Kalvin Phillips made a BAD MOVE! - Craig Burley on the shift from Man City to West Ham | ESPN FC

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  • The ESPN FC panel of Craig Burley, Mario Melchiot, Jan Aage Fjortoft and Shaka Hislop react to Kalvin Phillips' saying his move from Manchester City to West Ham has "not gone as as he would've hoped."
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  • @sini_sv
    @sini_sv 4 місяці тому +12

    The thumbnail is wrong. Craig never said the move from City to West Ham was a bad move, he said the move from Leeds to City was a bad move.

    • @agentriot
      @agentriot 4 місяці тому +1

      Unironically, thats exactly what they tried to do, clickbait, ESPN knew darn well what they were doing, its just how media works

    • @jimjones3287
      @jimjones3287 4 місяці тому

      Nah, he's making Premier League money. The move was just fine.

  • @Otto-1943
    @Otto-1943 4 місяці тому +73

    if he wasn’t English, nobody would talk about him😒😏

    • @FeliX-TobiYahs-C
      @FeliX-TobiYahs-C 4 місяці тому +2

      💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

    • @kabelomaragelo2745
      @kabelomaragelo2745 4 місяці тому +6

      Facts . He’s a bang average player.

    • @JabbarTV1
      @JabbarTV1 4 місяці тому

      he is a leeds player man, that is his level @@kabelomaragelo2745

    • @seabird1328
      @seabird1328 4 місяці тому

      Haha remember when people called him the Yorkshire Pirlo.

    • @stevemann3375
      @stevemann3375 4 місяці тому

      Yorkshire pudding.@@seabird1328

  • @udayarajakrishnan1858
    @udayarajakrishnan1858 4 місяці тому +25

    Kalvin Philips has only played 69 games in the premier league....he is yet to prove if he is worth it

    • @hardy_har
      @hardy_har 4 місяці тому

      Lol nice edit: C'MON IT'S 69

    • @gibbo822
      @gibbo822 4 місяці тому +1

      Probably less in the championship he's had some lengthy injuries aswell as sitting on the bench earning more to sit and watch football than all our family trees will earn for generations

    • @audialiastt2601
      @audialiastt2601 4 місяці тому +1

      Great shout from Graham Souness. I didn't know that at the time.

  • @ymo6096
    @ymo6096 4 місяці тому +33

    Kalvin doesn't have what it takes to play for City. Pep taught he could mold him to fit in buy he did not fit. Not Pep's fault. He should sort himself out with West Ham.

    • @loudmouthdiaries5188
      @loudmouthdiaries5188 4 місяці тому +5

      Pep never fancied him
      Never wanted him.
      I think it's an home grown buy

    • @siddiqholm
      @siddiqholm 4 місяці тому +2

      Then why did Pep go in for him then?… or he didn’t?

    • @rodwellchigome7567
      @rodwellchigome7567 4 місяці тому +1

      Only got him for the home grown quota. Grealish probably similar mould too.

    • @user-uc6bl2yh5k
      @user-uc6bl2yh5k 4 місяці тому +2

      Pep destroyed whatever little talent he had. He paid £50 million for him and never wanted him? I thought Pep was a genius and the club scouts and directors always got their targets spot on?

    • @user-uc6bl2yh5k
      @user-uc6bl2yh5k 4 місяці тому +4

      @@rodwellchigome7567 £150 million to aid their homegrown quota?

  • @siddiqholm
    @siddiqholm 4 місяці тому +20

    Palmer saw he could be in a similar situation and smartly decided to join Chelsea 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @BeNards33
      @BeNards33 4 місяці тому +2

      Kudus didn’t want to join the Chelsea dumpster fire 🤔

    • @paulandrew4820
      @paulandrew4820 4 місяці тому

      yawn

  • @soumasouma7980
    @soumasouma7980 4 місяці тому +11

    I don't know what's wrong with these ppl.. was Pep supposed to bench RODRI and John stones and put Philips out there ?? 🤔😒

