What I Like More: Borderlands 3 vs Borderlands 2
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- Today I discuss the differences and preferences I have between Borderlands 3 and Borderlands 2 broken down into categories. Which do you prefer? what aspects of each do you prefer more than the other? Let it all be heard down in the comments!
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Each game is different borderlands 3 in my opinion is meant to be beaten 1 time possibly on each character. Borderlands 2 you beat it like 4 times on each character
Thats where I prefer BL3 but when I break them down like this and play them both it just makes me think that Gearbox really needs to take a little from both for BL4 and they'll be cooking
It's going to be stupid woke
I'd absolutely KILL for a borderlands 2 remake in 3's engine. The amazing story of 2 with the gunplay of 3 would be the perfect game
Yes! My personal add on to that would be fixing drops and some balancing. Spreading out the loot even more and keeping more builds relevant. Would love this
Get rid of the forced slag, have OP an option.
Let is level up faster.
If you beat the game once, allow to start a fresh second quest on level 30-50.
Borderlands 2 got really fun with the trees as you could double cap, but that took so long, and then you were forced to slag with Moxxi amd farm Harold's. Very tedious and inrewardingvto the semi-casual.
And make Rifles and shotguns like BL1...mashers!?!
@@bakerfresh Love everything you said except maybe that last part? Idk what you mean by make rifles and shotguns like BL1 mashers. Sounds like it would be overpowered but Idk in what fashion you intend for rifles to be like BL1 mashers.
@@yourstatistacs maybe forgot the comma. Miss GOOD masters. They lowered base damage so much the gimmick was worthless. Once in a blue moon you'd get a Jacob's Masher rifle that did anything. The legendaries were good, but...they were all OP.
Rifles were good in BL1, and they made them DooDoo in BL2. While great overall in BL3, reload time made you want to ditch Vladov, which were pretty cool.
Shotguns were good in BL1. Hit hard, and had sniper shotguns with S&S. Nice when electricity amd could pop Guardians in the sky.
I think the main reason I like BL2 over BL3 is because BL3 suffers from a lot of repetition and emptiness. Many characters in BL3’s main, side, and DLC missions feel empty and/or like copies of eachother. The characters don’t feel too unique and they don’t compliment eachother and that sentiment carries through out the entire game. The poor pacing in almost every mission leaves myself and friends feeling empty because we have nothing to remember missions with besides a red-text item. The emptiness on Sanctuary 3 is part of why there is the major death in BL3, there is literally no one else to help on the ship. Sanctuary feels so empty that I find myself never wanting to spend time there but doing any missionsleaves me annoyed because the characters don’t feel new. While I do think both games could be improved, I much prefer BL2 because I can connect to the characters even though the gameplay mechanics in BL3 are wonderful.
Not sure I get what you mean? You say you have trouble connecting with characters but most characters on Sanctuary 3 are characters from BL2 so I can't say I understand that. Pacing I can 100% agree with and I will say I like Sanctuary in BL2 better because it has Scooter and Zed but thats more of nostalgia than anything for me personally since they are BL1 characters. I enjoyed Ellie, Moxsy and Maurice on Sanctuary 3 personally, I thought they all have some good moments. I can't see BL3 feeling empty with characters like Traunt, private beans, the old man from the feeble and furious quest and plenty of other funny side quests. Probably one of the most heartfelt DLC is in BL3, that being DLC 4 when you go into Kriegs mind, lots of themes and messages written in there. I'd highly recommend giving the game another shot if you missed some of these things. But maybe I'm wrong and this just isn't your cup of tea and thats fine too
@@yourstatistacs A different way to phrase it would probably be that I feel a sense of community missing in Sanctuary 3. I am usually only there for my vault and when going to my vault I don’t hear Brick and Mordecai talking in the room next to me but I have an NPC screaming my ear off. And I don’t feel a sense of accomplishment portrayed in Sanctuary 3 either. In Sanctuary 2 we are floating and even though Roland isn’t there it feels alright because we still made it. In BL3 there is Lilith’s symbol on the moon which I barely see. Don’t get me wrong I love Traunt and Private Beans but I like the established communities in BL2 like The Slabs, The Raiders, The Hodunks, The Zaffords, Hyperon, and the sense of family formed in the story and side missions. In BL3 there are the COV, The Raiders, Atlas, and Maliwan (If I am forgetting any please correct me but I cannot remember any more). I love BL3’s DLCS a lot too but I try to exclude DLCS because some might not be able to afford the DLC immediately and I want people in that situation to see what they are initally paying for in the base game. I don’t find myself spending much time in Moxxi’s bar on Sanctuary 3 because I prefer to go to her DLC instead. I like the game a lot but I wish there was more of a connection between characters in the game. I think this due in part to the way they approached their story development because many issues I have with the main story bleed into the side missions. I do love BL3 but largely for the DLC’s and I love Borderlands as a whole but I feel like the way they handled the story ruins a lot of the experience. I did really enjoy your video though! I forgot to leave that in my earlier comment :3
@@sweetiefangs777 Thank you very much and I'm glad you enjoyed the video, that always means the world to me. I definitely understand what you mean WAY more now and honestly I agree. The way you said it, "...many issues I have with the main story bleed into the side missions" I think really resonates with me. The story, the pacing, the way they left a lot of classic characters (that are in the game) to the wayside and didn't use them as much, it does leave something to be desired with those characters. It was a complaint I had from the beginning, the lack of Mordecai, Brick, Tina and of course Zed and probably some others I can't think of. I'm glad you explained yourself cause now I totally get what you mean (I hope) and I appreciate you taking the time to be here and chat. Always love when I get to hear opinions and such so thank you very much!
