Why I removed my K&N Cold Air intake from my 2023 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2022
- I will start this off by saying- I have used K&N systems on several vehicles over the years . I can say that they do have varying degrees of
“performance upgrades” depending on the vehicle .
Installing this 77 series caused my idol to fluctuate.
One variable may be that I now live remotely, and every time I leave the house , I have 12 kms of dusty dirt private roads to drive . Was it the factory oiling that caused the idle fluctuating, or was it dirt particles that got through the system and caused my mass air flow to be dirty??
Let me know your thoughts in the comments below !
I ended up replacing the system with the factory oem air box . I am considering the TRD CAI , let me know your thoughts on it !
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When I installed it on my 2023 Tacoma Sport the same thing happened but it was because I had not placed a hose correctly and it was sucking air through there. I connected the hose well to make sure there were no leaks and the problem was fixed.
Thanks for your experience- cheers !
2017 trd off-road with k&n filter for 2 years already and no issues.
The difference I learned through the install was that the OEM set up is pulling cold air from the outside, whereas the K&N is pulling hot air from the engine bay.
Besides looking better and sounding better , the performance benefits are debateable…
the intake comes with a heat shield for that very reason, the intake still pulls air from the hole of the stock intake, you can literally hear it. @@mikealarie007
That’s NUTS! Can’t wait to see how you rectified, if you took it back, or if you removed!
I took it out ! And im not one to typically pull out , but here we are!
sorry this happened to you, but thank you for posting and let it be known .
Thanks john, might just be a factor of too much dirt road driving, but I was not really wanting to gamble.
I’m glad I installed a DRY cold air intake on my 23 TRD
Which did you go with?
@@mikealarie007 I honestly don’t remember the name but when it gets dirty I can either blow it off or wash it with water and let it dry completely and reinstall it
Thanks for the video. I had the same one in my 2020 Ram 1500 Hemi installed it under 1000 miles on the truck took it off after 37000 miles never had an issue. I removed it went back to stock because I didn’t want to spend the money on a new filter. I will not be installing one on my 2023 Taco V6, I really don’t think it is worth the money well at least not this one anyway.
Agreed!
Interesting. I put a S&B CAI on my 3rd gen tacoma. I picked a paper filter for it. Before I installed it, I disconnected battery, then when I was done installing, I connected battery again and let the computer readjust to new flow. I haven't had any issues so far. I have had on for over a year so far. The disconnect battery step I'm not even sure if you need to, but saw some videos doing that step. Keep us updated. Thanks
Ultimately, I would like to go with the S&B down the road. I did disconnect the battery, I just think some excessive oil got through.?
I went back to stock and will look at a system, like yours down the road . Are you happy with it?
@@mikealarie007 yeah, love it! Looks good too. It did change the sound a little, not a whole lot that's been "hyped" on some channels. I will be getting a MRP axel turn down exhaust down the road as well.
@@shiloc7james363 I have not heard of that exhaust, so I will definitely check that out. Thanks for sharing.
@@mikealarie007 sorry its MBRP EXHAUST, not MRP, LOL
@@shiloc7james363 right on. My buddy has one on his Titan and let me tell you it sounds dirty.🔥
I've had the same issue with my Xterra. I've stopped using K&N oil filters and switched back to the paper filter. Ended with a very hefty bill to fix because it caused the engine to run very rich and burned out my catalytic converter. This all happened within a few days after the install.
Oh man , thanks for sharing! You just made me feel better about my decision to remove it ! Cheers!
I had a similar issue with my rogue as a result of using a k&n filter. I think I oiled it too much, resulting in a few issues with fuel economy. From now on, I'm only going in dry.
Xterra’s are known to have cats that clog and particles get sucked back in the engine causing it to burn oil. I’ve replaced mine 2 times. But I’m sure the K&N didn’t help.
I have no issues and I’m actually impressed with it. Durango.
I hear you there, ive never had issues till i was 12 km deep down a dirt rd . Might just be a little excessive… im so disappointed it didn’t work out, as i love the look and sound !
I always had this issue when it was cold out. I had one on 2 different 4runners and a Tundra TRD Pro. The quick and simple fix is disconnect the negative cable for about 15 seconds and put it back on. It seemed to happen especially when accelerating hard if the motor was not warmed up.
