Is Criticism of Pope Francis Disloyalty to the Church?
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- Опубліковано 21 лют 2022
- Fr. Gerald Murray sits down with Dr. Scott Hahn to discuss current Church crises, especially those covered in Fr. Murray's new book, Calming the Storm, co-authored by Vatican journalist, Diane Montagna.
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It is a blessing to listen and watch two of our most favorite figures, Fr Murray a Canon lawyer who minces no words and reorders our attention to Christ and Scott Hahn who is such as an inspiring role model of piety and love for the Church and it’s Founder, Christ the King, and an unbelievably enlightened theologian. May the hand of Christ touch you both in blessings and grace
Saint Paul criticized Pope Peter to his face because he loved Christ and because he loved Peter.
This is true, however, St. Paul was an apostle, St. Paul was clergy, he was not laity.
The laity have no authority to publicly criticize the Pope, that is a job for the clergy and Magisterium, not parishioners.
@@marier.245 Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen said, "The Laity will save the Church."
@@thomasjorge4734 ... Shameful!!
Bishop Sheen's quote NEVER said to publicly criticize the Pope.
Bishop Sheen's quote NEVER said to establish media platforms to criticize the Pope, bishops and priests publicly for the world to see.
You and others like you shamefully take Bishop Sheen's quote out of context to try to justify your pride to think you know better than the Church.
It's well known that the meaning of Bishop Sheen's quote is for the laity to tell the bishops or priests to their face when the bishops or priests are not speaking in accordance with Church teaching....not for parishioners to try to tell the world by means of media platforms that the Pope is an anti-christ.
That is never what Bishop Sheen meant.
Here's Bishop Sheen's quote, no where does it say to criticize the Pope and it certainly does not say, for the laity to publicly criticize the clergy.
Bishop Sheen's quote:
"Who is going to save our Church? Not our bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to you, the people. You have the minds, the eyes, and the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops act like bishops, and your religious act like religious." - Fulton J. Sheen
@@marier.245 The laity is the church. We can criticize the Pope for his stances.
We must hold the pope and our bishops accountable.
Scripturally, the Pope is not above fraternal correction. Saint Paul rebuked our first Pope Peter because he was “clearly wrong.”
See Galatians 2:11-21
Right, Hart. Bet you can't wait to vote for Orange Jesus again.
@@michaelkraft218 You can’t personally insult nor distract your way out of what God’s Word teaches. In Fact, my vote is for the Kingdom that will have no end, and I urge you to reflect on the implications of the mission mandate of the Church and conversion to it (Daniel 2:44; Matthew 28:19,20; CCC 56, 1040-1047).
Hart, ponder this. What specifically has Pope Francis done "ex cathedra" that you disapprove of? Is Pope Benedict your Pope? How do you like the fact that the Traditional Latin Mass parishes were so anti-life in their disobedience to their Bishop's mandated Covid protocols?
@@michaelkraft218 Fair question. My comment contributes to and addresses the topic/question of this video, not criticizing any one particular Pope. When teaching RCIA, when examining a question of Faith and/or Doctrine, we look first to the divine pattern (God’s Word) on how God has dealt with His people in the past, and then how the Church Fathers have implemented the direction (Tradition). The issues of today are much bigger than any one nation’s petty politics.
For your information I attend both the NO and TLM because our Parish celebrates both. I deeply love the friends who attend each at Sacred Heart Palm Desert, Ca. They all have one thing in common, they are God’s people and bring unique gifts in their own way to our parish ministry. If you love God, you must also love his people.
Related to Covid, the regulations have greatly varied from state to state and even nation to nation. I’m not sure what the truth of the matter is. I am a assistant chaplain at Eisenhower Medical center, and I can tell you firsthand the effects of Covid on the elderly and those who have immune system deficiencies are troubling. I have witnessed some not observing protocols at NO and TLM.
