, but in 3 years? Nah, it does not last as long as the iphone

    • @Mo-fh3ob
      @Mo-fh3ob 5 років тому

      @@brandon_nope gtfo isheep

  • @VishalSiddireddy
    @VishalSiddireddy 5 років тому +29

    damn, your videos are amazing, your commentary is so smooth and free of stutters

  • @organicsolution9415
    @organicsolution9415 5 років тому +47

    My heart goes out to these rich companies. Hopefully their wealth will help ease the pain

  • @SS-lp8fu
    @SS-lp8fu 5 років тому +15

    Apple is not a commodity. Their entire business thrives on charging hefty price in exchange for brand. Very capable phones are available in market for much less price. Economy and purchasing power are fluctuating. Apple had created big problem for themselves by growing fast. Stagnation will hit stocks very hard. It does not matter how big you have grown, But what are your long term plans. Apple has tried to solve profit issues b raising prices, good for short term, very bad for long term . Its not walmart where people actually need to buy products. Alot of my friends opted to try android because of pricey apple and are happy with what they have got. Apple has created problems for them selves by growing on weak structure. One big economy hit and company will go away like it never existed. Huge pile of cash won't help either.

  • @jayrjayrjayrjayr8650
    @jayrjayrjayrjayr8650 5 років тому +102

    Simple answer: Chinese built iphones, they know what and how much it cost. They dont want to get ripped. Chinese are smart in terms of money wise.

    • @Mark-uk8wz
      @Mark-uk8wz 5 років тому +25

      @@hanniffydinn6019 It's not about rich or poor, it's about money management idiot. Loads of poor people use iPhones too

    • @obseed3041
      @obseed3041 5 років тому +6

      @@hanniffydinn6019 wth XD
      I can afford apple products but still stick with android

    • @ClasherofWorlds
      @ClasherofWorlds 5 років тому +4

      Hanniffy Dinn well no, android is better than Apple, also Apple phones are over priced, also android are more like cost effective and the android OS is better than IOS, also every OS has their pros and cons just like android and IOS, but android is better, also Apple does not win in terms of brand apart from the fact that you can brag that you have a lot of money to waste on Apple especially since not only that the iPhones are expensive, the accessories, dongles and whatnot are super expensive

    • @secfol5272
      @secfol5272 5 років тому +2

      @@hanniffydinn6019 very wrong old mentality.. most part of asia are capable to have any gadgets they want..poor or rich.. they can eat the same food..

    • @nogo7277
      @nogo7277 5 років тому

      @@HaohmaruHL hong kong isn't + every country is a shithole in it's own special way
      Break a leg in america with no insurance and you'll see

  • @macberry4048
    @macberry4048 5 років тому +50

    Apple spends huge amounts of money on software and their chip team and what people don't understand especially on software it doesn't cost any money to keep making copies of software and their chip team designs chips for fewer than five products. The next thing is everybody who pays attention to technology knows that it doesn't cost more to build a iPhone than it does to make a Android phone.

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 3 роки тому

      It should cost less to make an iPhone because their silicon is vertically integrated

    • @willv88
      @willv88 2 роки тому +3

      @@miguelpereira9859 This is completely ignoring the amount of time and money spent on R&D. It takes time to do an integrated design vs. buying commoditized components and sticking them into a phone.

  • @macberry4048
    @macberry4048 5 років тому +45

    I don't even feel bad about Apple being hustled because they overprice everything. There wouldn't be a market for stealing parts, if repairs where reasonable

    • @IFearlessINinja
      @IFearlessINinja 5 років тому +4

      I agree. If they made components out of bubble gum wrappers then nobody could replace it with a bubble gum wrapper for profit.
      Ever think Apple components are expensive because they are made with quality materials and have incredibly tight tolerances?

    • @zedfifth2833
      @zedfifth2833 5 років тому

      *if repairs were reasonable

    • @erickg3508
      @erickg3508 5 років тому +2

      LOL NO! they make it expensive on purpose. They assemble their phones and computers in ways no one can easily fix them or get any parts. @@IFearlessINinja

    • @IFearlessINinja
      @IFearlessINinja 5 років тому +5

      Erick G Almost, but you’re a little backwards. The phones are high quality and made well. They sell them for the same profit as Samsung’s do if you do your research. The maintenance part is where Apple screws you over for their own profit, as it encourages you to get a new one faster. Otherwise the high quality phone would backfire and people would very rarely get new ones. Not that I approve of it, but that’s why they do it

  • @demetriosb5758
    @demetriosb5758 5 років тому +15

    I mean it’s hard for outside companies to compete in China where almost all foreign companies have to have a Chinese stake in the foreign company in order for a company to sell or produce products in China. I don’t think this is the case for Apple but it’s why smaller smartphone brands aren’t entering China’s market and why only Chinese phone makers are now dominating in China.

