THIS VIDEO HAS BEEN UPLOADED AGAIN DUE TO AN ERROR. Sorry to lose your great comments folks but my weight figure for the BMW Z4 M40i was way off. I somehow managed to find the gross weight rather than the curb weight. So the difference between the Z4 and the lighter Supra is 46 pounds, not 695. Which makes a lot more sense. My apologies.
Thanks for the clarification, Tom. Have to admit I was puzzled as to where Porsche was putting those two NFL linemen in the Z4. :) On the other hand, now I'm a bit puzzled how Porsche was able to build a roadster on the same platform that weighs only 46 lbs more than the Supra coupe.
I watched the last video last upload within seconds of notification, first 👍, and first comment. And now it's all gone 😥. I remember what my great comment was.
@@stephenhendricks103 I was also puzzled. Which is why I triple checked the number. But then last night realized the number I was looking at was gross weight, not curb weight. Ugh.
It is all good. Mistakes happen and you were quick with the correction and did not try to sweep it under the carpet. Keep on with the great videos. I've been watching them since the NYT days and find my self watching when it is cars that I nowhere near to being in the market for.
Yeah, and he did that all day long with enthusiasm for a number of days. Talk about a mental marathon. I was impressed by the Supra, maybe more by Toshi.
Thank you for this thorough breakdown. I have watched a couple videos from other channels that completely discard a lot of information you included about this vehicle. Thank you for your dedication to making quality content!
I also need to thank you a great deal. I was shopping for a new winter car and combing through your older videos. This is how I became a fan I guess. The grown up attack to the subject is appreciated. I bought a Fusion. Not even on my long list and it is a terrific car. My Grandson likes it too... he thinks my 'old cars' are funny.
Nicely done review! The headroom and note on the big guys finding room I do appreciate. 6'4" can be a pia when it comes to sports cars. Fingers crossed on this one.
It's amusing to see the raft of complaints on multiple UA-cam sites from those whose concept of a Supra is based on video games and the Fast and Furious movie franchise. Just because two vehicles share a nameplate doesn't mean one is the ancestor of another. In fact, if one is looking for a spiritual ancestor of the new Supra it's the Toyota 2000GT from 1967, another curvy two seat sports car with an in-line six engine sourced from another manufacturer (Yamaha). As for the fourth generation Supra, it, too, traced its lineage to the 2000GT but even more so from the Toyota Celica, a coupe with a back seat suitable for bound and gagged children, much like the Mustang and Camaro. If anything, the new Supra is a purer spiritual successor to the 2000GT than the earlier Supra. And that extraordinary sports car was an unapologetic Japanese interpretation of a classic British sports car with design and engineering reminiscent of a Jaguar E-Type, a vehicle that Enzo Ferrari called "the most beautiful car ever made." (He wasn't wrong then and his comment still holds.) Tracing vehicle DNA is more complicated than looking at a nameplate. In short, the new Supra is not a 21st century version of a Japanese muscle car from the 1990's. Nor should it be. Ford, Chevy, and Dodge do that better than anyone. There's a reason that Toyota brought along an "86" to the Supra press party. It's a very different vehicle but it is more closely related to the new Supra than the vehicle that once bore the same name.
33 years ago, my family took a trip from Nova Scotia to the DC area. Dad was driving on the I95 somewhere between Alexandria and Richmond. Speed limits were 55mph at the time, and Dad was doing 75. We got pulled over by a trooper. "Where y'all from?" "Canada sir." "Well in Virginia, we drive 55 in a 55, not 75 in a 55." He let Dad off with that warning. :D
The yellow version is gorgeous! I wanted to buy the previous generation Supra but did not have the money at the time. Now, I am ready. Hope to buy one soon!
Yeah, I don't think I could ever buy a yellow car myself but I admire those with the guts to do it. Personally I thought the Supra looked best in that color.
People would buy sports cars if they were priced reasonably. TOYOTA knew that very well and the reason for the partnership was to keep cost down to 50k. As said by Tada.