Pardon my attitude. I have family that attends the TLM and I attend the NO. When these videos come up in my feed (Fr Spitzer is my favorite...he was with Scott Hahn...ergo this video arrived), I get rankled. They are all about promoting disunity. Glad you found Catholicism and there in Palm Desert. 🌴. Your picture is well done.
We’re all in it for the love of the Father. Thanks I agree we need think hard and love excessively and pray for the church and our Pope
Good response. You are not in agreement with the Catholics "who want Pope Francis dead."
WE are ALL the Church. We have enough that God left us in examples to follow HIM well. We need to remember to focus on that. And like any society we have discord. God bless those who keep the workings of Christ alive and well. God bless our Canon Lawyers who do so much more than we can imagine in administration and devote much much time passed their pay and time. ALL for the love of God.
Scott Gahn's diplomacy with truth is admirable. I'm glad I came across this video.
Well said. Another book i need to read! Amen!
Thanks!
Very good. Thank you!
More of this pls
I am praying for obedience
Maybe the Good Lord is allowing these controversies in order to move those who don’t know their faith to do research and learn the truth of the Catholic Church. I think the Pope should be off limits but mistakes in doctrines should be corrected. I also things that he’s said were said in innocence. I love him.
Exactly! Pope Francis has not made any mistakes in doctrine! These conservatives just whine at him, and insinuate his teachings are false, because he is righteously more progressive than JP II and Benedict. And he called out Trump as the false prophet he was.
Carmen, thank you! The Chair of Peter is "Off limits" for obedient, conscionable Catholics. How sick that Pope Francis himself had to call out EWTN critics as "doing the work of the devil."
That would be me. But some of the goings on have me completely puzzled.
You cannot be serious! “Done in innocence?” This man deliberately contradicts previous popes, oversteps the limits of his papal authority, preaches one thing, mercy, but condemns faithful Catholics, puts idols on St Peter’s altar, and the list goes on. Obviously, you have not been paying attention.
@@michaelkraft218 Why bring Trump into this? But now that you did, it was Trump who is the primary champion who ended Roe vs. Wade! ... arguably the biggest win for Christian America in most of our lifetimes.
YES!
Thank you for addressing this issue. It's something that has been troubling my conscience more and more during the current papacy.
Oh goodness, sorry the Chair of Peter has challenged your Catholic faith.
Sorry, I know this is off topic, but do you like Detective Conan?
Wrong question. How about his loyalty to Chris?!?!?!? That's the real question.
Respectfully Fr.
Only the Pope's cardinals can hold a council to intervene and admonish the Pope's actions in regards to Church teaching right? But I think laity needs to be informed of what Church teaches and how many clergy including the Pope are trying to undermine that. We need to be able to talk about real issues (respectfully) because we love Jesus and Holy Mother Church.
No man is above criticism. End of story.
You trust Dump over the Chair of Peter? Why didn't you criticize him? SICK.
Would you include Jesus in that? How about the Blessed Mother?
@@kdmdlo If they existed, then yes and yes.
@@JamesTAbernathy It's always interesting to me that it's the atheists that watch most of the religious content on UA-cam.
@@kdmdlo It's always interesting to me how it's the most faithful Catholics *who* (not *that*; we must mind our use of the English language) can't seem to grasp the hypocrisy of their religion, even when it is directly responsible for the suffering of so many: gays, children left vulnerable to perverse priests, etc. The world would be better off without religion.
I also know you're the same person who commented previously. Tsk, tsk, Michael. Having trouble finding a better use of your time, such as helping the poor and sick, like you Catholics claim to do so avidly?
I wanted to hear Fr. Murray speak a bit more.....
You wanted to hear more of an EWTN priest critic who "wants Pope Francis dead" and is "doing the work of the devil?" SICK
I appreciate the encouragement from both of you. However, we need substance. Yes, we will get through this, but how. This pope and his supporters seem to have a long game in mind. What in the world do they want? Don’t just say “the Pope confuses me” tell us clearly what and why.
