These poor people. It's not safe for them here. On the positive side Liberia is crying out for people so they should go there and make Africa great. 🙏🏿
What is very telling is the family were shown footage of the shooting and immediately afterwards said they were suspending campaigning. But that does not matter to these people.
“We need answers.” - Chris Kaba created immediate danger to the lives of others around him by using his 2 tonne car as a battering ram, and the danger that he created was ended by an officer performing his duty. Now confirmed by a jury in court.
so high speed car chases and trying to avoid arrest by running folks over or ram thier car is normal behaviour for every day folks is it??? Seriously??? do you really think people live like this all over? certain demographics will get along a lot better when they actually take responsibility for their actions or those actions they KNOW is illegal
You’re dodging the key question. Does such behavior and prior history of conduct warrant the death penalty? Was deadly force necessary (justified) by the immediate circumstances? If not, then he was murdered.
@jimmy Hard to say without experiencing being there as it all unfolds. I’d like to think that first act is to avoid getting myself killed or injured seriously, so I’d get out of the way and stay out of the way. Then I’d further assess the situation to see if threats to self or other persons were realistic, imminent and executable; take action according to neutralize that threat. Anything other than that, I would what needs to be done to control and mitigate things short of use of deadly force. Basically, if I’m looking down the barrel of a gun, I’ll kill instead of be killed. In all other situations, I’ll use my brain and time and resources to deal with situation. My warrant card is not an 007 license to kill when it’s convenient for me to do so.
sometimes it's a unharmed innocent person, sometimes it's a thug out to hurt others. are we saying black people don't have arseholes in their ranks? I know whites do.
@jimmy You nor I don’t know all that happened and what we do is mainly the police version and perspective, truthful or not. I think the common understanding is the victim was a suspect of a crime, acted criminally when confronted by the police, and was shot dead while fleeing away from police. Allegedly at one point, the victim threatened police safety but did not injure, fled from that episode and was shot in the back, unarmed nor never giving any indication of being armed. So, that’s what I’m going on. It’s not hypothetical that I don’t see anything here that warrants deadly use of force to be used running away, at distance with their back turned to the user of force. Their was no urgent nor emerging situation that demanded he be murdered.
It’s time for the police to walk away from these black communities because they have lost the plot. They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Leave them to it as long as it doesn’t spill out of their hood. At least they won’t riot if it’s tit for tat stabbings/shootings from their own.
Chris Kaba had been in prison for firearms offence and involvement with active gangs - WHY are these people saying he was innocent ?....his car was flagged on a system for a reason ....theres nothing random about it
He was innocent in the context that he was shot. Having a criminal history isn't 'being guilty', that's a deeply dehumanizing and authoritarian (not to mention prejudiced) perspective.
@@josierobison1753 That is true , but having a criminal history can be relevant as to why they were following the car . It wasnt Chris' car , but the car was the subject of intelligence from a previous offence .
Nah, don’t do facts. I heard he was returning from visiting his sick grandma and as he was travelling down the road at 28mph he was ambushed and shot 150 times coz that’s what the police do.
yeah im sure the police had no other way to detain someone who was in a boxed in car, the best option was clearly delivering the death penalty with no trial
@@legopenguin9 firstly you are probably anti police, but I'll play. The car was involved in a firearms incident. So that's why armed police was called. The majority of our police are not armed. The car maybe boxed in, so turn engine off and put hands on steering wheel. Not rev engine and try to run copper over. So what you're saying is the copper should die.
We don’t know if that is actually what happened. Just because the police say something happened one way doesn’t mean it didn’t happen a different way. The police have been known to lie to cover for themselves.
Of course it does not matter ! Listen to yourself . Person has been released form prison. I assume he paid his debt to society . Better questions is why poilce does kill people mainly black man .
The black peoples accient is so British it’s funny but all joke aside God bless you all your the best blacks no matter were u are you just so INTERNATIONAL
Maybe they want an independent investigation, one that doesn’t assume the police are innocent from the outset. There may be many things that they disagree with in regards the attitude and behaviour of the police in these circumstances. I am sure if you investigate you will find their grievances and the things that could be changed to satisfy them or meet them half way.
@@mrman8388 no gun was found but no not end of! Many reasons other than a gun including what one witness claimed that he tried to ram the police with his car but you don't know that because THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION!!!
@@jujutrini8412 it's not an investigation in which the police are assumed innocent. What these people want is an investigation in which they are assumed and found guilty no matter what! That's why all these people keep on talking about unarmed when nobody including the police are making that claim!!
Looks like it all finally caught up to him. He rapped about crime in general, from drugs to killing people. I'm so sad this positive influence has been removed from the gene pool 🤣😂
@@RossKempOnYourMum01 you’re right. I was just calling you out on your jump…the what if thing which artificially creates a conclusion used to buttress a solicitous argument or feeling.