My 2017 ltzs engine loses power and cuts off on me after installing my cold air intake, I’m assuming after some digging that the sensors can’t read or aren’t programmed to read that much air flow so it shuts the engine off
I had the engine come on mine, I told my mechanic about. He checked it out , took the air sensor out n cleaned it with just blowing air. Not a problem since then, he told me I sprayed to much oil. So every now n then I take the filter out n blow it out. I also put a dust cover on the filter to keep dust n water away, works like a charm.
Thanks for sharing Brother!
I have the TRD performance intake and didnt really notice a change, maybe slightly at much higher rpms. I did get a K&N blackhawk CAI which is a dry filter. No issues with idling, I like it so far but it may be too loud 😂
Thanks for the input, I have a Trd pro, and I wish it was louder!
@@mikealarie007 I have the pro as well. Definitely worth a shot paired with the cat back exhaust (and the K&N blackhawk). It's no rumble like a V8, but it's louder for sure.
What was wrong with the stock cold air intake?
I had the same problem with a Ford Ranger. The mass air flow censor is fogged with oil from the filter. They make an arisol cleaner to clean it.
Yes Sir , i cleaned it but went back to oem . Just because i did not want reoccurring issues with it getting dirty . ( i do a 12 km dirt rd every time i leave the house … )
Put one on too and also took mine off
There are definitely better upgrades to spend the money on!
You gotta get the MAF recalibrated and tune the engine
I ended up going back to oem , but thanks for the input , cheers!
I would be curious as to what caused the issue. I have the same K&N installed on my 2017 TRD OR and have not had any issues...my truck is a manual (that shouldn't matter). I have only noticed an increase in throttle response and of course the sound...fuel economy has stayed the same.
This is a vacuum issue and a line is not hooked up right
I installed Mishimoto high air flow straight tube 2018 3.5 Tacoma the throttle clicking popping when steering wheel is turned. I put stock cold air intake back, no clicking popping. So, I think it’s just too much cold air that computer doesn’t recognize. I’ll stick with stock for now on.
Thanks for sharing your experience!🍻
Start with checking all connections. Contact K&N and ask them.
Too much oil on the filter? I've been running a k&N on my 2011 TRD sport since new in '11 and never had an issue.
Truck has 310,000km and still spins like a top. I hope you got it all figured out.
Most likely too much oil and didn’t let dry for 2-3 hours
Clean your Mass Air Flow sensor, and the throttle body with the appropriate spray cleaners. Make sure there isn't too much oil on the filter, clean it and lightly oil it. It might take the computer a little bit of time to adjust - let it idle for about 10 min after cleaning.
Worth a shot to avoid the stealership.
Thanks! I ultimately decided to go back to Oem as i drive 12 kms down a sand / dirt private road every time i leave the house . It’s abnormally dusty , I figured instead of worrying about it , id go back stock . Maybe a Trd intake in the future… this one is for sale if anyone is looking! Cheers!
@@mikealarie007TRD Cold Air Intake only cosmetic, makes your engine bay look “pretty!” K&N Cold Air Intake cost the same as the TRD, most like too much oil. I have cheaper brand Cold Air Intake, half the the price of K&N in my brand new 2023 Tacoma. I love it!😊
@@SMITT359 I went back to OEM , but might eventually look at alternatives- cheers!
Hi Mike,
I’ve also have a 2023 TRD Pro and thinking about the K&N Cold Air Intake…Did you find out why it happened like that? Please advise!
Hi Tommy ! Ill say this , i am a long time customer of these . I like the look , sound and small hp gains .
That being said , each vehicle setup is different when we are talking oem .
Now , many vehicles just have a hole in the fender that feeds air into your filter…
But …. The stock oem system actually has a closed off unit meaning a pipe that feeds into the fender which pulls in only cold air from that engine hole. If you put in a k&n like this , you are pulling in just the air from the engine bay and that hole .
If you pop off the top of your stock airbox , you will see the pipe going into the fender pulling clean crisp air .
I believe my problem was a combination of k&n filter oil and dust on my sensor, as i do heavy driving regularly on dirt / sand roads .
I personally decided to go back stock , but will look at other options like the TRD intake which are pipe fed to the cold air hole . Just my 2 cents, cheers
Dude. I got a 2023 SX 4x4. And I have that K&N 77 series transporting into southern California cause it's illegal here.. but this is the first u tube clip I've seen negative about this. I'll keep intouch with ya and let you know how mine turns out. I'm almost to 5k on my new truck so if anything does go bad I'll put the stock intake back on before I hit the dealership to get my "truck life time oil change" .
