@deathfire096 Doesn’t matter to me either. They simply are not a group of individuals who are worthy of respect. Much like your mom for receiving your dad’s seed.
Former Delta operators looking like college professors, former Devgru operators looking like skateboarders, former Rangers looking they're homeless, and former Marine Raiders looking like skateboarding college professors who happen to live on the street.
I wonder how these guys feels about donald trump stealing, hoarding and refusing to return classified National Security documents that detail various operations that would put these guys lives at risk if those documents fell into the wrong hands? They were stored in his bathroom, banquet hall, bankers boxes with his underwear and golf shirts. At mar-a-lardo there were two Chinese foreign agents arrested on the premises with tarde craft espionage tools.
LMAO, bro its literally how we spot each other after retirement. I can be at the range in my DTEs , some shorts, Oakleys and dreads and Id get the head nod from some random guy who has "The look".
This guy is a cry baby “they didn’t like me” “They didn’t treat me right”. It’s all about my feelings and doesn’t give details of the issues or the respond from the command. Everybody from the officers and brass treated him bad. What a dry baby and this is a Ranger trained for war but get his feelings easily hurt. What a whimper.
If you are going to attack on social media another elite unit, you better have names and specifics and not be so shallow so if you are lying, they can defend themselves. This Ranger likes 1 SEAL Squadron over another. So it’s not a SEAL thing. Since We don’t know the other half of what happened this is just gossip.
@@deathfire096 Why are you so spun up about this? Anyone who participated in the GWOT knows the SEAL's discredited themselves more than any other element.
Each squadron having different culture and mentality during GWOT created a gap between them. So basically, what we see is that Damneck has 4 different separately sophisticated SOF units within it
@@asnpirantjedi5015 Operationally you cant really tell a difference. But when it comes to which squadron has done what "popular" or what squad has the most "legendary" guys its Red and Gold squadron.
Yep. The Pirates have allegedly always been difficult. There's a reason why Blue Squadron are known as 'The BAD Boys in Blue'. It was Blue Squadron that sent then Lieutenant McRaven packing after he tried to run his troop with discipline.
@@coruupzrn7841 Not back in the 1980s when he was still just an Lt and in charge of a single troop. Devgru was commanded by Dick Marcinko back then. He's the one who fired McRaven after McRaven had numerous clashes with him and the Blue Squadron troop Chief that he worked with.
SEALs, Rangers and Special forces have a weird rivalry. Especially rangers and seals. SEALs and Rangers are super aggressive, proud, and catty so they tend to fight alot but get along in small numbers.
SEALs and Rangers are direct action focused forces. Special Forces can do direct action,But that's not their focus.Unconventional warfare and foreign internal defense are more up their alley. Since nearly all of DEVGRU are SEALs. And since 70 percent of Delta members joined the Unit from a Rangers to Special Forces to Delta career track,or were recruited directly from the 75th Ranger Regiment. The two communities have an intense rivalry.
I was an 18C years ago. There's some rivalry between any different SOF units. But it's very minimal between SF and Ranger Batt. The conceit is a common issue in all SOF units.
That's really a bummer about the SEALs. When i was active duty they were they epitome of quiet professionals. I mean you know they were crazy and not to F with them but the ones on my ship were pretty humble and chill. Sounds like they've been called out enough that maybe now t hey are dialing it back a notch.
They've had serious problems in the SEAL community dating back to the 1970s at the latest. The gay hazing stuff is unacceptable, to include getting new guys so drunk they pass out, then paying male pr_st_tutes to violate them all night. The Navy has a totally different culture where it's better to ask for forgiveness than beg for permission. It opens the door for a culture of insubordination that can really get out of hand with guys that have very limited supervision, and are trusted to do their jobs by exercising self discipline. In a solid leadership culture, it works great. In a toxic or weak leadership environment, it's disastrous.
Since at least the ‘90s there’s been a running joke that graduates of BUDS automatically get a book deal. So not entirely sure if quiet is the appropriate term.
@@John-mf1sz late 90s. I have exactly the opposite experience, everyone i knew spoke very highly of them. The guys i talked to on the boat were cool as hell. I mean there's kinda of a let's bash the SEALs industry right now. This shit gets clicks let's be honest.
You would think that is on USASOC JSOC and the Ranger Regiment to have it's dude put up with such BS. If Delta doesn't treat Rangers like that.Why would DEVGRU think it can abuse Army assets like that?
@@TheLAGopherI mean I’m not saying it’s alright because it isn’t, but there’s always going to be some dudes that get up to that level and because they got up to that level and worked hard to get there, some think that they’re better than everyone else unless you’re apart of that unit
@@TheLAGopher abuse? For carrying equipment? Rangers get treated worse during training but this is abuse? 😂. This guy is a crybaby. I did worse jobs in the Fleet. Go work in the galley or boiler room in the Navy and comeback to me.
@@Peppermint988valid question, the unit isn’t looking for guys who can do all that stuff because anybody can teach a monkey to shoot. The shrinks will usually know who will be selected before anyone else.
Yeah, former reg army intel support to JSOC (including in J-Bad) and I've been rolling my eyes at the SEAL worship for fifteen years considering some of the treatment I've personally experienced and heard about from the teams. That includes one or two DevGru guys and a fuckton of basic SEALs. Never had a single bad experience with CAG, Rangers were fine but more hit-and-miss. In general, it felt like a lot of SEALs had drank the Kool aid about how special they were while other teams were more craftsmen just plying their specific trade, by the time of ascending to DevGru a lot of those dillusioned to being God's gift to the world were filtered out. Didn't meet many Raiders and the ones I met were great guys but assholes to a T, except it absolutely didn't come from them thinking they were special, just probably being in the Corps long enough. Lastly Rangers are incredibly squared away and super clichy, but not from some sense of being superior, just a frat that sticks to their own, generally only disrespects seeming disrespect in kind. Ultimately they were about getting shit done, just don't get in their way and cover your lane. Call me a liar, say it never happened, I don't care, but with all the shit coming out recently I'm glad. Our complex, world-class machine only works because of all the people exercising their expertise with professionalism.
Sounds like they put more effort in to being 'badass' than being professional. The more dangerous the situation, the more professional and less badass u need to be.
Had the pleasure of spending time with a team of guys in 2005 who were a mixture of former tier one guys from several branches. What an absolutely professional group. Great Americans. Down to earth and friendly.