The Torah people want to take over the world, take down Christianity, and put all of the Gentiles under the 7 Noahide Laws. We are in a long war. Not only that but I think they plan to destroy the USA and many countries after they are done using our militaries for their war.
Loyalty is to God, not the church or the pope.
R u even Catholic?! The Church was founded by Christ. Pope Francis is in succession of the Keys to the Kingdom!
That's not how it works. Leadership among men is to be followed as an expression of loyalty toward God. At birth you are entrusted to parents and you have to obey them, this same parents depend on a community and they have to follow the rule of the community. This structure is willed by God so you understand obedience. Loyalty to God is more broad than you think, and imply a loyal attitude in life. Of course when in conflict the other loyalties should yield to God, so the correct structure is nevertheless a hierarchy and not one of exclusivity.
Christ and His Church are one and the same thing. He is its head and we are its body. There's no discerning between the two.
@@kdmdlo God wills distinction, difference and discernment. This is what Jesus means when he says he is not here to bring peace but the sword. Unity with God involves coming to terms that we are ordered by God as distinct beings from him, so we can be loved by him.
Yes
It truly does become an exercise in supernatural homework.
It seems to me that it is the responsibility of bishops to teach their flock the Truth; parents to pass on the faith to their children; every Christian to promote the true gospel. This responsibility cannot be taken away by anyone, not even a pope. This means that we have the responsibility to contradict the pope in our teaching if he contradicts the Gospel. Please tell me if I am wrong.
You are 100% correct. I think and say the same thing.
Unjust criticism is disloyalty.
I believe that it is most important that the ordinary lay people be informed of our rights when it comes to criticising Pope, Cardinal or whoever. The clergy are well equipped with their tactics to suppressing Truth!
With all respect, in this video, Dr. Hahn talked more than Fr. Murray who is being interviewed.
Not to sound rude but, I wanted to hear the priest.
Not the first time I’ve seen Hahn do this. He so wants to be a priest, but he’s not. I guarantee Father Murray is much more intelligent and knowledgeable and definitely has more class.
@@catblue2857 ... 💯%
Scott Hahn is an egomaniac. The focus has always got to be on him.
@@kdmdlo ... Sadly, in this video clip, Scott Hahn appears to be counseling the priest.
Whenever I've seen Scott Hahn, it seems that most of the time he dominates the interviews or conversations.
Yes Yes Yes IN-DEED: "CARRY ON".
Since pope Francis has openly preached heresy its not disloyalty to criticize him.Its disloyalty not to.
what heresy? have you been listening to Taylor Marshall
I do get very annoyed with Taylor Marshall etc. They and the reactionary rad trads they have spawned are who I blame for my Tridentine Mass being restricted. I am mourning it. After years of vitriol, really how is the Pope to respond? The Tridentine Mass and Novus Ordo in my diocese have no tension between them. People move back and forth to experience both but settle into where they are comfortable. It is a personal choice here and not a judgement on the other. But as we know, the online world has humans being much more uncharitable with each other than they are when we meet each other straight in the eye. I think this could give the Pope the impression that there is more disunity in the church than there is. Online, some small voices can be loud. And thus they forced Pope Francis to play his hand.
@@hellopaule , excellent points. The vitriol and hatred thrown at the Pope from the Taylor Marshalls in the alt-right Conservative Catholic world FORCED THE POPE'S HAND.
@@albertaowusu1790 Or worse yet ... Michael Voris.
@@hellopauleI appreciate your observation. The devil polarizes the two groups and puts them at odds. Those who are labeled as conservative might insist on orthodox teaching and liturgy, but must be on guard against the leaven of the Pharisees, and resist the pretentious triumphalist attitudes that brought down the Tower of Babel. They must ask if they are motivated by love of neighbor or contempt for neighbor. All are known by their fruits, and should ask if the fruits of the Holy Spirit are present in their worship and relationships. The Holy Spirit is our answer and our hope.
No wonder why the Church in Germany and Ireland are shrinking.
