Does Your TV Sound Suck? Upgrade it for CHEAP!
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2024
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You should put a full 50w to that lil sub and let it eat just for fun
I am pretty sure 50w would tickle that sub to death. The magic smoke might even come out.
I've got an Old School Yamaha 2.1 Sound Bar with Fiber input. it's like 50x2 and 100x1 LOVE IT!! it even has a BlueTooth app that I can use to control it from my phone (not just BT audio)
I finally downsized to a used LG soundbar from 2011. Gotta say the sound is much much better than I expected. Especially for 20 bucks
Most definitely when I was with my Canadian ex I set my computer up in the back laundry room first it was on the dryers side but then I got the bright idea to use the smaller area that way I could do my videos and have some privacy with hanging up a curtain using steel piping and fitting my grandfather acquired for the project so I ended up buying a 65 inch tv so I could watch movies and play my ps4 but realized I needed a better sound bar so I found a 4.1 Samsung sound bar for around fairly cheap I’m wanting to say around 200-300 it may have been less however it served its purpose gave me great audio for gaming and watching movies along with listening to music but I will be putting into my moms room so she can have better audio the reason I’m letting her eventually use it is because I have a full surround sound system running in atmos so 5.1.2 though the Sony receiver I have can do 7.2 and 5.2.2 so if I really wanted to I could add a second subwoofer…but I’m good as my room isn’t insanely huge and I think one subwoofer works plenty I feel like if I added another it would be too much and unbearable and would drown out the main speakers including the surrounds and height speakers, bass is good too much bass can have the opposite effect on the listening experience and immersion!
This looks like a fantastic unit for DIY modders/tinkerers
It was really surprising to me, I expected total junk honestly
Dereck, I would bet they use those 5.25" woofers in many different devices so, theyre a "one size fits all" solution for the company and they just get them in bulk to put in everything.
Also, those little sound bar speakers look like mini versions of the old school Boston Acoustic 6x9 subwoofers. Remember those?
It certainly makes sense to spend as little as possible on this stuff. I even looked at Rtings, and even when you spend a few hundred dollars you get bizarre frequency response.
Sound bars are good for small apartments or rooms with limited space fact is I used a sound bar for years a Samsung 4.1 sound bar with wireless rear speakers in my old area down stairs then after I beat cancer I moved back upstairs where I then started planning my system layout for the longest I used the Samsung sound bar I mentioned above but that wasn’t enough for me so I did some researching and found a Yamaha 5.1 speaker bundle that I used for a bit then upgraded the receiver to a Sony 7.2/5.2.2 receiver threw in some Sony atmos speakers for my
Heights then upgraded the subwoofer to a 12 inch Klipsch R12-SW ported subwoofer and finally upgraded my main speakers to a klipsch bundle and I have to say I’m satisfied with it, movies sound amazing, gaming is also enjoyable as well as listening to music from time to time, but ima say this if you don’t have a lot of space to work with then a sound bar may not be a bad option, if you’re not looking for wall shaking bass and just want to improve your audio quality for movies and games and aren’t worried about where the sound is coming from I’d recommend a 2.1 sound bar there’s a lot out there with an affordable price!
I'm happy you beat cancer!!!
I think a sound bar for a bedroom is plenty and much better. I have one not this one. But I do have a Klipsch 5.1 system that I put together tower's up front and some byways in rear and the center channel with a smaller 10 inch ported sub running on a Sony receiver
I have a 1000w 5.1 surround system on my PC with two speakers in parallel on my left and right front channels 😁
Not at all for the price. Im going to remember this when my girlfriend decides to get a set of speakers for her desk!
Have your girlfriend check out Edifier powered speakers. Great prices and sound really good.
@@jaymzstrader1945 Ya, those Edifier MR3 or MR4 speakers definitely would be better.
I really enjoyed you opened them up to show us the guys like always. Those magnets were pretty beefy.
It's probably not doing rated on the sub channel as it's using 40Hz signal for the Dyno, but the model you have (as shown earlier) has a drop off at 45Hz - so won't be capable to put the full power into a 40Hz signal as needed by the Dyno! :)
Big D said in a previous comment that he also tried it at 100hz and got the same output
@@chrishernandez2490 Ah, I must have missed that, thanks!
2:07 a 12 inch subwoofer!! awesome!
It doesn't matter how much you pay for a tv, the built-in sound on all modern tv's is total garbage. Companies have this unhealthy fascination with making screens as thin as possible. They can only make them so thin until there's literally nothing to them. So it leaves nothing as far as sound goes and they have to resort to tricks to make the sound bounce off the wall.
Surprisingly many of the Samsung and others higher end models sound just as good as a cheap sound bar. They have subs in Samsung oleds!!!! I wouldn't believe it had I not heard it myself. Sounded as good as the Sonos beam beneath it that wasn't working...
