Dodie & Ginger's Toxic Friendship Exposed
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2022
- 🔥 Prepare to have your mind blown! In this eye-opening video, I delve deep into the toxic friendship between Dodie and Ginger on the iconic TV show "As Told By Ginger." Join me as I uncover the shocking truth behind their relationship, revealing how Dodie's relentless pursuit of popularity and acceptance led to a friendship filled with manipulation and betrayal. From backstabbing antics to heart-wrenching moments, we dissect every angle of their tumultuous bond. It's time to expose the dark side of Dodie and Ginger's friendship like never before. Don't miss out on this revealing analysis that will change the way you view their dynamic forever!
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Video Chapters
0:00: As Told By Ginger
0:14 - Ginger & Dodie
0:25 - Not Real Friends
0:43 - Popularity
0:53 - Sell her soul
1:09 - Lice Outbreak
1:28 - Courtney's Secret
1:50 - Ginger's Authenticity
2:31 - Dodie the opportunist
2:54 - Ginger pulls the plug
3:08 - Ginger checks Dodie
3:27 - My Unfiltered Opinion
4:25 - When I Was a Kid
4:40 - Miranda
5:22 - Perks of Being Courtney's BFF
5:41- Dodie is more dangerous than Miranda
6:02 - Ginger's Hairy Legs
6:24 - Dodie's betrayal
6:49 - Ginger's too nice
7:13 - Screenwriting Lesson
7:29 - Healthy Friendship
7:48 - What my character is willing to do
8:08 - Ginger's self-reflection
8:30 - Reminiscing (Old TV Shows)
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When dodie tried to break up ginger and darwin! I hated her after that. I honestly do not care. There was no way to redeem her character. Macy wasn’t shit for going along with that either because what in the entire fuck?! Macy’s not a real friend either for that. Courtney was not the villain they tried to make her out to be. Courtney really did like, admire, and respect ginger. The second she found out what Miranda and Dodie were doing. She called Ginger and let her know what was up. called her on three-way and let them hear the whole plan. Courtney is forever my girl. Fuck dodie!
Yes! Courtney was a real one! Plus she respected that Ginger was always her own person and didn’t follow the crowd. I’m glad Courtney exposed them. Ginger should’ve dropped Dodie & Macy for that. 🎯
Ehh... Macie is kind of like Zoe from the Proud Family, so she probably feels too timid/pressured to speak out even though she knows it's wrong yet it wouldn't be out of character for either Macie or Zoe to regret hanging around with ppl as selfish and toxic as either Dodie or Miranda or Lacienga, or Dijonay and make it up to Ginger or Penny. I feel like even though characters like Zoe or Macie tend to be timid and go with the flow, I also feel like they deserve a little sympathy for having low self esteem and feeling like pressured that they have to stick with their toxic friends.
@@jessicascreenwritingservices Courtney was absolutely Ginger’s true friend among them all. The network did her so dirty in the end. They didn’t even put her in the flash-forward ending scene! Our girl deserved better!
That's part of the show I hated the most! I never was a fan of Dodie from the beginning, she got on my nerves!
@@jessicascreenwritingservices Courtney really gave Ginger the heads up over that? That's nothing that I'd expect from her!
I feel like Courtney was more of a friend to ginger than dodie
So true! Courtney wasn’t fake at all. Dodie was too hungry to be “popular” and almost idolized Courtney whereas Ginger treated Courtney like a regular person.
She was. She really was.
The show did Courtney so dirty in the last episodes and she didn't even appear in the time skip
I mean Courtney was devious and insecure too to a point that affected others but she was also too privileged and didn't quite understood her issues but still tried to grow up and she still deeply respected Ginger
Definitely
I noticed a lot of cartoons from early to mid 00s had awful/toxic friendship dynamics and I guess it made sense given how middle/high school friendships can be so terrible
I know right. It was so accurate unfortunately
You know, you hit the nail on the head. I was coming of age the time this show aired and I remember how in middle school and the first part of high school people who I considered my friends weren’t really so and actually made those years agonizing. It didn’t help that I went to a small school with only like 10 to 12 people in my grade.