Well it's doing very well in Africa and Asia, record growth , so what is your point if you claim it's srinking under his leadership 🤔
Imagine if we fought against Satan as much as we fight against each other. Something to think about. It seems these days that a lot of people are doing a fine job at exactly what the old devil wants people to do. Saint Michael, pray for us.
We must oppose those who do Satan's work by their teaching of heresy.
I think we are. Just a midnight thought
Criticism of Francis when he goes away from traditional Church teachings is important. It’s time for laity to stand up to uphold Catholic teachings.
You know more about Church teaching than the Pope?
@@michaelkraft218 Yes. Pretty low bar these days, in fact.
It is not disloyalty. Its because of our love for Holy Mother CHurch that forces us to criticize and call out his errors. It is done out of love not hatred.
Thank you for standing for the Truth
I do not believe Amoris Laetitia contradicts prior teaching. If you look at it, its confusing but not contradictory because it focuses on a pastoral approach to mitigating circumstances and an approach when an annulment is not feasible because there is a loss of evidence or uncooperative witnesses.
Right on! Thank you!
There are no mitigating circumstances for any commandments. They are clearly written. Do not commit adultery; not, Do not commit adultery unless you fall in love with someone other than your spouse. Do not kill; not, Do not kill unless it’s an unborn baby.
@@catblue2857 Sure there is. Addicts have less culpability because of the addiction. Addiction can be a mitigating circumstance. Also the Church wouldn't be able to absolve nor dissolve marriages without mitigating circumstances.
NO!
It's fine to critique a pope. A pope is a human being. Just the same, we must still consider him to be the legitimate pope lest we fail to believe that the Holy Spirit is guiding the church when electing him in a conclave. Even as we might find criticism of a pope, we would do well to listen to him and try to figure out how and why he is leading the church in the matter that he is. Much of what Jesus said was confusing and even scandalous to many even his own Apostles. We can take heart that the Holy Spirit is guiding the church even when things aren't all spelled out for us...
Controversy is a bad place……I’m a Roman Catholic……I’m not protesting
Maybe you don't know your Faith enough to question? Maybe you drank the Kool Aide of Modernism? It's east to do if you follow the crowd.
I found this clip to be empty of any real content
( NO CRITICISM OF FRANCES IS DISLOYALTY TO THE CHURCH!)
🙏🏻🕊🔥Beautiful! Thank you!🔥🕊🙏🏻
Jesus Himself was a victim of the death penalty. How is that even an issue?
Of course, He was and the Church has always taught it is justified. This pope cannot change it.
Having a pope is not the issue, having a supremacy is a big problem! God bless
I admire these two men so much. As a “returning” Catholic there is a lot of confusion for this lady. I think I know what’s going on, and I don’t have clue. I am disillusioned by the pope and a multitude of bishops. Never mind shepherds like James Martin. I will be getting this book. Always hungry to learn.
Let's see, Rita. You're confused because you spend all your time listening to alt-right, Pope Francis hating EWTN?
@@michaelkraft218 I’m confused about why our shepherds are allowing priest who talk slippery slopes, bishops who silence priests who teach doctrine, along with priests who do not believe in the Holy Eucharist tending to their flock and not teaching them about it to name a few key points. I’ll pray for you too, since you feel the need to pretend you know what I watch or don’t watch. You need help. God Bless.
@@ritablanchard8133 , you need to stop watching Dumpist media in the Church.
@@ritablanchard8133 , tis the lament of the Traditional Latin Mass crowd. Look at how you caved to Dump over Pope Francis. Shame
Ann Barnhardt is right.
What did she say?
@@_Breakdown
That Pope Benedict's resignation was invalid because he intended to bifurcate the papacy. In other words, he did not intend to resign all the powers and honors of the papal office, and therefor his resignation was invalid, and consequently Bergoglio can not be a valid pope..
No, it is not. It is each Catholic's duty to be a watchdog of the Faith.