    • @derickjr8061
      @derickjr8061 4 місяці тому +1

      Then why buy him in the first place

    • @BobbyMarley718
      @BobbyMarley718 4 місяці тому

      He never liked the kid, he only bought him to stop him from going to a rival team.
      Nd Stones is not a midfielder yes He should be benched for Kalvin

    • @soumasouma7980
      @soumasouma7980 4 місяці тому +2

      @derickjr8061 it's not of your business 😒 Every club buy the players they want but some of them are just too lazy and not professional.. it happened to everyone, look at Madrid how they bought prime Hazard from Chelsea, and then he got benched until he retired

    • @soumasouma7980
      @soumasouma7980 4 місяці тому +2

      @BobbyMarley718 stones benched for Kalvin Phillips?? 🤦🤣🤣 did you see Stones' stats last season or you were just blind 🤔

    • @CBear2682
      @CBear2682 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@derickjr8061for cover but Kalvin was not up to the task.

  • @drumnbassdan
    @drumnbassdan 4 місяці тому +18

    Not as bad a move as from Leeds to City.

    • @platnumj
      @platnumj 4 місяці тому +6

      Leeds we’re relegated weren’t they?? So he got a pay increase, an England call up and continues to play in the PL. along with trophies and a treble. Wouldn’t call his move to City a bad one, more so one that didn’t work out as hoped.

    • @drumnbassdan
      @drumnbassdan 4 місяці тому +1

      @@platnumj how many times has he played for city since he moved? He was with England before he moved and Leeds maybe stay up if he stayed. Biggest mistake ever.

    • @user-uc6bl2yh5k
      @user-uc6bl2yh5k 4 місяці тому +1

      Facts. City destroyed him

    • @insanebe1
      @insanebe1 4 місяці тому

      thats actually what Craig said, the you tube title is a bad title and misleading

    • @platnumj
      @platnumj 4 місяці тому

      @@drumnbassdan Doesn’t matter how often he played and also he was signed AFTER Leeds were relegated. So no, they wouldn’t have stayed up. Calling it the biggest mistake ever is an over exaggeration. He made a big move and it didn’t work out. Plenty of other clubs will still take him now, so it’s not like his football career is over.

  • @dwayneterence7456
    @dwayneterence7456 4 місяці тому +6

    Everyone's an expert AFTER the horse has boltted 😂

    • @OfficialFA
      @OfficialFA 4 місяці тому +1

      Seems like everybody in the comments section think their experts, when it's just a worthless opinion they give...

  • @user-oy9iv1tp1m
    @user-oy9iv1tp1m 4 місяці тому +7

    How can you come to that conclusion. He have played 2 games combined. He needs more game time. He will come good.

    • @markbrunt914
      @markbrunt914 4 місяці тому +3

      to add to it westham is bad now , they are not doing well at the moment he can not perform any magics at westham now

  • @chrisclark2747
    @chrisclark2747 4 місяці тому

    Dan shouldn't have cut that short. That was a great segment on Phillips.

  • @ant4613
    @ant4613 4 місяці тому +1

    Why do you think Pep never played him at City? lol. I'm rooting for Kalvin but I genuinely can't remember the last time he's had a good performance.

  • @ikennaduru170
    @ikennaduru170 4 місяці тому +10

    Sacrificed his growth, for trophies and wages!

    • @matthewm3869
      @matthewm3869 4 місяці тому +4

      can you blame him? He spent his entire career in the championship and had one good season under Bielsa in the premier league

    • @FeliX-TobiYahs-C
      @FeliX-TobiYahs-C 4 місяці тому +1

      He's a benchwarmer, no one genuinely thinks he contributed to that treble😂

    • @ifldiscovery8500
      @ifldiscovery8500 4 місяці тому

      ​@@FeliX-TobiYahs-Cas long as he has those medals.

