WATCH bonus content with *Natasha* on our Locals! triggernometry.locals.com/ CHAPTERS👇 00:00 Trailer 00:55 Intro 01:31 The modern blood libel 03:30 Genocide 08:05 Antisemitism in the media 10:08 UNRWA Brainwashing 12:45 Antisemitism in Palestinian culture 13:13 Palestinian kids’ TV show 16:16 Israeli security got lax about Hamas 17:50 You can pick up a salary for terror 19:46 Hamas’ use of human shields 22:31 SPONSOR: GDEFY Shoes 23:29 War crimes in Rafah? 26:20 Proportionality 29:34 Hamas killing Gazans and aid workers 31:48 Israel is losing the propaganda war 34:05 Israel is stuck between a rock and a hard place 39:27 Egypt is not complying with international law 43:48 Attacks by Iran and Lebanon 46:06 Is international law useless? 49:10 SPONSOR: Cozy Earth 50:16 Apartheid 55:51 Israel has no choice but to fight 1:00:08 America’s impact on the war 1:03:17 ‘The Two State Delusion’ 1:06:31 What needs to be done to bring about peace 1:09:04 Occupation 1:13:35 What’s the one thing we’re not talking about?
@@triggerpod why should we ? Extra x minutes of propaganda from a beautiful woman ? You guys made me watch what we have been hearing for the past year , and you guys have not question her once … shame !!
dont be naive the mainstream media and western governments and agencies want to supress the truth as it challneges and undermines the view of palestinians as victims
Those children indoctrination TV programs are one of the most chilling and horrifying things I have ever witnessed. I think it's fair to say that the majority of people in the west aren't aware of this. If they were, I'd expect a bit of a shift in opinion...
If pro Palestinians see this, I bet they won’t change there opinion, they will justify it anyway since younger generation of people have been taught “if someone is considered oppressed, it justifies whatever action they take”, that’s the modern western liberal mindset!
Do we have to ask them because you don’t know? You don’t sound like you know, you sound like you have spotted a correlation and decided it’s causation. You’re a clown
@@dusk2dawn2 I suggest you do what @discod992 and others including myself have done. The information is available online and in books, etc. I am very familiar with the Middle East. Too many Palestinians have caused problems for other Middle Eastern countries when they move to these places. Kuwait threw out 300K of the 350K Palestinians living there after Saddam Hussein foolishly invaded Kuwait in the Gulf War. Only Palestinians married to Kuwaitis were allowed to stay. The other Gulf State countries felt the same about Palestinians. Jordan had problems with terrorists living there. Egypt doesn't want them as Hamas is an outbranch of the Moslem Brotherhood which was formed in Egypt. It took decades for Egypt eliminate the Moslem Brotherhood. I hope this helps you look into this in more detail.
I was a teacher at an International Baccalaureate (IB) school in Dubai and I was warned not to teach anything about Jews and not to mention holocaust, I still did and then I was fired as I expected. The same was true for Kuwait , my coworker showed a map to kids with Israel on it and the head of the school held a meeting because of that and asked her why she did it and requested to remove pages from books if contained such maps, because there is no such country as Israel, that happened in 2022 and I am sure nothing has changed. I talked to IB about my experience and they replied that it's up to schools to decide how they implement their curriculum. 🙄
@@talmudovsky they have been convinced that Jews aren't indigenous to the Middle East and they are European migrants who took homes from Palestinians by force. Besides, their religious leaders preach that Jews disrespect Islam, and this is what my coworker , a Muslim female teacher posted as her whatsapp story. I once mentioned the Diary of Anne Frank when teaching in Kuwait (I was there for 2 months before going to Dubai), of course no one knew about it, I said that it's a must read book and that Anne Frank l was Jewish and students looked at each other as if I said some prohibited word. And when I talked about holocaust at an IB school in Dubai (Dar Al Marefa is the name of the school) one of the students from one of the richest families of Dubai interrupted me and said that we don't have evidences that really happened and Jews probably did it themselves. My experience also shows that it's simply prohibited to talk the truth, so they are simply brainwashed because their politicians needs so. The UAE shouldn't have that interest and I was surprised when I was asked not to talk about holocaust even there, but there are other bit more complicated reasons why Muslims still demonize Jews even when they don't have rationale reasons for that: that reinforced their identification of being a Muslim, as someone opposite of a Jew , their self-identity is partly built on the negative image of a Jew (same is true for Turks and Armenians) and I believe their non-secular political regime, Islamic intolerance to everything that's foreign is intrinsically opposite of western values, and Israel brought it to the Middle East (as you may know Israel accepts LGBTQ people from Palestine who couldn't be themselves anyone else in the Middle East ) and that's something Muslims don't like as well. Many Muslims see Israel as a country created by the West to control the Middle East, unfortunately such postcolonial literature (such as Walter Mignolo) is too popular in the West and there are other reasons for that.
@@TakoGoksadze Thank you for your thoughtful response. You have mentioned many misconceptions that preoccupy the Umma, and I understand how problematic and even dangerous your teaching quest is. I would like to commend you for undertaking this effort. You have my admiration and gratitude.
@@talmudovsky thanks, probably not so dangerous for me since they didn't take me seriously :)) but just recently when I've commented on this topic some people entered my instagram profile and commented under my 3 year old niece's photos that she is a Zionist kid and I've not even told this to my family, because they already worry that I am working on this topic; I want to write my thesis about that. Middle Eastern experience was somewhat traumatic for me even though I'm not a Jew, I can imagine how difficult it is for Jews to tolerate so much accusations and I can see that even in Germany , where too many professors and students seemed to be familiar with only Palestinian side of the story that millions of Muslims talk about, while many Jews living in Germany lost their friends when the war started. It's disturbing how even international politics professors don't know that attacks on Israel are systematic or don't take it seriously.
WOW...This woman is one of the BEST guests this show has ever had. She finally was able to answer for me a lot of questions that I always have had about the Israel and Palestine situation. Just wow...Thank You for having her on and make sure you book her again.
ICJ in most recent advisory opinion, facts on the ground and international law in general really disagree with here fictitious facts and applications of international law but whatever.
I find it very difficult to take anyone seriously who insists that one side is wholly right and the other is wholly wrong. There is seemingly nothing that Israel could do that she would criticise.
@@RS-zp6hb Agreed. Although in this conflict I'm having a hard time finding fault with their response to the Oct. 7 attack. A possible fault could be that they're being too careful and should rather raze the place to the ground (not literally) since most of the Gazan population is no different than Hamas. But that would be irresponsible (even if moral in the strict sense) since the world doesn't understand the hatred the Palestinians have been indoctrinated in.
What's amazing is that anyone with eyes sees reality, but the imaginary Narrative always seems to win and why so many people, unrelated to the conflict are desperate to maintain their belief in the Narrative.
I didnt know that…thank you! I did know that the 3 heads of Hamass are all billionaires! Not multi millionaires or simple millionaires! Did they create Arab Google or something? No! Thats pity money from the West and the taxes I pay. Barf. If you can spin a story and get people to feel sorry for you, the bleeding heart will tolerate, forgive, ignore and apologize for ANY act of barbarism. It is truly the Achilles heel of the human mind. Marx stumbled upon that by accident and for that reason people are willing to give his lame ideas a try again. If you feel sorry for Hamass, you been played fool.
@@backinthegame34 Don't even. It has been well known since the 90's that Arafat and senior PLO members stole aid money left and right. I was literally in university at that time studying international relations, and I was aware of this at the time. Stop it.
Golda Meir the one time Israeli Prime Minister once said, " There will be no peace until the Palistinians love their children more than they hate us ". How true !
Yeah, not racist at all. All those people we see crying over their dead children in Gaza are jusr acting. Theyre actually happy their children are dead. What disgusting thing To say. Also, its strange how zionists are constantly implying that hatred and racism is completely foreign To Israeli jews hatred for arabs and palestinians is so not a thing in israel uh? They all love the arabs so much
@@KeithBrighouse-r3k Israeli children aren't being indoctrinated to hate and kill another group. Y'all are professional "I know you are but what am I" kids
@@KeithBrighouse-r3k Indeed. The narrative is all one-sided. If people actually LOOKED objectively at what is happening in Israel/Palestine they would think about the situation differently. Israe IS practicing Apartheid and according to the UN/ICJ what is happening in Gaza is by their definition a Genocide. Anyone who can't see this needs to take a long hard look at the reality of Israel/Palestine
@@KeithBrighouse-r3k Israeli education does not teach children to hate palestinians or arabs compared to gazan education taught to hate jews! Hatred for arabs is not systematic in Israel, besides there 2 million arab israeli citizens given same rights as jews, they can criticise there government if they want!
@@KeithBrighouse-r3k Hamas has what they teach children published online in great detail, its a very long read. I wont be silient on it and if someone has what Israel teaches children handy i wont be quiet about that neither. But i do believe that whats taught by Hamas will be completely ignored by anyone that does support hamas. I am disgusted with it, ive provided for my children at the expence of my own health to make sure they have a safe roof, food and everything else they need. Hamas and its followers are really an abomination and insult to good parenting. What Hamas teaches at school with parents full well knowing it too is a disgrace and thier is no valid excuse or reason to do this to a child.
This indoctrination of kids is in every Muslim household all over the world. There are no Jews on the island of Mauritius yet the Muslims there have a pathological hatred of Jews!
Ah yes, typical person who is incapable of thinking for himself. You realize that these things happen in response to something right? The dominant force in that country isn't nearly as innocent as this lying hag wants you to believe.
I can give you some facts too, shutting off the water supply and food supply to 2.3 million people will cause them to die of dehydration, hunger and cholera. Maybe Natasha can convince you that this is also a blood libel?
@@ibntulun9405 literally, it has no legal basis because i said so, i wish when these people came on they pointed to what their sources are. If the ICC states Israel is comitting genocide and is illegally occupying Palestian territory, it is doing those things. So from my understanding shes another person who doesnt believe the ICC is a reputable institution and has no legal footing. Along with this, i wish they would point out Israeli propaganda as well, there is hate on both sides. Though what either of us say, people with slop this stuff up.
@@notorioushsg1It's called 'Palestinian who became Jewish after escaping Gaza: "I could have been one of the killers" l Kan 11' Edit: I've just realized my mistake- that video is actually about the life story of Yaron Avraham (they both have similar life stories because they both grew up in a Palestinian environment and decided to convert to Judaism). The video about Dor Shahar's life story is called "Arab Palestinian Warns the World about Hamas | Real Talk" I recommend watching both of the videos
it's new to western people since the woke is training their kids the first gen so they still don't recognise it as a problem. The former soviet block still knows the stuff two generations later and is avoiding anything similar to happen again. But third gen won't remember anything as well.
Note that all those clips from Arab television refer to "Jews," not to "Israelis." Anyone who claims that there is a distinction between "anti-Zionist" and "anti-Jewish" is a liar.
Number one, did it ever occur to you, that when they say "Jews", they actually only mean "Jews", rather than using it as a shorthand for "citizens of israel", as you seem to be implying they do?? Number two, why WOULD they make a distinction? The state Israel has Judaism as the state religion. "The Jews" are the ones making the decisions. Israel, very explicitely is a jewish state. Number three, why do you think any criticism leveled against the politics pusured by the state of israel is immediately misconstrued as "Anti-semitism"?
Its important to note that those were islamic childrens programs. They do not distinguish as it is not in thier interest. Not everyone against the state of Israel right now is an islamic fundamentalist however. A zionist is somebody who believes that the jewish people have a God given right to the land of Israel. Somebody who is anti-jewish could hate thier race, religion, or both, simultaneously there is nothing in such a simple disdain that obligates it to the land of Israel. So the original comment is ignorant to the makers of the video and many of those who currently oppose Israels actions that are in line with the concept of manifest destiny which few people favor.
