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Come on man we have said over and over don't make Moctezuma primary. Moctezuma primary only works if for some insane reason you go with a full Leadership gear set.
I still remember when lilith doesnt gave me my purchases. My money reduced but i didnt got what I bought. I suggest you guys to leave this game before you wasting your time
They exist because Lilith cares less about balance and more about people blowing their banks on the game and making Lilith richer by the minute. That is why even the museum buffs are *mostly* a joke. Only a handful of those buffs are decent and even they don't put the older commanders anywhere near this absurd power creep that is happening in RoK.
I don't think even a musuem buff can save them at this point lol. Nice video though! Also Chisgule is really letting cod taking over his brain, calling commanders hero's lol
Lu Bu idea: Lilith creates a version of Lu Bu that's historically accurate rather than being a Dynasty Warriors collab, just to do his name at least a little more justice.
When Suleiman gives the enemy 50 rage, the enemy might activate their active skill before suleiman does. And after the enemy cast their skill, suleiman will cast his active skill meanwhile the enemy have low rage. and, when the enemy cast their active skill, suleiman 50% plus damage will trigger.
I have to argue that Suleiman is trash because he doesn't have anyone to pair with. All other leadership rally commanders are gen one and two where they're useless for rallying flags. His kit needs a high damage secondary commander but Honda's damage is halved as secondary.
Hey Chisgule.. can you make a vid about the spear in Cod. No idea how it works I’ve had it since it’s gone out. Hated it and haven’t used it for a while. Thanks
I mean to be fair ALL suleiman skills are insanely good but the devs LITERALLY laid traps on his kit which makes you wonder " is that a money bait?" So first trap, gis first skill debuff is INSAN, but there are 2 traps in this skill. Trap #1 TOO many sources apply those debuffs. #2 It ONLY lasts 2 seconds which does not justify his low skill dmg. And then his third or 4th skill is INSANE but the trap is THERE IS NO MIXED TROOP rally in this game, it is not possible and i've been ASKING for years for them to fivw mixed troops some love. Mixed troop rally is just NOT possible. 3-his expertise is legit click bait and trap, 50 rage to enemies is too much and 200 dmg factor is too little. 200 dmg factor that will last 2-3 seconds is still 600 ar best which is lower than EVEN epics. Suleiman skills are an example of A bad a very very fun and good design can be. An example of how easy is it to mess it up.
It actually shows the devs are just lazy.I mean Barca still as a VIP cash commander is disgraceful.I never understood why they cant change up their early stuff
Hey chis! I'm entering kvk 3 and I'm wondering after I expertise zl, should I go back and expertise ysg? I have been uncertain about this lately and would like someone else opinion
@@golden_legend6188 again, by the time you max someone like Boudica to pair with ZL, and someone that would be a primary to YSG, there will be another archer to fill ysgs roll as secondary in a second march.
Lilith has always had a bit of a problem with Legendary commanders. They didn't do enough historical work (Cleo should not be leg.) and brought out too many commanders too fast. They need to get those museum buffs out to make some of these commanders more relevant.
Chisg. make it an event and give that skill reset token when you enter Soc, that way you can use your legendary sculptures on any commander till then without fearing that youre investing badly . This is allow people to invest in Alex , richard, any Gen 2 commanders without feeling like they wasted their investment.
bro those siege stats are amazing, there will be one day you will just suicide your siege , well at least they can die with greater stats :D awasome video tho
He's one of the best when they released it the first time and is actually balance before. These days, "balance" commanders really is not a thing. Every commander release is just broken.
Seeya chiz I'm quitting rok. It's nothing but a p2w game if you don't play your cards exactly right in my opinion. I still enjoyed your vids over the years though.
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Come on man we have said over and over don't make Moctezuma primary.
Moctezuma primary only works if for some insane reason you go with a full Leadership gear set.
haven't seen ya in a while, how's the game doing?
@@john2g1 haha no, aimed at Chisgule lol
Got some good reports with Barca in end game
I still remember when lilith doesnt gave me my purchases.
My money reduced but i didnt got what I bought.
I suggest you guys to leave this game before you wasting your time
As a guy who likes history, the urge to expertise garbage commanders, who I personally like as historical figures, overwhelms me.
