Xbox Series S: External Blu-ray Drives Work? (Add Disk Drive Series S)
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2020
- Will External Drives work on the Xbox Series S?
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This makes me so mad. I am totally fine with them selling a console without the drive, but intentially making the console incapable of recognizing a disc drive is just scam to make people shill out for the X if they still have discs.
If this actually worked, I would have decided to get the series s
Same 😂
Lul i just hope they release the version 1tb instead of disc drive
Same
Same
me too
i feel that Microsoft would be smart to make an external bluray for the s. it would definitely make them profit.
sony make bluray i think
They could but they are probably too concerned with piracy. Xbox One and Xbox Series X drives have hardcoded encrypted serial number that need to match serial number of console. If numbers are different then console will not start. There is no chance to swap bluray drives beetwen two identical consoles. It's all anti-piracy measures. If they would make external drive for Series S then they would need to get rid off all of that. Communication beetwen drive and console would use USB which potentially can be vulnerable for attacks and expoilts. Developing a new protection techology would probably cost them hunders milions of dolars plus all marketing, production and distribution costs of drive itself. It's hard to break even with deal like that. Of course there is still chance that in future someone will break drive protection of current Xbox. Then Microsoft will need to act to develop new protection so maybe then they will make external drive on the occasion.
No it wouldn’t. People would pay 99€ my and would play used games instead of exclusively buy them in their store. They don’t make any profit with selling the series s hardware. It’s all about buying stuff in their store. Look at hard ware prices. The series s it sold non profit basically
@@svenk5221 I'm much more likely to buy games at the store than, buy games online. At least, with a disc, I can pass it off to someone else, if I find out that I don't like the game. If you buy a game online, you're totally screwed if you find out the game sucks.
@@pwcorgi2000 that was his point, that's why Microsoft would never do this unfortunately.
I'm really surprised how slim that Blu-ray drive is. Pretty incredible I remember when they were so big and expensive
No
@@dommy114 ?
People said the same about dvd drives cuz dvd drives were once huge compared to later portable dvd drives
too bad ps5 Blu-ray drive not as slim as that Blu-ray drive was
It's a slow one
I think it's odd that Microsoft decided to only include the disc drive in the Series X. I know that they wanted a cheaper console than the PS5 but people may not want to spend an extra $200 in order to play their physical game collection.
But,with the series x you can play on 4k 120fps, and the rtx, just the blu ray is like 100$.
@@lordpandax2435 I want a Series X for the disc drive, not for the 4k.
I would totally buy the series s if it had an optical drive. I have a lot of physical games and use my Xbox one for dvd/Blu-ray feature. So I have to get the x sadly.
@@JohnStlouis after the xbox 360 hd dvd fail, Microsoft threw out the idea of External drives. Microsoft also wants everything digital rather than physical. (The money for digital is entitled theirs, rather than to the retailer, no trading games, or selling them to your friends) I'd happily pay for an external disc drive for xbox. I'd enjoy my xbox one staying in the stereo cabinate, and the disc drive sitting next to my TV.
@@lordpandax2435 Who cares, people like me just want to be able to play my already purchased physical library. Not everyone prefers online purchases that can disappear if you lose a password or even get banned.
Appreciate the time you took to test this, as I often try to find out about work arounds for hardware limitations before making purchase decisions.
Try the 360 HD-DVD drive.
Yeah
Up
It probably won't work because MS does not provide the software. Perhaps the original HD DVD drive software disc will enable it but once the user logs into Xbox Live it may overwrite it.
will not work to play X / S series game, because games are on Ultra 4K Blu-Ray (disk space is between 66-100GB compare to 4.7Gb on normal dvd and xbox 360 only took DVDs ..)
I have one of those and a series S..... thanks
Was just about to go to sleep too💀😂
Same mate
man there's nothing to be rude about atleast he has that curiosity to experiment
I personally would love it if Microsoft sold a separate external Blu-ray drive that can be hooked up to the digital only consoles
Same here. 4K isn't a big deal to me.
@@pwcorgi2000 They did something like that for the 360. External HD DVD drive.
@@quincylewis6839 I Remember it. At old times of HD DVD vs bluray war...
@@bemseller5515 yeah except it was hd dvd not blue ray.