I'm not sure if it was portrayed that way to be idealized or so we can form our own opinions about it. I think Macy is still a good friend. Dodie is a toxic friend you will later on move away from, or they learn to be better
@@aeoligarlic4024 I don't thin k it was meant to be idealized at all, I think it was to give some relatability to the show for the young girls watching who may have experienced friends that weren't so great.
So true. I instantly think of Penny's friends from the Proud Family. I feel like they're still bad friends in the new show.
Honestly I loved Ginger as a character. She was sweet, compassionate but also a typical teenager and not below rebelling.
Dodie is the worst. Ginger really should have dropped Dodie as a friend a long time ago, especially during that episode where she, Macy and Maranda teamed up to ruin Ginger's relationship with Darren.
I agree 100%. Miranda wasn’t my favorite either but at least she was never fake with Ginger. She made it clear she hated her. Dodie is worse because she comes off like “oh we’re besties” but sabotages her behind her back.
@@jessicascreenwritingservices True.
@@segastars9802couldnt agree more
That's a really weird episode too. Dodie had previously liked the idea of Ginger and Darren being together but soon as it affected her badly, split them up!
But than, there is never any follow up to the end of the episode. They never speak of talking it over, that words were had or even a apology given after Dodie called Ginger. That's just so weird for a show which had good continuity.
@@Jay-gurl In following episodes Ginger only brushes it off with something on the lines of "let's not talk about it" so it implies even if she didn't forgive Doddie and Macie for what they did, she'd rather have bad friends than being alone. There was a lot to unpack there.
I’m rewatching ginger as a comfort thing, dodie was not given the lice list! She was going thru drawers in the office and took it upon herself which imo makes her WORSE
Dodie Bishop = Dijonay Jones
Spot on! 💯👌🏾
Perhaps Dodie and Dijonay can be GREAT friends to one another.
Dodie is worse than Dijonay
ACCURATE ASF💯
For real they're like the white and black versions of each other. They'd probably make really good friends with each other since they keep trying to sabotage the main character of their respective shows behind their back.
Dodie doxxing everyone who had lice still gets to me in the years since I saw the episode, and I only watched "As Told By Ginger" a few times.
Right! She was the real wannabe, not Ginger.
Duuude even as a kid I couldn't believe how bad she was outing them all like that! Dodie really was an utter bitch
Definitely one of the moments I remember from the show! Like in real life her ass would have gotten in trouble for doing that! That is suspension level of trouble if not expelled 😤. Because according to other comments she was legit snooping around for that list of students with the lice.
Courney/Ginger should've been end game. I will not forgive Clasky Csupo for just freezing Courtney for the last season.
I miss this show.
Dodie was the Dijonnay Jones of this series.
Real bad!😂😂😂
We all know a Dodie at some point in our life. As told by ginger is a great representation of how sometimes our friends are just as bad as the people who don't like us. It really do be your own people. Miranda was at least upfront about her dislike for Ginger. Dodie was the other side of the coin, yes she loved Ginger, but to what extent. Dodie was always in it for popularity and she was projecting a lot of how her mother acts. If you watch the episodes focused on Dodie's mom she was probably the Miranda of her teen years. Dodie was always trying hard, while Ginger was noticed as a diamond in plain sight for her kindness, good heart, and altruistic tendencies.
I don't think her mom is even a Miranda, she's a loser who still can't fit in with the crowd she wishes to be in
They didn't give the list to dodie. She was snooping.
That’s right! 🤦🏾♀️ she found that list on her own. Now I remember.
That's what I remember too! I think that Ginger's mom gave the school a list for their records, and Dodie happened to see the list getting passed along, and then snuck in a stole it when no one was looking. She was going to get into sooooo much trouble if her little anouncement hadn't been sabatoged.
You know what's ironic? I recall an episode where Miranda, in a later season, was actually nice to Ginger.
The episode was about Ginger joining band in order to go on a trip to see Sasha, a boy she met at summer camp. When she found out he has a girlfriend, she is upset and goes into the bathroom to cry; Miranda, in a rare moment of kindness, goes in to check on her and actually talk to her about the situation, no hostility to be given.