Me with Amanitore
fr with hannibal and genghis
This is beyond relatable.
They exist because Lilith cares less about balance and more about people blowing their banks on the game and making Lilith richer by the minute. That is why even the museum buffs are *mostly* a joke. Only a handful of those buffs are decent and even they don't put the older commanders anywhere near this absurd power creep that is happening in RoK.
Agree
I couldn't agree any more with this comment 😅 well said
@@michealhill8 Yup, I've been playing RoK for almost 6 years now, its fun & I know how it works but the system is predatory.
@@DiligentGamingCA6 years? After rok had 5th anniverary? 🤔
@@Clownfish3377 Lol ok I meant 5 years, I started in 2018.
I honestly downloaded Rise of Kingdoms as a joke, but then I realized how fun and complex this game can be
Same here 😅
Half the people here😅
The adds are to cringe
I don't think even a musuem buff can save them at this point lol. Nice video though!
Also Chisgule is really letting cod taking over his brain, calling commanders hero's lol
I used Lu Bu heavy in 2020. Now I have this urge to honor him for his efforts early game for me and EXPERTISE him!
Don't you dare T_T
Oh no
Lu Bu idea: Lilith creates a version of Lu Bu that's historically accurate rather than being a Dynasty Warriors collab, just to do his name at least a little more justice.
Lu bo 😉
When Suleiman gives the enemy 50 rage, the enemy might activate their active skill before suleiman does. And after the enemy cast their skill, suleiman will cast his active skill meanwhile the enemy have low rage. and, when the enemy cast their active skill, suleiman 50% plus damage will trigger.
I knew Suleiman was going to be here, but him being first is heartbreaking 😭, only a rework will save him
Thanks for the information I wish Leonaides gets a buff he looks so cool
He needs movement speed
I have to argue that Suleiman is trash because he doesn't have anyone to pair with. All other leadership rally commanders are gen one and two where they're useless for rallying flags. His kit needs a high damage secondary commander but Honda's damage is halved as secondary.
Hey Chisgule.. can you make a vid about the spear in Cod. No idea how it works I’ve had it since it’s gone out. Hated it and haven’t used it for a while. Thanks
I'm not expecting El Cid to not be in this list.
Well Ragnars "real world history" is probably something to not believe that much in. Historians thinks he might be several people smashed into one.
Thats a lot of these European & Asian commanders in the game. Thats why I dont get why they can pass that same exception to African commanders
I mean to be fair ALL suleiman skills are insanely good but the devs LITERALLY laid traps on his kit which makes you wonder " is that a money bait?" So first trap, gis first skill debuff is INSAN, but there are 2 traps in this skill.
Trap
#1 TOO many sources apply those debuffs.
#2 It ONLY lasts 2 seconds which does not justify his low skill dmg.
And then his third or 4th skill is INSANE but the trap is THERE IS NO MIXED TROOP rally in this game, it is not possible and i've been ASKING for years for them to fivw mixed troops some love.
Mixed troop rally is just NOT possible.
3-his expertise is legit click bait and trap, 50 rage to enemies is too much and 200 dmg factor is too little. 200 dmg factor that will last 2-3 seconds is still 600 ar best which is lower than EVEN epics.
Suleiman skills are an example of A bad a very very fun and good design can be. An example of how easy is it to mess it up.
And every of these 5 commanders are leadership and 4 of them conquering 🤣
They really don't like leadership commanders
Since Lilith confirmed more vip levels they should have a full 700 scultpures for a commander at 20 and make him soc level.