Toyota is literally one of the largest car companies, in the entire world. They could EASILY afford to make one themselves, at a low price, and sell at a loss AT FIRST. But given how desperate people were for a new Supra, and how desperate they were for Toyota to make something themselves, it would've paid off in the end by being a huge success like the R35 GT-R. Nissan was a company that has been close to bankruptcy several times, and STILL they invested money into making something special themselves, like the R35, and it paid off for them. Now they can sell basically the same car for three times the price. R35's were in the $50-60k range when they first released in 2008 or so. Now R35's, especially NISMO ones, cost nearly $150k from the dealer. Just think about how much money, the R35 alone has made for Nissan... all because Nissan put the effort in. Meanwhile, Toyota's philosophy to make money, was to cheap out and cost cut the most important model that everyone was waiting for.... I hope it comes back to bite them in the ass. The fact that they didn't think to include a manual transmission option for the launch of a Supra...... shows how little they cared.
@@enigmaPL Agreed. Toyota is getting cheap. Even their current cars have some of the cheapest interior materials which is one main reason I stopped supporting Toyota. I do like the new Supra, even though I consider it a Toyota M car, and might buy one used because I don't want to support Toyota by buying a new Supra. For $55k I'd rather spend a bit more and buy a new Camaro zl1 or slightly used Zl1 1le and wait for a supra in the used market if I still want one.
I think this car will have it's niche following. I'm sure it is a blast to drive. And the tuning will be half the fun of owning it. I do however think the C8 Corvette changed the perception of value within the sports car industry. I think the supra will undoubtedly have a tough time convincing the mainstream crowd that it is the way to go.
Looking forward to when these hit the used market. As long as the market believes the mk.IV is the “last true Supra”, I’m confident these will be much more affordable after 10,000 miles on the odo
Great review and I agree there’s much more to like here than not. Even the transmission, if you have to have an auto, I’d be broad consensus among the best. I like the styling and proportions even though fake vents are a pet peeve- I guess you could consider them partially fu criminal as reserved for future use. One thing I don’t get though- is a little over 100hp/liter that impressive for a modern turbo sports car on premium fuel? It sound good and the torque figures good, but that seems a couple dozen horses light to me.
The official German price for the A90 is 62,900 Euros, e.g. 71,173 USD at time of writing (2019jun11). I wonder why a car that is basically German and built in Austria is 30 percent more expensive in Germany than in the US. And imagine - in Austria, where the A90 is actually produced, the car costs 71,900 Euros, e.g. 81,353 USD.
Would you say that the side panel on the left hand side of the console hindered operating the shifter somewhat? If so then I guess we can toss the idea of a Supra with a manual transmission 😣. Unless Toyota redesigns the center console for stick shift models.
1,500 launch edition sold faster than a Space X rocket. Only $15,000 for the special floor mats, now that's optimistic thinking. I think this car is definitely worthy of the Supra name. I bet a good number of the owners gonna modify quite bit of this car.
I think whether people love or hate it should voice their opinions because I'm sure Toyota is looking. I like the car but don't like the name Supra with a BMW engine. I'll probably buy one but used because I don't want to support Toyota by buying new.
What?! A re-post?! I have to re-type my hateful comments about that obscene blind spot? Or my hateful comments about seats that don't slide back far enough/recline far enough to provide comfort for long trips? Sigh... (great review of marginal design..)
this is why i wait for view to be high enough before typing... but yes this is one of the worst blind spot. spoet car owner like me notice right away while seeing video...
Was thinking the same. I was looking over my Z4M roadster the other day and can't help but find some similarity in in size, shape, and form. Even the cabin is cramp and takes getting used to.
I absolutely love your videos, Tom, including this one, but I have to push back a bit on the notion that Toyota, the highest volume auto maker in the world (with expected operating profits of $23 billion this fiscal year), couldn't afford to develop their Supra successor in house. My sense is that they just wanted to keep that money for their execs and shareholders and let someone else do the development work. Sure, the performance is great and it sounds awesome, but there is no way in hell BMW reliability will hold up as well as a true Toyota's would in the long term. A few years and a bunch of miles down the road is when the realization will set in that this Supra is no Toyota.
@@MondernMan Again, I reject the idea that a massively profitable company can't afford to use a tiny portion of those profits to develop 1 or 2 low volume, performance oriented models that appeal to enthusiasts and show what the company is capable of. These kinds of niche products aren't about profits, they are about showing off the company's engineering and design prowess. Toyota knew it would lose money on every LFA it sold, but they made the investment anyway because the finished product showed the world what they could do, which earned them a lot of respect...and sales of their mainstream models went up. Given Toyota's stature in the industry, they are better positioned to do develop these kinds of products than most other brands.