I might be remembering wrong, but its just sad that the Mean Girl of the show showed more support in 1 episode than the "best friend" did.
Miranda is very wholesome for that tbh, in her own very logical Miranda way
I also didn't realize how bad of a friend Dodie was until I was an adult! I love Ginger, and Ginger grows a lot throughout the series - earlier episodes she's a bit star-struck about Courtney and being popular, but that gradually fades as she gets more comfortable in her own skin and treats Courtney like a regular person. Dodie never grows - she only cares about being popular for the whole series and never becomes a better friend or better person
Right! Dodie is really superficial and surface level. She cares SO much about being in the in crowd to the point to where it’s like….how old are we? You should be past that by now 😅
I always thought Dodie was the person who was the fake friend telling you that you could trust them then stab you in the back. I had a few like that.
Times Dodie's was a POS -
Telling Miranda Ginger's secrets
Revealing that Lois was going to be the nit nurse and then revealing the names of infected children.
Her trying to break up Ginger and Darren.
Trying to get Darren to cancel his birthday after her Karen mother forbade her from attending.
When she hid the fact that Darren was cheating on Ginger with Simone.
She fakes a leg injury to get on the cheerleading team and then (after Ginger finds out she is lying) she tells the cheerleaders that Ginger and Macie are bullying her.
Inviting Courtney to their BFT funfair trip just to spite Ginger for inviting Darren.
I am sure I have missed some but it is a long list.
Yeah, Dodie was horrible and her mom was the original Karen for real 😂
Also when she was hostile towards Ginger for being in the play with her crush. While I can't imagine that must feel good seeing your crush kiss your friend, and it's a little understandable why Dodie would feel hurt, it was never Ginger's fault! She was acting in a play doing as she was told!
The hiding about Darren cheating with Simone is the VILEST! All of that just bc she wants to be in the cheer squad so badly, she's a pathetic friend! There was never a girl code with Dodie to begin with
I never understood why the writers allowed Ginger and Dodie to remain friends, after all the horrible things Dodie has done. The episode where Dodie tried to ruin Ginger's relationship with Darren should have been the last straw. Ginger should have cut all ties with her after that. For a cartoon that is suppose to be realistic, it was very unrealistic for Ginger to keep a narcissistic, back stabbing sociopath like Dodie around her and still call her a "friend". Miranda is horrible, but at least she does not pretend to be nice, unlike Dodie Bishop.
Facts 💯 at least Miranda makes it known she doesn’t like Ginger. Dodie is worse because she pretends.
I think it's meant to be depiction of someone being friends with someone simply because they've been friends for such a long time. When you're that young, your entire world is pretty much who your neighbors are and who you go to school with. So in situations such as those, a young person probably doesn't fathom that they don't have to be friends with someone and can cut ties with them. You're basically giving them more passes as one would, say, a family member. Once someone grows up and has more means to see more of the world, i.e. move out to a new place, or go to school far from home, they can cultivate better friendships and disregard toxic ones. The series finale suggests that Ginger and Dodie are still friends, but I'm sure IRL Dodie would end up either alone and/or trapped in a loveless marriage and bitter just like her mother.
I had a friend like Dodie from age 9 to 20. It's not as easy as you think to acknowledge that your friend is toxic, especially when that means you have to cut them out of your life.
Not cutting her out is realistic enough for a middle schooler to do. We don't know if she might change later on either. There was an episode how dodie realizes she doesn't want to end up being like her mom, so maybe that's her (unexplored further) turning point
On a side note i never understand why Courtney keept miranda around her either. She's no wannabe like Dodie, but she's never there for courtney during her vulnerable moments
@@Kaboomboo she end up being with Chet that deadpan guy, i think she finally learns how to settle and realize what her worth is (aka not the popular crowd)
This show is timeless unlike All Grown Up.
Yes it is! I never really got into All Grown Up either
All Grown Up is a terrible show and it ruined the rugrats characters
All Grown Up would have been much better if the people behind the show didn’t hate working on it.