This interview highlights essentials points that have been completely lost in the general discourse in understanding what Israel is up against. The extremism and antisemitism in Palestinian society must be addressed. There are also many brave Palestinian activists who speak out against extremism whose voices do not get amplified enough by international media.
Natasha was brilliant on the Munk Debates with Douglas Murray! She's a rising star as a social and political commentator ✨️ keep your eye on her, this woman is destined for big things! ❤
After watching tons of news and interviews about this never-ending conflict, I must raise my hat to this brilliant lawyer! Natasha, you simply nailed it 👏👏👏👏
Thank you for including the clips of the children's program. That chilled my blood. Truly horrifying. Meanwhile, do Israeli textbooks and children's programs have the same propaganda? Of course not. That says it all. How can you reason and come to peace with a entire group that has been radicalized since birth? Frightening.
@@danielbwestIndoctrination of hate based simply on the religion of people at the youth level is the problem. Who does that? I’ll tell you who does that… but what good would it do? You’re dug in.
They literally do 😂😂 UA-cam is full with video interviews of young Israeli believing Palestinians are cockroaches and they are the elected people who were given that land
@@dcarts5616 and you're soo convinced jews in Israel don't brainwash their children in the same way? How do you explain the zionist far right EVEN IN THE GOVERNMENT? Let's be honest here
@@chrisjackson9626 exactly!! a white woman talking like a psychopath. so chill so innocent so beautiful and peaceful. talking about colonized poeple and children and demonizing them to justify the atrocities of israel against them. in this war for 10 months israel killed 15000 children and still many under the rubbles. in the west bank where there's no khamas they killed 150 child. many of the rest are orphans and displaced. “This war is a war on children. It is a war on their childhood and their future,” said UNRWA Commissioner-General Philippe Lazzarini.
She is brilliant. We need her more in these public debates. She is very good at exposing the pro-Palestinian side of this conflict and showing that it isnt just a simple "Oppressor / Oppressed" narrative, like they all try to spin it as.
Normal Isreal Propaganda but it's just you the New to it. First starting with saying all the life footages that comes out of thousands of people are controlled by Hamas really!!. The second make all Palestinian as devil's all what they want to kill. While she didn't say that more than 100k Palestinian workers were in Israel on 7/10. President of the sponsor country of the genocide himself said Israel indiscriminately target civilian. And for the death toll the Pentagon stated that their estimation is higher than the Gaza health. For the bombing warnings it is your lucky day if you get one. Because all the footages of whole families under the rubbles didn't get one. And she with straight face said Hamas targeted aids workers where Isreal itself admitted that. What a shame such people have platforms to spread lies after lies and justifying slaughtering people.
This is the best explanation I've heard of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. She provided mostly facts with almost no emotional or subjective response. Thought provoking questions from Konstantin 👏
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Unsurprisingly, because she is so knowledgeable and articulate, not a single mainstream media outlet will ever host her and afford Natasha a real platform.
@@BAD_CONSUMER The "victims" you don't actually care about other than that you have been conditioned to think that you care about all the poor brown people? Did you ever call people who died in other wars "victims"? Nah. You never even gave them a thought. Did anyone ever ask any other country who has been in a war (particularly a war started by someone else) to give an explanation to "victims" of those wars? Of course not. Part and parcel of the triple standard imposed upon Israel. I beg of you people to stop this nonsense of pretending to give a rat's ass about the people of Gaza, most of whom are ready to participate in the radical Islamic goal that pervades the middle east to destroy the West. The people of Gaza ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.
@@BAD_CONSUMER Look at me, refusing to learn history and pretending to care about people I never gave a thought to until doing so gave me license to publicly engage in Jew hatred.
Problem is, no matter how many facts Natasha presents and connects into a coherent argument, the people who are the main problem will never be touched or affected by her presentation because facts are irrelevant to them and dishonesty for any self interested purpose is perfectly acceptable.
Plus she does cherry pick a particular narrative that is so polished to support Israel it's uncanny. It's almost like the whole of Israel's PR machine has chosen the perfect innocent face to present the 'truth'. Things she says have massive holes in them if you know more than surface. e.g. Why don't Israel allow reporters or observers into Gaza so the news can come out from someone other than Hamas? Because that would be more difficult to contradict.
@@largeformatlandscapeNo, because Hamas would not allow these embedded people to report whatever they want. No, the cherry picking is Hamas to the outside world. Moreover, the children programs should be sufficient documentation unless every fact is coined « chery picking »
What a brilliant lady this woman is. I am filled with utter digust at the "international community" that has failed Israel since 1948, and at the UN that has blood on it's hands and in a way culpability for enabling the massacre of Israelis on the 7th of October 2023.
But how do you explain Benjamin Netanyahu funding Hamas? Helping Saudi Arabia give money directly to Hamas? Even couple weeks prior to October 7th? The indiscriminate bombing that is killed thousands of women and children? What about the thousands of Palestinians have died bombing areas where Israel hostages are… even the Israeli hostages fearing their death by Israeli targeted strike rather than a Hamas terrorist…
@@Grandmas_Favorite If true, it would have been a naive divide at impera attempt, Hamas vs Fatah. Netanyahu is at least formally more responsible for keeping the guard down from attacks. But the question is: how do you explain that all the West - my taxes as well! - supported and still supports UNRWA, which was the creator and maintainer of the situation which caused Hamas, Fatah, Pij and all the other jihadists groups and created the condition for the very concept of "Palestine" * to be invented in the 60s? * In the newspeak word meaning
America had it's own version many years ago called Wondershowzen. It was a vile hate filled child programming show designed to make the viewers hate America and the West.
@@chrisjackson9626 That term "bot" has been used a lot more than it has been defined, but the closest thing to the common perception is an account that copy/pastes the same comment in multiple threads. Like you do.
"Copies of Mein Kampf" I have always said that the rhetoric Nazi Germany used to justify genocide and the rhetoric Islam uses to justify their hatred of Jews is identical. Hitler had a relationship with Islam, also.
after Mein Kampf came out, middle east was the biggest buyer of it. especialy Palestine.. who allied in 1941 to Germany, as the original PLO quote goes from Amin al Husseini, the creator of it "from the river to the sea, of jewish blood Palestine shall be free"
The Palestinians also name their clothing stores after Hitler. Look up "Hitler 2 clothing stores in Palestine"...the mannequins have knives in their hands.
I'm not familiar with Natasha Hausdorff nor her work before - but I'm immensely comfortable in saying we need to hear a LOT more from her on this issue, THIS is the type of panellist who should be on every Question Time and related media. Thanks hugely to Triggernometry for bringing her on for this, all I ask for from Natasha Hausdorff is more please! This considered and concise perspective cuts through the hysteria, hype, propaganda and rape-politics that are turning London into a fascistic super-state and that's GOT to stop.
@@yyy-875 I do like that for a t-shirt "Tungsten fist in a silk glove". I agree that appearing sparingly on such forums has its advantages professionally and functionally - that said she has an immensely important message to get out there and people *NEED* to see this especially in the ideologically fashion-driven chattering classes who simply shout things they think are currently "cool" to gain status or inclusion points with people they want to aspire to associate with (what Rob Henderson coined "luxury beliefs displays"). The presentation of a succinct and well formed argument to counter all the rhetoric is remarkably powerful in itself - especially for the casually involved to witness. They will hear the shouts, squeals and threats from the pro-terrorist rabble who use this cloud of hatred to cover themselves even from law enforcement involvement (who would barely hesitate to nab anyone doing same to their side yet they're free to wander London hunting Jews as we've seen in the past few months). The likes of Douglas Murray or even Ben Shapiro do a fairly good job of putting the counterpoint but they're also seen as quite "embedded" with the Israeli side - Ms Nausdorff given her comparatively low profile and her tightly integrated response could form a rather good counter to much of this I think, also in a form short enough for "normies" (those not involved with either side) to ingest, process and probably adopt rather quickly. I'm wondering if there are perhaps more opportunities to bring her and others like her into the fore - the chattering classes would be quite intellectually intimidated by such a response as they know they are merely shouting bumper sticker slogans for social media likes from people they don't know, after this they would quite clearly and unarguably look the fool. We genuinely need this especially in these ideologically captive areas in urban areas where expression of "luxury beliefs" (as Rob Henderson described it) trounces all including the welfare and survival of entire peoples.
You’ll hardly find Konstantin this quiet and he and Francis kept staring at Natasha with the “What the Hell” eyes… it’s been a while they had a guest who knew what she’s saying but most importantly how she articulate her thoughts orderly and very clear….
Natasha speaks so well and you asked her some great and difficult questions. Very well made and important video. Thank you for that! Hope more people will get to see it and listen to it!
A request from trigonometry, please bring Dor Shahar a Palestinian from gaza (originally named as Ayman Abu Suboh) to speak up about his experience as a gazan growing up in the environment in Gaza.
There are also Mosab Hassan Yousef and Yasmine Mohammed, Gad Saad, Brigitte Gabriel, the latter two being from Lebanon. And countless Iranians who have escaped the Islamic Republic regime.
If he has grown up in Gaza, he will have been indoctrinated/ brainwashed from a very young age to hate, kill Jews and die proudly as a martyr. Go back to the nursery rhymes 13 mins into the podcast. To really know what happens in Gaza, follow Mossab Yousef. He went to prison in Israel but has managed to get himself out of it now.
It seems to be a common thread these days where people use selected terms to serve their own purpose without reference to their actual meaning. Something "Phobic" now means you have a different point of view.
FINALLY, someone is challenging the reference to “refugee camps”. I’ve been to several on the West Banks and these are indeed most of all towns with apartment buildings. Yet densely populated, but not “a camp”.
Also people should ask themselves why there are over 2 million refugees inside of Palestine?, there were many jews living in the west bank before Jordan took over in 1948, there didn't remain jewish refugees, they rebuild their lives in other parts of Israel.
It's a money laundering scam. UNWRA/UN/ICJ(because they all fall under the same umbrella of the UN) declare that 'palestine' is a refugee camp' and that palestinians are 'refugees', that means that per UN policy they can get constant aid money from the tax payers of UN nations indefinitely, that they have been giving to Hamas and other terrorist organisations. It was just a few weeks ago i saw a video of a family trying to get food aid from an UNWRA facility in Gaza and Hamas were there, they shot the family, Hamas and UNWRA are one in the same, they work together, tbh i think there is no Hamas without UNWRA , and there is no UNWRA without Hamas.
@@IskBrul My answer was deleated. They already are in Palestine what do yiu mean to leave?, nobody asked them to leave..., read the "war of return"...
Yup. A place with running water, electricity, stone-block and concrete buildings and shopping malls is a "town" or a "city", not a "refugee camp". The term is used to put a certain image into people's heads.
@@sbaumgartner9848 Can you go into more detail why you think that her points DO pose uncomfortable truths and what those are? Because I see none. thnx.
The point that Egypt won't do anything to help Palestinians, when they have a legal responsibility todo so. And no one is saying anything about it but just complaining about Israel and touting they're Islamic or humanitarian brotherhood. Shows the hypocrisy Edit: guessing that's his point
Thank you for having on a giest who actually answers the questions, unlike the Hamas appologists who complain, interrupt, deflect, and flat out refuse to engage in adult conversation.
This is the most important video anyone can watch to explain the situation in Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank. Thank you for bringing this brilliant woman on to your show!
I beg to differ. This is a full zionist version of the Israel - terrorist conflict. Listen to her language before affirming her to be one of the good guys. She reminds of the Sinn Fein tv interviews in the 70s and 80s...yes, I am that old.
Not interested in what the Irish have to say after the recent developments in their country. Zionism is simply Jews existing in their own land, that they have inhabited for thousands of years. Meanwhile the Irish are from all across Europe, Britain etc.