@@yourstatistacs Of course! I am excited for BL4 though whenever it comes out :) And don’t forget there are 10 Golden Keys redeemable currently! It is so much fun opening crates :3 I hope to see more of your videos come up in my notifs :3
I think the 3 play throughs on BL2 and better pacing both work to create more connections to characters/missions.
For me, personally. The graphics and gunplay of BL3 are the best in the franchise. While the story and characters, including dlc, in BL2 are the best. But I believe Captain Truant should have had more screen time, he was my favorite character in BL3.
Agree 100% with this, I hope they can figure it out with BL4 because a game with BL3 gameplay and BL2 villain would be incredible
Watch out, Truant was the brother combo, Capt Truant was the little Siren Girl.
At first I loved Vaughn. Thought he was silly. Then came the calves and the later missions and I dreaded him, bro. I was like, is there a Tyrene podcast I could listen to?
@@bakerfresh lmao damn you really don't like Vaughn. I could definitely do with him being a little more how he was in Tales from the Borderlands. It would've been more interesting if they did with him what they did with Brick in BL2. You take out his bandit minion dudes and Vaughn could've been a more brainy, weakling type that still lead them but they just made him the joke of all jokes in the end and it really made him a lot less as a character. Also what do you mean Capt Truant was the "little Siren Girl"? lol Not sure I understand that.
@@yourstatistacs I still have to play Tales
Bold takes! I respect it. I don't agreee with you, but I won't tell you you're wrong.
I'm just glad that there ARE people who can enjoy 3 after an initial playthrough.
I appreciate you saying it nicely lmao but yes I am a big BL3 fan, I can really understand the Borderlands 2 better opinion but I definitely think that Gearbox has some things that they can take from each to really get the next one right. Curious (if you have the time) to hear your thoughts a little on what you think of BL2 endgame IF you have a lot of experience in it. Either way I appreciate the time you've given me so far, thank you so much!
@@yourstatistacs The endgame content was never really my thing. All in all, BL1 and 2 are just less visually cluttered. BL3 feels like it's trying to appeal to my ADHD, while also distracting me in every way. Even leveling up takes up the whole screen.
I like 3's classes, and the multiple skills per class REALLY makes it more replayable. But, I would have preferred another character, just for the new concepts that could be brought along as a whole, there's only so much you can do per class.
@@emrickazor2610 I could never say no to more playable characters, I remember the hype I had when they dropped Krieg and in presequel when they dropped Handsome Jack doppelganger. Absolutely can agree with BL3 visual pollution being bad lol they did seem to address that in wonderlands which is a good sign for the next Borderlands. I'll always love them all though BL1 through 3 (including presequel(especially presequel lol))
@@yourstatistacs Presequel gets so much unnecessary hate. It's a banger. Nisha is a fucking amazing class. Honestly, I think every class in TPS was good.
@@emrickazor2610 100% agree. My personal favorite was Aurelia, get some ice weapons and she is AMAZING
BL3 felt like there was less stuff there
BL2 had so much different shit to see
I think I just disagree but Idk what you mean by stuff? I'm pretty sure BL3 has more content than any Borderlands and the DLC were all pretty different with a western and a casino + lovecraftian and Kriegs mind. The settings and styles were pretty diverse in my opinion but I totally respect anyone that just likes the DLC more in BL2 but personally I just think all that stuff was given so much more thought in BL3.