D LG I’d like to point out that even the LF-A’s engine was outsourced to Yahama, and the car’s engineering required resources from Toyota’s F-1 team. What you and a lot of other people are asking for is Toyota to design a sports car from the ground up with resources they don’t already have, designed by personnel that don’t exist, to be built in factories that don’t have the tooling. At that point, it’s not a question of how much Toyota will lose in profits, but how much they’ll lose in shareholder confidence, and in turn the company’s market value, which are far more important than x-billions in profits.
The worst kept automotive secret turns out to be lukewarm on arrival; good, but not great/excellent. I think they focused too hard on (just) the Cayman and restricted themselves too much. They needed to broaden their target scope and lengthen the wheelbase another 2 inches.
This car depends heavily on 3rd party manufacturers which means more cost and money waste, however the predecessor is simple, more reliable and fun. It needs only light head work to reach 800hp
I started a gofundme for this car, anyone want to donate? Lol 55k is a bit pricey but I think they priced it right for the performance you’re getting. Would be happy if it was in the 45k range though.
I just went on a rant in my head..right now..lol..I will try to translate !( so Tom said sports cars don’t make much money these days. and he is right..but why..Ford has gone with all suvs.. good bye Ford Focus RS ..Mazda has no speed 3 anymore..all suv..almost lol..no evo ..all suvs at Mitsubishi..the golf r has just been discontinued at vw.. all suvs..all most..when comes down to it 90 percent of Americans are not into cars anymore.sad it’s just about getting from point a to pot b.. like buying a refrigerator! lol so boring mini suv..with 0-60 times of 10 seconds lol.. and handling like a lawn mower.. is just fine! As long as the 4 kids can fit in the back! Lol ..feww ok I’m done
Lol this car deserves all the hate, it doesn't even come with a manual transmission option! I'm hoping this car has that legendary performance BMW reliability aka back to the dealer again and again and again and again and.....
Now if only the Japanese would outsource car design to Germany as well, I wouldn’t have to look at all the ugly Toyota and Honda econoboxes on the road bere.
This must be the most disappointing car of decade. Toyota means reliability, BMW means not. No one buys a Great yoga to have a BMW. NO ONE. EPIC FAIL. Get a Lexus RC or Lc500. Garbage BMW
THIS VIDEO HAS BEEN UPLOADED AGAIN DUE TO AN ERROR. Sorry to lose your great comments folks but my weight figure for the BMW Z4 M40i was way off. I somehow managed to find the gross weight rather than the curb weight. So the difference between the Z4 and the lighter Supra is 46 pounds, not 695. Which makes a lot more sense. My apologies.
Thanks for the clarification, Tom. Have to admit I was puzzled as to where Porsche was putting those two NFL linemen in the Z4. :) On the other hand, now I'm a bit puzzled how Porsche was able to build a roadster on the same platform that weighs only 46 lbs more than the Supra coupe.
I watched the last video last upload within seconds of notification, first 👍, and first comment. And now it's all gone 😥. I remember what my great comment was.
@@stephenhendricks103 I was also puzzled. Which is why I triple checked the number. But then last night realized the number I was looking at was gross weight, not curb weight. Ugh.
It is all good. Mistakes happen and you were quick with the correction and did not try to sweep it under the carpet.
Keep on with the great videos. I've been watching them since the NYT days and find my self watching when it is cars that I nowhere near to being in the market for.
Driven Car Reviews it's ok, Tom. I'll watch it again just to give you the view count. 👍
I will watch it all over again, your reviews are on point 🤗
you're right Tom, that translator IS AWESOME. Nice video.
Yeah, and he did that all day long with enthusiasm for a number of days. Talk about a mental marathon. I was impressed by the Supra, maybe more by Toshi.
Tom is one of the best in the business! How does he only have 93k subs (as of 2019-05-12). And how did he snag that dinner with the Supra lead?
Wow. Is this post was word for word Python?
Thank you for this thorough breakdown. I have watched a couple videos from other channels that completely discard a lot of information you included about this vehicle. Thank you for your dedication to making quality content!
Still liked it. Even the 2nd time posting. ;)
Love your review. It's now my most favorite retirement car.
haha mine too...even though im only 25...haha
I also need to thank you a great deal. I was shopping for a new winter car and combing through your older videos. This is how I became a fan I guess. The grown up attack to the subject is appreciated. I bought a Fusion. Not even on my long list and it is a terrific car. My Grandson likes it too... he thinks my 'old cars' are funny.