    • @j.mk.g7694
      @j.mk.g7694 5 років тому

      Same goes to Huawei, it’s hard to enter US market

    • @EKisPEER
      @EKisPEER 5 років тому

      I can help out. Companies can register as a WFOE which allows completely foreign owned companies to be established in China.

  • @christate3523
    @christate3523 5 років тому +10

    Apple contributed significantly to the fraudulent iphone issue by not allowing proper 3rd party repairs in the first place. This is a big issue considering that in many countries, something like a broken screen can take weeks to get fixed through apple (when not swapping out phone) but would only take about 1 hour through a 3rd party

  • @ratuldeoun7228
    @ratuldeoun7228 5 років тому +3

    I love his videos! First time being early to watch your videos because the other times you always upload when I'm at school. Anyways keep up the great work and make more content. ☺👀

  • @optimumpcyt
    @optimumpcyt 5 років тому +28

    Apple deserves to get screwed over. Iphones are actually made in china and get imported to the USA so the phones should be cheaper in China but they intentionally screw over the Chinese by raising the prices usually by a huge margin. I know because I've been to China several times. For example if a phone is 600 here it will be 950 or 1000 in china. And that's probably an older phone. If it's the latest phone it will be 1000 here and 1300 in china. I often get chinese friends who ask me to buy the phone in America and ship it to them. Even after they pay a heavy shipping fee they still save at least 200 dollars. Apple takes advantage of people in a big way.

    • @whoboo6780
      @whoboo6780 5 років тому +6

      Not only that. They employ slave labor and treat what's basically child slaves horribly.

    • @GreatSageSunWukong
      @GreatSageSunWukong 5 років тому +2

      Yeah maby the Chinese hate apple because they know people who actually work in their slave labour factories and know what they are like and that they are screwing people over, its not new they did the same with ipod and imacs awful company, theres other companies that have gone down badly in china like Microsoft, another slave labour user that's caused workers in its xbox plant to suffer respiratory disorders and even had an explosion that killed workers.
      The Chinese are not stupid, I think they know people like foxconn are bullshitters, I think what really pisses them off is companies claiming they are not slave drivers paying people pennies a day to justify extremely over priced products, if something is made by slave drivers but they charge £50 you get what you pay for your choice.
      But if something is made by slave drivers who try to hide it and charge £500, well they can get lost.

    • @xmark1440
      @xmark1440 5 років тому

      The pricing in China is actually tax. Just so you know.... even if it’s made in China, it is still taxed because it’s an foreign manufacture’s product.

    • @GreatSageSunWukong
      @GreatSageSunWukong 5 років тому

      Sweet Zongzi in the UK everything is taxed and the Americans still want to charge us stupid money, if something is 500 dollars they will say it will be £500 or more here, even with brexshit our currency is still worth more than the dollar but they try to pretend its not. In UK Apples latest phone is currently £999.99p

    • @xmark1440
      @xmark1440 5 років тому +1

      Sun Wukong The tax goes to the British government, not US.
      For China, a iPhones are so expensive partly due to import tax taken by the Chinese government.

  • @Overkillz25
    @Overkillz25 5 років тому +2

    This was such a well put together video! I love scandals lol. You’ve got a subscriber, buddy!

  • @ansonhu8795
    @ansonhu8795 5 років тому +117

    When you open an Apple phone in China a little green android man will show up when booting

    • @hellacia8151
      @hellacia8151 5 років тому +10

      Android is better than ios lol

    • @sprite8666
      @sprite8666 5 років тому +2

      Heck no

    • @down2006
      @down2006 5 років тому

      ok? how is that relevant...