That wouldn’t be a bad idea but the commander couldn’t be absolutely broken, imagine not being able to get Nevsky when he came out
It actually shows the devs are just lazy.I mean Barca still as a VIP cash commander is disgraceful.I never understood why they cant change up their early stuff
i bought barca only because i like to see a lot of legendary commanders shinning😊
just whale thing
Hi there I need your advice on what commanders I should focus on for kvk after light and dark please
12:01 if i had that i would actually consider getting full legenadry siege sett and make a aiege garrison march so our kd can dump siege usefully
Caesar is underappreciated
Khan is just...... :(( they did him dirty that he's like not a legendary commander anymore 😭
I bought Barca because frankly I have to much money and he is good for filling stuff up when paired with Ceaswr
F L E X
Hey chis! I'm entering kvk 3 and I'm wondering after I expertise zl, should I go back and expertise ysg? I have been uncertain about this lately and would like someone else opinion
No, go do the rest of the soc commanders. By the time you would need YSG, there will be another better archer commanders
@@TAETO1585 are you sure? His circular aoe seems very powerful and helpful as a second archer army
Go to boudica prime,
@@golden_legend6188 again, by the time you max someone like Boudica to pair with ZL, and someone that would be a primary to YSG, there will be another archer to fill ysgs roll as secondary in a second march.
Lilith has always had a bit of a problem with Legendary commanders. They didn't do enough historical work (Cleo should not be leg.) and brought out too many commanders too fast. They need to get those museum buffs out to make some of these commanders more relevant.
You should do a early game pairs because of the new upcoming commanders
17:20 no, suleiman came with honda
And Hannibal is on the thumbnail. Poor dude. I got him exprites not because of achievement but I need books for my castle arrows.
Barca makes no sense, if Lilith wants us to spend why not make him OP everyone would buy it?
Chisg. make it an event and give that skill reset token when you enter Soc, that way you can use your legendary sculptures on any commander till then without fearing that youre investing badly .
This is allow people to invest in Alex , richard, any Gen 2 commanders without feeling like they wasted their investment.
Banana helmet really needs a 1000 rage cycle…
Put him behind XY 😂😂
@@DDKKAYEdward is supposed to be primary
Is cao cao good?
LuBu is considered the strongest general of all Chinese history they did him dirty
the fact that hannibal barca is that bad in the game is kind of disrespectfull, when was the one who put rome on its knees
They got him having red hair Lilith clearly had no idea what to do with Hannibal
Charlemagne is my rune fetcher and flag builder😂
Hello 👋 you audio was cutting in and out a little
Gg well played
Is anyone of this commanders actually worse than an epic like Bjorn or Sun Tzu?
Thats banana helmit i get him at wheel of fortune and i regret it also
bro those siege stats are amazing, there will be one day you will just suicide your siege , well at least they can die with greater stats :D
awasome video tho
Honda was rolled out with Suleiman fyi :P
Hanibal can be replaced by the new epic,no?
Are reworks not a thing in rok? Just change the skills completely if they suck man not just buff-nerf
16:42 XDD
Lilith should rework some of this commanders instead of releasing new one,but then again lilith need money
I got Cleo yesterday
It’s crazy how crap GK is being one of the most legendary conquerors of all time lol
He's one of the best when they released it the first time and is actually balance before. These days, "balance" commanders really is not a thing. Every commander release is just broken.
Lilith should let us retake gold heads on Edward 😂😂 just 30% enough
Seeya chiz I'm quitting rok. It's nothing but a p2w game if you don't play your cards exactly right in my opinion. I still enjoyed your vids over the years though.
At least they have good use in Orleans kvk
I wish call of dragons had as much commanders as rok
That ragnar shaggy pants was my mistake to use univ gh on him when im just getting started playing this game regreting decision 😢
Suleiman was absolutely horrible 😂😂
Did he really ask why they are in the game? Maybe because someone has to be the worst and the best 🤔
prime LuBu incoming, new cav commander 🤣
Hannibal shouldn’t be a vip 10 commander 😐
Thanks man, kd 1243
Montesuma 🤓🤓🤓
Hannibal is special
trajan was way before sul, honda was with sul
Mocte is ok for barb chaining. Ofc dont invest in him but he do have an very small role in this game
They shouldve given him circular AOE
What about Fredrick 🤣
Says the guy who maxxed Moctezuma
Exactly, I would know! Haha
what a joke. i have 3 commanders expertised among worst 5!
Where are Theo and Wu? They can only be used in garrisons but get overpowered easily. They suck at their only purpose.🤣
Why they made sultan süleyman so bad in the game 😢
Stop the Charlemagne slander 😤
Maybe you are going to add *Pyrrhus*
Hi
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Rok is a joke in general
Gg well played