EVERYTHING starts and ends with Culture. And Commissioned Officers set that tone, period. Ranger and Unit Officers GIVE Ranger and Unit NCO's an incredible amount of Liberty to lead, train, and develop Teams at the Unit, and Platoons in Regiment to perform at the Highest Level Possible. As soon as those NCO's are no longer meeting that Standard, Officers have a responsibility to do the paperwork to get rid of them without question. By Contrast DEVGRU Officers aren't even considered "Operators". And in the event a DEVGRU NCO is no longer meeting the standard, the SEAL "Good Ole Boy Network" protects them. Regiment and the Unit can be cut throat, but you learn as a Man to detach from your ego, and say "if I am truly not meeting the standard, I need to go". Because you staying can pollute the whole organization. LTC Danny McKnight did not pass the Ranger Orientation Program (ROP) before taking command at 3rd Ranger Battalion. However, he was protected, they deployed to Mog and the rest is history.
Damn Hookstead, clickbait shit. Dude literally gasses Red team but bashed blue team who are infamous for being steroid freaks. Mike did not "slam" Seal 6 just one notorious squadron. Love Mike Edwards, true hero
That's crazy. Us as Americans are still pulling this same tool segregated bathroom crap against each other... I thiught we were past 1940. Crazy feeling when you have to drink from the past.
Funny, a video of guys talking about other guys, then a comment section full of people talking about these guys, thinking they know these guys from watching videos on the internet
Never had a good experience with SEALs… huge egos but get lost and need help continually. One SEAL I met was very good dude and was honest and said “BUDS is hard for navy guys, most Infantry guys would probably beeeze through it”.
Basic army training?😂. Stay away from the crack pipe. Most people that join the army is because they can’t swim and low ASVAB scores. You proved that. How many SEAL deployments you went with the teams?
If you think about it if you were to put a highspeed army infantry guy they would pass tbh. I’m not saying they would pass with flying colors but they would most likely probably pass due to how physical the Army infantry is already on a day to day basis. Like for example regular army infantry usually ruck, run, hit the range and ect every week. Sailors don’t really do that as often compared to what the average infantry grunt is doing on a daily basis. The sailors that are going to seal selection usually train up months prior to selection. The only thing they would most likely struggle with is probably water but other than that they’re gonna pass
@@calvinredmon2290 Stop. It's Army basic training. You don't even need to learn how to float let alone swim to pass Army basic. Since it's the biggest branch of the whole military, they make it easy to pass. NAVY Boot CAMP is 2 months to learn the basic about NAVAL life, culture and ranks (nothing hard) . A person that has a SEAL contract has to go to Navy Boot camp like everybody. By the way, if you can't float you are out of the Navy! if you can't swim 500 yards under 12 minutes in Boot Camp, you are not going to BUDS. After Boot Camp, SEALS go to 8-week Naval Special Warfare Prep School (Pre-BUD/S), all they do is exercise and swim to prepare for BUDS. Then 3-week BUD/S Orientation which they keep physically training, then 24-week Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL Training (BUD/S) which it has 3 phases and land navigation of rucking is part of it. Only 20% makes it. After BUDS you are not even a SEAL. You go to Alaska for 3 weeks of winter land warfare. Then 3-week Army airborne School then the real and hardest training phase of 26-week SEAL Qualification Training (SQT) then if you make it, you get your Trident and go to a SEAL squadron as the new guy. All SEALS must be Combat Divers. Only 1 of 6 in the Army SF are Combat Divers. It's the hardest qualification of the entire Special Forces in the Military and you want to compare that to Army Basic Training? LOL
I wonder how these guys feels about donald trump stealing, hoarding and refusing to return classified National Security documents that detail various operations that would put these guys lives at risk if those documents fell into the wrong hands? They were stored in his bathroom, banquet hall, bankers boxes with his underwear and golf shirts. At mar-a-lardo there were two Chinese foreign agents arrested on the premises with tarde craft espionage tools.
Look at the Joe Price situation. Navy Seal Commander, who "committed suicide," poor guy was killed by someone wearing a trident. Where is the Shawn Ryan Show episode about this. Took a unit guy to give Joes friend a platform to speak. 2 Seals months back, just drowned in the red sea because the ocean was rough... Go look at the data that day, which will show it was calm just like the 5 days before and 4 days after. Seals have no loyalty they are all out for themselves, and if you know too much, you now have an exsperation date. Shawn Ryan (SEAN PALMISANO) is too worried about becoming politically connected to shake that tree and give Joe's family some peace. These seals are some scummy dudes
It's so odd how you people just disregard proven units with some of the most well trained operators in the world simply because they arent the team you rout for LOL
To say that all of them have no loyalty is pretty ridiculous. There are good ones and bad ones the same as every profession. Anytime you make a blanket statement about an entire group of people says something about you. Have you met them all? Worked with them all? 👎
There have been a couple interviews where I've heard guys talk about different squadrons within ST6 had different cultures. Like some would be rule followers, Captain America types. Then you had the pirates or bandits, etc., etc. It was allowed because some missions required different mindsets. If command had a mission they felt would require some off script rule breaking but couldn't actually say it was allowed, they KNEW which squadron to assign the mission to and feel confident these guys would "get it done." And vice versa, some missions required by the book scalpel like precision and discipline. There were teams and squadrons for that. Even amongst Delta, I've heard the same thing even though overall, I think Delta is more Captain America than ST6 in general but there are different cultures within their team structure as well.
That's what happens when responsibility for enforcement of standards is taken away from commisioned officers.Which seems to be a thing in Tier 1 units. Other SOF and conventional forces leave it to the senior enlisted to enforce day to day standards.But ultimate responsibility is still on the unit officer in charge who can fire his SNCOIC if the unit is slipping. It sometimes appears as if Tier 1 units just want their officers to stick to planning,and leave all of the enforcement and the responsibility to the enlisted leadership.
@@TheLAGopher please this is a former enlisted talking. He doesn’t represents the army, the rangers, Devgru or the Navy. Tier 1 is not run like regular military.
@@deathfire096 is that so? So I wasn’t tasked with integrating a seal platoon in 06 with my platoon and right seat riding them on route redwings? I didn’t have to take them out and show them the operational area? I spent 20 years in the Army kid and 4 of those were in Ranger Regiment. Stfu and don’t look like an idiot.