I’ve been searching for this type of video for so long thank you
4:50 that's probably because you played it from cheap usb 2.0 stick, their maximum speed is like 5-10MB/s, you need something with decent read speed and usb 3.0 to play 4k videos.
This is correct. If you're trying to play videos from an external source, whether it's an external HDD, SSD, or Flash Drive, it has to be rated as a USB 3.0 or better to work with the PS5. It can play videos and music from those sources.
This UA-camr is clown
@@geraldeaves3340 then why does it work on the series x??? So y'all theory must be wrong.
@@sleasy01 This thread was about how to get it to work on the PS5... keep up. No one cares about the damn xbox
@@geraldeaves3340 dude. That's retarded. It's shows the ps5 yes but look at what the op said the standard is. Once again. I'll say it. Why is it able to play on the series x if what the op said was true??? I already know the answer to this. It has nothing to do with speeds. The ps5 can do it. The UA-camr just lacks the know how to get it done
Why is your tv so far up in the ceiling? That is entirely too high..
My neck will hurt looking that high.
@@noivvv r/woosh
@@noivvv something tells me yours is the same height, just sayin.
@@noivvv lmao....it’s so easy to get a rise out of you. You don’t even have a tv, you watch your neighbors from a sand house.
@@10jinroh why so toxic?
They need to update Both Xbox Series S and PS5 Digital to accept those external disc readers... :/
🙃then it will defeat the purpose of being all digital consoles
On consoles, their DVD drives are married to their motherboards, and that's still true for the series x and ps5. This is done for security purposes so you can't install other disk drives on the consoles to bypass security measures. I was hoping that the Xbox series consoles would do away with this form of DRM, but we are not there yet. The disk drive is responsible for handling the detection of valid or secure media, if this did work, you'd be able to install games from burned disks. I was hoping to install some of my old xbox and 360 games that are backwards compatibile, but since it doesn't appear to detect the disk drive, I don't have hope that we could get this to actually work (officially)
@@iamtheflu I know but at least we can hope >.>
@@AzureGhost117 it would seriously be cool. I tried my external dvd drive and had the same result as this video. I tried a couple of xbox and 360 games that were on the backwards compatibility list, but no dice. The dvd drive works and tries to read the disks, but my series S doesn't react or do anything. I tried the rear usb ports too.
@@timelymirror7826 Too bad it kills the backwards compatibility program Microsoft was pushing so hard last gen. That's why I went PC this time around. For 200$ more than the Series X I can play all the same games with better performance (in 1080p) and I'm backwards compatible with literally everything except the Sega Saturn and the OG Xbox (due to no good emulators). On top of all that I get a disc drive.
GG Microsoft, unironically glad they pushed me out of their [clarification for 80 individuals:] (console) ecosystem.
i found this at google: there is one person who talked about " can i put external bluray player to series s?" ( on microsoft support) and xbox ambassador says" do you want make a piracy?". and another one says "no. if you put bluray player on it. why you not buying series x with enhanced performance?". i think microsoft say kinda rude of their customers.
This was a good experiment.
I ve asked every reviewer of series S and none of them answered my question regarding to to this. You're awesome...
If you are asking about a disc drive why not just get a Series X?
@@siloPIRATE just curious
@@bpcgos fair enough. I’ve been curious about stuff just because. Like what happens if you put an Xbox game in a PS5. The answer is it says it can’t play it but doesn’t show the to play this disc message that is on all Xbox games. It literally causes the PS5 to give you an error
@@siloPIRATE yeah, it would be neat if xbox series s usb allowed to recognize external dvd drive and read xbox dvd disc, so we can put our original games there
For the PS5, To watch movies from the thumb drive, you have to go into storage, media gallery, USB. You'll be able to watch your movies from the usb right there. I've tested it and works. I have the disc drive version.
Neither company will allow the digital owners access to install and boot from an external source, at least not for a long while.
Always go physical media version bro.
Great video regardless that way people will be aware now thanks to you!
Damn this would’ve been fire if it was able to work.
"The PS5 usb drive can be accessed though the Media Gallery app."