Nicely done review! The headroom and note on the big guys finding room I do appreciate. 6'4" can be a pia when it comes to sports cars. Fingers crossed on this one.
It's amusing to see the raft of complaints on multiple UA-cam sites from those whose concept of a Supra is based on video games and the Fast and Furious movie franchise. Just because two vehicles share a nameplate doesn't mean one is the ancestor of another. In fact, if one is looking for a spiritual ancestor of the new Supra it's the Toyota 2000GT from 1967, another curvy two seat sports car with an in-line six engine sourced from another manufacturer (Yamaha). As for the fourth generation Supra, it, too, traced its lineage to the 2000GT but even more so from the Toyota Celica, a coupe with a back seat suitable for bound and gagged children, much like the Mustang and Camaro.
If anything, the new Supra is a purer spiritual successor to the 2000GT than the earlier Supra. And that extraordinary sports car was an unapologetic Japanese interpretation of a classic British sports car with design and engineering reminiscent of a Jaguar E-Type, a vehicle that Enzo Ferrari called "the most beautiful car ever made." (He wasn't wrong then and his comment still holds.) Tracing vehicle DNA is more complicated than looking at a nameplate.
In short, the new Supra is not a 21st century version of a Japanese muscle car from the 1990's. Nor should it be. Ford, Chevy, and Dodge do that better than anyone. There's a reason that Toyota brought along an "86" to the Supra press party. It's a very different vehicle but it is more closely related to the new Supra than the vehicle that once bore the same name.
33 years ago, my family took a trip from Nova Scotia to the DC area. Dad was driving on the I95 somewhere between Alexandria and Richmond. Speed limits were 55mph at the time, and Dad was doing 75. We got pulled over by a trooper. "Where y'all from?" "Canada sir." "Well in Virginia, we drive 55 in a 55, not 75 in a 55." He let Dad off with that warning. :D
Awesome informative review as always Tom.
Love it, great job Tom!
I so badly want one. Great video.
The yellow version is gorgeous! I wanted to buy the previous generation Supra but did not have the money at the time. Now, I am ready. Hope to buy one soon!
Yeah, I don't think I could ever buy a yellow car myself but I admire those with the guts to do it. Personally I thought the Supra looked best in that color.
Excellent review... Great !!!
People would buy sports cars if they were priced reasonably. TOYOTA knew that very well and the reason for the partnership was to keep cost down to 50k. As said by Tada.
Toyota is literally one of the largest car companies, in the entire world. They could EASILY afford to make one themselves, at a low price, and sell at a loss AT FIRST. But given how desperate people were for a new Supra, and how desperate they were for Toyota to make something themselves, it would've paid off in the end by being a huge success like the R35 GT-R.
Nissan was a company that has been close to bankruptcy several times, and STILL they invested money into making something special themselves, like the R35, and it paid off for them. Now they can sell basically the same car for three times the price. R35's were in the $50-60k range when they first released in 2008 or so. Now R35's, especially NISMO ones, cost nearly $150k from the dealer. Just think about how much money, the R35 alone has made for Nissan... all because Nissan put the effort in.
Meanwhile, Toyota's philosophy to make money, was to cheap out and cost cut the most important model that everyone was waiting for.... I hope it comes back to bite them in the ass. The fact that they didn't think to include a manual transmission option for the launch of a Supra...... shows how little they cared.
@@enigmaPL Agreed. Toyota is getting cheap. Even their current cars have some of the cheapest interior materials which is one main reason I stopped supporting Toyota. I do like the new Supra, even though I consider it a Toyota M car, and might buy one used because I don't want to support Toyota by buying a new Supra. For $55k I'd rather spend a bit more and buy a new Camaro zl1 or slightly used Zl1 1le and wait for a supra in the used market if I still want one.
I think this car will have it's niche following. I'm sure it is a blast to drive. And the tuning will be half the fun of owning it. I do however think the C8 Corvette changed the perception of value within the sports car industry. I think the supra will undoubtedly have a tough time convincing the mainstream crowd that it is the way to go.
Excellent review, you should have more subscribers than DeMuro.