I did my 2006 pre-deployment workup with Team 3. Reckless, spotty infantry skills, caught a team trying to probe our camp at Hunter-Liggett. They think arrogance somehow smooths out battlefield friction...
3:00 This blows my mind. How can a member of the Navy SEALs (a DEVGRU guy no less) be lacking in PT. I was a plain jane infantryman and PT was a religion for us. The ODA guys we worked with on my first deployment were awesome to share a "gym" with.
Because DEVGRU works with the regular Navy. I have never seen a DEVGRU out of shape since they have to pass constantly pt tests to stay active for deployments. Now there are E-8 and E-9 that all they do is administration tasks in the community at their end of their military career that don’t deploy and those might be out of shape but that’s all branches.
He was not a “ranger” he was RRC. The tier 1 unit of the Rangers. I served, not in, special ops but I was around Seals, they all had an attitude and an ego that was out of this world. I remember in San Diego. 3 seals got beat up by another navy guy who was wasn’t a seal, he was if I remember correctly a cook. Who was a boxer before joining. They were salty asf. And the 3 seals started it and after getting rolled by one guy, they didn’t get punished but the other guy who just defended himself did. Every seal I met was the definition of small dog energy.
He was in Ranger batt before going to RRC, RRC are still a “Ranger” element, they just work directly for JSOC and go through OTC and a selection process.
Lol, I don't get it. I'm sure there's rangers and sf guys who’s done bad, but you don't hear about it. They’re humans, there’s gonna be 1 or 2 bad apples.
Never heard the Brits fight about, compare and pit the SBS against SAS negatively like you Americans do Delta and ST6... Its messy and chaotic... Everywhere Delta is this, ST6 is that... Respect your superheroes and cover there weaknesses gadamnit!
Only comes from 1 side. I have never heard SEALS trash other branches or communities. It happens a lot on this channel and the interviewer throws gas on it. I guess he needs the clicks.
GOLD SQD ST6 with Eddie and Dom, Andy and all them no one came close to GOLD SQD i mean they were the only SEAL TEAM 6 SQD that was the most God fearing men had the Crusader outlook on the war GOLD SQD was the cream of the crop IMO
@@sc12100 i was with 2/6 Golf CO. USMC Infantry Sqd Ldr 2010-2018 2 combat deployments to Helmand Province Afghanistan 1 TOUR to Japan 9 weeks training with the ROK MARINES in South Korea And 3 weeks in the Phillipiness when the typhoon hit I never worked with any SEAL TEAM 6 guys i did work with SEAL TEAM 2, Royal Marines and Rangers in Afghanistan Ive just heard and seen Gold Sqd in ST6 and ive heard nothing but praise and very fantastic things about them SEAL TEAM 2 would talk about them alot Funny thing alot of SEAL TEAM 2 guys end up in Gold Sqd
Rangers literally rescue Seals for a living. Thats why the seals are sour. Rangers are 100% business, fykyk, from basic training (even before that if thats your luck). No other unit compares in that regard.
yeah, that's why the SEALs were picked to kill OBL and rescue Captain Philips because Rangers are the "best" and giving SEALs a ride back to the base after their missions is not consider "rescue". Lay off the crack.
Many team guys have been primadonnas since forever. Its literally part of the culture within the community. That gym story made me laugh as it reminded me of all the bs in AFRICOM. I dont know who is worse? Marines or SEALs when it comes to hogging gyms
A former Ranger looking like Willie Nelson bashing Devgru from his house? 😂. Why he didn’t tell them that in their faces. You think Devgru cares what a Ranger thinks about them. “They didn’t treat me right”. Maybe they didn’t like you and felt you didn’t belong working with a tier 1 unit and didn’t want to carry your A$$. 😊
@@killbaal4149 I know right? Like tell us you’re an assclown armchair commando without telling us you’re and assclown armchair commando cause he clearly just displayed he embodies that
@@snakesvt and you know this how? You spoke with his former commands and review his evals and record? People will believe anything they see on social media.
I’m almost positive that DJ Shipley was in Blue squad around this time. And considering he’s a notorious jackass according to a lot of people that have dealt with him, including his own father, it totally makes sense.
Red. DJ is a snake in the grass jacked up on steroids and pills. He cheated on his smoking wife had a kid, and when he got caught so she wouldn't leave him, he had cole call and told her he's going to kill himself at the entrance of Damneck. He is Tier 1 at manipulation. The dude had civilians paying $500 for an optics mount that couldn't hold up a 6 pack of coke.
@@Iyengar7 Nah I was incorrect, I shouldn’t have said positive he was in Blue; just that I was positive he was indeed in DEVGRU in this time period, and it doesn’t seem that people have the best things to say about him so I wouldn’t have been surprised if he was somehow on the periphery of some conflicts. between units such as what was stated here. I’ve never met the guy, so I can’t personally speak on it myself. But you’re correct, he was indeed in Red. So that’s my bad.
I don’t buy the out of shape statement. Flabby will not cut it with the commander in charge. His ass would roll if the Blue Team were not in proper shape for a mission.
Then you never worked around seals. I was on the 11th meu back in 2010 and personally spoke to a seal who was injured in Yemen, dude was pudgy and looked out of shape but I’m not saying he was, and I have seen countless SF dudes , trained with them and some are just as basic in their fitness or sometimes less than your average boot grunt. On the flip side I have met some studs out of recon and raiders and they are legit
I find it funny how at the end of the day, delta and devgru are the only ones that can judge each other, every other unit is not even close to the same level, simple as that.
David Hookstead should change the name of the channel to "Bash the SEALS". Anyone in the military that hates the SEALS, give me a call. I need the clicks.
I got sort of kidnapped on a Sunday and taken to the ST6 compound as I was to teach a 2000s technology to them. Actually they found me and asked me to come with them in an unmarked van and no ID from them but they knew my name. I ended up teaching a lady, a civilian how to do it. Later an operator asked does Bragg know this yet referring to Delta, and I said been there and they shown disappointment but I then I replied, the SAS beat both of you.
In all seriousness I wouldn’t doubt it. The Bragg guy I knew maintained that they were the best at CQB but that the SAS was the best in the field especially the jungle. The SAS had an early start and due to different mission requirements have different needs and interests as for training and R&D. Plus they were doing GWOT before we were due to the Provos running around all over Europe and South/Central America. They were also fund raising and doing other activities like recruiting in numerous cities in CONUS.