    • @ansonhu8795
      @ansonhu8795 5 років тому +1

      Hellacia WOOOOSH

    • @M461Cfs
      @M461Cfs 5 років тому

      I feel all Chinese people has an iPhone like they have to have it lol

  • @davinjohnson1110
    @davinjohnson1110 5 років тому +4

    This was nothing short of amazing!! You’re awesome Greg

  • @racksityentertainment
    @racksityentertainment 5 років тому +2

    Love your videos!
    Does another channel like this exist (google explained? Samsung explained? Givenchy explained?)

  • @StarkeksLP
    @StarkeksLP 5 років тому +2

    "and they can't make iPhones any cheaper"
    straight bullshit since a base model Xs has a profit margin of about 500 dollars
    apple just doesn't want to give up this margin

  • @PeakTimeRacing
    @PeakTimeRacing 5 років тому +65

    Love your channel! You are killing it!

  • @DrTexas
    @DrTexas 5 років тому +9

    Fraudulent returns would it be a problem if Apple wasn't against right to repair.

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 5 років тому +1

    Very well researched. Glad, I found this video.

  • @robinhai1395
    @robinhai1395 5 років тому +67

    You can make this same video on india as apple smartphone shares are declining there..

    • @felipe367
      @felipe367 5 років тому +4

      Robin Hai India seems to go out of their way to half iPhone sales... The amount of opposition by the government towards Apple is real bad..

    • @gauravbhandari732
      @gauravbhandari732 5 років тому +28

      Actually everyone in india loves apple brand but its so much costlier here. The thing is in india there are not carrier related schemes. You have to buy the phone by paying full amount. Now consider this, Iphone Xs which is supposed to be $1000, ends up beings $1400. Dont even ask for full jacked up Xs max crossing over $2200. So its just people dont want to spend that much. The note 9 which should cost $1000, retails for $800-$900 here that too with bundled with goodies like earbuds, wireless charger, full year insurances and much more. Also declining rate is because iphones tend to last longer than android counterparts so a person who has spent full money to buy iphone, is potentially not a customer for next year’s upgrade.

    • @gauravbhandari732
      @gauravbhandari732 5 років тому +10

      And also people import it from dubai and other countries by asking friends n family. Coz it costs almost a return ticket from dubai, a 2-3 day decent stay plus the phone itself for the retail price here in india.

    • @clariecec9101
      @clariecec9101 5 років тому +2

      Everyone wants a real iPhone, but not everyone can afford it.
      What next? You're gonna suggest he makes a video how iPhone sales are declining in Somalia?
      idiot.

    • @seniorwasabi8965
      @seniorwasabi8965 5 років тому +6

      @@clariecec9101 I don't want a real iPhone, but I can easily afford it.

  • @Fritha71
    @Fritha71 5 років тому +4

    Apple, here's my advice: use Chinese hands to assemble the devices if you absolutely must, but take a huuuuge step away from the Chinese market. It will only cause you plenty of headache in the long run. Your values will never mesh with those people...

  • @GarethPW
    @GarethPW 5 років тому +39

    Find some new music, please.

  • @complaincentral8372
    @complaincentral8372 5 років тому +1

    Love you’re channel!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @kozmonito4474
    @kozmonito4474 5 років тому +52

    Roses are red
    Violets are blue
    This is cool
    And so are you

  • @enderwang2933
    @enderwang2933 5 років тому +5

    I was wondering you would talk about the addiction of Chinese children of iPhones. lol

  • @sleepy4ordaze106
    @sleepy4ordaze106 5 років тому +58

    All they need to do is REDUCE THE PRICE, JUST REDUCE IT PLEASE

    • @ChristopherKendalls
      @ChristopherKendalls 5 років тому +3

      Never

    • @chawrakaxom559
      @chawrakaxom559 5 років тому +3

      @Angus's Fuzzy Blogs so why is Apple wanting to increase it's sales?

    • @edwardhoffenheim3249
      @edwardhoffenheim3249 5 років тому +1

      @@chawrakaxom559 They want there phones in the hands of people with a certain minimum income 👌

    • @edenlevi9877
      @edenlevi9877 5 років тому +1

      Nahh mate, iPhone is not for everyone.