@@dwhyte2397 no I sign off with the British flag on every comment have done for years. Why do assume me using the British flag means I'm something to do with that lot. Its very sad that you hate the country you live in and when you see the flag you think edl. 🇬🇧👍
@@andrewdaley5480 I thought it (your post) was funny mate, highlighting the hypocrisy without being offensive. I think wit will soon be a hate crime. 👍🏻
Non-white more youthful males are at the highest risk, but truth be told everyone is at serious risk and jeopardy. When a society’s government grants impunity to a class of people like police and military, it naturally results in institutionalized acts of impunity. Mix in relaxed controls (or hardly any controls in the U.S.) on firearm and you have a recipe for urban warfare. It starts small with seemingly isolated outrageous individual acts that get the public’s eye. This usually reveals a history or pattern of such behavior. Once that cat’s out of the bag, there’s little restraint to continue pretending things like this aren’t the norm. Once that’s out in the open and a large segment of the public actually realizes they’re literally prey to the predatory element of authority (police), the gloves come off. Civility takes a backseat for those that want to protect themselves from those who were suppose to be doing the protecting but instead use it as tool to oppress and destroy. The differences between the U.S. and UK are gun availability (more guns in private hands than people). The historical origins for such problems between white ruling classes and everyone else in both countries are rooted in empire, conquest, slavery, and acts of genocide that have never been properly addressed
@@jujutrini8412 The police intel was wrong , but If he had of followed police instructions he would probably still be alive . He didnt and got shot dead because the police thought he was going to explode a bomb on a tube train . How would you have dealt with that situation ? Not shot him , potentially let him explode the bomb and kill many people .
these people need to be victims of gun crime before they know what they are talking about . The reason they are so adamant that they know who to blame and how to solve it show's their lack of insight.
It shows how racist they are. To automatically assume this was some racist police murder with no evidence is racist itself. Too much racism from black people in left unchecked!
@@orcashorts5813 much more likely than not…the calculus is that the institution of policing has a lot more at stake and to lose if it comes out that this was murder or manslaughter and the justice system prosecutes one of its own with the same zeal it would anyone else. It’s much more in their own best interests, they’ll think, to cover up, dissemble, and manage the messaging with cooperation of the MSM banking on the collective memory of the public to forget it all over time. Of course, I am not sure, but from past similar events this is how I understand that things will unfold. It’s not a reliable stance to take to expect public institutions to admit to or correct their own misbehavior. Independent outside civilian oversight, not influenced by politics or bias, even has its difficulty in getting truth and justice into the light of day. I doubt the officer will face anything resembling an open court or tribunal. It’ll likely be “dealt with “ internally and not disclosed to the public unless considerable public pressure is brought to bear as we see in this video.
You don't even know what happened here and yet you are just making wild assumptions. Much like many other racial incidents I can't wait for the truth to come out and a you racists be exposed and then you will all go quite until the next one and then you will magically forget all these incidents that you wanted to lie about instead of waiting for the facts!
Innocent until proven guilty. Ok. I have little or no education of the legal system because I've never done anything. I'll put my criminal record up against his and will state, if I behaved the way he did that night, a totally innocent man, I'd expect to be shot too.
I follow Novara because I support workers' rights. I don't care for this nonsense. Every single person interviewed has ignored key facts, such as a witness stating that chris kaba was using his car as a weapon. Why have they ignored this?
@@martinturtak4901 they *were* trying to arrest him. He didn't comply, he chose to drive away before driving his car towards police - who i assume shot him to save themselves being run over. None of us know whether it was lawful or an 'execution' because we havent seen footage of the incident. Of course though, we can construct a certain narrative by only mentioning certain details such as "unarmed black man", rather than including other details such as "career criminal with a history of gun related violence, in a vehicle registered as being linked to firearm offences, shot dead after reportedly attempting to use his car as a weapon against the police officers attempting to arrest him"
It's unbelievable how many arseholes have come out in support of the uniformed thugs who executed an unarmed man who didn't pose any threat the way the thugs claimed he did. It was an execution in broad daylight.
I'm sure you were there for the whole thing and know exactly what happened don't you, previous firearms offences, failed to stop, what if it turns out he looked like he's reaching for something? It's easy for people like you to suggest the police should wait until someone's tried to kill them before they act, I know I wouldn't, it's a tragic circumstance and I feel for the family, but acting like this guy was a perfect angel just sitting there minding his own business isn't just ridiculous, it's part of the problem
I'm not sure if the circumstances would have been nice to have a lil context, I've not come across anything about this situation on any other news outlet, social or main stream
Yes, more information is needed. At the same time, if someone has died at the hands of the police then that deserves scrutiny and attention in and of itself. Even if it turns out to have been unavoidable, it needs to be investigated properly and not just by the police themselves and the IPCC; the police have shown no hesitation in the past to spread untruths from day 1 like they did to Stephen Lawrence's family and they cannot be allowed to make the story die as a result. There should be initial protests no matter the facts because there needs to be an incentive for the matter to be taken seriously. Stage 1, demand scrutiny, stage 2 protest wrongdoing if found.
@@jimcrelm9478 I think they just meant that they're not familiar with the case; that this is the first time they are hearing about it and this vid just jumps straight into interviews with the protesters without giving us a re-cap about what actually took place (and when, how, who, etc. - who is Chris Kaba?) - not that there shouldn't be an investigation. It's the first I've heard of it too.