  • @safari23
    @safari23 4 місяці тому +2

    The lad is just gonna be alright 👍

  • @goodvibes-seeen1354
    @goodvibes-seeen1354 4 місяці тому +2

    You gotta give credit to Marcelo Bielsa. Getting the best out of an average player like Kalvin Phillips

    • @insanebe1
      @insanebe1 4 місяці тому

      most people would say it was Gareth Southgate who got the best out of him, I mean he went to an international tournament and people thought he was one of the best players there

  • @doml8959
    @doml8959 4 місяці тому +1

    Mainoo is ahead of him for England yet Gareth will still pick Phillips... especially now since he's actually getting Prem starts under his belt. There's a reason why Pep barely played him, and Pep is rarely wrong.

    • @michaels7874
      @michaels7874 4 місяці тому

      Well he was wrong in buying Phillips. No matter what he achieves, he is one I would never respect because of what he did to Yaya Toure.

  • @rufuswasherebeforeya
    @rufuswasherebeforeya 4 місяці тому +1

    Craig's ear about to explode at @1:50...

  • @vershaunjerome
    @vershaunjerome 4 місяці тому +1

    Mario looks older in londan

  • @dannymurphy1779
    @dannymurphy1779 4 місяці тому +1

    What Philips needs is a transfer not a loan, if Leeds go up then why not there??? Or Southampton, Leicester. Go somewhere where you are valued and wanted.

    • @insanebe1
      @insanebe1 4 місяці тому

      why not? money. There is no way any of those clubs can pay those wages, Leeds highest paid player is Bamford on 70k a week Kalvin gets 150k a week.
      Similar numbers for Southampton and Leicester.
      So loan deals until his contract runs out.......or his form picks up

  • @genretypebeats4612
    @genretypebeats4612 4 місяці тому +1

    He moves too slowly. I don't mean pace. clearly, he has speed. But the reading of the game is too slow. so by the time he accelerates, it's too late and he is making rash tackles to make up for it.
    He needs to understand he is not Rodri. Once he gets that through his head, he will play better. No one can do what Rodiri does.

  • @NomadJoe0323
    @NomadJoe0323 4 місяці тому +1

    To be fair, that was not a foul. Terrible call by the ref.

  • @user-nv9ig6po1d
    @user-nv9ig6po1d 4 місяці тому +1

    What does pack the game in mean?

  • @user-uc6bl2yh5k
    @user-uc6bl2yh5k 4 місяці тому +1

    Stop making excuses for Phillips. The move isn't a bad one if you're looking for game time but I always felt like he was overrated by the media before and after his move to City. This isn't his best form but his best isn't far from what we're seeing either.

  • @tobaepebinuade5830
    @tobaepebinuade5830 4 місяці тому +8

    I know he’s on West Ham United, but with Manchester City loaning him out there and barely even playing them, many of us should have concerns with what’s gonna happen to them if Rodri is injured rests or picks up another suspension.
    In my opinion, Manchester City are over reliant on Rodri and it makes sense because what he offers to the team combined with his ability to score big goals he’s simply irreplaceable and no player on that team can replicate what he does. With him in the starting lineup they’ve gone a year without losing a game and a big reason as to why Manchester City have dropped points as the absence of Rodri has been felt and they cannot win games without him and there’s always a lack of a solution when he’s out. Kalvin Phillips struggled for game time and he was loaned out to West Ham in January meaning that the guy has no proper backup and you wonder why they didn’t sign a defensive midfielder in January because the worst case scenario for them is him getting injured and as we’ve seen with them this season they’re not the same team without him and to have to move one of the defenders to play in his role, filling his void when he’s out is so difficult. Pep Guardiola obviously didn’t fancy him and it’s unlikely that he ever resurrects his career at Manchester City since he’s also had a slow start at West Ham too.

    • @janysmahoney1271
      @janysmahoney1271 4 місяці тому +1

      U saying about Rodri; Pep seems t have a long European history of playing same players over and over again till burnout sets in.
      Arsenal (even Pool), play same side forever cos squad small but City have pretty decent benchwarmers who don't get a shout cos he's over reliant on 2-3 players

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 4 місяці тому

      It doesn't matter if Rodri got injured. Philips woukd never play. When Rodri got suspended he didn't play. Pep woukd play Lewis as a 6 before he plays Philips because he's lazy.