    • @fatgamer5629
      @fatgamer5629 5 років тому +2

      From 1499 to 1498 lol

  • @zade9786
    @zade9786 5 років тому

    Amazing quality as always

  • @supremacy98
    @supremacy98 5 років тому +2

    Wait if a survey from youtube appears before a video, do u still get ad revenue? Or is it called survey revenue

  • @dawnmoon90
    @dawnmoon90 5 років тому +11

    Simple, China's late to tech, they are not attached to the Apple brand nearly as much as the west, who many grew up with Apple products.
    You can argue about features and pricing point all you want, but most iphone users would buy iphones regardless of how much is costs or if it lacks feature that android phones already have.
    And there's just not enough of those loyal Apple fans in China, not nearly as much as the west for the reason I mentioned.

  • @rayharris2322
    @rayharris2322 5 років тому +6

    The Appo... lmao can't be a coincidence

    • @coclife9054
      @coclife9054 5 років тому

      Ray Harris Appo=Apple yes You’re right

  • @tangomoon111
    @tangomoon111 5 років тому

    Love the channel and so interesting content.

  • @donkeykong516
    @donkeykong516 5 років тому +1

    We are also wondering IPhone’s value & functionality in the US

  • @nguyendinh3338
    @nguyendinh3338 5 років тому +75

    WeChat reminds me of the College Humor sketch about the app that does everything poorly. Not implying that WeChat is a bad app.

    • @HenningGu
      @HenningGu 5 років тому +4

      It's Mini programs are actually better than the real apps

    • @skyMcWeeds
      @skyMcWeeds 5 років тому +8

      its actually pretty crazy almost everyone that has a smartphone in China uses WeChat
      back then while the west was still trying to implement Google Wallet and Apple Pay, China has already gone cashless with mobile payments

    • @markofexcellence5209
      @markofexcellence5209 5 років тому +8

      WeChat really is an awful app.

    • @hgos7211
      @hgos7211 5 років тому +14

      WeChat in China is an entirely different app. The international version has practically no features.

    • @rtgtx
      @rtgtx 5 років тому +9

      Wechat is 10 times better than Facebook and Twitter combined together.

  • @achman2621
    @achman2621 5 років тому +13

    As someone who lives in China, I think Apple's main problem is about the price, how do you sell an iPhone for about $1800 in a country where it's manufactured and expect sales whiles there are dozens of options out there for consumers and very cheap compared to the prices iPhone offers. Secondly, since most of the foreign URLs have been blocked, you only use whechat and some few apps and I personally don't think the price is worth it.

    • @overknight5278
      @overknight5278 5 років тому +2

      well apple doesnt care, they know there are other phones. And they know a lot of people will still buy their expensive phones. So why get upset? (Not trying to be a dick its just, its a specific market. Like the XR, which is so expensive, and pretty much only the internals are great, while the screen has the same resolution as the iphone 4s)
      Plus i mean, at least you guys get great options like Hauwaii, we have to get them imported

    • @Callusny
      @Callusny 5 років тому +4

      His comment didn/t suggest that he was upset, he literally just said the phone is too expensive

    • @kaym7704
      @kaym7704 5 років тому +1

      I’m pretty sure China charges apple a very heavy import duty and tax fee that drives up the price. Their goal is to make some money and encourage locals to buy local brands.
      Blame the government for the higher price.

  • @frostmelody
    @frostmelody 5 років тому +1

    they wont let me swap out a phone in australia now have to keep taking in for repairs and its already been 3 times this year

  • @BBBBEEEEAAAAFFFF
    @BBBBEEEEAAAAFFFF 3 роки тому +1

    Do you include sources for your videos?

  • @notincognito4660
    @notincognito4660 5 років тому +9

    So Apple's answer was just to increase the price dramatically.😂

  • @alinn.4341
    @alinn.4341 5 років тому +5

    Sales declining because apple products are old news.... people are getting smarter and don't fall for that "uuu you have an Iphone, you're special" kind of advertising... Its good for grannies and atechnical gurls

    • @rub23n
      @rub23n 5 років тому

      @Angus's Fuzzy Blogs Hey man. How long did you use the Note 9? As an experiment, I switched to a S9+ a month ago after 9 years of iOS. After like 2-3 weeks I decided I will move back lol. Now I got adjusted to the Samsung but I will still buy an iPhone X or 8+ and use both Android and iOS for a while.. and probably end up selling the Samsung once I put my hands on the iPhone lol

    • @kaym7704
      @kaym7704 5 років тому

      It’s been awhile since I’ve been on android. I got tired of waiting for updates and when it got them, they slowed down my phone so much. At least with iOS it’s better, but who knows , maybe I’ll go back some day.