You need to create two folders one for movies and one for music
@@Romeroland yes exactly
@@Romeroland really? On PS4 you don’t
@@Romeroland not if it’s already formatted for PS4 or PS5. If it’s formatted PS4, just unplug it and plug it into the ps5. Music, movies, and games you’ve purchased and downloaded from PS4 will automatically work when the external device is plugged into your ps5, at least that’s what Sony website says.
lol, literally nothing has changed since PS3 days.
The Series S can output 4K just fine and there are even some games doing so, such as 'Ori and the Will of the Wisp'. It's primarily a 2D game, so the Series S has plenty of power there. ('Cuphead' will likely get a 4K mode too, as it is also a surprisingly lightweight game on the GPU side.) For 3D, the much lower CU count in the GPU means trying to do stuff at 4K means a major trade-off on the complexity of the models. Imagine the original 'Starfox' at 720p with the same polygon count. It would be very sharp compared to the original but otherwise be terribly primitive looking compared to a native game on a machine intended to do good 3D at that resolution.
During the months before launch I theorized a lot about the potential of an optional external optical drive for the Series S. All it would take is porting over the USB device type from Windows to the Series X/S firmware. Though history suggests if Microsoft chose to offer it you'd have to use their official device and not just any off the shelf drive already out there, much as they've done with the SSD expansion and past hard drives. It doesn't look like they will, though. I think they decided it would just complicate things and confuse shoppers, who aren't buying that many video discs these days anyway. It also encourages the used of secondhand games, which they of course want to discourage.
Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are all paying close attention to how well the PS5 Digital Edition and Xbox Series S do in the overall market. The two models success level will tell those companies whether they have to continue supporting physical media in their next generation. They already know UHD video discs aren't a big selling advantage. They just need sufficient proof they can safely end secondhand game sales too.
@Sendit Sunday Indeed. Modern consoles are arguably useless without frequent, if not constant, broadband connectivity. Physical releases are rarely updated, out of the GOTY and GH/Platinum/Player's Choice releases (if a new production run of discs is involved), so getting a physical copy of a major title in its final form that can be installed without any downloading is difficult at best.
I'm expecting fewer and fewer major title in coming years to have physical releases as the consumer is weaned off any attachment to discs and cards.
Wrote a whole essay
the Series S could easily play all the 360 games in 4k.
This sounds like a comment from someone who bought a series s when they were available and now regrets it 😂
@@corradovanaken3553 sounds like you are someone who bought a more expensive system only to have series s fellas seeing the same resolution and frame rates. Perhaps your a lil but hurt 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😍
This guy came out of nowhere to my recommended
Same lol
If I have owned how I am supposed to put movies in there I have one s cause i want the disc in it
@@faclonx6275 Use a USB :)
Genuinely love the videos, just subbed keep it going bro 💪🏽🙌🏽
Nice n beautiful setup with good tutorials. Thanks man
is that a usb2 stick, those artifacts looked like classic bandwidth issues. as far as media playback goes Xbox is pretty awesome, not only does it have the built-in apps from ms but you can download VLC and Kodi to it as well, pretty cool
yeah, this guy really doesn't have a clue unfortunately
Thanks for the test. I guess I'll have to go with the Series X then.
Thank you so much for this video! I been wondering if you get to play a game disc using an external disc drive. I was really going to buy the series S too smh Thanks for the heads up
How dumb it would've been had this worked, the copy protection schemes even in the older One (S/X) consoles are way too advanced and start in the firmware of the drive itself.
So of course external disc drives will never work as they are untrusted, unless the copy protection inside the console is defeated.
Nearly. There's a daughter board on the disc drive itself that communicates a unique serial number to the main motherboard. These boards are married during manufacturing and so even a replacement drive won't work. It's more hardware locked than anything else.
thanks for the info i wqs really wondering if i should buy one and this helped, thanks!
Discs are going the way of the 8 track player. Microsoft and 3rd parties can even publish media using that propietary SSD port if they wanted. That would be a lot neater and almost cartridge like similar to the Switch.
Disc are very very relevant
@@kid5042 not anywhere near as much as they were in the early 2000s.
Seems odd that we need to pay double to be able to play games we already own in cd disk?
Sometimes you can try different kinds and brands of external drives. Just like newer laptops that don’t have a cd/dvd drive. Certain drives or brands don’t work on most laptops. I use 8 year old Samsung model. SE-S084 and it always works on every laptop and desktop. I’m not saying it would work on the Xbox/PS5 but o think it has a better chance.