It's ironic one of these people used the word accountability, I agree, the young man should've stopped when the police told him to, acting like he's some poor innocent angel isn't going to do anyone any good, I feel for the family but what people are trying to stir up will only further divide everyone
@@thejosh3855 most people are framing it as "unarmed black man shot dead by police" that's a deliberate attempt to suggest he's innocent, context is everything, the truth is nobody has any right to judge what's happened until all the facts are laid out properly, I know you think using a fancy word makes you intelligent, but all it's done this time is make you look like a dramatic fairy, he didn't get chased down by some vigilante and executed, the police don't have to stand there and wait until someone points a gun in their face and shoots, if it turns out he either tried to run over the police officer or failed to show his hands then it's on him, just something else for you to think about, they don't send armed police to chase someone down who's not paid a parking ticket
@@mrman8388 if only all police work could be done with hindsight, turns out it can’t, previous firearms offences, failed to stop, for all they know he’s willing to kill people to get away, they don’t have to wait until they’re staring down the barrel of a gun before they act, if he didn’t comply it’s his own fault
It is good to hear articulate young people describing how bad the policing is in this country. It’s not just black people who suffer, young white women suffer as well.
Pippa, why is it that when Black people speak about a very specific injustice you have the need to insist "well its us too why are is it about YOU" i could never understand this. its like you have the urge to "all live matter this" at all costs
@@PHlophe To be fair it's not the words themselves, it's what they imply. Whilst "all lives matter" unfortunately usually implies that no special attention should be given to the racial element of police violence (and often it means no attention should be paid to the issue whatsoever), by contrast I think what some people are going for by mentioning misogyny is that most people are threatened by police and therefore most people should do something about it. Appealing to people's empathy and good nature (almost their charity) will only go so far. That's idealism. But there's an opportunity for actual mutualism here. That's not to say we are all treated the same, just that there's an opportunity for something like a coalition if both groups can speak up. Not competing for the limelight (yes, including white women monopolising the issue) but raising the profile of the issue together. With that said, is there anything specific that you think more people should know about? Or actions they should take? I also want to say that maybe I agree, maybe unity isn't always good - different groups will have different aims, like reform versus abolition, or freedom from violence for only middle class people (while keeping police around to control those who aren't doing so well out of the current economic system) versus working class/all people. That applies within the feminist movement though, not just womens' liberation versus black liberation. There will always be these kinds of traitors and so no unity can last forever. But that's way down the line and like I say, I think what some people want is to bring people into the cause, with the sense of urgency that comes from being directly threatened the impunity that the police have and the role they play.
Well UK can defund the police force as these liberal left wingers with tunnel vision want So criminals like Mr kaba can roam streets with impunity He was asked to stop failed to do so tried to run over police officer If he obeyed the officers he would be alive But he's a career criminal so he did not obey unfortunately he's now dead Its up to judicial system know to decide Hopefully day never comes when criminals walk the .streets with no police to stop them Because that's what this lot of idiots want
Maybe because the monarch is seen as a role model by so many civilised people …. And then you have mr kaba a felon , powerless in mind but his vehicle was used as a weapon ….
@@msnaomijacques6344 bot. The Uk isn’t a federation so he’s committed no federal crime and therefore isn’t a felon. Also the only reason the Queen isn’t officially a criminal is because a sovereign has immunity from civil and criminal investigation and can’t be arrested. Her daughter has a criminal record though, pleaded guilty to speeding and to allowing her dangerous dog to attack people. I presume you will be calling for her summary execution by police?
@@wavell14 yeah it’s not like war crimes happened on her watch such as the imprisonment and torture of the Mau Mau from 52-60, or like britain still claims territories around the world.
@@DoubleA88 Then surely they can simply just not watch the video? Its not like it was a deceptive thumbnail or title. The video was clearly about Kaba.
@@pancakingon agreed, I suspect they encountered that strange internet feeling where one feels compelled to comment on something they are disinterested in to let us know they are disinterested in said topic
🤫 Because of the insecurity and unstable country in the uk England I am now looking at moving away to another part of the world In the uk now there are just too many bad apples It's the case of here we go again Each day more conflicts About the security and People are hard enough Also just completely being forked off all the time We are going back to the seventies Who trusts who
It is not established whether or not what the police did was unlawful. Unlike in the US, it is understood in the UK that in certain circumstances people have a right to anonymity.
To those saying "well he resisted arrest", "a witness said he had a weapon": He was killed by another human being, that is called murder, stop trying to justify it To those who say whenever there's a police incident there's people claiming its being unnecessarily made a racial issue how many instances do you need for a coincidence to be a pattern? If you're here you've probably got some sense to not ignore facts to make yourself feel safe, so why are you doing it now?
Is there not a process. Many of these people talk as if they know exactly what happened that night/incident. Anyone who had been involved in a legal matter or a work investigation knows it does not just happen in a few hours but this is largely the problem with most people they have no idea how many working parts there are to things and also has to be fit into work that people are already involved in.