They need to shut their mouths and preach the gospel. Given the sandals, the drop in attendance, the failure to evangelize. they are so predisposed that they no longer emulate Christ
The last three popes have condemned the death penalty, I don't know what Fr Gerald is talking about there. Pope Francis preaches the Gospels, this apparently scares a lot of pharisees who are looking for justification of their condemnation and hatred of others...
Christ be with you
I agree that they death penalty is wrong but bringing up the most recent Popes is not a way to convince people.
Since Vatican II the Church has been in decline.
However Pope Francis does sow confusion.
Why does Pope Francis not directly answer the Dubia?
Why can he not say women priests are not allowed, that priest must remain celibate?
Why does he not state clearly that the act of homosexuality is a sin?
why can he not say false religions are false and how can he say God wills there existence?
Why did be restrict the Latin mass, which is holy every time it is celebrated, but not reign in the excesses of the Novus Ordo?
Why does he promote people who have got checkered record into places of importance?
Why has he not reigned in the German Churches?
Why are political leaders who are in public sin not excommunicated as the bible says they should be?
these things are know by people who have been Catechized properly but he doesn't seem to able to say them
Accusing people who want answers of being Pharisees is ridiculous
Jesus problems with the Pharisee is that they were hypocrites not doing as they said.
Pope Francis is not preaching the gospel unless he brings people to Christ and out of the world but he seems to want to make the Church part of the world
God bless you
@@MrKev1664 Just to reply to a few things that you said. I believe Pope Francis has ruled that women cannot be priests and that same sex unions cannot be blessed. As for the false religions I think he may have clarified later that he meant God's permissive will, meaning God allows them to exist.
YES!!! You speak the truth!
@@zackbuzza583
Christ be with you
Women Priest was ruled out at the Amazon synod yet it was allowed to be tabled again at the German Synod.
This is confusion.
While the Pope made a passing statement to Bishop Athanasius Schneider he agrees that it should be passive will not active will, the contents of “A Document on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together,” signed by him, the document has not being changed to reflect this
“The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings,”
Notice how with things that God actively willed like there are two sexes are bundled things only passively willed.
It is confusion to leave the document like this
God bless you
The last three popes were not personally in favor of the death penalty, but they did not forbid it because they couldn’t go against God who taught the death penalty is justified in some cases. Personal feelings are not a reason to deny what God has taught. Do your homework. Father Murray was right. Your lack of knowledge caused your lack of understanding.
NO, it is not! I stand for traditional Catholicism. If I hear anything that contradicts traditional infallible teachings, i ignore it, no matter WHO is saying it.
criticism is allowed... But you see there are some people like Taylor M thats criticizing him creating some confusions about pope francis...
Taylor Marshall is NOT even a practicing Catholic and has excommunicated himself.
What advice would you give people to heal division? Interdict EWTN'S Arroyo for starters! They are NOT the voice of Catholicism!
Paul's concerns with Peter in Galatians 2:11-14 etc. were over Peter's personal behavior (as to avoiding association with Gentile Christians, and over what Peter was compelling the Gentile Christians to do). Paul's concerns were not over any formal teaching of Peter's.
Over 10 years earlier Peter had had his vision of the sheet of animals, from which Peter learned that the Gentiles also were called to salvation in Christ.
Some years later, but before Paul's confrontation with Peter, the council of Jerusalem decided, upon Peter's addressing the council, that Gentile Christians did not have to be burdened with circumcision etc.
So Peter clearly knew the dispensation for Gentile Christians, and at the time of Paul's confrontation with him Peter was not teaching anything contrary to this dispensation.
The problem Paul saw was Peter's behavior, in not adhering to that dispensation, out of Peter's fear of offending the Jews. The remedy for Peter's objectionable behavior was (in Paul's eyes) for Paul to rebuke Peter and exhort him to behave as he knew he should behave.