  • @k9offroad
    @k9offroad 5 років тому

    Very insightful video my friend! Great job!!

  • @eugenelim6203
    @eugenelim6203 5 років тому

    6:50 huaqiangbei is not located in hongkong. its located within shenzhen, china where apple store is located

  • @spencercarruth9706
    @spencercarruth9706 5 років тому +5

    I hope you know that the server microchip story you were thinking about covering is highly disputed and is flagging towards being made up?

  • @NeiradTheGoat
    @NeiradTheGoat 5 років тому +3

    Except Vivo nex and oppo

    • @jeromealday614
      @jeromealday614 5 років тому +1

      Trashy phones ( came from my experience) but the price is good though.

  • @levanceland
    @levanceland 5 років тому +1

    6:19 damn that is some chess playing right there

  • @CO8848_2
    @CO8848_2 5 років тому +1

    I had the Oppo r9s. It's better than the iPhone experience. My dad took it, I still miss it, now that I am rocking a Samsung s9+.

  • @mrj3222
    @mrj3222 5 років тому +10

    Chinese people like andriod more😂😂

    • @bryanabrego610
      @bryanabrego610 5 років тому +1

      MR J they don’t even buy android phones, they buy the knockoffs lmao

    • @iam_robbie_lol8
      @iam_robbie_lol8 4 роки тому

      Except tablets. iPad is very popular and best-selling tablet in China.

    • @ruiyang626
      @ruiyang626 3 роки тому

      They are still android

  • @noobz4hire290
    @noobz4hire290 5 років тому +12

    If Apple wants to stay competitive then they will have to make cheaper phones.

    • @sydus81599
      @sydus81599 5 років тому +3

      Not if the majority of people in North America keep following other sheep rather than thinking for themselves. At this point they can charge anything they want, there will however come a breaking point when their usebase finally says enough is enough

    • @anton7591
      @anton7591 5 років тому

      @@sydus81599 probably will happen when apple charges 5000 usd for the "latest" and "greatest"

    • @alwaysdrunk5461
      @alwaysdrunk5461 5 років тому

      Noobz4Hire they don‘t have to. They have enough money and no one is forced to buy their products

    • @haydeezz
      @haydeezz 5 років тому

      well.. for me as a havy user i will not buy an iphone even if wil cost 100 dolars.. i`ll prefer more android than the ios.. actualy ios i find it someting familiar to java phones .. old phones. useless in a big part.

  • @timd853
    @timd853 5 років тому +1

    Explain the Supermacro in detail!!!!!! Thanks

  • @Ilikeminecraft57
    @Ilikeminecraft57 2 роки тому +1

    I'm really digging all this Tim Cook b-roll

  • @motivationinspiration7526
    @motivationinspiration7526 5 років тому +25

    Make a video about apple in India and why they are not growing

    • @yangxiang9289
      @yangxiang9289 5 років тому +9

      its way too expensive for Indian because of the tax, also Indian people on average earn less than Chinese people , so it just don't make sense to buy apple while cheap and durable Chinese phone are all over India

    • @motivationinspiration7526
      @motivationinspiration7526 5 років тому +4

      @@yangxiang9289 I know but it's too expensive comparing with samsung and other brands all iphone cost more than 30 to 40% compare to us

    • @mbaha5196
      @mbaha5196 5 років тому +1

      Akshay kumar iPhone being expensive is indian government's fault, not apple...because iPhone is already expensive and Indian government adds 20,000 rupees as tax to iPhone which makes it too expensive

    • @motivationinspiration7526
      @motivationinspiration7526 5 років тому +1

      @@mbaha5196 its not govt fault they r promotion make in india .Other company r taking part in it for eg take samsung biggest compitition for apple they are making it in India that why there flagship phone i.e note 9 is the cheaper than iphone XR by $120 (₹9000)

    • @motivationinspiration7526
      @motivationinspiration7526 5 років тому

      @Anish Krishna Krishna iphone are manufactured in India but all the outdated models i.e iphone se and iphone 6s plus not the latest one

  • @cooliipie
    @cooliipie 5 років тому +49

    *Because they are tech savvy and they know Android is better.....*

    • @BT_Spanky
      @BT_Spanky 5 років тому

      Hahahahaha that’s so stupid that it’s hilarious

    • @tuna1546
      @tuna1546 5 років тому

      its ligit not just android users who do that... and dont even say that android do things like this first all the time... because thats false. ive seen plenty of Iphone users do this same thing as well.