It aint a discussion - it's a lecture. Compare how many times they interrupt or interject to any other interview they've done. It's like 5 times in the first 30 minutes, when so many actual substantive points of contention could be raised. Basically propaganda, not gonna lie. Crazy the direction these guys have gone over the last year
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla they are incompetent and/or ignorantly hate Israel, leading to a bias towards the terrorist Arab factions and against the peaceful Jews. And if you think I am wrong, go live here until you are accustomed to the local culture and language.
This is the best interview I’ve watched on the Israel situation. It’s full of facts, not opinion. Natasha provides intelligence, eloquence, clarity and truth, even when faced with challenging questions. Superb!! Thank you for this. Please send it to Piers Morgan, David Lammy and Keir Starmer, who clearly lack the knowledge which is desperately needed.
Think it needs to be watched by many lefties taking to the streets of London to March at pro Palestine marches many on these marches are just going along with it and when asked questions as to why they are there can't answer
Hundreds of thousands of Finns were forced to leave Karelen, and were welcomed by Finland. Millions of Germans were forced to leave there homes, and were welcomed by Germany. And on it goes. Why are not Arabs from Gaza welcomed by other Arabs. Is it intentional?
I guess UA-cam is allergic to truth since they censored my first comment. So specifically, Jordan doesn't want them because they tried to overthrow the Jordanian government after being given refuge there. That is a historical fact and if UA-cam censors that then they're covering up the truth.
100% agree with everything said. I've tried to rationally discuss the same points with my friends who've been brainwashed by propaganda and have zero historical understanding. I came to realize it's virtually impossible to make people listen who are intellectual lazy and harbor antisemitic feelings.
I've experience the same thing. One person actually was asserting that one does not have to know about the history because his personal experience is all he needs to assess what is occurring. This person also is clueless about war ethics. I had to explain to him what just war theory is and the principle of double effect, both of which he never heard of. Yet he asserts the Israel is committing.... lines. He continued to proceed with assumptions that whatever Israel is doing is ethically illicit, they are given blanket permission to do whatever they like by allies such as the US. We all know that is nonsense. Israel itself restricts its own actions. In addition, it is held to higher standards and impossible standards by most in the international community. Of course he had no idea that 20% of Israelis are Arabs (the vast majority support the war) or that about 50% of Israelis are from the Middle East, being ethnically cleansed. He voices that Israel has the right to exist, but in the end he arrives at the same place as antisemites including his use of Zionism and Zionists as slurs.
@@chrisjackson9626 Confirmation bias is not assenting to sound arguments. Assenting to sound arguments and claims is being a rational and reasonable person. What reason requires when not agreeing with claims and arguments is demonstrating how they are incorrect. Go head, how is she wrong? If one presents only sound arguments then, one is rational to agree with all of them and being irrational is not agreeing. In fact, what you are actually forwarding is indicative of confirmation bias. I suggest you look in a mirror.
I am biased. I've lived in Israel as a non citizen. Just a traveler who found the nation fascinating, and returned there many times over the late 80s and early 90s. I didn't come there as a Zionist, but subscribed to that philosophy soon after my first 6 month stay there. I lived among Arabs there as well as Jews. If any nation on Earth has reason to stay, and last, and prosper, it's Israel. I don't know how anyone exposed to Israel as i was can not acknowledge this simple fact.
Wish that were true, there are Messianic Christians in my city who travel and live in Israel who believe it to be a nation built by the anti-Christ. There are Messianic Jews in Israel who believe the same. It's messy.
@@nuqwestr There are those who believe that the British royal family are reptiles in skin suits and those that love them. it's messy. Who knows who to trust. Such a dilemma.
"I am shocked by the claim that the free, diverse, democratic state of Israel practices apartheid. This ridiculous accusation trivialises the word apartheid, minimising and belittling the racism and suffering endured by South Africans of color." Rev. Dr. Kenneth Meshoe, Member of the South African Parliament. Claiming that Israel is an apartheid state is, therefore, a grave injustice to those who actually lived under an apartheid regime. Apartheid, collective punishment, famine, open air prison, occupation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide are the gaslighting propaganda buzzwords and phrases used to gain sympathy for Hamas and hate for Israel. All are false but the ignorant fall for it!
@@BAD_CONSUMER neutral party here. Just wondering what your strategy would be in those circumstances. Not confrontation, I'm not strategically minded and couldn't think of another way to defend these accusations, assuming their false. And I'd assume if they are accepted as true, this will impede the Israelis by means of some global law.
So, the people in the west bank who have Israel controlling and policing their lives are classified as occupied. There are different rules for what Israeli settlers vs Palestinians can do in the West bank, down to who can walk on what road and who can get on a bus. That's where I believe the apartheid accusations come from. What gives Israel the right to treat them like that?
“Who are Palestinians? Palestinians don’t come from Palestine… Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis." - Hamas Minister Fathi Hammad, March 23, 2013 ua-cam.com/video/4UhVcAfMmuc/v-deo.html
Even better The Arabs are of Yemenite origin. Not from the Levant, just like Islam isn't from the Levant. Or from Iran, Or from Afghanistan, or from Turkey.
@@bertnl530 What is a "Palestinian Arab"? It is a term made up by Yasser Arafat in 1965 to describe Syrians, Yemenis and Egyptians who were illegal alien trespassers in the British Mandate of Palestine which was a Jewish province. Yasser Arafat himself was Egyptian. There never was any Arab nation or kingdom of Palestine.
@@roynexus6 Yes Arafat was born in Egypt but he was born to Palestinian parents, his father was from Gaza, and it's really not that hard to check. White people settled in places in America, canada, new zealand, australia etc, and are the majority in these countries, should they go back to europe where their ancestors were from then? I personally know Palestinians who can trace their ancestry even before the 1600s
@@seuntimilehin3381 No Arab called himself a Palestinian before Israel declared independence in 1948. Modern "Palestinian" identity is a parasitic entity that can only exist in terms related to its hostility to Israeli Jews.
@RussellNelson Lebanon was a majority Christian nation in the middle east once named as Paris of the east it had a good economy good schools and universities many from surrounding countries would go to live work and study .
Finally. I have been learning from Natasha for more than a year. She deserves to be heard by millions. I would submit that she is the Fifth Element of Jewish defense against antisemitism in all its incarnations.
@@chrisjackson9626 On practical mode, since Oct.7 it has been continuous education from both sides. Especially, from the opposite. As they say, keep your friends close but enemies even closer.
@@talmudovsky as an autistic chap, I don't go for motto's they seem rather pointless, I just seek the truth. Sadly, it's not to be found on this podcast.
@@chrisjackson9626 Truth is ultimate purpose of learning. It is hard for me to even comprehend who in the world would think that stipulation to learn can be pointless. Ironically, it makes your 'seeking the truth' intention, without emphasizing learning, rather pointless. It appears to me that you are just in search of validation for your own axioms and narratives. However, even from merely visiting this podcast, you have just learned that not everybody shares your beliefs.
A real super woman, eloquent, knowledgeable, forceful, and dare I say beautiful. The Palestinian "struggle" is in my opinion the longest and the most cynical and vile con in human history, and worst of all perpetuated by the UN and International money.
Blaming all the wrongdoing onto only one side without taking one's share of responsibility is a tell tell sign of either immaturity or propaganda or both... There's no question that Islam in its texts and hamas in its interpretation of these horrific texts have to be stopped. But one's also need to reckon that the Bible, from which Islamic text are derived, is also a source of horrific behavior. When the Israeli prime minister refers to the amalekites in his official speech, he is referring to one of the many genocides ordered by god in the Hebrew texts. The main underlying reason for this conflict is purely religious. 3 violent religions fighting each other in the name of an imaginary god of wrath nobody has ever met! Christians support zionists in hope that will hasten judgment day - a moment of unimaginable violence, the apocalypse. Zionists claim they have a 3000 year old property title in the form of a fairytale book full of genocidal stories. Islamists follow a prophet who also committed genocidal acts and imitate him. Religion in general, and these 3 in particular, are the bane of today's world. They should never leave the confine of people's homes. They should never be used to justify political actions. Unfortunately, they are.... And that kills too many humans around the world.
Why can't the whole world all be this sensible? Natasha Hausdorrf is so factual and does not argue with emotions, just facts. She doesn't hate anybody, she wants peace.
@@chrisjackson9626 Japanese Christian living in the UK. I'm 73 years old and wouldn't know how to create a bot if I wanted to, I'm simply making an observation about a woman with morals who I find very admirable. Clearly the reasons I like her are the same reasons you don't. I think your problem is with the truth, not Natasha Hausdorrf or me. Any factual arguments or just childish insults from you?
What an amazing interview. I didn't know Natasha before but I was pleasantly surprised as she is someone who is using facts, logic and reason in her arguments instead of yelling and screaming full hatred nonsense.
We've waited for decades for foreign media to expose the true nature of our Arab neighbors. I consider this talk as the best one you've had by far. Of course it could be much longer and cover more important stuff but it was still one of the most important videos on the issue on the internet. God bless you and your viewers.
Watch Brigette Gabriel on Lebanon and is-lam and Dr Bill Warner on this subject too he shows the golden age of is-lam and every country they have invaded Afghanistan India Africa Turkey right up to Spain when the crusades pushed back
Thank you for posting this interview. I am desperately hoping for people to get educated, before they do worse things than they already have in the name of "freeing Palestine". They seem to be resistant to actual research, but I hope some of them see this.
What an excellent interview. Thank you guys, your guests are amazing. This lady is intelligent, knowledgeable, articulate and I am in awe of her ability to convey her points.
she is a brilliant and well-informed woman. find it weird if you havent heard about her before, because she is a well-known international law lawyer that's been speaking up for israel for years
Why aren't those awful, creepy children TV shows seen on mainstream media? We don't see any video clips on The Times, The Guardian, The BBC, The Washington Post. The majority of people aren't aware such children TV shows even exist, which is one of the reason that many are very confused.
Surprised? You have seen nothing yet. Search for MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute). You will be... You will see the level of propaganda and indoctrination.
For more enlightening broadcasts translated into English, see the website of MEMRI, the Middle East Media Research Institute. These videos are freely available.
Those children indoctrination videos are shocking. I'm Maltese and i could understand a few words here and there. Every time i understood a bit of what they were saying, it sent shivers down my spine because it confirms that the subtitles are correct!
The best explanation I have evver heard, not only on the legal issues but also on the history of the area. Her answer when asked whether Israel has a future was magnificent.
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. Thank you Natasha for this succinct, detailed and very clear explanation of that long lasting conflict I have literally never heard before. Never.
Your face looks deeply shocked Konstantin... Finally the truth instead of emotional left wing indoctrination.... Its time people were educated, another excellent content from trigonometry, keep up the ground breaking work for society. Natasha a very smart lady, very datable 😊
"The jews began to immigrate massively to Palestine in the mid-19th century, but they have always been present in that territory. In Jerusalem, they formed the majority of the population from 1845. They worked hard to clean up the marshlands of malaria - bought at an exorbitant price from the Ottomans - and prepared for the rebirth of Israel. Mass immigration of Arabs in the late 19th century was the result of economic development and modernization following Jewish immigration. Arab immigrants then came in search of livelihoods. With the migration of Jews to the Land of Israel between 1870 and 1947, the Arab population of the region increased by 270%. Their effort to revitalize the land attracted an equally large immigration of arabs from neighboring regions, attracted by job opportunities and healthier living conditions, as well as medical care provided by the many doctors. There has never been any attempt to «get rid» of the few indigenous, nor to prevent the masses from seeking the prosperity brought by the j." The UNWRA had then trapped the peoples in a status of hereditary assisted : food aid, free housing (first in tents then actual houses), teaching and free care, without providing any work in return. A fate that the fellahs toiling for the great families of notables and housed in huts of dried mud would never have dared to dream of before the "Naqba". So much so that of the 600,000 inhabitants of the territory devolved to the Jews, 175,000 remained there, and 700,000 registered at UNRWA... the difference being explained by the number of Lebanese, Jordanians, Syrians and Egyptians registered as refugees. Many among the "infiltrators" returned under Israeli sovereignty (eg.: the poet Mahmoud Darwiche), the mass remaining attached to the refugee status transmissible from father to son (hence the staggering number of inbred marriages to maintain status in the family, with the subsequent health problems). So no, no one "stole" their land: they sold it shamelessly (up to 8,000% profit for 10,000 hectares of malaria-infested marshes in Galilee sold by Elias Sursuq) to the Jewish National Fund. And even Kfar Etzion in the West Bank, who came in 1942, whose inhabitants taken prisoner by the Arab Legion were massacred by Palestinian civilians in 1948. It was on the orders of the Arab High Committee, promising them a victorious return within 15 days, with the right of pogrom, that they fled the fighting. And found the refugee camps more comfortable than their former houses."