@@killbaal4149 The SAS is still tasked with missions that would be handled by the US using Army Special Forces. Delta and the JSOC community is more focused on hostage rescue and manhunting over long range patrolling and training foreign troops.
Conventional SEALs are tier 2. The teams he is referring to are ST6 which are all Tier 1 elements and operate within JSOC. Rangers historically operated as QRF for SEALs and CAG out of JSOC.
Rangers and seals are tier 2. This guy was in RRC which is a tier 1 ranger unit, he worked alongside Seal team 6 red squadron, gold squadron and blue squadron which are all tier 1. They were all working together in a task force or task unit under JSOC. That’s why the ground branch guys from CIA and Delta force guys were there as well.
Your channel disrespects team 6 alot, like you have a personal vendetta with them! Doesn't change the fact that they are better than RRC and Delta and its not even close
The truth hurts. If multiple people say the same thing and it's all jsoc professionals then its probably true. Especially when they say how good the other squads are. Lets see we've had seals murder a Green beret in Africa and multiple other issues. So they've had well published problems.
Make sure to like, subscribe, comment and watch the full interview here: ua-cam.com/video/sK0Guo-h3lc/v-deo.html
The more I learn about SEALs, especially DevGru, the less impressive they become.
@@soonerfrac4611I’m sure they care about your opinion. They are heartbroken that you won’t join them. 😂
@deathfire096
Doesn’t matter to me either. They simply are not a group of individuals who are worthy of respect. Much like your mom for receiving your dad’s seed.
@deathfire096
Simps 4 Seals President and CEO?
@@deathfire096. Delta can and will keep the seals in line when they get cocky Period the end ...
Former Delta operators looking like college professors, former Devgru operators looking like skateboarders, former Rangers looking they're homeless, and former Marine Raiders looking like skateboarding college professors who happen to live on the street.
@@strawdawgs78 forgot to add former Delta look fat and bald. 😂
hilarious lmfao
I wonder how these guys feels about donald trump stealing, hoarding and refusing to return classified National Security documents that detail various operations that would put these guys lives at risk if those documents fell into the wrong hands? They were stored in his bathroom, banquet hall, bankers boxes with his underwear and golf shirts. At mar-a-lardo there were two Chinese foreign agents arrested on the premises with tarde craft espionage tools.
LMAO, bro its literally how we spot each other after retirement. I can be at the range in my DTEs , some shorts, Oakleys and dreads and Id get the head nod from some random guy who has "The look".
@@deathfire096 the Seal Team 6 guys are also bald but they are all wearing a hats to hide it my man
The most damning thing about this story is that it matches word-for-word with other accounts by other guys from other units.
word for word hey ?? Mmmmm ?
"Word for word" may suggest coordination, or simple repetition. Nothing "damning" about it at all.
This guy is a cry baby “they didn’t like me” “They didn’t treat me right”. It’s all about my feelings and doesn’t give details of the issues or the respond from the command. Everybody from the officers and brass treated him bad. What a dry baby and this is a Ranger trained for war but get his feelings easily hurt. What a whimper.
If you are going to attack on social media another elite unit, you better have names and specifics and not be so shallow so if you are lying, they can defend themselves. This Ranger likes 1 SEAL Squadron over another. So it’s not a SEAL thing. Since We don’t know the other half of what happened this is just gossip.
@@deathfire096 Why are you so spun up about this? Anyone who participated in the GWOT knows the SEAL's discredited themselves more than any other element.
Each squadron having different culture and mentality during GWOT created a gap between them. So basically, what we see is that Damneck has 4 different separately sophisticated SOF units within it
Which is the best?
@@asnpirantjedi5015 Operationally you cant really tell a difference. But when it comes to which squadron has done what "popular" or what squad has the most "legendary" guys its Red and Gold squadron.
Nick Irving said almost the exact same thing on the Shawn Ryan show
Yep. The Pirates have allegedly always been difficult. There's a reason why Blue Squadron are known as 'The BAD Boys in Blue'. It was Blue Squadron that sent then Lieutenant McRaven packing after he tried to run his troop with discipline.
Wait I’m confused. So he tried to discipline them and they kicked him out? But he was a JSOC commander
@@coruupzrn7841
Not back in the 1980s when he was still just an Lt and in charge of a single troop. Devgru was commanded by Dick Marcinko back then. He's the one who fired McRaven after McRaven had numerous clashes with him and the Blue Squadron troop Chief that he worked with.
SEALs, Rangers and Special forces have a weird rivalry. Especially rangers and seals. SEALs and Rangers are super aggressive, proud, and catty so they tend to fight alot but get along in small numbers.
SEALs and Rangers are direct action focused forces. Special Forces can do direct action,But that's not their focus.Unconventional warfare and foreign internal defense are more up their alley. Since nearly all of DEVGRU are SEALs. And since 70 percent of Delta members joined the Unit from
a Rangers to Special Forces to Delta career track,or were recruited directly from the 75th Ranger Regiment. The two communities have an intense rivalry.
I was an 18C years ago. There's some rivalry between any different SOF units. But it's very minimal between SF and Ranger Batt. The conceit is a common issue in all SOF units.
Having rangers carry teams bags on ops
To me seems like its a rivalry between navy seal and delta force
No. its because Rangers have died several times bailing SEALs out from their fuck ups and unprofessionalism.
That's really a bummer about the SEALs. When i was active duty they were they epitome of quiet professionals. I mean you know they were crazy and not to F with them but the ones on my ship were pretty humble and chill. Sounds like they've been called out enough that maybe now t hey are dialing it back a notch.
They've had serious problems in the SEAL community dating back to the 1970s at the latest. The gay hazing stuff is unacceptable, to include getting new guys so drunk they pass out, then paying male pr_st_tutes to violate them all night.
The Navy has a totally different culture where it's better to ask for forgiveness than beg for permission.
It opens the door for a culture of insubordination that can really get out of hand with guys that have very limited supervision, and are trusted to do their jobs by exercising self discipline.
In a solid leadership culture, it works great. In a toxic or weak leadership environment, it's disastrous.
How long ago?
Alina everyone I know has mimicked the same sentiment about most SEALs they worked with, and it’s never pleasant or complimentary.