I was the same age as the kids (maybe a year or two younger) when that show came out and I really enjoyed it. I’m sure I wouldn’t enjoy it quite as much now but I was a fan as the target demographic at the time.
I remember the episode were here friends were plotting against here I think it was relationship with Darren and Courtney let Ginger listen in on the phone. And then the show straight up ignored the episode and moved on like if it never happend.
Like no we needed that follow upp
Oh yeah I remember that! We needed an update on that! 😂
I was hoping someone was gonna bring this up because I was going to otherwise. I agree with all the points brought up in this video for sure, but as a kid watching this show, that was the moment that really hit me like why is Ginger friends with Dodie after this one. The lack of acknowledgement always made me feel like maybe there was an episode missing or one that got canned for some reason showing a true resolution for how they patched their friendship back up. Glossing over it from the shows perspective just made it more glaringly strange and apparent.
I feel like there is definitely a lost episode waiting to be found.
Courtney's a real one.
Mmm-Hmm, I fully agree with this, and if you ask me, I say Courtney should've been Ginger's best friend💯
Dodie shows ZERO growth over the series. She starts off awful, she ends awful. I couldn’t stand her as a kid and I can’t stand her as an adult. She betrays Ginger again and again, shows her true nasty colors, never learns or changes her behavior, but is always forgiven for some reason. I always got the impression that she never truly cared about being friends with either Ginger or Maci. She tried to drop them at any chance she got if she thought she could climb the social hierarchy. She was just like her terrible mother. Even Miranda, as nasty as she was, acknowledges to Ginger that Dodie is a pretty terrible friend, and that is saying A LOT.
When did _Miranda_ say that about Dodie?
No one was safe from her social climbing if they happen to be in her way. Not even Courtney. If it had got out to everyone she had lice Miranda would have likely dropped her to save her own reputation.
It's been so long I can't really remember a lot of the episodes. But I definitely remember that part with Dodie and the lice list 😤.
I had a friene like Dodie growing up. Two of them, in fact. Seemed like no matter what I did they refused to leave me alone even after I said we weren't friends. Up until I left for college, there they were.
Never did liked dodie bishop and she's just like her mother, I honestly wish courtney became ginger's new best friend and stuff
Oh her mother was horrible! I was so happy that time Ginger called her out and stood up for Carl during that camping trip 😂
@@jessicascreenwritingservices Yessssss, and that just shows that despite being grossed out by Carl's antics, Ginger is very protective of him!
Oh Joann Bishop straight up bullied Ginger on that trip and made it so so so uncomfortable.
I got older, and got upset when Dodie couldn't just wish the best for Ginger when she was going away to an art school for a semester. Made me mad, honestly. Made we wonder why Ginger still talks to Dodie. I guess maybe when you are 12, you dont know theres better people out there to be friends with... you just make yourself comfortable with what you are familiar with.
I feel like friendships were different in the 00's too. People were less self aware. I had some pretty crappy friends in junior highschool. They just could never let me have anything good. I was bad at school and I tried really hard, but my friend always made jokes about it. In 7th Grade English I always did my homework and never missed an assignment. She got angry because she missed a few of hers.
I started drawing more, and my friend who was also into drawing used to get jealous of me...? I drew Garfield the Cat in chalk on the beach parking lot, and she just was not happy. She nit picked at it. Then I drew Tails from sonic the hedgehog in chalk on the parking lot driveway at recess. She tried having me erase it saying that it needed to be cleared before the next group comes out to play... and I just refused and did not do it even though she kept insisting. Eventually we were pulled away to go inside and I saw the next group come running out. They all ran straight to my drawing. Some of them started kicking at it because 12 year old boy be 12 year old boying. lol. It honestly felt good to see that, though.
I’d seen horrible friends animation and real life but Dodie. Man, I can’t stand her.
Yep, I used to watch this show back in the day with my grandmother and even she hated Dodie lol
Never liked Dodie, she was jealous of Ginger.