On the other hand, when there is a matter of heresy, that is of teaching something contrary to the received Gospel, Paul called for something quite different from merely a confrontation. Paul called for the heretic to be anathematized: “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel to you other than that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema!” (Galatians 1:8)
So Paul's confrontation with Peter is not an appropriate example for us to deal now with any false teaching on the part of Bergoglio. Heretics are to be treated with anathematization, not merely with confrontation.
Bergoglio has taught heresy regarding the death penalty and the inclusion of apostates in the Church.
I wish Dr Hahn would interview rather than opine.
That's because he is giving facts not feelings. He was a Protestant before conversion and knows the questions and. answers. Most of the Catholics 60 or under don't even question because of poor catecius. The church of what's happening now started full swing in the 70's. Poor formation in families schools religious education and following the crowd (what society says is right). Pick and choose cafeteria Catholics. Pray fast do penance and TRUST God your soul is at stake.
@@mariannemarek6683 Well, then Scott shouldn't bother interviewing anyone ... he should just pontificate from a podium, without the ruse of interviewing someone.
I don't know if we have to admire the Pope. We admire the Church Jesus gave us. We are in a battle and our leader is not leading us. Take what is in the vax as an example.
Thank you for studying your Faith.
That’s exactly where I am.
Look what happens when you depend on a Pope instead of the word of God, mixed messages.
Protestants who go by Scripture Alone have been sending contradicting messages for over 500 years. Thousands of mixed messages now. After 2000 years we still have One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, despite a number of bad leaders who don't represent it well. But they didn't change teachings to contradict previous ones.
pope francis sais God loves you the same whether you are the worst sinner or greatest saint and thats not true.
criticism of the Pope is fine as long as it is done in charity and love
not in hate and malice as many of these radical traditionalists do
To be fair, any other pope would have far worse things said about him by the leftist woke crowd. But you're right. There's frustration, but then there's outright malice, and that's not okay.
I agreed. In fact, we know that the pope has said and done things which make us disoriented; nevertheless we should prompt an atittude to evoid the propagation of those confusing things in order to coolaborate with the main deal of the church: the preaching of the gospel. Scandals will never being good for sake of our mission, but also we have to explain correctly the things of our faith when there is confusión 'cause the pope to those who that are weak in spirit.
I've seen no hate and malice.
@@djg585
I have, and lots of it
@@MZONE991
Examples?
I love Pope Francis!!
Yes, Fran, you are of sound mind and soul.
Why do you admire Pope Francis? For me there is enough in his actions that I cannot admire him. Not admiring him does not mean despising him. You loose credibility for saying you admire him and yet admit to his obvious serious shortcomings and actions.
U Catholic?
First of all Francis has opinions just like others. His opinions are not dogma. His feelings are not facts. Feelings are subjective and facts are objective. What I think or Francis thinks only matters when it follows God's given laws. As St. Maxillian Kolbe said to the Germans when given a choice. I must follow God's law first. FYI his father was German and he was offered German citizenship to work with the Germans. Instead he chose 2 crowns one red (martyrdom) and one white (purity).
@@mariannemarek6683 You are preaching to the choir here - I am German and a faithful traditional Catholic.
Pope Francis got the top job because he was known--not just seen--to have the qualities needed for this new millennium. I abandoned the Catholic Church sixty-two years ago in disgust. If Frank keeps up the good work, I'd consider a return. God knows we have to leave Fr Murray's medieval institution behind.
This is the real elephant in the room. The celibacy requirement.
The universal requirement to celibacy was imposed upon the Roman Catholic clergy with force in 1123. This was and is a man made requirement and the Lord God Almighty who made heaven and earth had nothing to do with it. Said requirement has wreaked havoc in the Roman Catholic Church and has ruined the lives of countless victims (mainly Roman Catholic teen age boys) over the course of the last 1000 plus years.
I honestly believe that the celibacy requirement will go down in history as one of the greatest man made disasters of all time.