Since at least the ‘90s there’s been a running joke that graduates of BUDS automatically get a book deal. So not entirely sure if quiet is the appropriate term.
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@@John-mf1sz late 90s. I have exactly the opposite experience, everyone i knew spoke very highly of them. The guys i talked to on the boat were cool as hell. I mean there's kinda of a let's bash the SEALs industry right now. This shit gets clicks let's be honest.
Interesting, Mr Hookstead. My father was a Delta Operator and he had the exact same opinion about the SEALs. Seriously was NOT impressed.
No He wasn't
And my grand pappy was the biggest delta seal ranger sniper
Going off the odds alone and I’m not a betting man. No. No he wasn’t.
My daddy was a Viking and he invaded Iceland. He didn’t like the SEALS either.
Haha yea OK john doe y7u
He talking about Nicolas Irving on Sean Ryan😂devgru made the rangers carry their heavy equipment on target.
You would think that is on USASOC JSOC and the Ranger Regiment to have it's dude put up with such BS. If Delta doesn't treat Rangers
like that.Why would DEVGRU think it can abuse Army assets like that?
@@TheLAGopherI mean I’m not saying it’s alright because it isn’t, but there’s always going to be some dudes that get up to that level and because they got up to that level and worked hard to get there, some think that they’re better than everyone else unless you’re apart of that unit
@@TheLAGopher abuse? For carrying equipment? Rangers get treated worse during training but this is abuse? 😂. This guy is a crybaby. I did worse jobs in the Fleet. Go work in the galley or boiler room in the Navy and comeback to me.
Maybe because devgru were going to be up close and personal, meanwhile rangers just carry said load?
@@Peppermint988valid question, the unit isn’t looking for guys who can do all that stuff because anybody can teach a monkey to shoot. The shrinks will usually know who will be selected before anyone else.
Yeah, former reg army intel support to JSOC (including in J-Bad) and I've been rolling my eyes at the SEAL worship for fifteen years considering some of the treatment I've personally experienced and heard about from the teams. That includes one or two DevGru guys and a fuckton of basic SEALs. Never had a single bad experience with CAG, Rangers were fine but more hit-and-miss.
In general, it felt like a lot of SEALs had drank the Kool aid about how special they were while other teams were more craftsmen just plying their specific trade, by the time of ascending to DevGru a lot of those dillusioned to being God's gift to the world were filtered out.
Didn't meet many Raiders and the ones I met were great guys but assholes to a T, except it absolutely didn't come from them thinking they were special, just probably being in the Corps long enough.
Lastly Rangers are incredibly squared away and super clichy, but not from some sense of being superior, just a frat that sticks to their own, generally only disrespects seeming disrespect in kind. Ultimately they were about getting shit done, just don't get in their way and cover your lane.
Call me a liar, say it never happened, I don't care, but with all the shit coming out recently I'm glad. Our complex, world-class machine only works because of all the people exercising their expertise with professionalism.
Sounds like they put more effort in to being 'badass' than being professional. The more dangerous the situation, the more professional and less badass u need to be.
Same experience I had doing manned ISR with AFsoc. Cag, raiders and sf were awesome. 24sts was great. Bad experience with rangers and seals.
Had the pleasure of spending time with a team of guys in 2005 who were a mixture of former tier one guys from several branches. What an absolutely professional group. Great Americans. Down to earth and friendly.
🎖️🏆⭐🙏🏆
Thank you for sharing this
This guy is spitting truth. I’ve got some Blue Squ stories.
Would you mind sharing those stories with us?
@@mishavarsanyi5946 after he smokes more crack.
Former Marine here with experience working with SEALs. Definitely can confirm.
no you can't
EVERYTHING starts and ends with Culture. And Commissioned Officers set that tone, period. Ranger and Unit Officers GIVE Ranger and Unit NCO's an incredible amount of Liberty to lead, train, and develop Teams at the Unit, and Platoons in Regiment to perform at the Highest Level Possible. As soon as those NCO's are no longer meeting that Standard, Officers have a responsibility to do the paperwork to get rid of them without question. By Contrast DEVGRU Officers aren't even considered "Operators". And in the event a DEVGRU NCO is no longer meeting the standard, the SEAL "Good Ole Boy Network" protects them. Regiment and the Unit can be cut throat, but you learn as a Man to detach from your ego, and say "if I am truly not meeting the standard, I need to go". Because you staying can pollute the whole organization. LTC Danny McKnight did not pass the Ranger Orientation Program (ROP) before taking command at 3rd Ranger Battalion. However, he was protected, they deployed to Mog and the rest is history.
Damn Hookstead, clickbait shit. Dude literally gasses Red team but bashed blue team who are infamous for being steroid freaks. Mike did not "slam" Seal 6 just one notorious squadron. Love Mike Edwards, true hero
That's crazy. Us as Americans are still pulling this same tool segregated bathroom crap against each other... I thiught we were past 1940. Crazy feeling when you have to drink from the past.
Funny, a video of guys talking about other guys, then a comment section full of people talking about these guys, thinking they know these guys from watching videos on the internet
are u talking about Nick Irving's interview about having bad experiences with working with ST6?
No he’s talking about this RRC’s experiences with ST6
I think Nick Irvings' episode on the Shawn Ryan Show is what's being referenced.
I completely agree. Nothing impressive from "the teams".
@@sampsonlll1825 ah the reference to that interview
@@sampsonlll1825eh i believe much was referring to blue squadron. You can’t say every team in the SEALS is bad just because one is lacking
@coruupzrn7841
I meant what I stated; I haven't met a NSW guy that I've liked.
Never had a good experience with SEALs… huge egos but get lost and need help continually. One SEAL I met was very good dude and was honest and said “BUDS is hard for navy guys, most Infantry guys would probably beeeze through it”.
Basic army training?😂. Stay away from the crack pipe. Most people that join the army is because they can’t swim and low ASVAB scores. You proved that. How many SEAL deployments you went with the teams?