Why are they doing a good job? Nobody knows the facts of the case yet. Reports seem to be that he tried to ram people with his car. If that turns out to be true, will all these people issue an apology? I don't think so.
The Police are wretched, they don't really respect the law, they think they're the judge and jury, and go about as they see fit. I've seen them edit reports to fit their agenda, even discard and fabricate evidence, lie, manipulate, and make feeble excuses, then just ignore you. There would of been plenty of traffic camera's recording, dash cam footage from those Police cars, and even camera's on their uniforms. They can quickly cover it up though, even destroy evidence to protect themselves, I've seen it done, they know how play the system and get away with it. You have to act quickly, so they can't destroy that CCTV footage and work togeather to make up a story that fits, don't let them waste time, it'll work in their favour.
these people are delusional
These poor people. It's not safe for them here. On the positive side Liberia is crying out for people so they should go there and make Africa great. 🙏🏿
What is very telling is the family were shown footage of the shooting and immediately afterwards said they were suspending campaigning. But that does not matter to these people.
Having seen the footage after trial you can see why.
Don't be a criminal then? Stupid games, stupid prizes.
A wise man once said, “if you keep pushing the edge, eventually you’ll find it”.
Good riddance to the 9 year old from Liverpool
Blacks are trying to start a race war that they can't win
What about justice for all the people affected by stabbings, shootings, robberies and other crimes committed on a daily basis by gangs in London?
Maybe if they spent less time being corrupt they'd have more time to do policework?
You can have justice for both. One does not preclude the other.
@@europainvicta3907 How does protesting an event where the facts aren't known demanding a preconceived resolution amount to justice?
“We need answers.” - Chris Kaba created immediate danger to the lives of others around him by using his 2 tonne car as a battering ram, and the danger that he created was ended by an officer performing his duty. Now confirmed by a jury in court.
so high speed car chases and trying to avoid arrest by running folks over or ram thier car is normal behaviour for every day folks is it??? Seriously??? do you really think people live like this all over? certain demographics will get along a lot better when they actually take responsibility for their actions or those actions they KNOW is illegal
Totally agree, only criticism I have here is the fact they used lethal force to stop him.
There is no need for chants of racism in this protest.
You’re dodging the key question. Does such behavior and prior history of conduct warrant the death penalty? Was deadly force necessary (justified) by the immediate circumstances? If not, then he was murdered.
@jimmy Hard to say without experiencing being there as it all unfolds. I’d like to think that first act is to avoid getting myself killed or injured seriously, so I’d get out of the way and stay out of the way. Then I’d further assess the situation to see if threats to self or other persons were realistic, imminent and executable; take action according to neutralize that threat. Anything other than that, I would what needs to be done to control and mitigate things short of use of deadly force. Basically, if I’m looking down the barrel of a gun, I’ll kill instead of be killed. In all other situations, I’ll use my brain and time and resources to deal with situation. My warrant card is not an 007 license to kill when it’s convenient for me to do so.
sometimes it's a unharmed innocent person, sometimes it's a thug out to hurt others. are we saying black people don't have arseholes in their ranks? I know whites do.
@jimmy You nor I don’t know all that happened and what we do is mainly the police version and perspective, truthful or not. I think the common understanding is the victim was a suspect of a crime, acted criminally when confronted by the police, and was shot dead while fleeing away from police. Allegedly at one point, the victim threatened police safety but did not injure, fled from that episode and was shot in the back, unarmed nor never giving any indication of being armed. So, that’s what I’m going on. It’s not hypothetical that I don’t see anything here that warrants deadly use of force to be used running away, at distance with their back turned to the user of force. Their was no urgent nor emerging situation that demanded he be murdered.
It’s time for the police to walk away from these black communities because they have lost the plot. They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Leave them to it as long as it doesn’t spill out of their hood. At least they won’t riot if it’s tit for tat stabbings/shootings from their own.
Chris Kaba had been in prison for firearms offence and involvement with active gangs - WHY are these people saying he was innocent ?....his car was flagged on a system for a reason ....theres nothing random about it
He was innocent in the context that he was shot. Having a criminal history isn't 'being guilty', that's a deeply dehumanizing and authoritarian (not to mention prejudiced) perspective.
@@josierobison1753 He was a threat in the context that he was shot. That's how driving a car towards somebody is perceived.
@@josierobison1753 That is true , but having a criminal history can be relevant as to why they were following the car . It wasnt Chris' car , but the car was the subject of intelligence from a previous offence .
Do these people actually know the facts what happened? “Could happen to any of us” jeez !
Nah, don’t do facts. I heard he was returning from visiting his sick grandma and as he was travelling down the road at 28mph he was ambushed and shot 150 times coz that’s what the police do.
Do YOU know what happened?
Driving a car involved in a firearms incident. Police chase. Driving towards the copper. The car is the weapon.
yeah im sure the police had no other way to detain someone who was in a boxed in car, the best option was clearly delivering the death penalty with no trial
@@legopenguin9 firstly you are probably anti police, but I'll play. The car was involved in a firearms incident. So that's why armed police was called. The majority of our police are not armed. The car maybe boxed in, so turn engine off and put hands on steering wheel. Not rev engine and try to run copper over. So what you're saying is the copper should die.