@@DarkAngel2512 If 1/5 of the Israeli population today is arab, it's because some chose to come back. For those who haven't, i'll let an anonymous from elsewhere give an idea : "[...] The Ottoman Land Registry of 1858 to 1871 showed that only 13% of the land was privately owned. The British Land Survey of 1945 showed that Palestinian farmers only owned 3.3% of the land. The wealthy absentee Arab land holders (living in Damascus, Cairo, Allepo, Beirut and other cities) owned 16.5% of the land. The Jews owned 8.6% of the land. And, 70% of the land was State Land, transferred from the Ottomans, to the British, and then to Israel. Israel was created by almost 80% of non-Arab owned lands. Any lands that are in Israel proper that a family has a valid deed to, can still go to Israeli courts (since 1948) and be reimbursed for any lands claimed by the war. Any lands in Gaza or the "West Bank" are not under Israeli government as a sovereign of the land. Whether Jew or Arab, no claims can be made on these lands with Israel."
@@DarkAngel2512That's exactly the thing - the fact is that there only a few single cases where Israel "took" homes from Arabs, and anyone that had any proof that he owned a land (or any realastate) where given it's property back, or if not possible given an equal compensation. The truth is that the majority of the land bought fairly by jews before 48, and any land gained after the war wasn't just annaxed and claimed as a state property. Everything have been happened according to the Israeli law and court (during wars that Israel didn't start and always tried to dodge), wich are a lot more genres than the international law.
I'd say a "19th Century" "Massive" migration is an exaggeration, and excludes the emigration out of the Turkish Empire at that time. Jews were moving in both directions. Jews were the majority of East Jerusalem and about 8-12% of the region in 1900. Jews fought to free the region from the Ottoman/Turk in WW1. The Jewish Legion at one time had 5 battalions, Jews were at Gallipoli with the British in 1916 before the Hashemites joined the Christian Brits against their Muslim brothers the Turks. The Arabs were traitors who did not want to share, still don't.
What happened in Germany toward the end of the Second World War? Japan? Why should it be otherwise with Hamas! They have promised to repeat 0710 again and again.
How wonderful, an interview that allows this excellent woman to talk, express, explain, without interruption!! Thank you! This podcast is fast going to become a favourite😊
Natasha is literally a lawyer for Israel. Her opinion means nothing to me because its so horrendously bias. The HIGHEST COURT ON EARTH is investigating Israel, so these claims of Genocide arent just made up Hamas propoganda, and anyone who actually believes that is INSANE. And the fact she can say that the October attack was Genocidal, and yet she can stand there and CALMLY DECLARE that TENS OF THOUSANDS of palestinian civilians being killed is not a genocide or Genocidal, this woman is a fucking loon.
Er no... not really. Smart, maybe. Well-informed possibly but little sign of it here. She's a very well-trained and manipulative Israeli propaganda mouthpiece.
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CHAPTERS👇
00:00 Trailer
00:55 Intro
01:31 The modern blood libel
03:30 Genocide
08:05 Antisemitism in the media
10:08 UNRWA Brainwashing
12:45 Antisemitism in Palestinian culture
13:13 Palestinian kids’ TV show
16:16 Israeli security got lax about Hamas
17:50 You can pick up a salary for terror
19:46 Hamas’ use of human shields
22:31 SPONSOR: GDEFY Shoes
23:29 War crimes in Rafah?
26:20 Proportionality
29:34 Hamas killing Gazans and aid workers
31:48 Israel is losing the propaganda war
34:05 Israel is stuck between a rock and a hard place
39:27 Egypt is not complying with international law
43:48 Attacks by Iran and Lebanon
46:06 Is international law useless?
49:10 SPONSOR: Cozy Earth
50:16 Apartheid
55:51 Israel has no choice but to fight
1:00:08 America’s impact on the war
1:03:17 ‘The Two State Delusion’
1:06:31 What needs to be done to bring about peace
1:09:04 Occupation
1:13:35 What’s the one thing we’re not talking about?
@@triggerpod why should we ? Extra x minutes of propaganda from a beautiful woman ? You guys made me watch what we have been hearing for the past year , and you guys have not question her once … shame !!
@@AllexFerreira You mean the propaganda they teach Palestinian kids.
@@AllexFerreira 🤔no one made you watch anything!
Educated, well-spoken, intelligent. This is the kind of interview you love from the first minute! Thank you for that!
Could you let us know if you had complete freedom to ask and publish what you wanted?
Its crazy this is the first time Ive seen footage of these children shows. You'd think that would be all over the news.
dont be naive the mainstream media and western governments and agencies want to supress the truth as it challneges and undermines the view of palestinians as victims
you didn't say that for the friendship song I guess.
I’ve seen these shows a few times on documentary type shows. Better quality than the ones on this show.
all over the news? nah, news only shows how bad the jews are and how all the palestinians are angels sadly
The news outlets have long since proven themselves untrustworthy. They know those tapes exist. They've chosen not to broadcast them.
Those children indoctrination TV programs are one of the most chilling and horrifying things I have ever witnessed.
I think it's fair to say that the majority of people in the west aren't aware of this. If they were, I'd expect a bit of a shift in opinion...
If pro Palestinians see this, I bet they won’t change there opinion, they will justify it anyway since younger generation of people have been taught “if someone is considered oppressed, it justifies whatever action they take”, that’s the modern western liberal mindset!
They do the same in thing in North Korea with indoctrination in children against America
they are the same. two sides of the same coin.
@@zeljkoljiljak7256 Only one side of that coin wants peace though.
Do you know what they teach Israeli children in their schools? Sickening dehumanisation of the other.
There is a big reason why Egypt won't take in Palstinian refugees. Ask Lebanon, Jordan or Kuwait why.
Do we have to ask them because you don’t know? You don’t sound like you know, you sound like you have spotted a correlation and decided it’s causation. You’re a clown
Exactly! Thank you.
So big that you cannot write it here?
@@dusk2dawn2 he has no idea. He’s just repeated something he heard someone else say to give his racism some kind of credibility.
@@dusk2dawn2 I suggest you do what @discod992 and others including myself have done. The information is available online and in books, etc. I am very familiar with the Middle East. Too many Palestinians have caused problems for other Middle Eastern countries when they move to these places. Kuwait threw out 300K of the 350K Palestinians living there after Saddam Hussein foolishly invaded Kuwait in the Gulf War. Only Palestinians married to Kuwaitis were allowed to stay. The other Gulf State countries felt the same about Palestinians. Jordan had problems with terrorists living there. Egypt doesn't want them as Hamas is an outbranch of the Moslem Brotherhood which was formed in Egypt. It took decades for Egypt eliminate the Moslem Brotherhood. I hope this helps you look into this in more detail.
I was a teacher at an International Baccalaureate (IB) school in Dubai and I was warned not to teach anything about Jews and not to mention holocaust, I still did and then I was fired as I expected. The same was true for Kuwait , my coworker showed a map to kids with Israel on it and the head of the school held a meeting because of that and asked her why she did it and requested to remove pages from books if contained such maps, because there is no such country as Israel, that happened in 2022 and I am sure nothing has changed. I talked to IB about my experience and they replied that it's up to schools to decide how they implement their curriculum. 🙄
Would you mind to provide your opinion on, perhaps, the core problem: what makes ordinary Muslims to despise Jews?
@@talmudovsky they have been convinced that Jews aren't indigenous to the Middle East and they are European migrants who took homes from Palestinians by force. Besides, their religious leaders preach that Jews disrespect Islam, and this is what my coworker , a Muslim female teacher posted as her whatsapp story. I once mentioned the Diary of Anne Frank when teaching in Kuwait (I was there for 2 months before going to Dubai), of course no one knew about it, I said that it's a must read book and that Anne Frank l was Jewish and students looked at each other as if I said some prohibited word. And when I talked about holocaust at an IB school in Dubai (Dar Al Marefa is the name of the school) one of the students from one of the richest families of Dubai interrupted me and said that we don't have evidences that really happened and Jews probably did it themselves. My experience also shows that it's simply prohibited to talk the truth, so they are simply brainwashed because their politicians needs so. The UAE shouldn't have that interest and I was surprised when I was asked not to talk about holocaust even there, but there are other bit more complicated reasons why Muslims still demonize Jews even when they don't have rationale reasons for that: that reinforced their identification of being a Muslim, as someone opposite of a Jew , their self-identity is partly built on the negative image of a Jew (same is true for Turks and Armenians) and I believe their non-secular political regime, Islamic intolerance to everything that's foreign is intrinsically opposite of western values, and Israel brought it to the Middle East (as you may know Israel accepts LGBTQ people from Palestine who couldn't be themselves anyone else in the Middle East ) and that's something Muslims don't like as well. Many Muslims see Israel as a country created by the West to control the Middle East, unfortunately such postcolonial literature (such as Walter Mignolo) is too popular in the West and there are other reasons for that.
@@TakoGoksadze Thank you for your thoughtful response. You have mentioned many misconceptions that preoccupy the Umma, and I understand how problematic and even dangerous your teaching quest is. I would like to commend you for undertaking this effort. You have my admiration and gratitude.
@@talmudovsky thanks, probably not so dangerous for me since they didn't take me seriously :)) but just recently when I've commented on this topic some people entered my instagram profile and commented under my 3 year old niece's photos that she is a Zionist kid and I've not even told this to my family, because they already worry that I am working on this topic; I want to write my thesis about that. Middle Eastern experience was somewhat traumatic for me even though I'm not a Jew, I can imagine how difficult it is for Jews to tolerate so much accusations and I can see that even in Germany , where too many professors and students seemed to be familiar with only Palestinian side of the story that millions of Muslims talk about, while many Jews living in Germany lost their friends when the war started. It's disturbing how even international politics professors don't know that attacks on Israel are systematic or don't take it seriously.
And then they blame the jews for committing a genocide, those people don't know what genocide is or looks like!
WOW...This woman is one of the BEST guests this show has ever had. She finally was able to answer for me a lot of questions that I always have had about the Israel and Palestine situation. Just wow...Thank You for having her on and make sure you book her again.
ICJ in most recent advisory opinion, facts on the ground and international law in general really disagree with here fictitious facts and applications of international law but whatever.
That reminds me of those overenthusiastic Amazon reviews: "bought this for my husband and he LOVES it!!
I find it very difficult to take anyone seriously who insists that one side is wholly right and the other is wholly wrong. There is seemingly nothing that Israel could do that she would criticise.
@@offshoretomorrow3346 🤣
@@RS-zp6hb Agreed. Although in this conflict I'm having a hard time finding fault with their response to the Oct. 7 attack. A possible fault could be that they're being too careful and should rather raze the place to the ground (not literally) since most of the Gazan population is no different than Hamas. But that would be irresponsible (even if moral in the strict sense) since the world doesn't understand the hatred the Palestinians have been indoctrinated in.