Lmaooo I doubt it
If you think about it if you were to put a highspeed army infantry guy they would pass tbh. I’m not saying they would pass with flying colors but they would most likely probably pass due to how physical the Army infantry is already on a day to day basis. Like for example regular army infantry usually ruck, run, hit the range and ect every week. Sailors don’t really do that as often compared to what the average infantry grunt is doing on a daily basis. The sailors that are going to seal selection usually train up months prior to selection. The only thing they would most likely struggle with is probably water but other than that they’re gonna pass
@@calvinredmon2290 Stop. It's Army basic training. You don't even need to learn how to float let alone swim to pass Army basic. Since it's the biggest branch of the whole military, they make it easy to pass. NAVY Boot CAMP is 2 months to learn the basic about NAVAL life, culture and ranks (nothing hard) . A person that has a SEAL contract has to go to Navy Boot camp like everybody. By the way, if you can't float you are out of the Navy! if you can't swim 500 yards under 12 minutes in Boot Camp, you are not going to BUDS. After Boot Camp, SEALS go to 8-week Naval Special Warfare Prep School (Pre-BUD/S), all they do is exercise and swim to prepare for BUDS. Then 3-week BUD/S Orientation which they keep physically training, then 24-week Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL Training (BUD/S) which it has 3 phases and land navigation of rucking is part of it. Only 20% makes it. After BUDS you are not even a SEAL. You go to Alaska for 3 weeks of winter land warfare. Then 3-week Army airborne School then the real and hardest training phase of 26-week SEAL Qualification Training (SQT) then if you make it, you get your Trident and go to a SEAL squadron as the new guy. All SEALS must be Combat Divers. Only 1 of 6 in the Army SF are Combat Divers. It's the hardest qualification of the entire Special Forces in the Military and you want to compare that to Army Basic Training? LOL
I wonder how these guys feels about donald trump stealing, hoarding and refusing to return classified National Security documents that detail various operations that would put these guys lives at risk if those documents fell into the wrong hands? They were stored in his bathroom, banquet hall, bankers boxes with his underwear and golf shirts. At mar-a-lardo there were two Chinese foreign agents arrested on the premises with tarde craft espionage tools.
Look at the Joe Price situation. Navy Seal Commander, who "committed suicide," poor guy was killed by someone wearing a trident. Where is the Shawn Ryan Show episode about this. Took a unit guy to give Joes friend a platform to speak. 2 Seals months back, just drowned in the red sea because the ocean was rough... Go look at the data that day, which will show it was calm just like the 5 days before and 4 days after. Seals have no loyalty they are all out for themselves, and if you know too much, you now have an exsperation date. Shawn Ryan (SEAN PALMISANO) is too worried about becoming politically connected to shake that tree and give Joe's family some peace. These seals are some scummy dudes
I’d definitely agree the quality of those podcasts dropped pretty hard a couple years ago
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It's so odd how you people just disregard proven units with some of the most well trained operators in the world simply because they arent the team you rout for LOL
To say that all of them have no loyalty is pretty ridiculous. There are good ones and bad ones the same as every profession. Anytime you make a blanket statement about an entire group of people says something about you. Have you met them all? Worked with them all? 👎
ODA pulled some shit like that in spinboldak. Circa 2007
Sounds like something GBRS would do
😂😂😂😂
Cole was a Blue Squadron guy
You can spot the inflated ego type instantly like it emanates from their pores 😂
Yeah. Agreed. As a group, seals are wayyy too Arrogant.
But, let's keep Our Branch fighting 'in [the Whole] House, In House'.
Blue vs Red, why so different. Isn’t there a standard for SEALs. Rangers and Marines have standards. ???? Any answers why.
Squadron’s maintained different cultures during the GWOT both in dev and CAG
Leadership most likely
There have been a couple interviews where I've heard guys talk about different squadrons within ST6 had different cultures. Like some would be rule followers, Captain America types. Then you had the pirates or bandits, etc., etc. It was allowed because some missions required different mindsets. If command had a mission they felt would require some off script rule breaking but couldn't actually say it was allowed, they KNEW which squadron to assign the mission to and feel confident these guys would "get it done." And vice versa, some missions required by the book scalpel like precision and discipline. There were teams and squadrons for that. Even amongst Delta, I've heard the same thing even though overall, I think Delta is more Captain America than ST6 in general but there are different cultures within their team structure as well.
That's what happens when responsibility for enforcement of standards is taken away from commisioned officers.Which seems to be a thing
in Tier 1 units. Other SOF and conventional forces leave it to the senior enlisted to enforce day to day standards.But ultimate responsibility is
still on the unit officer in charge who can fire his SNCOIC if the unit is slipping. It sometimes appears as if Tier 1 units just want their officers
to stick to planning,and leave all of the enforcement and the responsibility to the enlisted leadership.
@@TheLAGopher please this is a former enlisted talking. He doesn’t represents the army, the rangers, Devgru or the Navy. Tier 1 is not run like regular military.
My experience with team3(only seals I’ve dealt with) was not good, they were tactically unsound.
My experience with liars is they like to jump the bandwagon and make things up.
@@deathfire096 is that so? So I wasn’t tasked with integrating a seal platoon in 06 with my platoon and right seat riding them on route redwings? I didn’t have to take them out and show them the operational area? I spent 20 years in the Army kid and 4 of those were in Ranger Regiment. Stfu and don’t look like an idiot.
I did my 2006 pre-deployment workup with Team 3. Reckless, spotty infantry skills, caught a team trying to probe our camp at Hunter-Liggett. They think arrogance somehow smooths out battlefield friction...
@@no8865 arrogance is off the charts, while the achievement to become a SEAL is obviously great the operational record doesn’t reflect it.
@@no8865 Sure you did.
Rangers are way better than Blue Sqaudron
Ur done
Rangers better than TIer 1? 😂. 21 people on crack. 😅
@@deathfire096the guy with the long hair is a former tier one operator, RRC(Regimental Reconnaissance Company) Tier one Ranger. Mike Edwards
You are in rotc. I hope you join the military one day and realize that literally everyone hates seals.
their is no teir 1 ranger...stop that nonsense
3:00 This blows my mind. How can a member of the Navy SEALs (a DEVGRU guy no less) be lacking in PT. I was a plain jane infantryman and PT was a religion for us. The ODA guys we worked with on my first deployment were awesome to share a "gym" with.
Acquaintances, these things
Because DEVGRU works with the regular Navy. I have never seen a DEVGRU out of shape since they have to pass constantly pt tests to stay active for deployments. Now there are E-8 and E-9 that all they do is administration tasks in the community at their end of their military career that don’t deploy and those might be out of shape but that’s all branches.
Pt was religion but not everyone was a believer. Even worse in regular infantry land.