@@cg2200 prove it. Where you there?
@@mrman8388 Oh no! You got me.
We don’t know if that is actually what happened. Just because the police say something happened one way doesn’t mean it didn’t happen a different way. The police have been known to lie to cover for themselves.
They have to go back.
Learn the facts before you protest
Why is NOBODY SAYING that this man was a convicted criminal ,recently released from prison ..?
Doesn't matter
@@l.t.2780
Are you sure ?
Of course it does not matter !
Listen to yourself .
Person has been released form prison. I assume he paid his debt to society . Better questions is why poilce does kill people mainly black man .
It doesn't apply. You cannot use a past conviction to judge him. When was he recently released from prison?
@@Tens8a
Why not?
Getting chased by armed police happens to me all the time, don't know how it hasn't happened to me yet.
I love your sarcasm , the answer might be because your car isnt flagged up as being used in a previous crime .
These people are dangerous.
Absent father syndrome
Didn't this guy do time for carrying and suspect in a violent gang of dealers ☮️🚗🚗🚗🚓 🚦🛑🖕
So what? He deserved it, is that what you’re implying? Really vapid empty headed comment.
irrelevant
@@mrman8388 simply stopping turning the engine off .? .why ? Why?why?
@@mrman8388 you seem to have spelt relevant incorrectly.
@@TheMirrorGuy you seem to be embarrassing yourself on a few things you've posted, anything else?
Try to run down armed police in a high powered vehicle? Good riddance.
The whole country should be mourning the death of a criminal?
Yeah whatever.
The black peoples accient is so British it’s funny but all joke aside God bless you all your the best blacks no matter were u are you just so INTERNATIONAL
Career criminals are heroes
Yea, look at the queen worship.
If your crimes didn't make you rich you're a criminal.
If your crimes made you rich, its just business.
Is that the police you mean? if so you're right if not your a person out of touch
@@garriejackson9551 chris kaba was vermin and is now plant food
Non of these people know what happened and what is the protest ment to achieve? There is an investigation and the officer is suspended.
suspended on full pay and hidden. No gun was found in the car.....end of
Maybe they want an independent investigation, one that doesn’t assume the police are innocent from the outset. There may be many things that they disagree with in regards the attitude and behaviour of the police in these circumstances. I am sure if you investigate you will find their grievances and the things that could be changed to satisfy them or meet them half way.
@@mrman8388 no gun was found but no not end of! Many reasons other than a gun including what one witness claimed that he tried to ram the police with his car but you don't know that because THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION!!!
@@jujutrini8412 it's not an investigation in which the police are assumed innocent. What these people want is an investigation in which they are assumed and found guilty no matter what! That's why all these people keep on talking about unarmed when nobody including the police are making that claim!!
@@lukemurray4950 how do you know what the apparent witness said is true?. You don't know that because there's an investigation! 🤡
Looks like it all finally caught up to him. He rapped about crime in general, from drugs to killing people. I'm so sad this positive influence has been removed from the gene pool 🤣😂
If the video proves the police actions were justified then every one of these people being interviewed should be approached for a statement
And if not, what is the next step?
@@theshadow5800
I dont know, call David fucking Lammy. My point is there's a lot of jumping to conclusions here.
@@RossKempOnYourMum01 you’re right. I was just calling you out on your jump…the what if thing which artificially creates a conclusion used to buttress a solicitous argument or feeling.
A statement? Get your head out of your arse, these are people on the street, not people in the front benches of parliament!
A statement? Get your head out of your arse, these are people on the street, not people in the front benches of parliament!
I thought Kaba had Firearm markers on him and he refused the Police instructions with a gun pointed at him.
Said the same type thing about Charles de Menezes and look how that turned out
Stop defending the undefendable
@@garriejackson9551 What is undefendable?
@@garriejackson9551 you're defending a violent drug dealing gangster
@@garriejackson9551 The guy was resisting arrest..
Are they going to smash the place up like they do in America when they protest I'm a size ten trainer and prefer Nike no cheap ones though. 🇬🇧👍
Do these people look like they are smashing anything up or are they, in fact, giving their reasoned opinions in a perfectly composed manner? 🤔
@@jujutrini8412 what Andrew meant to say was E E EDL. Right Andrew?
@@dwhyte2397 no I sign off with the British flag on every comment have done for years. Why do assume me using the British flag means I'm something to do with that lot. Its very sad that you hate the country you live in and when you see the flag you think edl. 🇬🇧👍
@@jujutrini8412 things can change very quickly in a protest especially when they get together in large groups. 🇬🇧👍
@@andrewdaley5480 I thought it (your post) was funny mate, highlighting the hypocrisy without being offensive. I think wit will soon be a hate crime. 👍🏻
No it couldn't happen to anyone else.