Yassa Arafat PERSONALLY made 2 billion U$D our of the Oslo Accords - ripping off his "own People". His wife still lives in luxury in France...
Exactly this!
What's amazing is that anyone with eyes sees reality, but the imaginary Narrative always seems to win and why so many people, unrelated to the conflict are desperate to maintain their belief in the Narrative.
I didnt know that…thank you! I did know that the 3 heads of Hamass are all billionaires! Not multi millionaires or simple millionaires! Did they create Arab Google or something? No! Thats pity money from the West and the taxes I pay. Barf. If you can spin a story and get people to feel sorry for you, the bleeding heart will tolerate, forgive, ignore and apologize for ANY act of barbarism. It is truly the Achilles heel of the human mind. Marx stumbled upon that by accident and for that reason people are willing to give his lame ideas a try again. If you feel sorry for Hamass, you been played fool.
Where in Tel Aviv are you ? Which propaganda unit ?
@@backinthegame34 Don't even. It has been well known since the 90's that Arafat and senior PLO members stole aid money left and right. I was literally in university at that time studying international relations, and I was aware of this at the time. Stop it.
Golda Meir the one time Israeli Prime Minister once said, " There will be no peace until the Palistinians love their children more than they hate us ". How true !
Yeah, not racist at all. All those people we see crying over their dead children in Gaza are jusr acting. Theyre actually happy their children are dead. What disgusting thing To say.
Also, its strange how zionists are constantly implying that hatred and racism is completely foreign To Israeli jews hatred for arabs and palestinians is so not a thing in israel uh? They all love the arabs so much
You realize this applies to the Israeli settlers as well right?
Like all generalizations this is wrong and fuels the same tribalism she accuses the Palestinians of.
Golda Meir had a Palestinian passport mate. Your country is a f**** delusion.
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One of the best interviews I’ve seen. She was brilliant and I could have listened to her all day. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Creepiest cartoons ever
Shts worse than a horror movie and its real life
I was nearly crying. Those cartoons are stealing children's innocence.
Don't forget Farfor the Mouse... ( see videos by David Wood and Apostate Prophet).
I almost threw up watching
adult swim....
The UN are quiet on the rights of Palestinian children being subjected to indoctrination. Natasha is a great advocate.
@@KeithBrighouse-r3k Israeli children aren't being indoctrinated to hate and kill another group. Y'all are professional "I know you are but what am I" kids
@@KeithBrighouse-r3k Indeed. The narrative is all one-sided. If people actually LOOKED objectively at what is happening in Israel/Palestine they would think about the situation differently. Israe IS practicing Apartheid and according to the UN/ICJ what is happening in Gaza is by their definition a Genocide. Anyone who can't see this needs to take a long hard look at the reality of Israel/Palestine
@@KeithBrighouse-r3k Israeli education does not teach children to hate palestinians or arabs compared to gazan education taught to hate jews! Hatred for arabs is not systematic in Israel, besides there 2 million arab israeli citizens given same rights as jews, they can criticise there government if they want!
@@KeithBrighouse-r3k Hamas has what they teach children published online in great detail, its a very long read. I wont be silient on it and if someone has what Israel teaches children handy i wont be quiet about that neither. But i do believe that whats taught by Hamas will be completely ignored by anyone that does support hamas. I am disgusted with it, ive provided for my children at the expence of my own health to make sure they have a safe roof, food and everything else they need. Hamas and its followers are really an abomination and insult to good parenting. What Hamas teaches at school with parents full well knowing it too is a disgrace and thier is no valid excuse or reason to do this to a child.
They’re complicit! This is what they teach at UNRWA schools.
God some of those childen's shows brought tears to my eyes. What chance of peace if this is the next generation?
The next generation, this generation, every generation past, really.
This has been going on for centuries actually
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This indoctrination of kids is in every Muslim household all over the world. There are no Jews on the island of Mauritius yet the Muslims there have a pathological hatred of Jews!
Ah yes, typical person who is incapable of thinking for himself. You realize that these things happen in response to something right? The dominant force in that country isn't nearly as innocent as this lying hag wants you to believe.
I grew up in the Middle East and she’s spot on
Where exactly?
@@anapontopina86 To be fair he could be from anywhere in the Middle East it'll all be the same if you mention Israel.
@@dannyzero692 i suspect it is a bot, just wanted to interact with it a bit
@@anapontopina86 The Islamic hatred for Jews is in all Islamic countries, thanks to the prophet Mohammed......Do you know why? If not, don't reply.
If only the Shah got rid of Khomeini when he had the chance.
This interview was one of the most important you guys have ever made! Thank you! Natasha is fantastic at presenting facts!
I can give you some facts too, shutting off the water supply and food supply to 2.3 million people will cause them to die of dehydration, hunger and cholera. Maybe Natasha can convince you that this is also a blood libel?
At presenting propaganda.
@@ibntulun9405 literally, it has no legal basis because i said so, i wish when these people came on they pointed to what their sources are. If the ICC states Israel is comitting genocide and is illegally occupying Palestian territory, it is doing those things. So from my understanding shes another person who doesnt believe the ICC is a reputable institution and has no legal footing. Along with this, i wish they would point out Israeli propaganda as well, there is hate on both sides. Though what either of us say, people with slop this stuff up.
I'm waiting for ONE question that challenges her narrative. So far, this is not an interview, this is a party political broadcast
Natasha is brilliant at pulling the wool over the eyes of the silly goyim!
those kids tv shows are an absolute creepypasta
You really have seen nothing yet. Watch dor shahar story a palestinian from gaza.
@@OriMoscovitzI’m keen to see this. Do you have a link?
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@@notorioushsg1It's called 'Palestinian who became Jewish after escaping Gaza: "I could have been one of the killers" l Kan 11'
Edit: I've just realized my mistake- that video is actually about the life story of Yaron Avraham (they both have similar life stories because they both grew up in a Palestinian environment and decided to convert to Judaism).
The video about Dor Shahar's life story is called "Arab Palestinian Warns the World about Hamas | Real Talk"
I recommend watching both of the videos
Thank you for the guest! Rare to see international legal professional giving detailed analysis in the topic.
Cheers Israel Ministry of Strategic Affairs bot
@@chrisjackson9626 considering I’ve seen this same response to multiple comments, common sense lends itself to someone else being a bot.
@@ayeletn.5107 Jew Haters always accuse theJews wha they themselves are guilty of.
Alot of people here seem surprised by the tv shows. I thought everyone knew. They have been training their people like this for decades.
Oh course they have. Why do people largely remain so ignorant of the indoctrination of children?
Why are doing they that?
@@wali9378 To have more jihadists and for families they are proud to have a family member that is a jihadist.
it's new to western people since the woke is training their kids the first gen so they still don't recognise it as a problem. The former soviet block still knows the stuff two generations later and is avoiding anything similar to happen again. But third gen won't remember anything as well.
@@wali9378 to create more child soldiers
Note that all those clips from Arab television refer to "Jews," not to "Israelis." Anyone who claims that there is a distinction between "anti-Zionist" and "anti-Jewish" is a liar.
+ in many footages you can hear them saying 'Jews' in Arabic (Ehud), but the subtitles/English translation show it as 'Zionists.'
Number one, did it ever occur to you, that when they say "Jews", they actually only mean "Jews", rather than using it as a shorthand for "citizens of israel", as you seem to be implying they do??
Number two, why WOULD they make a distinction? The state Israel has Judaism as the state religion. "The Jews" are the ones making the decisions. Israel, very explicitely is a jewish state.
Number three, why do you think any criticism leveled against the politics pusured by the state of israel is immediately misconstrued as "Anti-semitism"?
@@Alexander_Kaleunfortunately he’s dumb
@@Alexander_Kale Are you fucking serious? These cartoons are encouraging children into killing jews and you dare to say it's not antisemitism?
Its important to note that those were islamic childrens programs. They do not distinguish as it is not in thier interest. Not everyone against the state of Israel right now is an islamic fundamentalist however. A zionist is somebody who believes that the jewish people have a God given right to the land of Israel. Somebody who is anti-jewish could hate thier race, religion, or both, simultaneously there is nothing in such a simple disdain that obligates it to the land of Israel. So the original comment is ignorant to the makers of the video and many of those who currently oppose Israels actions that are in line with the concept of manifest destiny which few people favor.
This interview highlights essentials points that have been completely lost in the general discourse in understanding what Israel is up against. The extremism and antisemitism in Palestinian society must be addressed. There are also many brave Palestinian activists who speak out against extremism whose voices do not get amplified enough by international media.
Both sides would benefit from more moderate leadership.
Israel is attacked on 7 fronts by thousands of missiles and you expect moderation?
Natasha was brilliant on the Munk Debates with Douglas Murray! She's a rising star as a social and political commentator ✨️ keep your eye on her, this woman is destined for big things! ❤
But she shouldn't support the settlements in the West Bank
Are you her agent?
@@randomhuman2595at this point it doesn't matter
They lost that debate all day long
@hughiemg2 nope. They won. Did you watch?
After watching tons of news and interviews about this never-ending conflict, I must raise my hat to this brilliant lawyer! Natasha, you simply nailed it 👏👏👏👏
Thank you for including the clips of the children's program. That chilled my blood. Truly horrifying. Meanwhile, do Israeli textbooks and children's programs have the same propaganda? Of course not. That says it all. How can you reason and come to peace with a entire group that has been radicalized since birth? Frightening.
@@ceeceebeebee889 you are part of the problem
@@danielbwestIndoctrination of hate based simply on the religion of people at the youth level is the problem. Who does that? I’ll tell you who does that… but what good would it do? You’re dug in.
@@dcarts5616 who does it? and provide proof.
They literally do 😂😂 UA-cam is full with video interviews of young Israeli believing Palestinians are cockroaches and they are the elected people who were given that land
@@dcarts5616 and you're soo convinced jews in Israel don't brainwash their children in the same way? How do you explain the zionist far right EVEN IN THE GOVERNMENT? Let's be honest here
Wow, This woman is brilliant. And she's right. Excellent interview 👏👏
It was less of an interview and more of a Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs monologue.
@@chrisjackson9626 exactly!! a white woman talking like a psychopath. so chill so innocent so beautiful and peaceful. talking about colonized poeple and children and demonizing them to justify the atrocities of israel against them. in this war for 10 months israel killed 15000 children and still many under the rubbles. in the west bank where there's no khamas they killed 150 child. many of the rest are orphans and displaced. “This war is a war on children. It is a war on their childhood and their future,” said UNRWA Commissioner-General Philippe Lazzarini.
Thank you for inviting Natasha! Very valuable voice of reason and facts in respect to the middle east conflict.
She is brilliant. We need her more in these public debates. She is very good at exposing the pro-Palestinian side of this conflict and showing that it isnt just a simple "Oppressor / Oppressed" narrative, like they all try to spin it as.
Normal Isreal Propaganda but it's just you the New to it.
First starting with saying all the life footages that comes out of thousands of people are controlled by Hamas really!!. The second make all Palestinian as devil's all what they want to kill. While she didn't say that more than 100k Palestinian workers were in Israel on 7/10. President of the sponsor country of the genocide himself said Israel indiscriminately target civilian. And for the death toll the Pentagon stated that their estimation is higher than the Gaza health. For the bombing warnings it is your lucky day if you get one. Because all the footages of whole families under the rubbles didn't get one. And she with straight face said Hamas targeted aids workers where Isreal itself admitted that.
What a shame such people have platforms to spread lies after lies and justifying slaughtering people.
This is the best explanation I've heard of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. She provided mostly facts with almost no emotional or subjective response. Thought provoking questions from Konstantin 👏
Natasha Hausdorff is a beautiful and brilliant young woman who presents facts and not fiction 👍🏼
This comment is definitely not AI or a Bot….not.
@@DDawg-qo2yd What, the truth hurts? The great thing is, facts don't care about our feelings.