@@yourstatistacs i mean more toward enemy variety and player engagement
BL2 had guns that all felt their own
BL3 guns were always the same
Maliwan has dumb charge up or Torgue guns always feeling not fun to shoot
BL3 just didnt scratch the itch
Also there were too many pace breakers
@@JanJansen985 Pace I agree with, guns I can't say I do but to each their own. Appreciate you sharing your side of things and I really love what going back through these games did for me. I feel like I'm more accepting of both sides of this BL3, BL2 coin. One thing I really want to do if my friends are willing is try and do some endgame, going through the OP levels and stuff. I haven't had a ton of experience with BL2 endgame, do you like doing endgame? If so any recommended character you enjoy for it?
@@yourstatistacs endgame is what you make it
I played a lot of games with me mates but BL3 burned us all out
Before i played i got hyped and got the expansion packs but none of us beat the main game
For BL2 just have fun, unless tou turn on hard mode
@@yourstatistacs BL3 Sliding, Mantling, Alt-Firing, Smoother Combat, Better Graphics, More Complex Skill Trees, Higher Visiblity of what loot is on the ground, Bigger Backpack and Shared Vault, Mayhem Mode. BL2 Better Story, Shorter Story for Replayabilty, Higher Difficulty, Difficult Bosses and Raid Bosses with Actual Mechanics instead of just being Health Sponges like Bl3. Zero and Gunzerker. Endgame is what counts Bl2 takes the cake
Didn't expect to watch borderlands content today, but this was super interesting! You've got me wanting to re-play through borderlands 3 now. I wasn't as put off by borderlands 3's story/dialogue as most people were, but story pacing is definitely what separates the two games, especially with most of borderlands 2's major story beats being through the echo or in skippable cutscenes. That being said, the pace at which borderlands 3 handles the progression from a power level standpoint is far better imo. I went through the first like 80% of borderlands 1 & 2 three times without ever even knowing legendries were a thing because most random encounters felt so inconsequential.
Feels like you and I are on the same page for the most part, I do truly love the gameplay and endgame of BL3 but I also want to go back and play the endgame of BL2 more to get more of a feel for it. I definitely recommend playing BL3 again if you are interested, I loved the DLC and endgame plus depending on when you last played there have been a lot of good updates!
BL3 is the winner for me as well for almost all the same reasons. My favorite side quest is actually the atlas guy “Gonner MeLeggies” and all the leg puns he keeps making while bleeding out from losing his legs. That’s the funniest side quest ever in my opinion. And Amara became my favorite ever playable character and I never thought that anybody would beat maya in my mind, but I like Amara more. Just an opinion. Also, please understand I still play both of these games and I love them both, but BL3 is just more fun for me to play.
Same dude, I overall prefer BL3 cause I like the loot. I love both though and if you put both in front of me, which one I choose depends on my mood. I'm honestly not sure who my favorite Vault Hunter is. It changes constantly because sometimes I like one characters gameplay loop more than others for some time and then it'll switch again. I know its boring but my answer is I love them all in BL3. My first ever though was FL4K and I instantly fell inlove, when the game first came out I thought he sounded so cool lol
@@yourstatistacs and the movement too, I play so much BL3 that sometimes I just end up randomly crouching in BL2 because I forget I can’t slide. And when I toggle sprint in BL2 the speed of a sprint is comparable to walking speeds in BL3. To me it’s sort of close but BL3 wins. And I agree with the character thing as well, Gaige for me was just not fun at all, and I’m pretty meh on Axton, but I also agree that all 4 in BL3 are fun. I think it’s just a popular opinion to hate on BL3 honestly, and I don’t.
BTW the thumbnail was swapped
Swapped?? you mean BL3 being on BL2 and vice versa? If so I did that on purpose lol
You Have so much balls making this video but I respect your viewpoint
I love this lol I won't lie I've been pleasantly surprised and am very grateful for the respectful amount of feedback I'm getting from all sides of the Borderlands community on how they feel in this very controversial topic. I love that we can disagree and respect each others opinions, not too many places on the internet like that and I'm glad this can be that place. Thank you very much for your time and here's hoping more of us can agree on Borderlands 4 being the best when that comes out 🤞🙏
@@yourstatistacs yeah I honestly don’t hate bl3 either it’s still a grate game I just know a lot of people hate it. let’s hope they learn from both games in bl4 good and bad. The dialogue skip you were talking about in the video seems really cool and I haven’t play all of bl3 dlc so maybe I need to load it back up.