I know only non whites
Non-white more youthful males are at the highest risk, but truth be told everyone is at serious risk and jeopardy. When a society’s government grants impunity to a class of people like police and military, it naturally results in institutionalized acts of impunity. Mix in relaxed controls (or hardly any controls in the U.S.) on firearm and you have a recipe for urban warfare. It starts small with seemingly isolated outrageous individual acts that get the public’s eye. This usually reveals a history or pattern of such behavior. Once that cat’s out of the bag, there’s little restraint to continue pretending things like this aren’t the norm. Once that’s out in the open and a large segment of the public actually realizes they’re literally prey to the predatory element of authority (police), the gloves come off. Civility takes a backseat for those that want to protect themselves from those who were suppose to be doing the protecting but instead use it as tool to oppress and destroy. The differences between the U.S. and UK are gun availability (more guns in private hands than people). The historical origins for such problems between white ruling classes and everyone else in both countries are rooted in empire, conquest, slavery, and acts of genocide that have never been properly addressed
The police have never done anything wrong ever. May Jean Charles de Menezes rest in peace and may he be remembered forever.
@@jujutrini8412 The police intel was wrong , but If he had of followed police instructions he would probably still be alive . He didnt and got shot dead because the police thought he was going to explode a bomb on a tube train . How would you have dealt with that situation ? Not shot him , potentially let him explode the bomb and kill many people .
these people need to be victims of gun crime before they know what they are talking about . The reason they are so adamant that they know who to blame and how to solve it show's their lack of insight.
It shows how racist they are. To automatically assume this was some racist police murder with no evidence is racist itself. Too much racism from black people in left unchecked!
Chris Kaba is innocent until proven guilty. The same goes for the police.
Innocently driving at Police.
Many reports suggesting he used his car as a weapon
Except one’s dead and the other will be protected and shielded from being held accountable.
Are you sure?
@@orcashorts5813 much more likely than not…the calculus is that the institution of policing has a lot more at stake and to lose if it comes out that this was murder or manslaughter and the justice system prosecutes one of its own with the same zeal it would anyone else. It’s much more in their own best interests, they’ll think, to cover up, dissemble, and manage the messaging with cooperation of the MSM banking on the collective memory of the public to forget it all over time. Of course, I am not sure, but from past similar events this is how I understand that things will unfold. It’s not a reliable stance to take to expect public institutions to admit to or correct their own misbehavior. Independent outside civilian oversight, not influenced by politics or bias, even has its difficulty in getting truth and justice into the light of day. I doubt the officer will face anything resembling an open court or tribunal. It’ll likely be “dealt with “ internally and not disclosed to the public unless considerable public pressure is brought to bear as we see in this video.
Yes it could happen to you if you drive a car at the police. Get a life and find a worthwhile cause. This is not it! Blouse.......
MLK "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" , Met continuously responsible for plethora of egregious injustices
Irony
Justice was served by the met here
You don't even know what happened here and yet you are just making wild assumptions. Much like many other racial incidents I can't wait for the truth to come out and a you racists be exposed and then you will all go quite until the next one and then you will magically forget all these incidents that you wanted to lie about instead of waiting for the facts!
@@wavell14 so you were there and found the gun?
@@wavell14 The investigation will determine that .
Innocent until proven guilty. Ok. I have little or no education of the legal system because I've never done anything.
I'll put my criminal record up against his and will state, if I behaved the way he did that night, a totally innocent man,
I'd expect to be shot too.
I follow Novara because I support workers' rights. I don't care for this nonsense.
Every single person interviewed has ignored key facts, such as a witness stating that chris kaba was using his car as a weapon. Why have they ignored this?
If that is case he should be arrested and they brought forward to our justice system NOT executed on spot like pig in slaughter house .
If you don't care about this then you're a horrible excuse of a human and the ignorance is unbelievable
That doesn't mean that he has to be shot dead. The police have the tools to stop cars without shooting people.
@@martinturtak4901 they *were* trying to arrest him. He didn't comply, he chose to drive away before driving his car towards police - who i assume shot him to save themselves being run over.
None of us know whether it was lawful or an 'execution' because we havent seen footage of the incident. Of course though, we can construct a certain narrative by only mentioning certain details such as "unarmed black man", rather than including other details such as "career criminal with a history of gun related violence, in a vehicle registered as being linked to firearm offences, shot dead after reportedly attempting to use his car as a weapon against the police officers attempting to arrest him"
@@aninjatuna8576 the gun related crime was for a replica and he has done his time for that.
These protestors are 100% right
With comments like that , you can totally understand why these people are killing each other on a daily basis.
Where is your proof that they are right?
@@stevendavis2122 daily basis??? stop talking shite
🤣🤣🤣🤣 delusional bunch
It's unbelievable how many arseholes have come out in support of the uniformed thugs who executed an unarmed man who didn't pose any threat the way the thugs claimed he did. It was an execution in broad daylight.
I'm sure you were there for the whole thing and know exactly what happened don't you, previous firearms offences, failed to stop, what if it turns out he looked like he's reaching for something? It's easy for people like you to suggest the police should wait until someone's tried to kill them before they act, I know I wouldn't, it's a tragic circumstance and I feel for the family, but acting like this guy was a perfect angel just sitting there minding his own business isn't just ridiculous, it's part of the problem
And you knoe this how? Is the witness lying when they say that chris kaba drove his car towards police officers?
