Soy Boy vs Dairy Boy: Which Are You?
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2024
- What's a 'dairy boy'? What's a 'soy boy'?
In today’s video, we dive deep into the widespread myths and misconceptions surrounding soy consumption, estrogen levels, and their alleged impact on masculinity. get ready for an in-depth analysis of estrogen in soy and dairy products. How do they really affect our bodies and why has soy been singled out?
Are you a dairy boy? Or are you a soy boy? Let us know in the comments!
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I suffered with gyno for years until i gave up meat & dairy. I switched back to pesco at one point and could only eat white fish to limit the soreness. Since turning vegan in 2019, the gyno has never once reappeared. ANIMAL produce affects hormone balance! 🌱💪
So believable! I had a duodenal ulcer and a hiatus hernia and they both were cured after I dropped dairy. Confirmed by an endoscopy.
happy for you. so youre an ethical vegan? no animal skin and stuff? please join us in activism we need more activists
@@MercyForTheInnocent I am.. the comment sounds like I didn’t turn for moral reasons but thats not the case, just happened to be pescatarian before I switched 🌱👊🏼
@@plantgeezer ahaa.. what a legend. thank you for choosing compassion.
Addicts will always defend their addiction with every excuse and attack those who point out their addiction. Consuming animal products, especially meat and dairy is a physical addiction.
They're so afraid of phytoestrogens & then turn around & drink beer every day... the irony *lol
You are right as hops has much more phyto estrogens than soy ever dreamed of!
Whenever I get confronted with the manboob or effeminate argument, as an Asian myself I usually first answer with "Are you looking down on the whole history of East Asia and all its men?" The shock value of such a statement usually gives them pause and really gets them questioning their claims. Historically, soy has been a staple food and much more important (due to availability) than meat. It's only in recent years where meat has been readily available.
i don't know about estrogen level but man boobs are mostly caused by dairy product and it also causing obesity
Every overweight person I've ever seen eats tons of animal products.
Soy does not cause it either, scientific consensus proves it
When McDonalds first came to China GPs actually noticed a significant increase in breast size in young women who would regularly eat there
@@ScheveSneeuwSchuifSchep Nice.
Not true.
My father had loads of dairy, especially fresh cream.
It's what is put into the cattle - and more.
A lot of it is due to altrazine and other hormone altering chemicals deliberately put into water and all we consume.
A whole shoal of river fish were taken to extinction by having their hormones feminised. All of the males literally became female and of course they couldn't procreate.
I would rather hear anger about that than anger against the male human victims. Obviously it affects some more than others - especially those younger.
Incidentally, it isn't the soy but the way it's processed and far too much of it in ways it isn't supposed to be consumed.
Bullies think they are the real men, it fact they are the biggest cowards
Terrified to have their cognitive dissonance challenged.
They're always the first to close off communication when they're challenged.@@jameslittle5214
Love my tofu and not seeing animals suffer! Also i have high testosterone, 9 years plant based!
exactly the same for me. 9 years Vegan and high testosterone in my 51 :)
Is that what your wife’s boyfriend said?
@@TheRealPatriot69 nah its what you’re Dad’s boyfriend said.
@@jessebest3006 nahhh bro that’s what your mom said while she was humming on my 🐓 and 🥎 🥎
@@TheRealPatriot69 nasty bro 🤮
If you ever want to hear someone sound completely asinine, have that person argue against veganism. It's true even for the likes of Neil deGrasse Tyson.
No good arguments exist so they resort to nonsense. Just say they are weak addicts and like it, since that is the only honest reason, but most are liars
Neil was bought and paid for early on. The number of times that guy has come off sounding moronic, far and away more often than he has come off sounding like he knows what he is talking about. Even his volcal tonality is a facade.
@@slartibartfast2452I don't think he was bought. He's just a classic case of fame getting to ones head and thinking that he knows more than he does outside of his field of expertise. Just because you're an expert in one field doesn't mean you know something about another. Humble and intellectually honest people know this. Neil lost that years ago, if he ever had it.
Why would people care to argue against veganism, eat what you like.
naa i have seen vegan do exactly that: be annoying as possible.
This is so funny. How many years have Americans started drinking soy milk or eating soy products? Asians have been eating soy since time immemorial and there aren’t men with men boobs! Especially in China and Japan wherein they eat tons of soybean products from morning till night: eating several kinds of tofus, natto, tempeh, seitan, soy sauce, miso, kinako soy milk and lots of other products and they are not ultra processed food💚
Dairy Fairy*
I was going to say that😂The hormones in dairy turn men into fairies lol.