I have 22 TRD OR and installed my K&N intake at 5k miles and the truck is currently at 16k. Havent had any issues with my truck about this, let me know what you done to resolve this.
I went back to oem just because i have to drive 12 kms of sand / dirt rd every time I leave the house . Its extreme circumstances unfortunately
Most newer vehicles already have a CAI. You are better off saving your money and buying a drop in filter. But....adding the open CAI really sounds awesome, especially on the Tacoma 3.5 liter.
Whoa! I have an S&B. Did you disconnect the battery for an hour or so before you installed it?
I sure did. Ultimately down the road I will look at going with the.S&B .
Are you happy with yours?
@@mikealarie007 I am. But I may be thinking my mass airflow sensor may be dirty. Will check it out.
Realistically they don't filter quite as well as a paper element does. For someone like me who goes in mud and snow occasionally there's no downside to them, my filter isn't dirty after 15k miles. Someone who regularly runs in fine dust is more likely to have issues than the average pavement princess.
Agreed. I ended up going back to stock just based on the fact that I live 6 km down a dirt road. It’s always dusty in here.
So what was the verdict. I'm viewing this 3 months after post... did you figure it all put. I got the same 77 series transporting to me and will be here within the week. Now I'm skeptical... yeah mostly cause my tacomas a 2023 and i figure the sensors are possibly a litte more sensitive than years prior cause California is wack with treehugger environmentalists...etc.
I put one on!!! Couple days ago !!! Legit ! Sounds like a souped up dodge charger.
Anyways I got the pedal commander too and that helps the with sensitivity of gear searching... a little... but I can't wait to research to 4.88 . Then my truck won't search for gears nearly as much. Toyota factory gears for 3rd Gen SUCKS!!!!! . The K&N install was like 27 min with all the tools ready . I'm stoked..
ReGEAR***
Did your warranty cover it even though you removed the factory parts
I ended up going back to stock oem setup
Buy new Jet Performance Products Powr-Flo Mass Air Sensor and install the check light is off.
If you buy new intake and you have to buy mass Air Sensor too.
Did you disconnect the battery first ? If you didn’t that could be the issue .
I sure did .
Ultimately, I went back to oem , not just because of the issue but because once I took everything apart and saw that the factory design was a better option in the sense of it is connected to the fender, pulling in cold air from outside of the engine bay.
What did you do with the k&n filter?
I sold it locally on Marketplace at a loss
Didn’t for me, did you disconnect the negative terminal, are you sure the mass airflow sensor is on properly, is there any leaks?
After opening multiple units like this, I went through the proper procedures. I just think that it was probably some oil that got on the sensor., but after learning the design of the OEM version, I decided to go back to OEM and have the cold air come directly from the wheel well
@@mikealarie007interesting, i’ve had mine on since june and it runs perfectly fine… manufacture issues i guess?
@@Spuunzy I don’t know, I might go with the Trd pro version that pulls cold air through the fender at some point
Did you tune it after installing it?
I install an S&B CAI and did the same thing on me i had to desconnect battery every 100 miles to reset computer... i think u have to tube ur pcm, every truck reacts diffrent i guess
That sure sounds like a vacuum leak
does it need a tune?
I think a tune is always a good idea, however, I don’t think that just by changing the air filter it should be mandatory….
I ended up removing it and going back to OEM
Sounds like a vacuum leak to me. Check your hoses.
Everything was tight , ultimately i ended up removing it and went back to oem for now ☹️
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with the stock system. It is also a cold air system as it doesn’t pull air from the engine compartment
Agreed ! I only learned this when I took apart the OEM set up . I would like to get the TRD set up though. You would think the Pro would come with it stock …
Too much of poor resulted open pod intake selling in market
For the amount of money they want for these, why would you spent all that money for basically same think your came with? Dosent make sense at all! You want some better throttle response get a tune or just by AFE Pro dry s filter. At least this filter wont mess with you mass air flow sensor, no oil. Doesn't give you any power gains but throttle response is a bit better.
Agreed , we need all the extra power we can get out of these tacos ha ha ha
Getting a cold air intake on a tacoma is a waste of money.
It sounds nice. But if you’re looking for anything else then yeah maybe.
@bknapp462: I somewhat disagree with your statement. The TRD Cold Air Intake is only “cosmetic,” makes your engine bay look “pretty.” K&N Cold Air Intake around the same price, it works if maintain it correctly. Rough Country Cold Air Intake, is half the price, and it works. I love in my 2023 Tacoma.😊