@@deaddogtony1677 He didn't have previous firearms offences. Clearly you know nothing.
In broad daylight at night?
@@RealOGfikey and he’d never been in prison either?
I'm not sure if the circumstances would have been nice to have a lil context, I've not come across anything about this situation on any other news outlet, social or main stream
Yes, more information is needed. At the same time, if someone has died at the hands of the police then that deserves scrutiny and attention in and of itself. Even if it turns out to have been unavoidable, it needs to be investigated properly and not just by the police themselves and the IPCC; the police have shown no hesitation in the past to spread untruths from day 1 like they did to Stephen Lawrence's family and they cannot be allowed to make the story die as a result. There should be initial protests no matter the facts because there needs to be an incentive for the matter to be taken seriously. Stage 1, demand scrutiny, stage 2 protest wrongdoing if found.
@@jimcrelm9478 I think they just meant that they're not familiar with the case; that this is the first time they are hearing about it and this vid just jumps straight into interviews with the protesters without giving us a re-cap about what actually took place (and when, how, who, etc. - who is Chris Kaba?) - not that there shouldn't be an investigation. It's the first I've heard of it too.
It was on bbc news.
It's ironic one of these people used the word accountability, I agree, the young man should've stopped when the police told him to, acting like he's some poor innocent angel isn't going to do anyone any good, I feel for the family but what people are trying to stir up will only further divide everyone
Nobody said he was a innocent angel. You don't have to be an innocent angel to not be extrajudicially executed by the police.
@@thejosh3855 most people are framing it as "unarmed black man shot dead by police" that's a deliberate attempt to suggest he's innocent, context is everything, the truth is nobody has any right to judge what's happened until all the facts are laid out properly, I know you think using a fancy word makes you intelligent, but all it's done this time is make you look like a dramatic fairy, he didn't get chased down by some vigilante and executed, the police don't have to stand there and wait until someone points a gun in their face and shoots, if it turns out he either tried to run over the police officer or failed to show his hands then it's on him, just something else for you to think about, they don't send armed police to chase someone down who's not paid a parking ticket
@@deaddogtony1677 unarmed!!!
@@mrman8388 if only all police work could be done with hindsight, turns out it can’t, previous firearms offences, failed to stop, for all they know he’s willing to kill people to get away, they don’t have to wait until they’re staring down the barrel of a gun before they act, if he didn’t comply it’s his own fault
It is good to hear articulate young people describing how bad the policing is in this country. It’s not just black people who suffer, young white women suffer as well.
@norman smithers But we are not talking about those people at the moment. Stick to the point or go away
Pippa, why is it that when Black people speak about a very specific injustice you have the need to insist "well its us too why are is it about YOU" i could never understand this. its like you have the urge to "all live matter this" at all costs
@@PHlophe he got what he deserved
@@PHlophe To be fair it's not the words themselves, it's what they imply. Whilst "all lives matter" unfortunately usually implies that no special attention should be given to the racial element of police violence (and often it means no attention should be paid to the issue whatsoever), by contrast I think what some people are going for by mentioning misogyny is that most people are threatened by police and therefore most people should do something about it. Appealing to people's empathy and good nature (almost their charity) will only go so far. That's idealism. But there's an opportunity for actual mutualism here. That's not to say we are all treated the same, just that there's an opportunity for something like a coalition if both groups can speak up. Not competing for the limelight (yes, including white women monopolising the issue) but raising the profile of the issue together.
With that said, is there anything specific that you think more people should know about? Or actions they should take?
I also want to say that maybe I agree, maybe unity isn't always good - different groups will have different aims, like reform versus abolition, or freedom from violence for only middle class people (while keeping police around to control those who aren't doing so well out of the current economic system) versus working class/all people. That applies within the feminist movement though, not just womens' liberation versus black liberation. There will always be these kinds of traitors and so no unity can last forever. But that's way down the line and like I say, I think what some people want is to bring people into the cause, with the sense of urgency that comes from being directly threatened the impunity that the police have and the role they play.
Well UK can defund the police force as these liberal left wingers with tunnel vision want
So criminals like Mr kaba can roam streets with impunity
He was asked to stop failed to do so tried to run over police officer
If he obeyed the officers he would be alive
But he's a career criminal so he did not obey unfortunately he's now dead
Its up to judicial system know to decide
Hopefully day never comes when criminals walk the .streets with no police to stop them
Because that's what this lot of idiots want
You are not innocent until proven guilty. You are presumed innocent.
Are you sure?
@@orcashorts5813 yes, 100%
Unless you are actually trying to kill a policeman
The support a dead colonizing monarch gets compared to the hate given to a powerless individual is insane.
Maybe because the monarch is seen as a role model by so many civilised people …. And then you have mr kaba a felon , powerless in mind but his vehicle was used as a weapon ….