@@spandel100exactly!
but using the word fairy as an insult is no better... I'm personly strong enough to laugh about it, when someone calls, me [gay AND vegan], soy boy, xyz fairy.., feminine, faq, or what ever... but not all LGBTIQ people are as settled in their personality
@@saschathinius7082 People need to stop being so sensitive. But that's just my opinion.
@@saschathinius7082 Not as an insult,but a retort. Its only fair.
People should be accountable for the misinformation they spread. This is the only way to stop industries and lobbies from manipulating the masses.
Soy girl for life❤
Sorry but people who take anything that Joe Rogan says serious, can't be helped... they are lost
3:15 ''its a candle man'' LMFAO 🤣
You know you're secure in your manhood when a candle made of soy sitting inert in your room would threaten it.
Thank you for taking the time to put this video together...amazing work! 🌱💚✌🏽
You know these guys HAVE to say this about meat and whey protein(!, of all things) to be very masculine, TO COVER UP THEIR ABUSE OF STEROIDS AND OTHER STUFF.
Who is the “My work isn’t peer reviewed” video creator? That was perfect, lmao…
He's totally on point 💯
The argument is simple. When someone mentions soy boy they clearly have no idea what they are talking about regarding soy so don't bother engaging outside of asking them to tell you about estrogen receptors A & B, which one the phytoestrogens bind to and how blocking estrogen is beneficial.
Proper science is wasted. I have just read in a comment beneath a pro carnivore video that vitamin A in your liver from eating foods rich in carotenoids is bad for you. They used its longer chemical name of course, to make it sound convincing, no carnivore who reads “yellow and orange vegetables are bad for you” are going to fact check.
This is so excellent in so many ways.
Actually, soy is one of the best longevity and protein foods on this planet. This has tons of research behind it. Very high in spermidine, very high in glycine and very high in phytonutrients. All of the compounds longevity research screams about. Ofcourse, the dairy lobby has done everything in it's power to stop milk alternatives. GMO Soy is also something I avoid myself, but it's easy here in Europe.
Superb. Thank you for this. Ironically (for meat-heads) we could do with some 'feminising' right now, given that we currently seem too busy fighting each other to fight climate change.
Most comments the anti vegans say are so low level.
@@RexBuyeoIt's proven that it doesn't both for men and women
Scientific consensus says it doesn't for males nor females
@@RexBuyeo Yeah, the boob enlargement industry would go bust if that was the case ;)
Glad you are back creating. Well done Joe. Where are you living now.
It's somehow sad video's like this are needed to counter all the BS out there...
If Rogan is so determined to avoid all soya he had better not eat the cattle or chickens who've been fed soya. Rogan must have similar views about the millions of Japanese and Chinese men who eat soya. Soya consumption doesn't seem to have a detrimental effect on their fertility as is proved by their huge populations. Hulse suggests that eating soya will prevent people from building muscle. The cattle and chicken victims on farms, who are fed soya, manage to put on a lot of muscle for people to eat. I call men who drink animal milk babyboys because it is for babies.
Rogan is indeed very insecure. I’m willing to bet that he suffers from ED as well. 😂😂
Ever heard of Grass fed beef...
@@mrbeanie5314 Yes.
@@mrbeanie5314 🙂 Animal products can cause damage to various arteries including those leading to the brain.
@@mrbeanie5314 Thats literally less than 5% of all meat. Also grassfed is a marketing term that usually means cows in a feed lot eating hay from a trough.
This is an amazing video❤ people need to seriously understand the biochemistry of phytoestrogens and the power of them to actually provide support to the human body to be able to flush excess actual estrogen out of the system! PHYTOESTROGENS ARE NOT ESTROGEN!
Great job on the video!
One thing I've noticed as the years go on is that more die hard meat eaters prefer alternative milks to dairy. Even without believing in veganism, most (predominantly younger people granted) agree it's weird to breastfeed from another animal
EXCELLENT VIDEO!💚💚💚
Soyboy for LIFE
Lol
Damn! That was a brilliant video.
Oh, I’d like to see that “naughty nutritionist “ debate Dr. Greger😜
Dairy Fairy is more apt ;)
Tofu was one of Bruce Lee's favorite foods. Does he look "feminine" to you, meat-eaters?
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Top quality content!!
Yes yes yes! So very well put. I noticed this comment in one of Joey Carbstrong's threads and it's so very pertinent, I feel the need repeat it here...