    • @bryanabrego610
      @bryanabrego610 5 років тому

      Tech savvy? They literally buy iPhone knockoffs lmao

  • @JacksonMcCauleylifts
    @JacksonMcCauleylifts 5 років тому +1

    Nice vid 👍

  • @Cal3sty
    @Cal3sty 5 років тому +1

    Very well researched, I live in China and can approve that all the facts in this video is correct

  • @brandon_nope
    @brandon_nope 5 років тому +26

    Huawei is not pronounced wow-way 😆
    It’s pronounced wah-way

  • @tony79640
    @tony79640 5 років тому +24

    China's consumers are much smarter than U.S.A consumers. The exact same reason China consumers don't buy the iPhone are the same reason that U.S.A shouldn't buy the iPhone. iPhone's don't have the features of Android but are more expensive. The U.S.A consumers for some reason like iMessage and Facetime. The two worst messaging apps. Android has 80% of the worlds market share that means those apps don't work with 80% of the worlds smartphones. Who the heck uses a communication app that doesn't work with the most smartphone. Not so bright U.S.A Apple users. Every single other communication app works perfectly with 100% of smartphones.

    • @tony79640
      @tony79640 5 років тому +4

      I can't I have an Android phone. iMessage doesn't work well communicating with Android phones. That means it doesn't communicate well with 80% of phones well. So a communication app that doesn't communicate well is worthless. There is no reason to use iMessage. It is broken at its core. If you have gotten a message from an Android late or not at all. If a group message is broken up because of an Android user. It isn't Android fault it is 100% iMessage. If you use any other messaging app the all work perfectly between iPhone and Android. iMessage is the only messaging app that doesn't. It is the most broken messaging app. Stop using it. It doesn't work with most phones

    • @Onepunchmeme1
      @Onepunchmeme1 5 років тому

      @Anish Krishna Krishna bro that's bull shit in this day in age. Most. People in the US use contacts with monthly payments on their phones. So are you saying that most people can't afford 25 bucks a month or so.

    • @jinxd511
      @jinxd511 5 років тому +2

      you know that USA phone market share isnt 80% android right?
      its more likely 60% apple and 40% android or even more
      so it makes sence to ahve apple since its more stylish and cheaper in usa.

    • @kvnma
      @kvnma 5 років тому

      @@jinxd511 he did say 80% of the world market though, not 80% of the US

    • @jinxd511
      @jinxd511 5 років тому

      Exactly but he refers to Americans.
      Why would an american want to communicate on a daily basis with someone from China basicly.

  • @user-fw3eg3hr6j
    @user-fw3eg3hr6j 2 роки тому +1

    我位于中国,在2018年期间做过苹果销售,我可以很明确的说18苹果为什么卖不好,因为华为手机当时在中国太热销了,热销到什么程度?每周都能遇到想来我店里买huawei的用户(当时华为p20的宣传广告就挂在商场大门口)

  • @bloblyblo
    @bloblyblo 5 років тому

    What do you mean by iphone doesnt support alipay and wechat pay? Even the mini program works at iphone

  • @Chinix
    @Chinix 5 років тому +5

    I mean they really don't need apple lol. They have plenty of other choices like huawei, oppo, xiaomi. Even I(not from China) don't see a point of buying apple overpriced stuff

  • @thenicksterd2334
    @thenicksterd2334 5 років тому +34

    What if apple buys google?

    • @jaisejacob4516
      @jaisejacob4516 5 років тому +4

      TheNickster D then Apple With have no competition

    • @notneb-jx1og
      @notneb-jx1og 5 років тому +30

      I'd buy a Windows phone

    • @jayyy01
      @jayyy01 5 років тому +8

      Wouldn’t that mean Apple would buy Android!?

    • @miafarkas1752
      @miafarkas1752 5 років тому +18

      @@jayyy01They wouldn't really be able to own Android 100%, since Google doesn't own it either, because its base is open source.