LG has some models with B&W sound bars built in too. Sooo not all. But yeah most all.
@@glitches911 I was looking at some tv's a couple of days ago that were 115" 4K units that said they had subwoofers in them. But it was also a $20K tv so I'm not surprised. I wouldn't mind having something that big but it's way out of my price range. You sure wouldn't need a theater screen and a projector to make a in-house movie theater with something that big.
i have my little pheanoo sub with small sound bar and its doing great. some of those amazon finds can actually be nice. i mean this one is perfect for what i need for.
It might have a rolloff at 40hz to protect that woofer, you should do the sub channel test at 60 or 70hz and should get more power.
I have some old 5 ¼ subs by JVC that will get down!
Its ironic that as the image quality and screen size both got better on tvs , the sound got worse. My first Panasonic 42* plasma actually had a woofer chamber built in which I didnt use because I already had a full size surround system. Nowadays the sound choices are limited to diffrent levels of soundbars unless you want to spend upwards of $1k for full size speakers and a reciever.
I actually checked out this brand at CEDIA this year. This is an Ultimea sound bar, sounds like this brand is the same. I'm currently running some of their bookshelves.
Demoed this sound bar and a larger model with Atmos. Not bad for the price. Definitely above tv quality pending on the TV.
We have a small den where we watch a 55" flatscreen. Couldn't justify HT there, so we went the soundbar & pseudo subwoofer route through hdmi arc for under $300, consisting of a Yamaha SR-B20A sound bar and a Polk PSW-10. Does the job nicely in its limitations, and can double as a bluetooth sound source if necessary, but AAC format in that case. I don't think I'd go cheaper. Unfortunately, prices are skyrocketing, and a decent pairing seems to be approaching $500..If needing to do something similar again in the future, I'd have to assess the best choices at that time.
PS) If a speaker that's 2x3" is going to produce any bass, it needs a reasonable linear x-max travel to achieve that, hence a depth in the third dimension..😉
The sound signal from the TV can vary so widely, you know it's bad when you add a soundbar, and it sounds worse than the TV speakers when the soundbar is plugged into the TV, but sounds incredible when plugged into the cable box using a splitter and 2 HDMI cables (one to the TV, one to the Soundbar)
Doing a good job never knew you did this as a "full time" job
I have the DS6403. Which doesn't have arc but has Sub out. I have it hooked up to my Cerwin Vega CLS-15S.
My guess is the 40Hz signal the dyno tests with is filtered out on the amp, subsonic filter, or LPF set above it.
I didn't show in the vid, but I also tried the sub channel at 100Hz and got the same output power as shown in the video
Most normal TV speakers suck and are only good for shows that are primarily talking. I had sound bars in the past that didn't sound good and had no adjustability, but I recently got the bug again and wound up getting a good deal on an open box Samsung Dolby ATMOS sound bar with wireless sub from Best Buy. It's not audiophile grade, but it sounds great for movies and music, and paying $270 for a $600 setup made it all the better.
Big D, if you do a Top 10 Products of 2024 video later, this would be a great choice, IMO. 9provided that Big D-flation doesn't drive the price up). I've been looking at used equipment for my mother's TVs (she's 72 and doesn't even want the low-end, just better sound). This seems like a PERFECT option for her or for people living in dorms or thin-walled apartments. "Do it bump doe?" HELL NO!! : P
Very cool 😎! Just saiyin!!!
I'm an audio need. I have all frequencies. I need to hear bass treble and midrange. I'm have always been this way, lol. Any sound system I hook up there has to be all frequencies, or you're missing out on good sound in my book Big D.
Upgraded to a 75" earlier this year and couldn't use my Panasonic surround as it only had RCA inputs. Figured I'd update to a more modern surround, but even spending $300 on one, they have very mixed reviews.
Had $50 in Amazon gift cards from giving blood, so I went ahead and snatched one of these up for under $30. Hopefully it does fairly well. I know it can't be worse than the speakers in the TV, but I know it won't be anywhere near as good as my old 500W Panasonic. That thing could shake shit in the house surprisingly.
Systems like this use a lot of DSP manipulation to control the output level to avoid distortion, and to tailor the frequency response. I expect the the subwoofer channel has a high pass filter above your 40 Hz test tone, to prevent buzzing and rattling from the sub. Try again with a 80 or 100 Hz tone and I expect you’ll get more output, although you’ll probably still run into a volume limiter and bass compressor.
Budget soundbars sound pretty bad but they work GREAT as an Amp with features for a better sub and set of bookshelf speakers you own. Just take it apart and run the positive and negative wires to a nice set of bookshelf speakers and maybe the sub if it's THAT bad but then you're in it for more money. Typically just making those crappy soundbar speakers sound good via powering bookshelves with them is the most effective mod for them unless you just have everything lying around. I have a Philips Fidelio soundbar and dual sub setup that I LOVE and it actually sounds great. Otherwise on a budget you're gonna get a better more natural sound from a powered set of edifier or something. Soundbar are way overpriced nowadays for what you actually get. There's not much budget room on them for quality I've only ever seen a handful I liked and they're $600-1000+ and far and few inbetween.