Courtney was a much better friend to Ginger than Dodie
You did an amazing job describing the episode and the friendship between Ginger and Dodie. I never liked Dodie. She was so desperate , and I agree that she would sell her soul to be popular. She was jealous that Ginger could basically get along with everyone except Miranda lol, but Dodie hated that Ginger was friends with Courtney and was desperate to be in that spot. Honestly, Dodie gave me some "Single White Female" vibes looking back.
Thank you! And yesss Dodie was doing wayyyy too much 😅
It’s honestly a competition of who was the more awful friend to the main character between Dodie and DiJonay.
Just pick one. They’re both awful.
I love how much Courtney grew during the series. She was open-minded and didnt mind trying new things.
This video was about an hour too short! I need more Dodie critique. 👏
I'll do another one soon lol 😊 thanks for watching!
It wasn't until Dodie tried to break up Ginger and Darren that I actually started hating her. I kept hoping they'd give her an episode to be redeemed or at least let her go full villain, because then she could be interesting. But no, she gets easily forgiven or hand-waves to let her still be considered a token good person.
That said, it took me awhile to realize a lot of my childhood friends were... not good friends. One that never was around, one that despite how often we hung out, would turn on me just like dodie would the moment it would benefit her. Kind of glad I don't see them anymore.
I just sort of wish the flash forward would not show Dodie being in Ginger's friend group anymore though, or at least, not a BEST friend. Instead, maybe just some flowered from Dodie to Ginger for he reading, showing she didn't show up, but at least had a token of good faith to send her regards. It would givet he proper imagery of a friendship that has soured, but not completely gone which I could accept.
Even as a kid watching these episodes it was always something about Dodie that rubbed me the wrong way then as the series progressed and I saw how she would practically throw you under the bus if it means she’ll be popular even if the person was her own friends and family but I always thought it was good the creators made a character like her to show young audiences at the time that even the people you call your friends can stab you behind your back
To me, it was when she convinced Ginger to ask out that sub on a date.... On national television dying a quiz game.
Omg I forgot about that 😅 my 12 year old self was mortified watching her do that 🤣
Cortney had more business being gingers friend
I'm still convinced that Dodie is genetically closer to a frog than a primate and I don't even watch the show.
Why did this comment almost make me drop my water glass 😂🤣
That lice one was brutal.
It sure was!
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Girl this is so damn true!!!! You said it better than I could have.
I never cared for Dodie. Ginger let Dodie get away with murder way too many times.
To this day, I wonder how Dodie wasn't getting her face rearranged by the people she humiliated. How on earth was she able to get away with announcing the kids had lice to the entire school? At the very least, no one should ever speak to her again and she should've gotten some sort of suspension. Cartoon logic I suppose.
Courtney's role was the mean girl but Dodie was the real mean girl. It was obvious to me when I was a kid too. SMH.
Yeah I remember thinking back then like Courtney’s really not mean lol
dodie stole that list
Everyone talks about how she tried to split Ginger and Darren up but not enough people talk about how she didn’t tell Ginger her man was all over a cheerleader or that same cheerleader that her crush (who was any too young for her) had a girlfriend all for the sake of her dream of being a cheerleader too. Not to mention when she wanted Ginger to cancel her then boyfriends birthday party just cause she wouldn’t be able to go. Honestly the show writers let her get away with a lot
Shows like this and proud family showed me that your best friends are the worst friends you can have, thus altering my mind as a pre teen and teenager to keep EVERYONE I knew at a distance, because that drama was 100% unappealing to me. And. I don't fully regret it. Like sure I don't have a lot of "life long" friends. But I have like 3 I talk to once in a blue moon and that's more than enough for me.
Same here! It's better to have a small amount of quality friends than to be around a large group of fake people.
I actually remember it being WORSE in that episode with Dodie reading the announcements. I think Dodie actually found the list of people with lice in the drawer - not the school handing her the list to announce
also is helga and pheobe's relationship toxic too like im asking
Yes! Lol Phoebe is a literal people pleaser and gets walked over all the time and Helga is extremely dominating and aggressive due to her being neglected at home. (Amazing what’s really going on in these child shows) 😅
@@jessicascreenwritingservices well are they both better charcters than dodie
Helga may be bossy and treats her like a minion but Helga is still a better friend to Pheobe than Dodie. Helga at least apologize to Phoebe time to time. Dodie apologize but she never means it.
