The armour shown dates mostly to the late 1st century BC Han dynasty (ie the Western Han dynasty), with a few liberties taken here and there. Be sure to check out a more serious discussion of the Liqian here ua-cam.com/video/gEy4ORAM5H4/v-deo.html (part 1) and here ua-cam.com/video/TZhsq8IwLtE/v-deo.html (part 2)
A really nice presentation, and thanks for the links ! I was already aware of this story, and of course I really want it to be true too. The Parthians sound quite noble in their treatment of prisoners, in contrast to the Roman's usual way of doing things.
I have to wonder if some of the specific details that really imply them to be Romans, specifically the part about javelins and using swords and shields, was intentionally “mistranslated” by the guy who proposed the theory; the majority of it sound like it would apply to any number of different steppe tribes who frequently worked as mercenaries for the Chinese, but some of the details feel oddly specific, and like they don’t quite fit the more vague description of the rest of the text; also, if they’re in the north, it feels weird that there would be Romans there, fighting with Turkic raiders, rather than in the south working for the Kushans or some Indian king.
Imagine them if a lost legion also from the Palmyran Empire escaped from Aurelian and Three warring states of Rome, reaching China only to find out its Three warring states period too.
Yes. Although there are several details that are quite specific, and that gives at least a little credence to the theory. Other than that, who can say?
These could be Greco-Bactrian in origin not as roman legionnaires but as Thurophoroi or Thorakitai. The passing down of bronze helmets as heirlooms can be a greek thing.
Be cool if it were ture and there was a band of Roman Legionaries that fought with the Chinese. Americans have been to the Moon, so why not Romans in China?
I get the sense that these are Roman troops who got a Chinese makeover, because the depictions of these warriors looks like a mixture of early Roman troops and Chinese troops, like I can almost pinpoint when this rumor takes place by how The Eagle Troops are shown here. I'll have to look into this further in the mornin, it's 1:53 AM where I'm at and I need to get some sleep. But anyways, I'm glad you're still uploadin foojer, I started to think you've abandoned UA-cam years ago, but it's nice ta see ya back. =)
most likely persians or another steppe people utilising a greek inspired method of fighting, dna testing showes no roman connection but it does show a persian one
The theory holds merits especially from the accounts of Han eyewitnesses Romans are excellent builders, proud of their Roman dignity and of course very shrewd in making deals be it for trade or alliances the army unit style also hints to a Roman Century and Centurions the leading officers throwing javelins then drawing a thrusting sword is how the legionnaires were trained to fight though it is odd that the so called eagle troops never mentioned the eternal city revered by all Romans
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The armour shown dates mostly to the late 1st century BC Han dynasty (ie the Western Han dynasty), with a few liberties taken here and there. Be sure to check out a more serious discussion of the Liqian here ua-cam.com/video/gEy4ORAM5H4/v-deo.html (part 1) and here ua-cam.com/video/TZhsq8IwLtE/v-deo.html (part 2)
A really nice presentation, and thanks for the links ! I was already aware of this story, and of course I really want it to be true too. The Parthians sound quite noble in their treatment of prisoners, in contrast to the Roman's usual way of doing things.
I have to wonder if some of the specific details that really imply them to be Romans, specifically the part about javelins and using swords and shields, was intentionally “mistranslated” by the guy who proposed the theory; the majority of it sound like it would apply to any number of different steppe tribes who frequently worked as mercenaries for the Chinese, but some of the details feel oddly specific, and like they don’t quite fit the more vague description of the rest of the text; also, if they’re in the north, it feels weird that there would be Romans there, fighting with Turkic raiders, rather than in the south working for the Kushans or some Indian king.
Imagine them if a lost legion also from the Palmyran Empire escaped from Aurelian and Three warring states of Rome, reaching China only to find out its Three warring states period too.
I’m getting some ideas for a Rome Total War mod
i love the conceptual nature of drawings like this. very cool. good to see you post again.
So it's not a confirmed fact, but it's a cool speculative 'what if' history
Yes. Although there are several details that are quite specific, and that gives at least a little credence to the theory. Other than that, who can say?
These could be Greco-Bactrian in origin not as roman legionnaires but as Thurophoroi or Thorakitai. The passing down of bronze helmets as heirlooms can be a greek thing.
Nice! Welcome back!
This is the kind of speculative historical fiction I live for
Glad you're still making videos. Keep up the good work!
Be cool if it were ture and there was a band of Roman Legionaries that fought with the Chinese.
Americans have been to the Moon, so why not Romans in China?
I think this is what the Jackie Chan Dragon Blade movie was about. A Roman legion that fought side by side with Han soldiers
Great film with John Cusack and Adrien Brody chewing the scenery. The legion armor would give some people a headache but it's still fun.
Is it possible you do the evoloution of a medieval knight from the early franco cav to the late 15th century
Your channel is amazing
It's not fiction, my dad was a centurion in the lost legion.
Never read the replies.
Informative, clever, and very nicely done...Great video!👍👍
Just noticed the SPQR on one of the soldiers’ shields, almost thought it was Chinese until I looked closer
Beside being extremely entertaining and informative, these videos are also great tutorials for drawing.
I get the sense that these are Roman troops who got a Chinese makeover, because the depictions of these warriors looks like a mixture of early Roman troops and Chinese troops, like I can almost pinpoint when this rumor takes place by how The Eagle Troops are shown here.
I'll have to look into this further in the mornin, it's 1:53 AM where I'm at and I need to get some sleep. But anyways, I'm glad you're still uploadin foojer, I started to think you've abandoned UA-cam years ago, but it's nice ta see ya back. =)
most likely persians or another steppe people utilising a greek inspired method of fighting, dna testing showes no roman connection but it does show a persian one
Where you are my friend we have missed you ❤
Work has been quite busy:( thank you for the encouragement tho!
Nice.
Nice story
The theory holds merits especially from the accounts of Han eyewitnesses Romans are excellent builders, proud of their Roman dignity and of course very shrewd in making deals be it for trade or alliances the army unit style also hints to a Roman Century and Centurions the leading officers throwing javelins then drawing a thrusting sword is how the legionnaires were trained to fight though it is odd that the so called eagle troops never mentioned the eternal city revered by all Romans
I though is was Roman troops send to china tho.
Crazy enough to be true.
If only!
Nice
Thx m8. Long time no see!