The irony of calling the decolonising monarch 'colonising' (that's how you spell it by the way) is hilarious
@@msnaomijacques6344 bot. The Uk isn’t a federation so he’s committed no federal crime and therefore isn’t a felon.
Also the only reason the Queen isn’t officially a criminal is because a sovereign has immunity from civil and criminal investigation and can’t be arrested.
Her daughter has a criminal record though, pleaded guilty to speeding and to allowing her dangerous dog to attack people. I presume you will be calling for her summary execution by police?
@@wavell14 yeah it’s not like war crimes happened on her watch such as the imprisonment and torture of the Mau Mau from 52-60, or like britain still claims territories around the world.
@@makslargu5799 Chris Kaba got put in a spliff
Looking at some of these comments, I am quite surprised that left wing channel Novara Media has so many right wing viewers!
Unsurprisingly many of these same commenters probably concur with Novara’s content on class but not race 🥴🫠😂
@@DoubleA88 Then surely they can simply just not watch the video?
Its not like it was a deceptive thumbnail or title. The video was clearly about Kaba.
@@pancakingon agreed, I suspect they encountered that strange internet feeling where one feels compelled to comment on something they are disinterested in to let us know they are disinterested in said topic
Does it not go beyond left and right, class or race? I thought the issue was about right and wrong not politics.
@@andrewmycock2203 Yes, but don't the right tend to support police more and/or are more punitive? That was my understanding at least
By the same token our politicians are incapable they are also unable to explain when the public have high emotions without all of the facts.
Rest in peace
Are you sure
He's burning in hell
Is there really a god ? A world divided by religion, politics ,class ,and race to name just a few ,is a world destined for doom.
There's a problem with the script here where are the killers of xxxxx
🤫 Because of the insecurity and unstable country in the uk England I am now looking at moving away to another part of the world In the uk now there are just too many bad apples It's the case of here we go again Each day more conflicts About the security and People are hard enough Also just completely being forked off all the time We are going back to the seventies Who trusts who
When you find a safe haven that will welcome you and others, let everyone else know.
The shadow- yes with unlimited benefits!
Go on then
@@wavell14 You seem to have stumbled away from The Daily Express comment section by mistake.
@@MissBlennerhassett876 I'm Polish
I bet mandu has never cooked food in her life
How come the face of the police man is not put out?
How come the discrption is not put out by the news when certain ethnicity commit serious crimes. 🇬🇧👍❓
It is not established whether or not what the police did was unlawful. Unlike in the US, it is understood in the UK that in certain circumstances people have a right to anonymity.
@@guntguardian3771 how is giving out ethnicity a breach of anonymity. Surely either giving out there name age etc or photograph is
@@andrewdaley5480 they always do when it's an ethnic or Muslim person.
@@abduluddin9928 I know that the government's have an agenda they are try to destroy the fabric off society then we are easier to control.
This is better guys real outrage ,not David Beckham in a queue 👏 ☮✊
David was bidding for a Peerage title or a Dukedom of some sort. he wasn't there for a deceased centenial.
People are sick of black people whinging about dead criminals.
@@PHlophe and you know that for a fact do you
To those saying "well he resisted arrest", "a witness said he had a weapon":
He was killed by another human being, that is called murder, stop trying to justify it
To those who say whenever there's a police incident there's people claiming its being unnecessarily made a racial issue
how many instances do you need for a coincidence to be a pattern?
If you're here you've probably got some sense to not ignore facts to make yourself feel safe, so why are you doing it now?
No, being killed by another human being is not murder...there are many cases in which it is not.
You are so uninformed, it's a joke.
Is there not a process. Many of these people talk as if they know exactly what happened that night/incident. Anyone who had been involved in a legal matter or a work investigation knows it does not just happen in a few hours but this is largely the problem with most people they have no idea how many working parts there are to things and also has to be fit into work that people are already involved in.
Well done to all the protester's your doing a great job and I'm right behind you.x
Why are they doing a good job? Nobody knows the facts of the case yet. Reports seem to be that he tried to ram people with his car. If that turns out to be true, will all these people issue an apology? I don't think so.
A cops family in canada is feeling the pain of having a loved one taken. how you feeling now.
when pain isn't felt personally there is zero empathy
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The Police are wretched, they don't really respect the law, they think they're the judge and jury, and go about as they see fit. I've seen them edit reports to fit their agenda, even discard and fabricate evidence, lie, manipulate, and make feeble excuses, then just ignore you.
There would of been plenty of traffic camera's recording, dash cam footage from those Police cars, and even camera's on their uniforms. They can quickly cover it up though, even destroy evidence to protect themselves, I've seen it done, they know how play the system and get away with it.
You have to act quickly, so they can't destroy that CCTV footage and work togeather to make up a story that fits, don't let them waste time, it'll work in their favour.
His own family seem to be backing off, now. You'd think, having seen the footage, that they'd want the racist cop's arse. Very strange.
Awaiting the whitewash
Need to start dividing countries into left and right so we’ll all live in harmony.
Solidarity!
2:05 what the hell is that
That last Birds Eye’s are in different postcodes. Filthy thing