But at least Helga genuinely cares about Phoebe and actually regrets taking advantage of her
Helga is a better friend to Phoebe than Dodie was to Ginger.
It's really funny how perspectives change when you get older. I think Miranda does actually like Courtney but I think miranda likes Courtney more than she likes Miranda. Courtney turned out to be a better friend than Dodie. But we all had a toxic, fake friend like Dodie. I wonder if Dodie was kept around because she was a childhood friend? But she shouldn't have still been shown to be Ginger's friend later on. I hope she just sat in the front spot and claims to be Ginger's best friend.
Dodie was horrible. She’d be better friends with Miranda.
Dodie was worse than Miranda (in my opinion). At least Miranda made it known she didn’t like Ginger. Dodie tried to fake it and camouflaged her true self.
you know i don't mind miranda too much and i think thats because dodies worse and because i like cree summer voice work
Yep! Dodie was super fake. I feel like she was lowkey envious of Ginger. At least Miranda was real.
@@jessicascreenwritingservices this may sound random but have you heard of a cartoon called braceface
Yep! That was my show back in the day.
@@jessicascreenwritingservices I have to say the show is decent on it own but its brought down by sharons behavior shes kind of like dodie in a way she always thinks she knows whats best and always interfears in peoples lives
Miranda had this amazing sass and sometimes was just deliciously evil. And even then, she sometimes could've been a decent person and even a genuine help to Ginger (surprisingly, in the Ginger's Solo episode).
Dodie is fake, obnoxious and self-centred. She is as insecure as Ginger, but lacks a good heart to make it work out in the end - and rarely gets called out by pretty much everyone.
What I'm trying to say, Miranda is bad, but she's so much fun sometimes. Dodie is just bad.
I think Courtney liked Ginger because she didn't try to fit in, she was herself and unbothered
Exactly! 😊💯
This show was really in a tie for worst friendships of the early 2000s kids shows with The Proud Family. Lol fake friends. But at least (from my memory of the show) Ginger was a decent friend. Penny was always doing her friend group as dirty as they did her.
Imo Miranda was worse if no different than Dodie, or was worse with Dodie coming in at extremely close second. The reason why I'm saying Miranda is the worst is because of how she treats Ginger in And She Was Gone. Not even Dodie mocked Ginger when she believed Ginger was depressed
I will not defend Miranda or her terrible behaviour but at least she did not pretend to be Ginger's friend.
@zemox2534 Yes. But an asshole is an asshole, regardless if they're honest about it or not. Plus Miranda, while being open about disliking Ginger, has been shown to be two faced several times. She would backstab Courtney at the drop of a hat when she was no longer popular and has used every underhanded tactic in the book to manipulate others into doing the dirty work for her. Don't get me wrong Dodie was by no means a saint, and is nearly as toxic if not just toxic as Miranda, but they're both people who Ginger would be perfectly fine without. I've been friends with a few "Dodies" and as well as one who was a combination of Miranda and Dodie who stopped being friends with me because of a petty reason- let's say I have Asperger's and wasn't up to their standards socially so they just suddenly cast me out and instead of telling me to my face they sent someone to tell me for them.
She is literally the worst, I'm shocked ginger never got slapped with the reality that she deserves a better friend. Courtney did better without the title of bestie
No one is as bad as a friend then Jake from adventure time he’s the worst friend
Jake the dog? What did he do to finn?
Dodie was a hater
Courtney was kinda sus with ginger.
I’m curious how so?
I'm kind of joking but to me it always seemed like courtney had this infatuation with ginger. Like why Ginger a girl who hangs out with and is perceived as unpopular. I know we can totally just see it as courtney just curious about lower class life style
@@prowlandsasuke Courtney is that rich and sheltered friend who finds anything outside her world to be fascinating, which is way better than being an out of touch snob