  • @FlyFoxPro
    @FlyFoxPro 3 місяці тому

    Still waiting for him to do the basics right.

  • @Lightbody33
    @Lightbody33 4 місяці тому

    Well said Craig !!!
    Was a bad move to City and Im over Pep saying sorry I think he tried his best They shouldn't have bought him in the first place .. and he should have had playing time in his contract ... ie so many games to be played I really Like KP and I wish he had stayed at Leeds

    • @soumasouma7980
      @soumasouma7980 4 місяці тому +1

      Was Pep supposed to bench Rodri and put KP there ?? 🤔

  • @teenageapocalypseusa5368
    @teenageapocalypseusa5368 4 місяці тому

    Doesn’t Alvarez already do this?

  • @drewskerritt
    @drewskerritt 4 місяці тому

    Watch Southgate call Phillips up for England.

  • @420_Emissary
    @420_Emissary 4 місяці тому

    Yet he will be one of the first names on the plane to the Euro's along with Rashford, Henderson and Maguire...

  • @TotaledBoot
    @TotaledBoot 4 місяці тому +1

    4:17 💀💀

  • @ghg27689gf
    @ghg27689gf 4 місяці тому

    Kalvin Philips has just joined West Ham. He is a good player. He has to be given more time. He will probably find his form at West Ham

  • @topcat4643
    @topcat4643 4 місяці тому +2

    Kalvin Phillips was just an average championship player at Leeds ….never anything special and was certainly not England squad material….fact of the matter 😮😊

  • @alancawfield6549
    @alancawfield6549 4 місяці тому +1

    Leeds to Man City was the bad move he made.He should have moved to a club he was going to be a guaranteed starter for.

  • @buuda1591
    @buuda1591 4 місяці тому

    Honestly,ESPN need to change their pundits like ASAP, especially Jan,that guy is lame,they'd ask him a simple question and he answers by talking about something else just like he did for this topic (Kelvin Philipps) and he's talking about his dad being a ref. . Mxm

  • @kabelomaragelo2745
    @kabelomaragelo2745 4 місяці тому +5

    Kalvin is simply not good enough . He’s a championship player.

  • @charlesapana9935
    @charlesapana9935 4 місяці тому

    Absolutely is a disaster move, they really didn't need another midfielder

  • @lexi6693
    @lexi6693 4 місяці тому

    i honestly feel bad for Kalvin

  • @tvgcmma9215
    @tvgcmma9215 4 місяці тому

    Burley is right about uk tv - shocking that usa football channels have better pundits than in uk

    • @maudalmusicalmachines3541
      @maudalmusicalmachines3541 4 місяці тому

      Shocking! 🤣

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 4 місяці тому

      UK TV is inclined to find former star players from big clubs that are big personalities. While they are often fun to watch, they are also often poor analysts.
      Look at Roy Keane. The man talks entertainingly about emotions and personalities, but his ability to analyze the tactics a game is not even average. Perhaps the man still knows football, but he cannot be bothered to explain it well in front of a microphone.
      A lot of former PL players as pundits are more interested in rooting for their club or against their rivals, than thinking hard and trying to explain real football insights to a general audience.
      I am not sure that America is better overall, but they are not annoying in same particular way all day long.

  • @Resonance971
    @Resonance971 4 місяці тому

    funny how they excuse him but won't give foreign players a pass

  • @BobbyMarley718
    @BobbyMarley718 4 місяці тому

    I dont feel for him. He should’ve never went to City. They only wanted him to stop him from going to other teams specifically Arsenal & Liverpool. He should’ve gone to a team that actually needed midfield help. City did not, they tried to do the same with Declan rice.

  • @muhammadsanneh2510
    @muhammadsanneh2510 4 місяці тому +12

    Pep Really Destroyed kalvin Phillips Career

    • @Otto-1943
      @Otto-1943 4 місяці тому

      how he destroyed his career ?did Pep tell him to get overweight?