In fact, in the New Testament, Ministers, Bishops, Priests, Pastors & etc, are required to be married. God's Word (the Bible) is crystal clear on this subject:
"An overseer (Bishop), then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach..."
1 Timothy 3:2
... and appoint elders in every city as I directed you,
namely, if any man is above reproach, the husband of one wife, having children who believe, not accused of dissipation or rebellion. For the overseer must be above reproach as God’s steward...
Titus 1:5-7
Isn't that something. If a Roman Catholic priest does what the Lord God Almighty commands, "be the husband of one wife", he is expelled from the priesthood. If he has sexual relations with a parishioner, male or female, he is transferred to my parish.
The situation is unsustainable and absurd.
Thank God for the Protestant Revolution.
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Celibacy has nothing to do with sexual perversion which is rampant throughout culture? What about the purple elephant in the room?
Everything Martin Luther requested has finally been fulfilled. It only took 400 years. Yes, the Protestant Revolution, the protestors couldn’t agree, so now there’s what 14,000 sub sects to what Martin Luther protested. None of which understand, or teach about, the Eucharist. Without the Eucharist, it’s just a building.
And … this answered nothing but … buy Fathers book. Come on man !
Are yoy the kind of people that wants everything handed out in a silver plate?
Dr. Hahn said that Father's book mentions disunity even in the Church and asked about the takeaway, so this was Father's response. Not sure the title is quite fitting, but it is the topic the vid touches on.
@@greatpretender83 Come on man !
Haven’t we all been waiting on Dr Hahn’s take on all this mess? I’m pretty sure there will be another video.
Disloyalty? It is a blatant attack against our beloved Pope Francis, faithful Bishops and Priests! You are causing division! Enough!!
You are surrounded by people that believe are better than Pope Francis (including you). It was great listening to you but you just cross the line. I am catholic, not a theologian but I do not need to know each verse or phrases on the bible. Jesus didn’t come to be with the “smartest” but to be with everyone no matter her/his Knowledge. He choses simple humble people to show us the way.
And your point is???
Pope Francis disloyalty stems from EWTN and Traditionals justifying their Republican interpretation of Catholic Social Teachings!
That's right!
What credentials do you hold to make such assumptions. Formal training educational background? It's pretty bad when you have Deacons who can't pronounce 6 th grade words and can't spell well enough to write anything. What kind of formation process is being used? In addition when the parish office contacts a priest on Monday @ 3:00 pm to annoint someone in ICU and the priest shows up @ 11:00 am on Thursday after they just died? What's happening. Is the Church a social club or a hospital for sinners? May the Divine Merciful Jesus help us all. Just maybe as St. Faustyna warned we are entering the time of justice?
Well, I don’t watch EWTN, but you’ve got me curious about its content now, and, what are Catholic Social Teachings? Nor am I a traditionalist. My last Latin Mass was before Vatican II evolved.
Sing it, brother. I am so sick to death of Raymond Arroyo - a transparent republican shill - being so sanctimonious, explaining why he's right and everyone else is wrong.
This priest brings a thoroughly New Yorker Republican American perspective to his view of the Pope who is from Latin America. It's cultural myopia. He's a regular on Raymond Arroyo's EWTN show; a guy who regularly appears on Laura Ingraham's show where they, together, insult people with laughter and glee. It's very sad. Another manifestation of Trumpian division. It's all the Pope's fault, Cardinal Cupich's fault, Biden's fault, AOC's fault, Liz Cheney's fault, Mitt Romney's fault. He's lost the plot.
Dana Rose, AMEN. You speak the truth!
Could Fr Murray be one of the "priests who wished Pope Francis dead?" 😫 Sick.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
New Yorker Republican view??? Boy is that a contradiction? I didn’t think New York had even one Republican. It takes intelligence to recognize it; since you don’t recognize Father Murray’s intelligence,….
Follow the money! Uber rich Republican donors want "a return on their investment, " including an undifferentiated, impossible support for a con and criminal former President based on a single issue.