@@DDawg-qo2yd
Hello from Manchester UK
We invented the computer so we inadvertently gave people like you the opportunity to share their thoughts and opinions on the internet 🤪
@@avacigar5502 You were among the people who invented the computer? How old are you?
@@felixmidas2020
Fellow Mancunian Alan Turing (now deceased) is widely credited with inventing and building the world’s first computer 👍🏼
He also broke the enigma code that helped win WW2 for the Allied forces 👍🏼
Unsurprisingly, because she is so knowledgeable and articulate, not a single mainstream media outlet will ever host her and afford Natasha a real platform.
do you think she can articulate to the victims why their lives don't matter?
@@BAD_CONSUMER The "victims" you don't actually care about other than that you have been conditioned to think that you care about all the poor brown people? Did you ever call people who died in other wars "victims"? Nah. You never even gave them a thought. Did anyone ever ask any other country who has been in a war (particularly a war started by someone else) to give an explanation to "victims" of those wars? Of course not. Part and parcel of the triple standard imposed upon Israel. I beg of you people to stop this nonsense of pretending to give a rat's ass about the people of Gaza, most of whom are ready to participate in the radical Islamic goal that pervades the middle east to destroy the West. The people of Gaza ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.
@@BAD_CONSUMER You are the one to whom victims don't matter.
Triggernometry is a real platform.
@@BAD_CONSUMER Look at me, refusing to learn history and pretending to care about people I never gave a thought to until doing so gave me license to publicly engage in Jew hatred.
For Natasha: for the love of humanity, please get on the BBC, so British people can know the truth!!
How often do we hear an Islamist making their case with such level composure, rationality, and decency?
Approximately never.
They do unless you are paid to not hear.
That’s because there is no rationality in Islam
@@AmirShaikh-qz9ptyeah sure thing Pedo worshipper…
Fail. All day every day.. You just dont speak Arabic
@@AmirShaikh-qz9pt ok kyddy fiddler
Normal and sane people do not teach their children to hate.
Maybe want to look at the gender indoctrination taking place I;the western world?
Yet these people are coddled by western media and politicians
Yep not seeing that in us univs at all…
@@djaeger-k5m Do you consider them sane or normal?
@@christophercharles3169 oh I most certainly do not good sir…
Problem is, no matter how many facts Natasha presents and connects into a coherent argument, the people who are the main problem will never be touched or affected by her presentation because facts are irrelevant to them and dishonesty for any self interested purpose is perfectly acceptable.
That's too pessimistic, I think.
Plus she does cherry pick a particular narrative that is so polished to support Israel it's uncanny. It's almost like the whole of Israel's PR machine has chosen the perfect innocent face to present the 'truth'.
Things she says have massive holes in them if you know more than surface. e.g. Why don't Israel allow reporters or observers into Gaza so the news can come out from someone other than Hamas? Because that would be more difficult to contradict.
@@largeformatlandscapeif by cherry picking you mean stating the facts and not some bs, yeah you are right.
@@largeformatlandscapeNo, because Hamas would not allow these embedded people to report whatever they want. No, the cherry picking is Hamas to the outside world. Moreover, the children programs should be sufficient documentation unless every fact is coined « chery picking »
@@SocratesOnline Have you heard of satellite phones? They wouldn' have a choice..
What a brilliant lady this woman is. I am filled with utter digust at the "international community" that has failed Israel since 1948, and at the UN that has blood on it's hands and in a way culpability for enabling the massacre of Israelis on the 7th of October 2023.
The line this woman is pushing is utter nonsense. The "Palestinians" are an enemy of the Jews. Expect them to be treated by the Jews as such.
But how do you explain Benjamin Netanyahu funding Hamas? Helping Saudi Arabia give money directly to Hamas? Even couple weeks prior to October 7th? The indiscriminate bombing that is killed thousands of women and children?
What about the thousands of Palestinians have died bombing areas where Israel hostages are… even the Israeli hostages fearing their death by Israeli targeted strike rather than a Hamas terrorist…
@@Grandmas_Favorite Is that grab bag of lying nonsense supposed to add up to something?
@@Grandmas_Favorite All lies you vapid fool.
@@Grandmas_Favorite If true, it would have been a naive divide at impera attempt, Hamas vs Fatah. Netanyahu is at least formally more responsible for keeping the guard down from attacks.
But the question is: how do you explain that all the West - my taxes as well! - supported and still supports UNRWA, which was the creator and maintainer of the situation which caused Hamas, Fatah, Pij and all the other jihadists groups and created the condition for the very concept of "Palestine" * to be invented in the 60s?
* In the newspeak word meaning
That cartoon is absolutely terrifying. Please - I hope people know this is what we are dealing with. Full on theocracy.
It solidifies the 'death cult' accusation immediately and effectively.
It’s absolutely a death cult. I feel for the poor kids who are raised in that Bs
This is from the 90s. Watch Abby Martin interview Israeli kids in 2016 and listen to the chilling shit they say
@@tayeelshaikh9228 do you have a link or at least the title or channel of the interview?
@@JeremyL1983 ua-cam.com/video/1e_dbsVQrk4/v-deo.htmlsi=kOW8B95TEobUlSCy.
Ffs! Those TV shows for childrens!
America had it's own version many years ago called Wondershowzen. It was a vile hate filled child programming show designed to make the viewers hate America and the West.
yeah you never heard the friendship song I guess.
Similar shows shown in Yemen too, blaming the Jews for everything. Reads like a chapter in Mein Kampf.
brainwashing children is not needed because they live under occupation what a foolish narrative. ua-cam.com/video/rXs1zkvHDGc/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
If you went on twitter you would be shocked at some of the stuff
Natasha Hausdorff is such an incredible voice of calm and reason we should all listen to.
Cheers Israel Ministry of Strategic Affairs bot
@@chrisjackson9626 3rd time.
@@chrisjackson9626 That term "bot" has been used a lot more than it has been defined, but the closest thing to the common perception is an account that copy/pastes the same comment in multiple threads. Like you do.
@@ayeletn.5107 congratulations you can count to three.
@@Violette2016 I'm surprised you know what a neuron is.
Incredibly intelligent and aware woman. Never heard of her before but I’ll look for more information now. Great interview
"Copies of Mein Kampf"
I have always said that the rhetoric Nazi Germany used to justify genocide and the rhetoric Islam uses to justify their hatred of Jews is identical. Hitler had a relationship with Islam, also.
Everyone forgets about the Free Arabian Legion
@darklelouchg8505 I have never even heard of it, so thank you for giving me something to research.
after Mein Kampf came out, middle east was the biggest buyer of it.
especialy Palestine.. who allied in 1941 to Germany, as the original PLO quote goes from Amin al Husseini, the creator of it "from the river to the sea, of jewish blood Palestine shall be free"
The Palestinians also name their clothing stores after Hitler. Look up "Hitler 2 clothing stores in Palestine"...the mannequins have knives in their hands.
@@johndawhale3197 and the Left supports them... while they claim that the Right is the problem.
I'm not familiar with Natasha Hausdorff nor her work before - but I'm immensely comfortable in saying we need to hear a LOT more from her on this issue, THIS is the type of panellist who should be on every Question Time and related media. Thanks hugely to Triggernometry for bringing her on for this, all I ask for from Natasha Hausdorff is more please!
This considered and concise perspective cuts through the hysteria, hype, propaganda and rape-politics that are turning London into a fascistic super-state and that's GOT to stop.
@@yyy-875 I do like that for a t-shirt "Tungsten fist in a silk glove".
I agree that appearing sparingly on such forums has its advantages professionally and functionally - that said she has an immensely important message to get out there and people *NEED* to see this especially in the ideologically fashion-driven chattering classes who simply shout things they think are currently "cool" to gain status or inclusion points with people they want to aspire to associate with (what Rob Henderson coined "luxury beliefs displays").
The presentation of a succinct and well formed argument to counter all the rhetoric is remarkably powerful in itself - especially for the casually involved to witness. They will hear the shouts, squeals and threats from the pro-terrorist rabble who use this cloud of hatred to cover themselves even from law enforcement involvement (who would barely hesitate to nab anyone doing same to their side yet they're free to wander London hunting Jews as we've seen in the past few months).
The likes of Douglas Murray or even Ben Shapiro do a fairly good job of putting the counterpoint but they're also seen as quite "embedded" with the Israeli side - Ms Nausdorff given her comparatively low profile and her tightly integrated response could form a rather good counter to much of this I think, also in a form short enough for "normies" (those not involved with either side) to ingest, process and probably adopt rather quickly.
I'm wondering if there are perhaps more opportunities to bring her and others like her into the fore - the chattering classes would be quite intellectually intimidated by such a response as they know they are merely shouting bumper sticker slogans for social media likes from people they don't know, after this they would quite clearly and unarguably look the fool. We genuinely need this especially in these ideologically captive areas in urban areas where expression of "luxury beliefs" (as Rob Henderson described it) trounces all including the welfare and survival of entire peoples.
You’ll hardly find Konstantin this quiet and he and Francis kept staring at Natasha with the “What the Hell” eyes… it’s been a while they had a guest who knew what she’s saying but most importantly how she articulate her thoughts orderly and very clear….
We all why he is quite...
The funny thing is nothing she's saying is new.
Like two nerds in a room with a pretty woman 😂
Natasha speaks so well and you asked her some great and difficult questions. Very well made and important video. Thank you for that! Hope more people will get to see it and listen to it!
A request from trigonometry, please bring Dor Shahar a Palestinian from gaza (originally named as Ayman Abu Suboh) to speak up about his experience as a gazan growing up in the environment in Gaza.
Dor is amazing, but he speaks no English, so they'll need an interpreter.
@@terrracotttahe doesn’t speak English.
There are also Mosab Hassan Yousef and Yasmine Mohammed, Gad Saad, Brigitte Gabriel, the latter two being from Lebanon. And countless Iranians who have escaped the Islamic Republic regime.
@@maltija1 well they would need more attention than Dor
If he has grown up in Gaza, he will have been indoctrinated/ brainwashed from a very young age to hate, kill Jews and die proudly as a martyr. Go back to the nursery rhymes 13 mins into the podcast. To really know what happens in Gaza, follow Mossab Yousef. He went to prison in Israel but has managed to get himself out of it now.
It seems to be a common thread these days where people use selected terms to serve their own purpose without reference to their actual meaning. Something "Phobic" now means you have a different point of view.
I like countering those accusations by explaining that phobias are usually irrational fears and *insert subject here is not
@chickenfist1554 sure, but the people that use those terms, don't care. It's not about being factual, it's about control and power.
@@icarusjumped2719Exactly.
Phobic usually means bigoted these days.
@@MrRailjunkie 'Phobos' was the mythological Greek god of fear, hence the word "Phobic".
Stunning woman.
Smart, rational, and beautiful.
We need more critical thinkers and less fanatics.
Now more than ever.
FINALLY, someone is challenging the reference to “refugee camps”. I’ve been to several on the West Banks and these are indeed most of all towns with apartment buildings. Yet densely populated, but not “a camp”.
Also people should ask themselves why there are over 2 million refugees inside of Palestine?, there were many jews living in the west bank before Jordan took over in 1948, there didn't remain jewish refugees, they rebuild their lives in other parts of Israel.
It's a money laundering scam. UNWRA/UN/ICJ(because they all fall under the same umbrella of the UN) declare that 'palestine' is a refugee camp' and that palestinians are 'refugees', that means that per UN policy they can get constant aid money from the tax payers of UN nations indefinitely, that they have been giving to Hamas and other terrorist organisations. It was just a few weeks ago i saw a video of a family trying to get food aid from an UNWRA facility in Gaza and Hamas were there, they shot the family, Hamas and UNWRA are one in the same, they work together, tbh i think there is no Hamas without UNWRA , and there is no UNWRA without Hamas.