You can play content from a Flash Drive/ external storage device on PS5
It needs to be formatted to Fat32 or EXfat, ideally plugged into the a back USB port, then go on the PS5s media gallery and "USB" appears as one of the tabs works quite well.
Did you try the blue ray drive thing with the media player app instead of blue ray app?
Did you try the USB ports in the back of the Series S for the external Blu-Ray?
Great experiment with this..I was wondering this myself a few weeks ago
Fascinating video! Do you think it would have worked if it would have been made by the same manufacturer of the Xbox drives?
I think on ps5 you need to open a seperate folder or something like on the ps4
What both companies should do. Is allow the Digital consoles to detect other consoles with disks on the same network. Then authorize disks thru that console.
I'm not sure if this was mention but both systems and their disk drives have a unique coding where they can read from each other. The code has to be able to be read from the motherboard to the disk drive. That is why the external does not work as it does not have the code to talk to it. If it did it would open too many security flaws.
Your camera quality and setup color scheme look awesome! Crystal clear!
I think this is a software issue, which he hinted at in the video. It's not a lack of capability. It's the programming of the blu-Ray app. If it was possible to install 3rd party apps on Xbox series S you could make this work. What we really need is homebrew, or custom firmware, which would then allow you to install 3rd party apps. And, of course, a homebrew blue ray drive app. But it would have to be compiled to talk to the hardware Controller in the USB blu-ray drive. Not an easy task. I see the main problem here is that the blue ray app from the store is specifically coded to look for the xbox specific blue ray drive found In the xbox one and xbox series x. Otherwise, the software won't know how to talk to the hardware of whatever drive you plug in.
The idea of this video is brilliant. The way you thought of finding a way to help people with a low budget is amazing. Keep it up
the disc drive costs another $100 lmao
How does this video help anyone?
@@wraithdevourer3613 in what world cost a disc drive 100$ lol? They cost about 10-40$
@@dovahkiin8559 he's talking about blu-ray disc drives. they're more expensive.
great video!! very helpful
Xbox 360, Xbox One, and now Xbox Series X disc drives have to be "married to the motherboard." There is a unique "key" in the drives firmware that has to match the "key in the motherboard's NAND. You can't even use the drive from one Series X in another Series X, until the "people" find a technique to spoof/flash the keys to drives.
The HDMI copy right thing is in the way, stopping the disc content to be played
Like always, only legitimate users are affected by anti piracy measures.
Have you tried the back usb ports of the XSeries S.
Appreciated your efforts to prove or disprove brother🍀
Hey Simply Pops, I was curious about a couple things:
1) How did you get about getting a Series S?
2) Which model is the Blu-Ray?
3) Was that a USB 3.0 cable?
4) could you stream a DVD from a laptop to the Series S?
Thanks.
This is the future of backwards compatibility. The current generation of consoles will definitely be the last with models with Blu-ray players so next time I'm hopefully expecting them to provide USB Blu-ray players for backwards compatibility. Or some sort of trade in service to give us a digital license.
This is what the future of BC SHOULD look like, personally I don't think it will though
I love this type of random tests. +1 sub
edit: maybe with the dev mode enabled, there's something to investigate
ps5 can play movies from thumb drive, just not how sony intended. specific formatted movies using the ps5 media page which is for transfering saved game clips to usb
Si en lugar de una lectora convencional de Blu Ray conectas una unidad de grabación que soporte el formato ROM a la Xbox series s quizá funcione, aunque lo más seguro es que se necesita una aplicación creada para tal fin y también existe la posibilidad de que se haga un cuello de botella debido a la capacidad de transferencia de datos del USB.
Xbox Series S has 4K UHD for films, etc... and she can use 4K Opscaling for games.
This is rather interesting. I am not sure why but I never thought about if an external blue ray player would work. I'm not sure if Microsoft or sony ever thought of that.
Nice idea and I was hoping it would work but nope. Thanks for the upload
By the way the Xbox series s does support 4K media streaming it just doesn’t support 4K gaming. It supports 1440p upscaled to 4K for gaming
It is _aimed_ at 1440p for games, still it can run games at 4k like the Series X, but of course only graphically simpler games due to the slower GPU.