With regards to every argument I've heard thus far against veganism...
Their arguments really always turn out to be against caring.
Great video
I've been calling them cowboys for years.
you've been insulting that word for years
I'm a soy boy too! :)
I grew up in “dairy country.” Oh, how I wish I knew this information 40 years ago! 😭
Those of us who eat plant based will outlive the ones who don't, so I just let them say whatever makes them feel better and ignore them.
We should always speak up for the innocent animals given the chance though. 🙄
Tell that you all the vegans who are quitting the diet to eat meat 😊
Great Video!
Gym bros say what they want to hear. They don't listen to science because science supports plant-based diets for humans, especially WFPB.
If studies show that people live longer on a plant-based diet, would you concede that it's possible that a small percentage of people thrive and benefit from animal-based diets who are not being picked up by the studies? If not, you should consider it.
@@limitisillusion7Neanderthals? lol
@@limitisillusion7 I would concede that there are people who live longer lives in spite of eating a high animal product diet. There are people who live into their nineties smoking two packs a day and drinking tons of alcohol every day.
Science doesn't support plant based. Science is fine with plant based. Science is perfectly fine with meat too.
As a general rule I never take advice from people that look like muscled action figures or that say that men aren't as manly as they used to be. Just simple ref flags based of facts.
28:40 this is the most wholesome pro-man, neomasculine video I've ever seen
OMG... Men are wearing floral shirts!!!
Damn, East Asia uses quite a bit of soy and has male-dominated societies. How do the anti-soy adherents address this.
Don't go to Hawaii....
Thank you
Joe!! 👏🏽👏🏽
I thought I would never see you again! I’ve often wondered how you were doing with your diabetes and if you were okay ❤
Joe is such joy to watch. Very entertaining video.
Yes, been saying this for years! 😂 (The Dairy Boy stuff!)
Thank you❤
Great video. I also really love the artwork... beautiful ❤
Milk is for babies.
Milk is for baby cows
I'm a water boy. Why do adults drink milk?
dairy fairy, not dairy boy lol
God I haven’t seen Joe in years since everyone at Durian Freak’s festival tried to drive him out of the community for being weird around the girls. Crazy that this guy is still around lol
🌱🤜🤛💯
I pulled a muscle from these mental gymnastics.
Dairy boy not a soy boy. It's a compliment to be called a soy boy.
I hope that if I share this video with my mom she’ll let me have soy milk because I always wanted to taste it
The Ones with the biggest egos need to use the smallest and weakest excuses to keep going with their crap :)
Easy Fact: There is no Manly thing in paying someone to abuse innocent beings.
More like *fragile* egos.
true
@@olgakim4848
Take your own advice and lead by example. Be the change you want to see and remove your ego from it. That means more action and less of the egotistical moral superiority complex. You contradicted your advice with your ad hominems. You allowed you ego to attack another human, just like the "manly" meat eater allows their ego to claim superiority over the animal. Attack your opposition, and you'll get more pushback.
This simple thing their pea nut brain just can't comprehend.
Shouldn't any real adult introspect instead of trying to come off as a disingenious paid troll online ? Even childrens are more intelligent than these grown up idiots.
At the end it's all about money if you really think. Ppl don't realise what someone can do for money.
Fascinating video, very well presented and argued. So given the stubborness that the dairy drinkers are showing, what might get them out of this Us and Them stance that has been created between themselves and vegans? Maybe it'll just be time. When the world is 99% vegan their soyboy argument will disappear. Fantastic topic, nice one guys.
😂ironic really. I drink dairy. And eat soy. And eat meat.
@@gur262nothing to be proud or mock about drinking someone's breast milk and taking someone's life for your taste buds. Do better .
Neither. I don't eat dairy or soy.
My doctor says that I have great estrogen levels, which is fantastic because when women hit menopause, they lose estrogen and their sex drive goes down. Just a female fyi.
I’m a soy boy
For all those who use the term "Soy Boy', you're a "Dairy Fairy"
16:20 I'm suuure this won't be taken out of context. ^^
yes soyboy no milk for me. Prostate problems from dairy
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0:55 😂
Contrary to popular belief, syntheticly processed soy and dairy won't feminize men, but they can decrease testosterone and will fatten people in general.
People are dumb and want to agree with famous/rich people to be cool.
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So it's ok for the cow to eat the soy, but not a human.
Im a proud soyboy, as in I drink soy milk.