@@BettybaminjerusalemI think they think if they leave they’ll never get it back and Israel will just keep on going
@@IskBrul My answer was deleated. They already are in Palestine what do yiu mean to leave?, nobody asked them to leave..., read the "war of return"...
Yup. A place with running water, electricity, stone-block and concrete buildings and shopping malls is a "town" or a "city", not a "refugee camp". The term is used to put a certain image into people's heads.
Her points regarding an Egyptian safe area pose uncomfortable truths for the UN, Egypt, HAMAS apologists, and the hysterically uninformed 'activists'
no, they really don't
@@Alexander_Kale Alexander, can you go into more detail why you feel this way? Thx.
@@sbaumgartner9848 Can you go into more detail why you think that her points DO pose uncomfortable truths and what those are? Because I see none. thnx.
The point that Egypt won't do anything to help Palestinians, when they have a legal responsibility todo so. And no one is saying anything about it but just complaining about Israel and touting they're Islamic or humanitarian brotherhood. Shows the hypocrisy
Edit: guessing that's his point
@@Alexander_Kaleyou mean except for the fact that by not doing that egypt is violating two treaties they have signed on?
Thank you for having on a giest who actually answers the questions, unlike the Hamas appologists who complain, interrupt, deflect, and flat out refuse to engage in adult conversation.
Almost every pro Israel person complains, interrupts, deflects, and refuses to engage
This is the most important video anyone can watch to explain the situation in Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank.
Thank you for bringing this brilliant woman on to your show!
Here is a rational, level-headed individual who knows what she’s talking about.
I beg to differ. This is a full zionist version of the Israel - terrorist conflict. Listen to her language before affirming her to be one of the good guys.
She reminds of the Sinn Fein tv interviews in the 70s and 80s...yes, I am that old.
Not interested in what the Irish have to say after the recent developments in their country. Zionism is simply Jews existing in their own land, that they have inhabited for thousands of years. Meanwhile the Irish are from all across Europe, Britain etc.
She's full of shit, and is a war propagandist. not much better than Hamas spokespeople she just knows how to sound convincing in English rhethoric.
@@pepegalegono, that’s you being an antisemite, that even rational thought is beyond you.
Very eloquent and informed discussion. She is outstandingly brilliant at how she articulates the problems involved.
It aint a discussion - it's a lecture. Compare how many times they interrupt or interject to any other interview they've done. It's like 5 times in the first 30 minutes, when so many actual substantive points of contention could be raised. Basically propaganda, not gonna lie. Crazy the direction these guys have gone over the last year
full if lies seems u living under a rock
@@dianalee1589 as if you are a local…
Stop lying upon the Jews and go and see the truth for yourself!
Because the media blinded the truth or info, that's why not enough info to ask or interrupt her.
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla they are incompetent and/or ignorantly hate Israel, leading to a bias towards the terrorist Arab factions and against the peaceful Jews.
And if you think I am wrong, go live here until you are accustomed to the local culture and language.
This is the best interview I’ve watched on the Israel situation. It’s full of facts, not opinion. Natasha provides intelligence, eloquence, clarity and truth, even when faced with challenging questions. Superb!! Thank you for this. Please send it to Piers Morgan, David Lammy and Keir Starmer, who clearly lack the knowledge which is desperately needed.
Think it needs to be watched by many lefties taking to the streets of London to March at pro Palestine marches many on these marches are just going along with it and when asked questions as to why they are there can't answer
Natasha Hausdorff is an asset to preserve.
Until she makes a PR gaff
Thank you so much for your interview with Natasha, she keeps defending and supporting Israel and the Jews in the UK which I am a part of. 🇮🇱🙏
How can you change this mind set when children are subject to those horrendous children’s tv shows?
Each generation is bred with so much hatred!!!
And how can you change the minds of Israeli's when they see Arabs as inferior?
Hundreds of thousands of Finns were forced to leave Karelen, and were welcomed by Finland. Millions of Germans were forced to leave there homes, and were welcomed by Germany. And on it goes. Why are not Arabs from Gaza welcomed by other Arabs. Is it intentional?
MFER there is a million in Central America a million in Jordan a million in Egypt
any muslim can come and live in gaza and they are on their way buddy
Ask the Jordanians why they don't want them. They tried to overthrow the Jordanian government after Jordan took in over a million refugees.
I guess UA-cam is allergic to truth since they censored my first comment. So specifically, Jordan doesn't want them because they tried to overthrow the Jordanian government after being given refuge there. That is a historical fact and if UA-cam censors that then they're covering up the truth.
I would tell you why, but UA-cam has deleted all my previous responses to you.
The children’s tv teaching violence and martyrdom is absolutely sick.
100% agree with everything said. I've tried to rationally discuss the same points with my friends who've been brainwashed by propaganda and have zero historical understanding. I came to realize it's virtually impossible to make people listen who are intellectual lazy and harbor antisemitic feelings.
I've experience the same thing. One person actually was asserting that one does not have to know about the history because his personal experience is all he needs to assess what is occurring. This person also is clueless about war ethics. I had to explain to him what just war theory is and the principle of double effect, both of which he never heard of. Yet he asserts the Israel is committing.... lines. He continued to proceed with assumptions that whatever Israel is doing is ethically illicit, they are given blanket permission to do whatever they like by allies such as the US. We all know that is nonsense. Israel itself restricts its own actions. In addition, it is held to higher standards and impossible standards by most in the international community. Of course he had no idea that 20% of Israelis are Arabs (the vast majority support the war) or that about 50% of Israelis are from the Middle East, being ethnically cleansed. He voices that Israel has the right to exist, but in the end he arrives at the same place as antisemites including his use of Zionism and Zionists as slurs.
Cheers Israel Ministry of Strategic Affairs bot
So you tried to rationalize genocide to your friends and they didnt listen?
Of course you agreed with everything she said, it's called confirmation bias.
@@chrisjackson9626 Confirmation bias is not assenting to sound arguments. Assenting to sound arguments and claims is being a rational and reasonable person. What reason requires when not agreeing with claims and arguments is demonstrating how they are incorrect. Go head, how is she wrong?
If one presents only sound arguments then, one is rational to agree with all of them and being irrational is not agreeing. In fact, what you are actually forwarding is indicative of confirmation bias. I suggest you look in a mirror.
I am biased. I've lived in Israel as a non citizen. Just a traveler who found the nation fascinating, and returned there many times over the late 80s and early 90s. I didn't come there as a Zionist, but subscribed to that philosophy soon after my first 6 month stay there. I lived among Arabs there as well as Jews. If any nation on Earth has reason to stay, and last, and prosper, it's Israel. I don't know how anyone exposed to Israel as i was can not acknowledge this simple fact.
Wish that were true, there are Messianic Christians in my city who travel and live in Israel who believe it to be a nation built by the anti-Christ. There are Messianic Jews in Israel who believe the same. It's messy.
@@nuqwestr They're cranks.
@@nuqwestrhorrible cosplayers. They sell their Jesus but refuse to be called Christians. They have been hugely unsuccessful B"H
@@nuqwestr There are those who believe that the British royal family are reptiles in skin suits and those that love them. it's messy. Who knows who to trust. Such a dilemma.
"I am shocked by the claim that the free, diverse, democratic state of Israel practices apartheid. This ridiculous accusation trivialises the word apartheid, minimising and belittling the racism and suffering endured by South Africans of color."
Rev. Dr. Kenneth Meshoe, Member of the South African Parliament.
Claiming that Israel is an apartheid state is, therefore, a grave injustice to those who actually lived under an apartheid regime.
Apartheid, collective punishment, famine, open air prison, occupation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide are the gaslighting propaganda buzzwords and phrases used to gain sympathy for Hamas and hate for Israel. All are false but the ignorant fall for it!
You guys just don't get it. You run around the definition of words when everybody is looking at your actions.
@@BAD_CONSUMER"you guys...your actions".
Who is "you/your" here?
@@BAD_CONSUMER neutral party here. Just wondering what your strategy would be in those circumstances.
Not confrontation, I'm not strategically minded and couldn't think of another way to defend these accusations, assuming their false.
And I'd assume if they are accepted as true, this will impede the Israelis by means of some global law.
@@DarkAngel2512 Jews.
So, the people in the west bank who have Israel controlling and policing their lives are classified as occupied.
There are different rules for what Israeli settlers vs Palestinians can do in the West bank, down to who can walk on what road and who can get on a bus. That's where I believe the apartheid accusations come from.
What gives Israel the right to treat them like that?
“Who are Palestinians? Palestinians don’t come from Palestine… Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis." - Hamas Minister Fathi Hammad, March 23, 2013
ua-cam.com/video/4UhVcAfMmuc/v-deo.html
Even better
The Arabs are of Yemenite origin. Not from the Levant, just like Islam isn't from the Levant. Or from Iran, Or from Afghanistan, or from Turkey.
@@bertnl530
What is a "Palestinian Arab"? It is a term made up by Yasser Arafat in 1965 to describe Syrians, Yemenis and Egyptians who were illegal alien trespassers in the British Mandate of Palestine which was a Jewish province. Yasser Arafat himself was Egyptian. There never was any Arab nation or kingdom of Palestine.
@@roynexus6 You're right. They present themselfes as the original population, but they are not. These Gazans share DNA with people from Cyprus.
@@roynexus6 Yes Arafat was born in Egypt but he was born to Palestinian parents, his father was from Gaza, and it's really not that hard to check. White people settled in places in America, canada, new zealand, australia etc, and are the majority in these countries, should they go back to europe where their ancestors were from then? I personally know Palestinians who can trace their ancestry even before the 1600s
@@seuntimilehin3381
No Arab called himself a Palestinian before Israel declared independence in 1948.
Modern "Palestinian" identity is a parasitic entity that can only exist in terms related to its hostility to Israeli Jews.
Thank you Natasha
This woman is so impressive. Clear discourse, amazing recall, sound arguments. So refreshing to listen to a rational actor on this conflict.
Cheers Israel Ministry of Strategic Affairs bot
@@chrisjackson9626 9th repetition of this slander.
she's very brilliant woman.... cheers to her!
@@digitalnomad9985 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You can understand why Egypt wont take refugees. Both Jordan and Lebanon did and regretted it. The christians of Lebanon REALLY regretted it
lol no they didn’t
What Christians of Lebanon?
@RussellNelson Lebanon was a majority Christian nation in the middle east once named as Paris of the east it had a good economy good schools and universities many from surrounding countries would go to live work and study .
@@billybobdog3815 I know. Then they were driven out or killed so the Muslims could have an Islamically pure society. Apparently Allah likes failure.
Wonderful woman, articulate and eloquent.
Yes
... and wrong.
@@ibntulun9405 facts don’t care about ur feelings.
@@ayeletn.5107 Wow, now that's original. 😂
@@ayeletn.5107 So here's a 'fact' she just drops in: 'Hamas uses human shields'. Over to you... any evidence for this?
Finally. I have been learning from Natasha for more than a year. She deserves to be heard by millions. I would submit that she is the Fifth Element of Jewish defense against antisemitism in all its incarnations.
Learning, that's what you call it?
@@chrisjackson9626 "Learn till your last breath" is Jewish motto. What is yours?
@@chrisjackson9626 On practical mode, since Oct.7 it has been continuous education from both sides. Especially, from the opposite. As they say, keep your friends close but enemies even closer.
@@talmudovsky as an autistic chap, I don't go for motto's they seem rather pointless, I just seek the truth. Sadly, it's not to be found on this podcast.
@@chrisjackson9626 Truth is ultimate purpose of learning. It is hard for me to even comprehend who in the world would think that stipulation to learn can be pointless. Ironically, it makes your 'seeking the truth' intention, without emphasizing learning, rather pointless.