@@belzebub16 the 4k the series s plays is still upscaled from 1440p
The Tourist is 4k on the Series S. It's on Gamepass, look it up
@@HKgaming86 Minecraft Dungeons too :0 i always wondered why everyone says it can only run 1440p
I'd think it's Marques Brownlee's video...
Did you try booting up in Developer mode?
Very interesting video very educational 👍👍
The Series S system was not designed to use external disk drives of any kind. All thought I appreciate you trying this out. It's a Digital only console hinse the name. But again that was nice of you to test this out.
Microsoft could've implemented drivers/software for external drives. They just want you to buy the more expensive model.
*hence
Microsoft did something like this with HD-DVD (RIP). Standard experience with a console
They did it with the xbox 360
HD-DVD is not standard it's like the equivalent to a Blu-ray.
Lol.
The jittery looked like cool editing😂
I think they said the will make dvd drives available later meaning a system update will make it possible
The Series S does output in 4k. 1440p is generally seen as a marketing guideline for maximum game resolution. The system streams in 4k and upscales games in 4k. In fact some games (Ori and the Will of the Wisp) are rendered in 4k.
It's not native 4k. It's upscaled.
@@sleasy01 It IS native 4k. Many games are upscaled because they are rendered in a sub 4k resolution. But some games, like Ori, are native. Also, streaming services that offer 4k content are native as well. It is still HDMI 2.1 just like Series X and PS5.
@@Chris-nt1ns dude. The system does not render games at 4k. Microsoft didn't advertise 4k for gaming for it. They specifically said 1440p. The box doesn't even say 4k. Wherever you're getting your info from it's wrong. If it's not post it. It's 4k for series x. hdmi 2.1 has nothing to do with it being 4k. That's for 120fps and vrr
@@sleasy01 and you are simply wrong. I've owned a s for over a year now. While not every game can be output in 4k some, and many are. Ori wow just to name one. Regardless of Xboxes advertisement of peak FPS both systems have achieved higher FPS than advertised. The series X has potential to reach 8K as well as a series s reaching 4K. You shouldn't argue if you don't have any facts
@@jasonferguson9630 dude, cut the crap. The series s does not output 4k. Do you know the memory needed for a 4k image? How can it output something that it cannot do? It can upscale yes. But that's not true 4k. It can also stream a 4k image if you're watching TV. So stop speaking to me about series s doing 4k when you're the only person in the entire world making these claims. I have a series s and x in my home. So cut the crap
Maybe you should go to settings and add the new device at first? 🤞
There's nothing like that in Xbox Settings. There is only troublshooter for Kinect, but it's unusable on both Xbox Series S and X
thank you Bro. You answered my questions
For those saying the stutter on the S was caused by using a 2.0 thumb drive, why did that same drive play smoothly on the X?
The Series S (XSS) supports true 4K video output. So a 4K video or 4K video stream will output to true 4K. The XSS even has an HDMI 2.1 port. But, it only comes with an HDMI 1.4 cable. But even a 1.4 can output 4K but it's limited on the bandwidth (10.2Gbps for 1.4 vs 18Gbps for 2.0 vs 48Gbps for 2.1) for supporting 4K, 30fps vs 120fps, and other features.
Even in games the S can render at 4K resolution if a game is made that way (say a platform game) it just won't be the main resolution games will be rendered in (mostly 1080p and 1440p). The weaker RDNA2 GPU in the S is meant to run games from the much more powerful GPU found in the Series X at a lower resolution but still retaining much of that fidelity at those lower resolutions.
The Ps5 can play movies. You just need to make a folder called "Videos" and put all your movies in that folder. Same as music, just create a folder called "Music" and put your music in that folder.
And games folder? hah PS3 homebrew scene reference.....
I wonder if there are Blu-Ray player apps on the App Store, pretty sure there used to be on Xbox store before. It may be worth a shot.
Cool idea for a video, thanks!
this is the problem with the S series, many say that physical media is already dated today, and that the future is to be all digital. but whoever says that forgets that physical media is still important, if you want to see sell the game later, lend it to a friend or if the digital game is removed from the store because the server has run out, if you have the physical media you still have the game
Who buying series s is never going to buy games buddy he has 1080 p tv and only play free games and gamepass games
@@probahasingharoy5852 Nah man, at least, not all of em. People who can't afford the series X might still get the series S and then buy games.