Looking forward to when these hit the used market. As long as the market believes the mk.IV is the “last true Supra”, I’m confident these will be much more affordable after 10,000 miles on the odo
The moving shots of this car have made me fall in love with it. I originally hated it.
Can you actually afford one though 😂
Its much better in person.
This was a great review! You said it all honestly. Conversely the review by Doug DeMuro was pure garbage! Without Supra I wouldn't be master driver!
Great review and I agree there’s much more to like here than not. Even the transmission, if you have to have an auto, I’d be broad consensus among the best. I like the styling and proportions even though fake vents are a pet peeve- I guess you could consider them partially fu criminal as reserved for future use. One thing I don’t get though- is a little over 100hp/liter that impressive for a modern turbo sports car on premium fuel? It sound good and the torque figures good, but that seems a couple dozen horses light to me.
it puts 335hp to the wheels! its underrated and you get 30mpg. not too bad if you ask me for STOCK
I must admit prejudice against the BMW Z cars, something grates me about their look. Now, this SUPRA LOOKS Great!
The official German price for the A90 is 62,900 Euros, e.g. 71,173 USD at time of writing (2019jun11). I wonder why a car that is basically German and built in Austria is 30 percent more expensive in Germany than in the US. And imagine - in Austria, where the A90 is actually produced, the car costs 71,900 Euros, e.g. 81,353 USD.
Wow, when you merge BMW power with Toyota reliability, you get a Supra. This is Genius personified!
Would you say that the side panel on the left hand side of the console hindered operating the shifter somewhat? If so then I guess we can toss the idea of a Supra with a manual transmission 😣. Unless Toyota redesigns the center console for stick shift models.
Not at all. Hope springs eternal.
Looks and sounds amazing! Just don't open the door and look inside. It's a murder scene in there.
1,500 launch edition sold faster than a Space X rocket. Only $15,000 for the special floor mats, now that's optimistic thinking. I think this car is definitely worthy of the Supra name. I bet a good number of the owners gonna modify quite bit of this car.
It is sad they fenced you all in on that go-cart track. You need to stretch that out a bit.
Super hype Supra Lots of love & hate comments from "smart alec" people who is most likely not buying at all Only on UA-cam
I think whether people love or hate it should voice their opinions because I'm sure Toyota is looking. I like the car but don't like the name Supra with a BMW engine. I'll probably buy one but used because I don't want to support Toyota by buying new.
What?! A re-post?! I have to re-type my hateful comments about that obscene blind spot? Or my hateful comments about seats that don't slide back far enough/recline far enough to provide comfort for long trips? Sigh... (great review of marginal design..)
Yup. My mistake is your pain.
this is why i wait for view to be high enough before typing... but yes this is one of the worst blind spot. spoet car owner like me notice right away while seeing video...
@@DrivenCarReviews Love your reviews, keep up the good work...
Hurry up and take my money already!
You'd think that they would've changed the font on the screen graphics.
Really great to see a good looking new sports car.
Is this a re-upload
Yes, I had a weight figure seriously wrong.
This looks quite a bit like a first generation BMW Z4 Coupé
Was thinking the same. I was looking over my Z4M roadster the other day and can't help but find some similarity in in size, shape, and form. Even the cabin is cramp and takes getting used to.
I absolutely love your videos, Tom, including this one, but I have to push back a bit on the notion that Toyota, the highest volume auto maker in the world (with expected operating profits of $23 billion this fiscal year), couldn't afford to develop their Supra successor in house. My sense is that they just wanted to keep that money for their execs and shareholders and let someone else do the development work. Sure, the performance is great and it sounds awesome, but there is no way in hell BMW reliability will hold up as well as a true Toyota's would in the long term. A few years and a bunch of miles down the road is when the realization will set in that this Supra is no Toyota.
@@MondernMan Again, I reject the idea that a massively profitable company can't afford to use a tiny portion of those profits to develop 1 or 2 low volume, performance oriented models that appeal to enthusiasts and show what the company is capable of. These kinds of niche products aren't about profits, they are about showing off the company's engineering and design prowess. Toyota knew it would lose money on every LFA it sold, but they made the investment anyway because the finished product showed the world what they could do, which earned them a lot of respect...and sales of their mainstream models went up. Given Toyota's stature in the industry, they are better positioned to do develop these kinds of products than most other brands.