It appears to me that you are just in search of validation for your own axioms and narratives. However, even from merely visiting this podcast, you have just learned that not everybody shares your beliefs.
This Woman takes the deconstruction of Preconceived Ideas about Israel to another Level.
A real super woman, eloquent, knowledgeable, forceful, and dare I say beautiful. The Palestinian "struggle" is in my opinion the longest and the most cynical and vile con in human history, and worst of all perpetuated by the UN and International money.
Blaming all the wrongdoing onto only one side without taking one's share of responsibility is a tell tell sign of either immaturity or propaganda or both...
There's no question that Islam in its texts and hamas in its interpretation of these horrific texts have to be stopped.
But one's also need to reckon that the Bible, from which Islamic text are derived, is also a source of horrific behavior.
When the Israeli prime minister refers to the amalekites in his official speech, he is referring to one of the many genocides ordered by god in the Hebrew texts.
The main underlying reason for this conflict is purely religious.
3 violent religions fighting each other in the name of an imaginary god of wrath nobody has ever met!
Christians support zionists in hope that will hasten judgment day - a moment of unimaginable violence, the apocalypse.
Zionists claim they have a 3000 year old property title in the form of a fairytale book full of genocidal stories.
Islamists follow a prophet who also committed genocidal acts and imitate him.
Religion in general, and these 3 in particular, are the bane of today's world. They should never leave the confine of people's homes. They should never be used to justify political actions.
Unfortunately, they are.... And that kills too many humans around the world.
Brilliantly put x
How date you say that!
… she is fit tho 😅
I could listen to Natasha all day. A beautiful voice and perfect diction and knows what she is talking about. What a woman.
Why can't the whole world all be this sensible? Natasha Hausdorrf is so factual and does not argue with emotions, just facts. She doesn't hate anybody, she wants peace.
Cheers Israel Ministry of Strategic Affairs bot
@@chrisjackson9626 Japanese Christian living in the UK. I'm 73 years old and wouldn't know how to create a bot if I wanted to, I'm simply making an observation about a woman with morals who I find very admirable. Clearly the reasons I like her are the same reasons you don't. I think your problem is with the truth, not Natasha Hausdorrf or me. Any factual arguments or just childish insults from you?
@@chrisjackson9626 Have I convinced you I'm human with my charisma and charm yet? Or would you like me to continue?
@@jimjames4348don't bother. It's an actual bot, he copy pasting this in all the comments.
@@AlyThree3 Ah thank you. Annoying thing.
Natasha is such a clever and well spoken woman! ❤
I wish she could appears on BBC to educate the British politicians and people!
What an amazing interview. I didn't know Natasha before but I was pleasantly surprised as she is someone who is using facts, logic and reason in her arguments instead of yelling and screaming full hatred nonsense.
We've waited for decades for foreign media to expose the true nature of our Arab neighbors.
I consider this talk as the best one you've had by far. Of course it could be much longer and cover more important stuff but it was still one of the most important videos on the issue on the internet.
God bless you and your viewers.
Watch Brigette Gabriel on Lebanon and is-lam and Dr Bill Warner on this subject too he shows the golden age of is-lam and every country they have invaded Afghanistan India Africa Turkey right up to Spain when the crusades pushed back
@@billybobdog3815 Thanks Billy
Thank you for posting this interview. I am desperately hoping for people to get educated, before they do worse things than they already have in the name of "freeing Palestine". They seem to be resistant to actual research, but I hope some of them see this.
What an excellent interview. Thank you guys, your guests are amazing. This lady is intelligent, knowledgeable, articulate and I am in awe of her ability to convey her points.
Holy sh*t she is informed on this topic! Love to hear this side of things.
she is a brilliant and well-informed woman. find it weird if you havent heard about her before, because she is a well-known international law lawyer that's been speaking up for israel for years
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Cheers. Generation idiot on the internet that can't tell a bot from a real person anymore. @@chrisjackson9626
@@chrisjackson9626 Me? or her?
@@KFRogers263 you tell me.
Why aren't those awful, creepy children TV shows seen on mainstream media? We don't see any video clips on The Times, The Guardian, The BBC, The Washington Post. The majority of people aren't aware such children TV shows even exist, which is one of the reason that many are very confused.
Surprised? You have seen nothing yet. Search for MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute). You will be... You will see the level of propaganda and indoctrination.
Because the mainstream media is complicit...
Only network in the west I've seen expose Palestinian tv shows is FOX News.
For more enlightening broadcasts translated into English, see the website of MEMRI, the Middle East Media Research Institute. These videos are freely available.
Natasha Hausdorff is marvellous and well informed.
What did 🇮🇱 do to Hind Rajab
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Spouting official Israeli narrative is not being "well informed"
@@chrisjackson9626 same comment found a second time on another comment, I see.
@@AppleMak2010what are your qualifications?
This is hands down the most thorough and accurate explanation of the complexity of the situation. I'll be sharing it nonstop from now on!
From one of the side of this conflict.
Her presentation is insanely smooth.
True, very smooth. And total drivel.
Natasha’s commentary here will be used as historical documentation for teaching, reporting and reference for many years.
Impressed with Natasha intelligence and knowledge. great speaker too. I don't take sides but found this very informative. Keep up the good work guys
Those children indoctrination videos are shocking. I'm Maltese and i could understand a few words here and there. Every time i understood a bit of what they were saying, it sent shivers down my spine because it confirms that the subtitles are correct!
The best explanation I have evver heard, not only on the legal issues but also on the history of the area. Her answer when asked whether Israel has a future was magnificent.
Natasha,you are such a brave woman ❤
What an absolutely lovely woman
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. Thank you Natasha for this succinct, detailed and very clear explanation of that long lasting conflict I have literally never heard before. Never.
The internal power Natasha holds its sooo empowering! She is so calm professional and intellectual
This woman is incredible
No child should have to watch those creepy tv programs.
From the footage u can tell it's an old thing and as Palestinian the first time to hear about. It is a Hamas tv channel
Your face looks deeply shocked Konstantin...
Finally the truth instead of emotional left wing indoctrination....
Its time people were educated, another excellent content from trigonometry, keep up the ground breaking work for society.
Natasha a very smart lady, very datable 😊
Sounds like you're the one who is brainwashed really. Even a simple search shows that this hag is full of crap.
"The jews began to immigrate massively to Palestine in the mid-19th century, but they have always been present in that territory. In Jerusalem, they formed the majority of the population from 1845. They worked hard to clean up the marshlands of malaria - bought at an exorbitant price from the Ottomans - and prepared for the rebirth of Israel.
Mass immigration of Arabs in the late 19th century was the result of economic development and modernization following Jewish immigration. Arab immigrants then came in search of livelihoods. With the migration of Jews to the Land of Israel between 1870 and 1947, the Arab population of the region increased by 270%.
Their effort to revitalize the land attracted an equally large immigration of arabs from neighboring regions, attracted by job opportunities and healthier living conditions, as well as medical care provided by the many doctors. There has never been any attempt to «get rid» of the few indigenous, nor to prevent the masses from seeking the prosperity brought by the j."
The UNWRA had then trapped the peoples in a status of hereditary assisted : food aid, free housing (first in tents then actual houses), teaching and free care, without providing any work in return. A fate that the fellahs toiling for the great families of notables and housed in huts of dried mud would never have dared to dream of before the "Naqba". So much so that of the 600,000 inhabitants of the territory devolved to the Jews, 175,000 remained there, and 700,000 registered at UNRWA... the difference being explained by the number of Lebanese, Jordanians, Syrians and Egyptians registered as refugees.
Many among the "infiltrators" returned under Israeli sovereignty (eg.: the poet Mahmoud Darwiche), the mass remaining attached to the refugee status transmissible from father to son (hence the staggering number of inbred marriages to maintain status in the family, with the subsequent health problems).
So no, no one "stole" their land: they sold it shamelessly (up to 8,000% profit for 10,000 hectares of malaria-infested marshes in Galilee sold by Elias Sursuq) to the Jewish National Fund. And even Kfar Etzion in the West Bank, who came in 1942, whose inhabitants taken prisoner by the Arab Legion were massacred by Palestinian civilians in 1948.
It was on the orders of the Arab High Committee, promising them a victorious return within 15 days, with the right of pogrom, that they fled the fighting. And found the refugee camps more comfortable than their former houses."
So why are they taking their homes and not giving them back?
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If 1/5 of the Israeli population today is arab, it's because some chose to come back. For those who haven't, i'll let an anonymous from elsewhere give an idea :
"[...] The Ottoman Land Registry of 1858 to 1871 showed that only 13% of the land was privately owned. The British Land Survey of 1945 showed that Palestinian farmers only owned 3.3% of the land. The wealthy absentee Arab land holders (living in Damascus, Cairo, Allepo, Beirut and other cities) owned 16.5% of the land. The Jews owned 8.6% of the land. And, 70% of the land was State Land, transferred from the Ottomans, to the British, and then to Israel. Israel was created by almost 80% of non-Arab owned lands.
Any lands that are in Israel proper that a family has a valid deed to, can still go to Israeli courts (since 1948) and be reimbursed for any lands claimed by the war. Any lands in Gaza or the "West Bank" are not under Israeli government as a sovereign of the land. Whether Jew or Arab, no claims can be made on these lands with Israel."
Jews are the Indigenous people of this land named Israel over 2000 years before fake Islam came to this world
@@DarkAngel2512That's exactly the thing - the fact is that there only a few single cases where Israel "took" homes from Arabs, and anyone that had any proof that he owned a land (or any realastate) where given it's property back, or if not possible given an equal compensation.
The truth is that the majority of the land bought fairly by jews before 48, and any land gained after the war wasn't just annaxed and claimed as a state property. Everything have been happened according to the Israeli law and court (during wars that Israel didn't start and always tried to dodge), wich are a lot more genres than the international law.
I'd say a "19th Century" "Massive" migration is an exaggeration, and excludes the emigration out of the Turkish Empire at that time. Jews were moving in both directions. Jews were the majority of East Jerusalem and about 8-12% of the region in 1900.
Jews fought to free the region from the Ottoman/Turk in WW1. The Jewish Legion at one time had 5 battalions, Jews were at Gallipoli with the British in 1916 before the Hashemites joined the Christian Brits against their Muslim brothers the Turks. The Arabs were traitors who did not want to share, still don't.
She’s constantly excellent and highly knowledgeable in everything I’ve seen her in. 👏🏻
What happened in Germany toward the end of the Second World War? Japan? Why should it be otherwise with Hamas! They have promised to repeat 0710 again and again.
How wonderful, an interview that allows this excellent woman to talk, express, explain, without interruption!! Thank you! This podcast is fast going to become a favourite😊
No one can get close to Natasha or Douglas Murray, no Palestinian advocate can handle the truth and logic.
Natasha is literally a lawyer for Israel.
Her opinion means nothing to me because its so horrendously bias.
The HIGHEST COURT ON EARTH is investigating Israel, so these claims of Genocide arent just made up Hamas propoganda, and anyone who actually believes that is INSANE.
And the fact she can say that the October attack was Genocidal, and yet she can stand there and CALMLY DECLARE that TENS OF THOUSANDS of palestinian civilians being killed is not a genocide or Genocidal, this woman is a fucking loon.
At last a proper conversation about the misuse of words and language by people who don’t even understand the words or language
We live in the postmodernist age, that is why. Words are redefined and there would be no eternal truth.
@BachateroSueco that's one of the many opinion based arguments but I wasn't posing a question, rather comment
Those children show clips are nightmare fuel. Reminiscent of the dark period of the holocaust. Should be more widespread in the public awareness
Damn she's freaking well informed and smart
Er no... not really. Smart, maybe. Well-informed possibly but little sign of it here. She's a very well-trained and manipulative Israeli propaganda mouthpiece.
Many of the kids who grew up watching these cartoons are now treating patients in the NHS as doctors. Shameful.