@@probahasingharoy5852 well I bought the ps5 and I have 1080p 60hz only tv
Can I connect the series X controller to my Xbox one s all digital?
Yes
Yes all controllers are universal. From OG Xbox one controllers to now
Yes
when you connected the blue ray-player you should of used the media player app so you can see if it worked there
Good video thanks for share hope you show us connecting an external HDD to see what happens.
Just ask: Xbox series X have USB type C?
No, just the one on the controller
My cousins been saying “there gonna make a disc drive for the series s” why would they make a disc drive for an all digital console just get the x then shit
Is funny cause I subscribed after watching your ps5 external drive vid a few hours ago, now look at you
I just wanted to say your gaming corner looks really nice.
Thumb drives work on PS5 insert the drive, go to liberty/installed/media gallery, your usb drive will show up there.
I have an idea.
A disc drive fro Series S that can also use Xbox discs, connected to the proprietary expasion slot.
Not a bad idea considering Microsoft.
Microsoft is definitely gonna support external drive on the S. its only a matter of time.
Xss is a 4k machine also . Netflix, UA-cam , media files , can be played native 4k. Games are upscaled 4k.
What disk drive are you using? I like how slim and sleek it looks 🙂
That would be a great option if they can do that
Im pretty sure PS5 Digital and Xbox SS can do it if Microsoft and Sony wanted to because it can be done with a software update if they support it
quick answer #2
No for games
No for media content
No for bluray movies
aweh brother. thankyou for video 🙏
This is the only reason I'm not running to my computer and ordering a Series S right this second, at 2:30 in the morning.
As I Ps5 owner I was quite keen for the disk drive to work on Xbox series S. I might have waited a year but I would been interested in buying a series S so I could play a few of the games that interested me on Xbox a working Cd drive would have really cemented that decision for me.
The Series S could be a great console for PS5 owners that prefer the PS5 but still want to play a few Xbox titles.
true
series s is a dwarf in the room, it is performing worse than last gen one x in some tests but offers much better experience than one x. I own ps5 and one x, if you ever wanted to try xbox games then buy series x or wait for any slims or series y/z coming soon. Seriously series s is for people who are very casual or occasional gamers.
Loved the experiment. Maybe someone will solve the problem. But to be honest, it is very appealing to go all digital for casual gamers. It seems discs are really important thing to less and less people.
That's unfortunate. Several reasons for that, imo. For one, discs eventually go on sale, far before digital games. Also, you can never sell or give away your digital copy of a game, or take it to a friend's house to play. Plus companies are able to "double dip" by charging the same price for a digital copy as a disc. Digital games should generally be cheaper than discs it seems.
I'm a casual player, and I prefer disc version. I absolutely HATE buying a game online, just to find out that I don't like it after all. Plus having the boxes reminds me of what I have. if it's out of sight, it's out of mind.
Maybe use the usb media app for the external drive?
If I'm correct, Microsoft started encrypting communication between optical disc drive and the main processor starting with Xbox 360.
This is to basically trust the optical drive and prevent piracy.
And there is a video about Microsoft talking about Xbox One's security system, and they mention that the disc drive is paired with the processor, so that the disc drive can be trusted.
So it's no surprise that external ones don't work at all(though I think they could definitely add support for video playback).
Ps5 has a "media player app", you didn't take your time to search for it.
This is a series s
@@lmchannel2.079 watch the whole vid
If this worked it would have been the smartest work around to save money
Cool thanks for the video man.
You can play video from a thumb drive on the PlayStation five you just have to make sure your movies are in a movie folder then access the media gallery
Xbox is even sketchy with its own disk drives, u can’t really replace disk drives because there linked to you console which is stupid.
"Kids is an excellent movie"......... Lol, that is one messed up film, but it was good.
Thanks for a clear video👍
Try to use the App for usb-drive to play a DVD via ext
"I have a Blu Ray DVD"
Which one is it?!
I know right?!? Lol I can’t stand when peeps do that.... A DVD is a DVD lol