@@anthonyj5298 Sad but true for certain units.
Blue Squadron made the transition to Meal Team Six
Cole from GBRS was in Blue Squadron
I can imagine ST6 showing up in baseball caps and skater shoes.
3rd time I’ve heard bad things about blue. Damn.
Yeah like Blue Team cares what a few cats say on social media. They don’t punch down.
@@deathfire096 RRC is lateral.
This was before 2012. After 2012 the squadrons changed a lot and DEVGRU as a whole.
@@gannethackett9323 I can believe that. After Neptune they probably had to change.
@@thewintersoldier383probably? Sounds like guessing.
Blue squadron sounds like typical cops today. Out of shape, unprofessional, and full of themselves and yeah, that too
and you based this by 1 person on social media. lol
@deathfire096 actually I based it on 60 years of living lol So either you're 12 years old or one those punk style cops. lol
@@geraldwest3428 if you say so. 60 years dealing directly with SEALS without being in the teams.....riiiiight.
@@geraldwest3428 Which team were you on?
stop picking on, and pitting others against the SEAL teams. these guys are fine operators, and the dev guys are of the same cloth as delta.
1:59 A man who tips up on moonshine is a man you can trust .
Moonshine is the gift that keeps on giving, just when you think you’re as drunk as your gonna get, it gives you a little more 😂
I think that might just be water…
@@bradleyperry1735 that’s a possibility too. I think he grew up in Alabama and we love our mason jars in the south 😂
Hm well my daddy was a Devgru Delta Marsoc GRS guy and he said the same thing about other guys so
He was not a “ranger” he was RRC. The tier 1 unit of the Rangers. I served, not in, special ops but I was around Seals, they all had an attitude and an ego that was out of this world. I remember in San Diego. 3 seals got beat up by another navy guy who was wasn’t a seal, he was if I remember correctly a cook. Who was a boxer before joining. They were salty asf. And the 3 seals started it and after getting rolled by one guy, they didn’t get punished but the other guy who just defended himself did. Every seal I met was the definition of small dog energy.
He was in Ranger batt before going to RRC, RRC are still a “Ranger” element, they just work directly for JSOC and go through OTC and a selection process.
When I was stationed at Ft. Living Room I saw the exact same thing
Haha best comment on here
Stop talking smack about other American warriors...that's unprofessional!
Hookstead will find any Ranger, Marine or Delta to bad mouth the SEALS. Childish stuff.
He is. Was he rejected to the teams?
Literally no one likes the seals, and that’s a sentiment that existed long before GWOT.
@@LoneWolfRanging yeah, you speak for the entire military. Stay off the crack.
Lol, I don't get it. I'm sure there's rangers and sf guys who’s done bad, but you don't hear about it. They’re humans, there’s gonna be 1 or 2 bad apples.
@@rickhunter7443
You are right you don’t get it.
Hookstead is such a jock riding fanboy....
Blue Falcons
Title of video doesn’t really make sense considering SEALs are JSOC operators too.
“Solid” means cool😎
Americans mouthing off on podcasts again 🙄
That is where they prob. dumped the low end od the seals
Haahhh! Go ARMY!!!
Seal pipeline needs cleaned out - look at death of Army Special Forces Staff Sergeant Logan Melgar
Never heard the Brits fight about, compare and pit the SBS against SAS negatively like you Americans do Delta and ST6... Its messy and chaotic... Everywhere Delta is this, ST6 is that... Respect your superheroes and cover there weaknesses gadamnit!
Only comes from 1 side. I have never heard SEALS trash other branches or communities. It happens a lot on this channel and the interviewer throws gas on it. I guess he needs the clicks.
OGA avoids seals like the plague.
Sure. He wasn't aware of that. gotta call bullshit on that.
Seals are poster boys
GOLD SQD ST6 with Eddie and Dom, Andy and all them no one came close to GOLD SQD i mean they were the only SEAL TEAM 6 SQD that was the most God fearing men had the Crusader outlook on the war
GOLD SQD was the cream of the crop IMO
Did you work with them ?
What unit were you with ?
@@sc12100 i was with 2/6 Golf CO. USMC Infantry Sqd Ldr 2010-2018
2 combat deployments to Helmand Province Afghanistan
1 TOUR to Japan
9 weeks training with the ROK MARINES in South Korea
And 3 weeks in the Phillipiness when the typhoon hit
I never worked with any SEAL TEAM 6 guys i did work with SEAL TEAM 2, Royal Marines and Rangers in Afghanistan
Ive just heard and seen Gold Sqd in ST6 and ive heard nothing but praise and very fantastic things about them SEAL TEAM 2 would talk about them alot
Funny thing alot of SEAL TEAM 2 guys end up in Gold Sqd
Rangers literally rescue Seals for a living. Thats why the seals are sour.
Rangers are 100% business, fykyk, from basic training (even before that if thats your luck).
No other unit compares in that regard.
yeah, that's why the SEALs were picked to kill OBL and rescue Captain Philips because Rangers are the "best" and giving SEALs a ride back to the base after their missions is not consider "rescue". Lay off the crack.
Many team guys have been primadonnas since forever. Its literally part of the culture within the community. That gym story made me laugh as it reminded me of all the bs in AFRICOM. I dont know who is worse? Marines or SEALs when it comes to hogging gyms
A former Ranger looking like Willie Nelson bashing Devgru from his house? 😂. Why he didn’t tell them that in their faces. You think Devgru cares what a Ranger thinks about them. “They didn’t treat me right”. Maybe they didn’t like you and felt you didn’t belong working with a tier 1 unit and didn’t want to carry your A$$. 😊
You do realize he was RRC not a regular Ranger right
Save your breath man. Mr armchair operator over here ain’t even worth the argument bro
If you had listened to the podcast he did. That’s why they got the access code to the gym and use their shitter.
@@killbaal4149 I know right? Like tell us you’re an assclown armchair commando without telling us you’re and assclown armchair commando cause he clearly just displayed he embodies that
@@snakesvt and you know this how? You spoke with his former commands and review his evals and record? People will believe anything they see on social media.
Quite telling the number of people who showed up from the group Simp For SEALS.
I’m almost positive that DJ Shipley was in Blue squad around this time.
And considering he’s a notorious jackass according to a lot of people that have dealt with him, including his own father, it totally makes sense.