I have a decent set on livingroom (jamo d590, atmos upper and a denon amp.) but my bedroom needed some more. Samsung soundbar did the trick. Even without sub its nice and rich sound
You can keep em separated.
Hey HEY yeah!
Just a guess why the "sub" channel didn't make advertised power: the manufacture data sheet lists the frequency response of the entire unit at 50Hz-20kHz and when testing at 40Hz maybe there was some sort of limiter in the amp, just a guess though
I tried at 100Hz and got the same output. Sorry I forgot to include this in the video
@@wal ah, alright, that solves that mystery, was just an idea why stuff like that might happen👍
@@shinon_lus it's a good thought and could have been the reason for sure. I'm kinda shocked of the low output on the sub channel as I'd expect it to be at least as much as the main channels
@@wal that's kinda to be expected for a ballanced sound from the system... but looks like they had some other black magic in there somewhere
Logitech has some of the best stand alone units. Check them out. I'm still rocking the z-5500 in my bedroom!
I realized how much sound you can get out of almost zero watts after I got a BHD watt meter. Electronics work funny, lol. I mean, modern Nintendos only use like 7-12 watts to play crazy videogames with audio, graphics and the processor running it all.
Pump some DJ Magic Mike through that thing!
I use Presonus 3.5 monitor speakers. Sounds excellent for about hundred bucks. Totally fills the room.
that's an excellent setup I'm sure. I have an old set of bookshelves and a small amp used for our bedroom TV and it works ok as well. I was looking for something simple for people who recently bought a big screen TV and don't want to fiddle around with a lot of wires and such
@ yep they are powered. Or go with the 5 inchers . Excellent sound as these normally are studio monitors
Would be interesting to see how that little woofer performs if you use a speaker level to rca adapter and one of those mini amps
Hard to beat Bose, Costco run sales every now and then. I’d rather have a used Bose soundbar than this.
Grab one of the mini 2.1 amps you have and try that.
Please hook the subchannel up to the quad box, for science.
🤣👍
Their definition of handmade subwoofer is very different than my definition
Other than the magnets and decent surrounds the soundbar speakers don't look much different than the speakers in a flat panel tv.
My sound bar sucks however my tv speakers are adequate and yes,I like a audiophile quality sound system
Forgot about that Bully 3k video, good stuff!
Nice review
I totally agree the TV speakers suck. I was forced to remove the surround sound....im not happy. Maybe this is an option?
How do the sound ways go?
You know 😝
Some foam would help those cabinets.
price probably went up after your review 😅
Another great video!!
Not quite a Super Saiyin, better keep looking for those Dragon Balls, lol. When you don't have decent sound though, just a little cheap boost goes a LONG way.
Next time just use a multimeter on the speakers
And see what ohm those are .
Than you know how to setup your tester .
Speakers in rest are the ohm it is
The mids were 6 ohm and the sub was 4 ohms
I guess it doesn't bump doe.
Please test more ´Hifi` parts. But the thing with things like that is why not get a used Amp and Speaker, and get much better audio for your money.
I didn't mention in the video but my main reason for picking this setup up was to have a small system for use when we go on vacation. I hate using TV's built-in speakers and this setup packs up into a very small box and provides the decently upgraded sound for those TV's in the VRBO's and such
when connected together .. " 600.10' ?? mm SPEAKING NUMBERS .. INtO FRACtIONS... tAKES LOtS OF FAItH ..
So basically these are computer speakers
I wish Allen would have included one of his keys.
I don't think they could afford Allen at this price, I'm just Saiyin
could it have been a 1ohm sub?
it's 4 ohm sub, see the stamp on the magnet when I take it out of the enclosure
5.25" subwoofer !??!
Is it really a subwoofer driver or just a repackaging from other speaker ???
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Definitely has to be an affiliate link. Theres no way ANY audio guy could recommend one of these with a straight face. I could think of 50 soundbars that I would rather have. Might as well be pushing a Colby soundbar. Come on man, we expect better of you than this. For an extra 25 bucks you can get a Samsung with a powered wireless sub, that doesn’t look like cheap Chinese garbage. Please, please, please nobody buy this garbage.
It doesn't matter what I say or do I'll get an occasional comment like this. Someone who has never tried the product as I have and immediately makes an assumption. C'mon man, you can do better...
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This screap , its killed good sound , plsdtik ehhhhhh , D class ? Ehhhhhhhh , sorry not to my im old shool stereo fan normal class AB or good hi fi speakers , bot this plastik bunm bun m end nothing , ,.