The dialogue skip isn't perfect but its still better than sitting through it all if you've already heard it. DLC in my opinion is definitely worth it. I really love all the DLC
@@yourstatistacs I have bl3 downloading now ima check out any other mods they have
@@zebraguy4993 Hopefully you can find some that make the experience cater more to your liking
Bl2 has a much more entertaining experience but bl3 has way more build variety you get that super hero feeling more so and it's much faster pace but the story and chars just don't impress
Also bl3 crashes crazy often to this day
Interesting. What do you play on? cause I dont really experience crashing in BL3 but I have heard about crashing issues before
Bl2 for loot story dlc and bl3 for everything else
Respect it, I love BL3 DLC a little more I think personally but I bet if you put me on BL2 playing the torgue DLC or something you could get me to change my mind in the moment lol
BL2 is home. End of story.
Stay cozy at home man. My comfort food is some Presequel
Borderlands 1 HAS THE BEST tone and story absolutely love og beat and switch ending is great!! PS General Knoxx is a better then villain then Jack PSs bl3 dose have better gameplay but way to mush power-creep gear. there no reason to use the hellshock because the beacon is stronger but there no reason to use because the free radical stronger. bl2 and bl3 say they have 100.000 guns but in reality 98% of play will only use 25 guns over and over if not a uniquids or legendries no one use's them!!! god miss the double Anarchy SMG!!!
I think in bl3 the balancing what good the legendary drops were to common but not as bad as people say where there like every kill is a legendary but in opinion bl2 was to rare so if they split it right in the middle between bl2 and 3 that would be cool i like the end game in bl3 more the takedowns are fun well maybe not the guardian one i think if they did bl2 with the dlcs that would be great then add more slaughter shafts and takedowns raid bosses at launch same with dedicated drops bl2 would be amazing also no op levels about 10 max overall i think bl3 is funner
I like, personally, having the blues and purples be really good. I like trying out guns from the engine.
So I h87e the stupid nerfs to guns that were fun.
It seems BL3 made the Legendaries cool perk just end up being that it was like 3-7 times Overleveled. They were better than a regular purple so you'd use it, even if you didn't like it.
Thats usually my gripe.
In BL3 Vladov's had usually too small magazines with crazy load times. Dahl was stronger, reloaded faster and wasn't too much less in the fire rate department. Many of the high FR Vladovs had to spin up.
borderlands 2 is always just going to be so great. I think borderlands 3 innovated on some things in a very positive way, I think it also innovated on some things in a negative way. Definitely worth playing 3 a few times and I was pleasantly surprised when i replayed it a few months ago. I think the story in borderlands 3 kinda gets me. Some characters are great, the plot is good, but man, some of the characters are so insufferable lol. Also, nice video man, keep grinding
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your time and hearing from you
BL2 over BL3, period.
Slay, gurl💅
Respect it but I can't agree. I think if Gearbox looks at both BL3 and BL2 and understands the likes and dislikes from each they will be in a good mindset for making BL4
Bl3 with bl2 story and chars would slap hard in the best way
Opinion ≠ Fact
dont worry friend you wont have to come to sanctuary to talk to Lilith, you ll have to return to sanctuary to talk to Ava wich is in my humble opinion huge upgrade lmao
I'm a rare specimen and honestly am indifferent to Ava. However I am of the opinion that they never should've scrapped that cut scene (iykyk) it would've avoided all the Ava hate and maybe made people enjoy a part of the story cause it brings more than one tone of emotion.
@@yourstatistacsAva is a Raid Boss.
Siren raid boss? Could be a cool fight. Just don't make it anything like fighting Lilith
BLTPS music playing in the background? Based.
BLTPS is my second favorite Borderlands. The playable caharcters, other characters, story and side quests are chefs kiss. And the one DLC that it got is top 2, top 3 in the franchise. Game would be the best Borderlands easily in my book if it got that endgame/post launch treatment like 2 and 3 got. BLTPS playthroughs are like comfort food for me. Glad you mentioned this, made me so happy. Hope you enjoyed my extended thoughts on why Pre-sequel is goated lol
@@yourstatistacs the reason why I even enjoyed the video is because this game means a lot to you, as it means a lot to me as well. And I agree, if bltps got as much love as bl3 or even 2 got it would’ve competed with those games as being the best game in the franchise. I loved this video through and through and respect your opinions and really appreciate your passion. Bltps was my first borderlands game and at first felt a little weird to me, but soon after I poured about 160 or so hours into perfecting my nisha build. I love that game, builds were so fun and glitch rarity weapons were such a fresh take on the already straight forward rarity system.