    • @abhijitgojara7518
      @abhijitgojara7518 5 років тому

      😂😂😂joke

  • @48set
    @48set 5 років тому +1

    Great an interesting video

  • @johnredberg
    @johnredberg 5 років тому +1

    Props for the Robert Mueller cameo. Yeah, some people follow tech _and_ politics. ;-)

  • @12-coretrashcan34
    @12-coretrashcan34 5 років тому +15

    Just remove WeChat from the App Store and Play Store.

    • @cynmaitra3888
      @cynmaitra3888 5 років тому +1

      Well that’s never gonna happen

    • @faxmachine5306
      @faxmachine5306 5 років тому

      Well that isn’t possible

    • @wanwenhuan
      @wanwenhuan 5 років тому +1

      That is like removing your SMS, phone app, email, facebook, credit card, online food ordering app and anything and everything from a phone. If someone ever does that, that phone will be useless.

    • @whoboo6780
      @whoboo6780 5 років тому

      Apple doesn't even deserve WeChat :)

    • @coraliedeng5803
      @coraliedeng5803 5 років тому

      yeah u do that, and the apple sale in china will probably down to ZERO, and...very fast... lmao

  • @tomaslajara2689
    @tomaslajara2689 5 років тому +3

    I think the issue is that in China there’s no such thing as copyright laws, so when an American company like Apple or google or what ever comes up with a new Idea, other crappy companies in China copy it like nothing🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @jeffyu4972
    @jeffyu4972 5 років тому

    Great analysis

  • @josecarlosxyz
    @josecarlosxyz 5 років тому +1

    This channel should be officially recognised by Apple. The guy voice is almost the same of Jony Ive and the music is so good that Steve Jobs would subscribe this.

  • @stefanwagener
    @stefanwagener 5 років тому +5

    An additional issue is that an Apple iPhone was something special some time ago. Nowadays the young generation considers iPhone users as the "old" generation people. It is not that fashionable any longer and it is not a major goal of the young generation any longer to be able to purchase an iPhone.

    • @overknight5278
      @overknight5278 5 років тому +4

      Stefan Wagener bro, every highschool, middle school, and college is mostly iphones.
      I havent seen a lot of X’s, but recently ive been seeing a lot more X and XS iphones.
      Everyone buys iphone
      Iphones are still the most fashionable devices.
      Its literally only Iphone or Samsung. And even then its mostly iphones.
      Its very rare to see someone with an android, and everyone is shocked when i tell them i only like the iphone, not the mac, or anything else. B/c everyone likes apple. Its a “status” symbol really
      Maybe in other countries but now a days in the states, its mostly iphones you see in the streets.

    • @rub23n
      @rub23n 5 років тому

      recent study made in the US: 84% of teenagers (16 yo) would buy iPhones. Went up from 82% in the spring of this year

    • @kaym7704
      @kaym7704 5 років тому

      That’s your opinion, here all the young kids use apple. I only see older folks with androids.

    • @stefanwagener
      @stefanwagener 5 років тому

      @@rub23n I was referring to the China market, which was the content of the video. I was not referring to the US market.

    • @stefanwagener
      @stefanwagener 5 років тому

      @@overknight5278 Sorry, it looks like I didn't make it clear that I was referring to the China market which is what this video was about. It was related to the observations I made in China. For US I know that Apple has the biggest market share compared to all other regions in the world. And Samsung is popular in many regions in the world, but not in China. Samsung has a market share of something like 2%!!! in China.

  • @donovanwallace1449
    @donovanwallace1449 5 років тому +3

    Apple is its own problem.

  • @JavaCake
    @JavaCake 5 років тому +1

    When I first heard WeChat I thought you said Wii Chat XD

  • @91_C4_FL
    @91_C4_FL 5 років тому

    But how will the XR sell in China?

  • @IReapZz95
    @IReapZz95 5 років тому +3

    That warranty claims scam was an amazing idea by the chinese, props to you guys

  • @dylankerner36
    @dylankerner36 5 років тому +3

    Early

  • @GeebyTeenyBooper
    @GeebyTeenyBooper 5 років тому +2

    I’ve been subscribed to this UA-cam channel before 1 million #roadtoonemillion

  • @RJ-jh9fs
    @RJ-jh9fs 5 років тому

    Malaysia the same.i have been a few times and rarely saw an iPhone.