@@John-mf1sz He was in Red squadron
Red. DJ is a snake in the grass jacked up on steroids and pills. He cheated on his smoking wife had a kid, and when he got caught so she wouldn't leave him, he had cole call and told her he's going to kill himself at the entrance of Damneck. He is Tier 1 at manipulation. The dude had civilians paying $500 for an optics mount that couldn't hold up a 6 pack of coke.
You are absolutely wrong. He wasnt in that squadron lol.
What makes you think you’re almost positive??
If you hate him, thats fine 😂
@@Iyengar7 Nah I was incorrect, I shouldn’t have said positive he was in Blue; just that I was positive he was indeed in DEVGRU in this time period, and it doesn’t seem that people have the best things to say about him so I wouldn’t have been surprised if he was somehow on the periphery of some conflicts. between units such as what was stated here.
I’ve never met the guy, so I can’t personally speak on it myself.
But you’re correct, he was indeed in Red.
So that’s my bad.
Never met the guy myself but he seems like a stand up modest guy. I watch everything gbrs puts out. Rad dudes.
Thought they were both the same group
Do they fake seals deaths to put them in special teams?
I have a buddy from blue squadron. I’ll have to check in to this
Ask him if they know this dude. I will bet they don’t.
I doubt that, but if it’s true I have some questions.
@@gannethackett9323 ok cool
If his second name is Sellner, tell him to join this podcast and teach a lesson about honor to these folks
@@Iyengar7 it’s not.
Young Eric Gonzalez Barbara Thomas John
I don’t buy the out of shape statement. Flabby will not cut it with the commander in charge. His ass would roll if the Blue Team were not in proper shape for a mission.
Then you never worked around seals. I was on the 11th meu back in 2010 and personally spoke to a seal who was injured in Yemen, dude was pudgy and looked out of shape but I’m not saying he was, and I have seen countless SF dudes , trained with them and some are just as basic in their fitness or sometimes less than your average boot grunt. On the flip side I have met some studs out of recon and raiders and they are legit
Doesn’t matter what you “buy” or think.
He was there and you weren’t.
@@returnfreedomAnd, what were you doing training with SF operators? It’s not a common occurrence.
@@returnfreedomWorlds best triathletes don't have Hollywood bodies and neither do operational Team guys. Unless they are on peds.
@@philipdru9290 MEU and the Build up to it. SOTG.
Mike Edwards as to be from the South
This channel has become SEAL bashing. This guy swings so much from Delta’s nuts like Tarzan and cheetah. I knew jealousy is part of it but damn.
Exactly
He gets a boner and excitement goosebumps from demeaning ST6.. He lives and looks for such content day and night.. Depressing
I’ve been saying this for months exactly
These guys hate on devgru guys so much , that tells u a lot of, you never see seals bashing other operators
They bash each other all the time
Losers focus on winners, winners focus on winning.
RLTW 3rd batt
ST6 has no selection aside from popularity contests. And it shows.
Someone had enough of short hair lol
I find it funny how at the end of the day, delta and devgru are the only ones that can judge each other, every other unit is not even close to the same level, simple as that.
If you’re a POS human being, you’re a POS human being.
Doesn’t matter if you’re Team six or a paint scrapper.
What about RRC and 24th STS?
Dumb comment
@@Cocked-Lockedthe only tier 1 units are delta, devgru, RRC, ISA, and the 24th
David Hookstead should change the name of the channel to "Bash the SEALS". Anyone in the military that hates the SEALS, give me a call. I need the clicks.
Fuck seals
I got sort of kidnapped on a Sunday and taken to the ST6 compound as I was to teach a 2000s technology to them. Actually they found me and asked me to come with them in an unmarked van and no ID from them but they knew my name. I ended up teaching a lady, a civilian how to do it. Later an operator asked does Bragg know this yet referring to Delta, and I said been there and they shown disappointment but I then I replied, the SAS beat both of you.
This never happened.
im former 22 reg. ive so much to say BUT if nothing good to say then say nothing will be administered here.
In all seriousness I wouldn’t doubt it. The Bragg guy I knew maintained that they were the best at CQB but that the SAS was the best in the field especially the jungle. The SAS had an early start and due to different mission requirements have different needs and interests as for training and R&D. Plus they were doing GWOT before we were due to the Provos running around all over Europe and South/Central America. They were also fund raising and doing other activities like recruiting in numerous cities in CONUS.
Willing to bet your not ex 22@@RansomeDavis
@@killbaal4149
The SAS is still tasked with missions that would be handled by the US using Army Special Forces. Delta and the JSOC community is more focused on hostage rescue and manhunting over long range patrolling and training foreign troops.
More rangers whining about Team guys 😂
Its crazy to hear SEALs treating RANGERS like trash
Arent Rangers T1 units??? SEALs are T2, literally wtf???
Conventional SEALs are tier 2. The teams he is referring to are ST6 which are all Tier 1 elements and operate within JSOC. Rangers historically operated as QRF for SEALs and CAG out of JSOC.
From what I can see, Rangers and Seals are both T2. With the exception of Navy Seal DEVGRU who are T1.
@@skyserf CAG, DEVGRU, Ranger RRC are Tier 1. The other Seal and Ranger units are Tier 2. Tier refers to funding..
He is talking about JSOC, which is tier 1 aka delta. They are the specialized part of ranger battalion.
Rangers and seals are tier 2. This guy was in RRC which is a tier 1 ranger unit, he worked alongside Seal team 6 red squadron, gold squadron and blue squadron which are all tier 1. They were all working together in a task force or task unit under JSOC. That’s why the ground branch guys from CIA and Delta force guys were there as well.
Your channel disrespects team 6 alot, like you have a personal vendetta with them! Doesn't change the fact that they are better than RRC and Delta and its not even close
Why isnt it even close?
Delta is the best
Well the guest worked with both and that’s his personal experience, your comment means nothing as you are a keyboard warrior.
The truth hurts. If multiple people say the same thing and it's all jsoc professionals then its probably true. Especially when they say how good the other squads are. Lets see we've had seals murder a Green beret in Africa and multiple other issues. So they've had well published problems.
Gayest comment I've seen in a while
Laughing at all opinions in the comments section. The opinions of fat people covered in tattoos who smoke and like to ‘drink a beer’.
like 60% of all operators are covered in tattoos, smoke and drink beer so what's ur point