    • @BC-mj7gj
      @BC-mj7gj 4 місяці тому +8

      No he didn’t

    • @polygonrong095
      @polygonrong095 4 місяці тому +8

      he destroyed his own. was awful every time he played.

    • @ILoveManCity.
      @ILoveManCity. 4 місяці тому +1

      How so? Moving from City its a fresh start and so were the opportunities Pep gave him, which were short but so are for everyone who joins City at the beginning of signing.

    • @marcdennler8642
      @marcdennler8642 4 місяці тому +4

      He is just an average player not good enough for City.

  • @mewe1771
    @mewe1771 4 місяці тому

    I posted 'no idea why City are looking to buy this guy' as soon as we were linked with him. Average 1st touch, to slow and does not not the ball out of his feet quickly enough. BTW, he should be nowhere near the England squad. Players like Longstaff and possibly Mainoo should be considered.

  • @janysmahoney1271
    @janysmahoney1271 4 місяці тому +2

    The only 2 English players Peps seems t hav time 4 r Foden (85%) an Walker (90%); maybe Grealish at 35% an Stones at 22% but any other Englishman just accept that ur no more than a blot on Peps playing landscape.
    Kai will NEVER get another game f City i don't think, especially if Peps 'calling it a day' real soon.

  • @josephajibowo-wp2rw
    @josephajibowo-wp2rw 4 місяці тому

    I'm a Chelsea fan and not even English.
    But I only need to watch Kobbie Mainoo once to know I'd be an idiot to even bring Kalvin Phillips into a conversation to start in midfield. That Mainoo kid can be the proper central midfielder England has never had in my opinion. Players, like Kross, Modric, Xabi Alonso.
    That kid and Rice will make the best pairing.

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 4 місяці тому

      @giwrgospetrou1159 Good balance.
      I was pleasantly surprised how good Rice, Bellingham, Henderson looked in 2022. I think Maddison would be an upgrade.

  • @briankin1827
    @briankin1827 4 місяці тому +1

    If you are not good enough,you are not good enough.Look at Maguire ,same story,but the english pundits overhypes them and they start believing that they are better than what their capabilities are.simple as that,overhyped.

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 4 місяці тому

      To be fair, Maguire looks good in certain systems, and Southgate has gotten many excellent performances out of him. But there are obvious weaknesses in Harry's game and as a result he is too inflexible to perform is other systems. Maguire is a genuinely good player who was never going to be great. You are right that overhyping English players is a part of the big picture.

  • @win33adam
    @win33adam 4 місяці тому

    Regardless of form or game time, one thing you can guarantee is he'll be on Gareth's plane to Germany

  • @jasonlaminx
    @jasonlaminx 4 місяці тому

    Still start for England

    • @insanebe1
      @insanebe1 4 місяці тому

      come on he lost his place to Bellingham/Rice combo a while ago, if in the squad he will be on the bench at best

  • @audialiastt2601
    @audialiastt2601 4 місяці тому +1

    At this moment in time Kalvin Philips is so unfit. DM is the ONLY deluded mug in da Prem, that would take him on lone.

  • @AndyOtam
    @AndyOtam 4 місяці тому

    He’s got to go back to Leeds now..

    • @insanebe1
      @insanebe1 4 місяці тому

      i doubt that not on those wages lol

  • @usaydmanning7356
    @usaydmanning7356 4 місяці тому

    Shouldve come to Spurs

  • @michealwatt8652
    @michealwatt8652 4 місяці тому +2

    He made a bad move from he went to city

  • @vaibhavpatil6488
    @vaibhavpatil6488 4 місяці тому

    The guy was out for almost a whole season due to injury...

  • @marianchicago4002
    @marianchicago4002 4 місяці тому

    I think west ham is about his level, he's not a top 4 starter

  • @rageeth
    @rageeth 4 місяці тому

    Should have never left Leeds for that Baldie

  • @Tony.L9793
    @Tony.L9793 4 місяці тому

    liverpool dodged another bullet🤣🤣

  • @josephajibowo-wp2rw
    @josephajibowo-wp2rw 4 місяці тому

    One of the most average players I've ever seen given so much hype.