  • @FalbereChan
    @FalbereChan 5 років тому +6

    Oppos suck tho. Speaking as a Chinese.
    They are unreliable and cheap plastic

    • @yangyuan7219
      @yangyuan7219 5 років тому

      Falbere! 想想one plus就是换壳oppo哦

    • @FalbereChan
      @FalbereChan 5 років тому

      @@yangyuan7219 但是 one plus 質量真的挺不錯啊,我用過

    • @akanopoi6177
      @akanopoi6177 5 років тому

      @@FalbereChan 想换手机,最近在等小米 MIX 3 , 有点心动

    • @user-bt2kt7od9p
      @user-bt2kt7od9p 5 років тому

      Falbere! 最近蓝绿厂还是慢慢把技术搞起来了的,不能拿以前的眼光看了

    • @johnfrederickudtujan8337
      @johnfrederickudtujan8337 5 років тому

      There’s an exception though. You should look at Oppo Find X.

  • @tthans210
    @tthans210 5 років тому +1

    Why would anyone want a device that the company doesn't let you do what u want with it.

  • @tuna1546
    @tuna1546 5 років тому

    were you using some android pictures? 4:49 xD didnt expect that...

  • @euloversum
    @euloversum 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe you should've talked about the privacy problem apple is having with the Chinese regime as well as the production issues due to forced labour rather than only considering economic "problems"

  • @esbi1972
    @esbi1972 3 роки тому +1

    With the huge profit margin earned by Apple from its iPhones, I think the company can reduce the price of its smartphones. However, I am sure that the shareholders will block such attempt. Sigh!

  • @OfficialRey202X
    @OfficialRey202X 5 років тому

    For the next video, please upload it at a 10AM EDT schedule because I was sleeping for school!

    • @minoena
      @minoena 2 роки тому

      lol

    • @pythondrink
      @pythondrink 2 роки тому

      U wasn't serious when u said this, were u? 😂

  • @AzRon999
    @AzRon999 5 років тому +2

    I have always and will continue to use Android, because a close ecosystem is unacceptable to me. (And I wouldn't even buy any Android phone unless it were rootable.) That being said, on the occasions that I have used friends iPhones, I have noticed how consistently silky smooth and responsive the experience is - something Android can not match (especially after the phone has been in use for awhile). Also, you did not talk at all about cameras, which is a major differentiator between a high and mid level phones.

  • @IReapZz95
    @IReapZz95 5 років тому

    Lower prices?

  • @xqandstuff
    @xqandstuff 2 роки тому

    1:34
    Former Oppo R9S user here. Recently switched to an iPhone X. :D

  • @hanson2328
    @hanson2328 5 років тому

    Previously iPhone has the best Camera in Cell phone market. But not any more and price gets higher and higher.

  • @beyou3015
    @beyou3015 5 років тому +2

    You don’t understand the Chinese market unless you live there for years! It’s not about the cost performance or the cellphone functionalities! It’s the social culture that you wouldn’t understand!

    • @tamago5201
      @tamago5201 5 років тому

      Eric Liang please elaborate

  • @johnabuangalapia2791
    @johnabuangalapia2791 5 років тому

    that;s why I phone move to Malaysia, Vietnam and Indonesia. its a little bit higher on labor but a LOT safer.

  • @HenrikRClausen
    @HenrikRClausen 5 років тому

    Interesting video. But why the mind-numbing background music?

  • @iwantberrys
    @iwantberrys 3 роки тому

    Where is the other video

  • @usernamehyt
    @usernamehyt 5 років тому

    its just the price......thats all there is to it , since huawei mate 20 pro sells around 700-800 dollars in China which competes directly to iphone xs max which 256 gb version cost 1400 , so you see....its just not worth the price.

  • @mustafashahin88
    @mustafashahin88 Рік тому

    Huawei mate 10 pro was and still is one of the most beautiful phones ever especially the blue one.

  • @joseph_wei
    @joseph_wei 5 років тому +1

    iPhone sales margin is about 15 times higher than most Chinese phones. Need I say more?

  • @blacksheepshepherd
    @blacksheepshepherd 5 років тому

    The nail that sticks out the most, gets the hammer.

  • @MrQuipster4k
    @MrQuipster4k 5 років тому

    Idk. All I got from this was that China's device game is well above ours here in in the US. Lol.

  • @xiaria
    @xiaria 5 років тому +1

    I thought it was weird the system made mine be sent to the depot when it was obviously dead! We wanted to replace it instore but no. This makes so much fuckin sense now..