D LG I’d like to point out that even the LF-A’s engine was outsourced to Yahama, and the car’s engineering required resources from Toyota’s F-1 team. What you and a lot of other people are asking for is Toyota to design a sports car from the ground up with resources they don’t already have, designed by personnel that don’t exist, to be built in factories that don’t have the tooling. At that point, it’s not a question of how much Toyota will lose in profits, but how much they’ll lose in shareholder confidence, and in turn the company’s market value, which are far more important than x-billions in profits.
@@MondernMan We'll just have to agree to disagree...and I do completely disagree with you.
Watched again...no worries
Red is the best color
It's not cheap but similar price with a 3 series. I think i can convince my self to send money in this way :D
i think toyota should have used a V6 Lexus turbo engine than a bmw
So what does this car do in the 1/4 mile?
Car and Driver saw 12.3 at 113 MPH. They also got 0-60 at 3.8.
Driven Car Reviews thank you
The worst kept automotive secret turns out to be lukewarm on arrival; good, but not great/excellent. I think they focused too hard on (just) the Cayman and restricted themselves too much. They needed to broaden their target scope and lengthen the wheelbase another 2 inches.
The markups on these will be cuckoo for a few years. Too bad parent companies can't, don't, or won't limit that.
This car depends heavily on 3rd party manufacturers which means more cost and money waste, however the predecessor is simple, more reliable and fun. It needs only light head work to reach 800hp
I just saw one of these here in Dubai... Wait, sorry that was a BMW. How sad the old Celicas and Supras are much more enjoyable to see and own
The horsepower and torque of this engine is piddly
I think it’ll break down just like a BMW
You're cool.
I'll cough up $55,250 for a Launch Edition! Or pass because I don't want to settle for less.
1. Bad thing. 2. Toyota people don't want BMW junk.
Show us your Toyota.
Its not the Supra we wanted.
The supra we wanted is actually a Lexus rcf
"A true enthusiast" =Rebadges a hairdresser's Z4. Riiiiiiiiight.
I started a gofundme for this car, anyone want to donate? Lol 55k is a bit pricey but I think they priced it right for the performance you’re getting. Would be happy if it was in the 45k range though.
Tuners will but still no GODZILLA
I just went on a rant in my head..right now..lol..I will try to translate !( so Tom said sports cars don’t make much money these days. and he is right..but why..Ford has gone with all suvs.. good bye Ford Focus RS ..Mazda has no speed 3 anymore..all suv..almost lol..no evo ..all suvs at Mitsubishi..the golf r has just been discontinued at vw.. all suvs..all most..when comes down to it 90 percent of Americans are not into cars anymore.sad it’s just about getting from point a to pot b.. like buying a refrigerator! lol so boring mini suv..with 0-60 times of 10 seconds lol.. and handling like a lawn mower.. is just fine! As long as the 4 kids can fit in the back! Lol ..feww ok I’m done
The most unreliable Toyota ever..
You must have never heard of the 2nd gen Avensis 2.2 D CAT diesel.
You must not of heard of the oil sludge issue. I have friends that have.
I payed 10k over sticker and sticker was 55
"Miata x 2" - So, a BMW Z4 ...
Lol this car deserves all the hate, it doesn't even come with a manual transmission option! I'm hoping this car has that legendary performance BMW reliability aka back to the dealer again and again and again and again and.....
We need a simple tunable fun car not s futuristic boring one
It is a great vehicle, but it's nothing like the original.
Now if only the Japanese would outsource car design to Germany as well, I wouldn’t have to look at all the ugly Toyota and Honda econoboxes on the road bere.
Genuine is pronounced gen-new-win or gen-u-win, not gen-new-wine or gen-u-wine.
This must be the most disappointing car of decade. Toyota means reliability, BMW means not. No one buys a Great yoga to have a BMW. NO ONE. EPIC FAIL. Get a Lexus RC or Lc500. Garbage BMW
Well it's already sold out for the year in multiple countries already.....
Carboy Dorifuto party Just the GR editions are sold out. That’s not bragging worthy.
@@85corolla werid cause I keep hearing people say both the gr and normal mk5s are sold out.
Carboy Dorifuto party Not the regular mk5. That’s what happens when a story is passed on from one teller to another. The facts get deteriorated.
Aaah... the BMW Supra generation. BMW = horrible reliability.
Slower then the BMW😂🤣uh... no
Overpriced
First
Not a real supra..!!!! BMW Z4 bullshit 💩