  • @chrisburton4128
    @chrisburton4128 4 місяці тому

    Southgate will still pick him

  • @frkzd
    @frkzd 4 місяці тому

    what nonsense! West Ham are a top top club, coached by Nate Shelley - THE WONDER KID!

    • @insanebe1
      @insanebe1 4 місяці тому

      if you watch the video Craig actually says his move to Man city was a bad one, the you tube title is misleading

  • @sambog2635
    @sambog2635 4 місяці тому

    west ham made bad move taking philps!!! why people acting like philips is some footballing god. hes had couple good seasons in prem for leeds ffs 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @insanebe1
      @insanebe1 4 місяці тому

      because alot of clubs liked what they saw at the euros

  • @user-nl4cn1ew4w
    @user-nl4cn1ew4w 4 місяці тому

    Poor guy's moved from city to go play every game in his own six yard box.

  • @tburton2877
    @tburton2877 4 місяці тому

    Couldn’t play at city and West Ham suited him he’s average

  • @westhamaremassive8099
    @westhamaremassive8099 4 місяці тому

    No we made a bad move. Not he did

  • @awaydayvsr6493
    @awaydayvsr6493 4 місяці тому +9

    another player ruined by pep, but nobodys is talking

    • @karmakile
      @karmakile 4 місяці тому +2

      who else did pep ruin?

    • @TT-fq7pl
      @TT-fq7pl 4 місяці тому +1

      We're living in a time of ridiculous manager hero-worship. It's like a cult.

    • @TT-fq7pl
      @TT-fq7pl 4 місяці тому +6

      @@karmakile Jack Grealish. He used to be fun to watch, when he'd dribble past people. Now he just recycles and passes backwards, like a well-trained spaniel (I mean Spaniard).

    • @superwhale6665
      @superwhale6665 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@TT-fq7plAlvarez is underperforming for his talent also that left back Sergio Gomez

    • @TT-fq7pl
      @TT-fq7pl 4 місяці тому +1

      @@superwhale6665 Well, to be fair, not all players will play well, and that's not necessarily the manager's fault. But Guardiola sure does take a lot of credit for his players' good performances, so he ought to take some flak for the weaker performances too. Or maybe we should all just pay less attention to the managers in general.

  • @blackneedle1
    @blackneedle1 4 місяці тому

    which one comes first? he was not fit enough or he didn't get enough game time? he was injured and then went to world cup and then to new york, came back overweight. u look at his tummy now, he is like a pregnant woman.

  • @allanward4945
    @allanward4945 4 місяці тому +1

    He's the biggest fraud

  • @derickjr8061
    @derickjr8061 4 місяці тому

    City end his career

  • @marklomas1307
    @marklomas1307 4 місяці тому

    Can someone tell me who Craig burley is? For such a miserable critical opinionated pundit I have no idea who he is and why he thinks his opinion matters

  • @jimwilson-kl2xs
    @jimwilson-kl2xs 4 місяці тому

    Phillips is overrated, a sideways passer, not fit, now being found out

  • @fabionhenry4448
    @fabionhenry4448 4 місяці тому +2

    A lot of these players are chickens, players who lie to themselves, they are playing their best football at a small club and when the bigger clubs come they choose the one that they think they can stay on the bench and get winners medals, they don't choose a club that they can help, they choose a club that can help them. Lazy, simply down right lazy and I think Philips is one of them that's why he chose City

  • @maudalmusicalmachines3541
    @maudalmusicalmachines3541 4 місяці тому

    Kalvin Phillips just isn't all that good. Another overpriced English player.

  • @kevinmatthew1050
    @kevinmatthew1050 4 місяці тому

    Another insanely overrated English player

  • @ramiroavila9374
    @ramiroavila9374 4 місяці тому +1

    No West ham made a bad move. This guy sucks.

    • @insanebe1
      @insanebe1 4 місяці тому

      it's a loan deal for half a season....but it definitely isn't going well lol