@@itschoke OMG the glitch rarity is still to this day my favorite rarity and I want it back so bad! Such a fun way to spice up the loot, visually and mechanically. ugh... bro I could talk about Pre-sequel all day lmao I think I actually have a video called something like "looking back on the pre-sequel" if you're interested. I appreciate the amount of time and kindness you've already given so I super appreciate you but if you love Pre-sequel and wanna hear more of my thoughts then that is available. If there's one thing I want Gearbox to do while making BL4 its hire some of the dudes involved in writing the Pre-sequel. The characters and dialogue in that game are absolute chefs kiss
@@yourstatistacs I agree. I think part of the reason why people haven’t forgotten/still love that game IS because of glitch rarity. It was a new rarity that was so sought after because it came with bonuses depending on the numbers you’d get next to the little letters on the weapon card. And the DLC story itself was the best borderlands DLC in general hands down. Imo it’s up there with Tiny Tina’s assault on dragons keep. I love hearing why people are so passionate about things so that I can agree with them lmfao but I’ll hang around, I’ll check out your videos, no problem. You’re a pretty cool guy, I’m more than willing to!
@@itschoke Thanks man I really appreciate the kind words
I think bl3 has the smoothest gameplay and coolest guns but the campaign is such a drag i will never again run through it, enemies and storyline and action goes to bl2 forsure
I 100% respect that, I did run through Borderlands 3 a ton before modding to skip dialogue BUT after playing BL2, I feel like to play BL3 I need the dialogue skip mod. I know when it comes to preferences for Borderlands I tend to be in the minority but I love what I love and I hope Gearbox can knock it out of the park for Borderlands 4 (fingers crossed)
Borderlands 3 is so over hated
I agree but at the same time I get where a lot of frustration can come from. I think the villain and pacing played a huge factor and hopefully Gearbox can see that for the development of BL4
The only thing I love about BL2 is the base game story, everything else is insufferable for me. I play on console so all the quality of life mods are irrelevant.
Surprised to see the amount of BL3 support/understanding in here lol hearing someone call BL2 insufferable was not something I expected to hear when I made this video but I respect it. The old game lack of QoLs and mechanics can be hard for some to go back to, personally doesn't bug me but the harsh drop rates in BL2 really do bother me. I feel somewhere down the middle of BL3 and BL2 drops would be great in my opinion.
@@yourstatistacs the QOL mechanics, the outdated graphics, the guns that feel like toy guns that a kid is playing with going “bang bang” (I’m talking about how they feel when fired, not the design), the zero character play style diversity, UVHM(!!!) - that one’s a big “fk you Gearbox” sort of thing.
I do think there is more diversity in BL3 but I tend to stay away from those covos personally cause I don't have much endgame experience but I have heard people say that BL2 doesn't have as much diversity and requires a lot of same equipment to get through OP levels and stuff
@@yourstatistacs when going through the OP levels people usually stick to only one meta build per character as that is sorta mandatory if you want to reach OP10.
Having only 1 OP10 capable build per character is depressing.
It’s not like other non-meta builds can perform on a slightly lower level than THE meta build, they are just flat out useless.
BL3 on the other hand lets you do whatever you want and still succeed to some degree and have fun playing the way you enjoy the most.
Let’s look at Amara as an example, her strongest build is obviously melee, but you don’t have to use it, you can play Gunmara and still have fun and clear all the content, even if it isn’t the strongest Amara build.
Same can be said about the other 3 vault hunters as well.
I swear people say its blasphemy for thinking BL3 over BL2. BL3 is so good
100% agree. I love BL3 and have no shame in that but I can respect the complaints and such, I have plenty of complaints myself and I think I'm one of the biggest BL3 fans out there. It just means I have passion for the franchise and want to see it succeed, that being said I really hope Gearbox can make good on the story/villain and pacing in BL4 🙏
People are eg
People are... epic gamers?
Neither. Warframe. Great content, nails the power fantasy, you can play from beginning to end without spending a single dime you can even get platinum without spending a dime and the grind is a lot more fun.
And before people try to “gotcha”me I played all the borderlands games I had my fun with them and I’ve seen all I need to see but if I want a loot based game it’s warframe no contest
If that's what you enjoy then that's great. Thanks for taking the time to be here and I hope Warframe keeps up with whatever it is you enjoy so much about it. Never played so I'll have to take your word for it
@@yourstatistacs oh man it’s great once you get to second dream it gets even better if god speaks to you and tells you to play it you’ll have no regrets. The only bad thing about it is the new player experience it’s very overwhelming but so worth it once you get past it. Definitely worth a look
No one cares what you like more
No one asked
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