We're never going to get those who don't already agree with us to consume this knowledge when we lead with insults. They won't watch more than 60 seconds.
We must meet the opposing side where they are (insecure, unaware and prejudiced). The 2nd half of the video was fine.
A couple of glaring ironies on this topic.
First is testosterone and other androgens =male/masculine, oestrogens and progesterone = female/feminine/ effeminate.
The endocrine system is a complex interactive system, and all people produce all the hormones, it's the concentrations and balancing mechanisms that are significant....and yes we can interfere with that balancing mechanism with excessive metabolically active sources. Anabolic steroids, famously known for performance enhancing and muscle building, widely used in gyms to produce the "masculine " physique, and based on testosterone, have very femininising effects, such as, genital shrinkage, erectile dysfunction and low sperm counts. That's testosterone, not oestrogen. Balance is crucial for positive health effects.
Venturing into the socially more controversial ironies on the perception of effeminate, the male gay community usually get targeted on this characteristic...yet in my youth the main bodybuilding gym in the town was absolutely dominated by the large gay community and if you want to harp on the shallow visual anesthetics, which is often compelling, I'll admit, no nightclub in the town had members displaying the muscular physiology like the gay disco. How exactly are people looking to ring fence the definition of effeminate according to cultural cliques?
Milk Boy sounds a lot easier to say
im oat boy
its just a cope. They have a thinly defined and materialist sense about what masculinity is. Its not a fully formed concept at all, and its just used to delineate for the user of the term who is part of their ideological team and who is not.
I think the vegan community does this as well but in reverse. The lables are meaningless. The actions are what matters.
I think “Dairy Fairy” is a funnier term lol
I'm a soy Person!
Change the title to DAIRY FAIRY mate !!
You missed the opportunity to create the term "Dairy Dandy."
vegan gains, earthling ed, happy healthy vegan, you can't tell me soy hasn't had an effect on their feminine characteristics over the years.
It is MILKBOY!
Whoa it's KFC Joe!!
what do you mean by saying it makes your body more feminine, but not your character? don't you know that the mind and body are deeply connected?
I'd rather be a soy boy now it's help me lose my moobs and zits.
🤔
Bluebell Boy
Soyboy
So I guess this means all the things applied to soyboys, are actually about dairy boys. Such as weight gain and decrease in testosterone.
😂😂😂
Love soy milk. Love soy boys!
The point I make to people if they have a go at me for my plant base habits: Enjoy your ppiles! They are also macho meat eaters.
I think Layne Norton debunked this a ways back as well. Drink what you want/like. I stick to Fairlife milk with half the sugar and extra protein. I remember during Covid trying out a bunch of plant based alternatives and they just don't have the taste right yet. If they ever get better at it I might try it again. Never say never.
They tasted a bit funny for me too after a lifetime of drinking dairy milk but the taste got a lot better quick
it is probably the taste of puss or the taste of Urin, feces and desparation/angony that you are missing in the plant based alternatives... Yes they taste different but not bad, just different
@@saschathinius7082 I have no interest in paying more for less so I'll stick to Fairlife until they come up with a better formulation. Same with eggs. The substitutes may be ok if you bake with it but if you actually eat eggs they are terrible and you pay a huge premium for it. No thanks.
Is “fairlife” milk from a cow? If it is then the name is the perfect troll moment!
@@dystopiaeatsmoney It's ultra filtered milk from a cow which has half the sugar and 50% more protein. That's my only interest in it. Don't care about the ethics behind the name.
People use the excuse is it is their sexuality.
Also women claim they want men like that, but then not happy when they are.
Haha
I feel pretty on the inside. 💋
Yup but we dont need any processed tofu or soy at all and we dont need dairy neither.
Tofu is easily made at home. It's minimally processed. It's not an unhealthy food item.
Maybe but i mean we dont have to choose between soy/tofu and dairy
Yeah, you don't need either but soy products are a good healthy source of calories/protein if you choose so. But you could choose other legumes instead if you choose. Every one of the blue zones include a legume as a staple so probably a good idea to at least choose one or a variety of them and that can include soy or not. Other ones are just as good.
We dont need any legumes neither, the protein need is very low for the vast majority of people who dont want to build a big amount of muscles, as studies showed 0.5-0.6 gr per kg of healthy body weight.@@BM1982.V2
The common recommendation is 0.8gr/kg because there is a margin to cover all populations.
Even if all that were true, you can play it safe by eating soy like tofu about once a week. Like I do.