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Chargers should go back to San Diego
They honestly should have never left.
I agree. Chargers need to be in San Diego.
Clippers as well
San Diego deserves them way more than L.A.
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LA is so weird. That huge market has such a hard time supporting the NFL. Chargers need to go bacl to San Diego. Arizona should have been called out instead of Cincy.
LA is to big
@@mrsvoyagethe Lakers and Dodgers don’t have any problems but the NFL teams do
@@brown22sugar25It’s also helps that the Lakers and Dodgers have for the past 30 years most of the time been championship contenders. Plus no NFL team for over 25 years as well. If anything LA should only have 1 NFL team.
FYI while never on the level of the Lakers and Dodgers, the NHL Kings sells out almost all of their games for over 10 years (not counting the Covid seasons) Helped that the Kings also won 2 Stanley Cups in 3 years as well in the past 15 years as well.
@@brown22sugar25the rams don’t have a problem selling out their stadium
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 the 49ers fans are the ones selling out SoFi
Chargers should have stayed in SD. My buddy from SD threw out his Charger gear when they moved to LA
I did the same. I could not care less about that team anymore.
The Chargers fanbase lives 2 hours south of LA.
EXACTLY!
Chargers belong in San Diego not LA
As a rams fan I agree. Watching home games on tv is pathetic when it’s mostly away teams with better fan support. Should have stayed in st.louis
Then let the chargers have the city? The rams won a Super Bowl there. What other nfl team should be in la?
I think Cincinnati has more loyal fans than Phoenix & Atlanta. Falcons home games are always empty, and like Los Angeles & Las Vegas, dominated by away fans.
I don't speak for any Bengal fans, but my issue for the last 30-some years has been the perception that Mike Brown would prefer not to win.
I’m a falcons fan and I agree. I’ve only been to one game in 2012 when I was 16, because we got free tickets. We couldn’t afford to go. And now I don’t live there, but I’m definitely trying to get to the new stadium as soon as I can. I get so frustrated seeing the empty seats because I’d be there if I could
It’s sad because the Raiders actually have a huge fanbase and it would have been better if they moved to LA instead of the Chargers
I agree. I was heartbroken when I found out the Raiders were not moving back to LA.
In a perfect world, the Rams and Raiders would share SoFi and the Chargers would play in a shiny new stadium in San Diego.
@@BrandonJXN2 In my perfect world, the Raiders would play in the beautiful, open-air LA Coliseum! 🙂
I bet even if the Raiders even moved to San Diego somehow, they'd have huge crowds. All of the Raiders fans in SoCal would go to the games, as well as the ones in the entire region would travel. They already did when the Raiders would play the Chargers in San Diego.
LA doesn't need or want two teams
I'm watching the Lions v Chargers game, SoFi Stadium is easily 60% Detroit fans.
At least.
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I’m actually from Tampa and moved there from Richmond in 2018 (I was a broncos fan).
It felt like there was no support for the Bucs at all (unless you go to the stadium) until Tom Brady came and won the Super Bowl. Many people (including myself) became Bucs fans and stuck with them even today (good for me since the broncos are crap).
The reason is, due to high migration alot of people have previous teams, and for a while the bucs were awful so there was no real reason to consider switching. this combined with the lightning becoming one of the best franchises in the NHL and the rays being solid every year made it even harder for the buccaneers to get fandom.
However now there is alot more fans just due to the impact of the superbowl. its made a huge difference.
I'm a Tampa transplant as well and you are correct, there are a lot more fans of other teams who end up here. I think it's more of a hockey town. The Lightning franchise has done a much better job reaching out to the community. The owner, as well Steve Yzerman, the GM, insisted players create a public profile. It didn't hurt that Stevie built a cup winning roster. I thought the Rays were going to beat feet but they have committed to St. Pete, agreeing to build a new stadium in the same crappy location as the other one. They have a very good management team and have put together a fairly consistent winner on a shoestring budget, but they were 27th in attendance last season. But there is close to zero presence from the Bucs or the Rays in the public, or maybe I'm just missing it.
@@itinerantpatriot1196 I definitely see Tampa being a hockey town, the lightning have been good for a while and definitely helped most of us become bolts fans (go bolts!). I don’t see as much rays support in Tampa, sucks they are trapped in St Peat.
Having two teams in what’s an already weak football market like LA is just so bizarre, for the love of God put the Chargers back in San Diego where they belong
To be fair even in San Diego the Chargers still got overrun by visitors often.
How is it a weak football market? It’s the second largest market in the country.
The worst are all the sun belt cities except for New Orleans and Dallas. And even Dallas sometimes gets overrun by visitors (I remember a Niners vs. Cowboys game there that was a sea of red)
Thats because so many people have moved to Texas over the years from elsewhere.
UK probably has more Jaguar fans than FL does
As a Browns fan here in Southern California (Ohio Native), Cincinnati covers Kentucky & Southern Indiana, so they do have a good base of fans along with rest of Southern Ohio & Columbus. It's been brutal for Bengals fans 25+ years due to Mike Brown being cheap on players until his daughter finally took over the team & implemented this theory of spending money & picking good draft picks will build a good fan base again. So far so good.
Jacksonville has sucked until Trevor Lawrence came to the city. If they continue to build around him, in a few years they can be contenders.
Las Vegas should've told Raider's ownership to change the name after they arrived, I don't understand why the cities want has-been teams from other cities & states; create a new team name & color's that is conducive to the area. There's probably underlying concerns with the locals of the team will leave & go back to Oakland since they did it to the L.A. fans in 1995; who wants sloppy seconds.
Chargers need to go back to San Diego. PERIOD! they don't belong in L.A. They knew this in 1960 when they realized L.A. was an ONE team city. One reason they Moved to San Diego for the '61 season. When they were in San Diego, I did support them since they were part of Southern California especially Super Bowl XXIX. I hope they continue to suck as much as they can while in L.A. There was a great fan base while going to a couple of games when hosting the Browns. Best thing would be Dean Spanos to sell the team to a group of San Diego investors & bring the team back to the city. Spanos is an utter putz to make the citizens of San Diego to pay for a new stadium for HIS football team, voters said no and left, cheap ass.
Arizona should've been on this list. Again, another has-been team from another city with a bird & colors which has nothing to do with Arizona. Arizona needs a team name with colors with their own identity.
Too bad the NFL didn't have a policy starting with the 1971 season if a team owner moves a team to another city, a new name & colors would be created for the fans & keep the heritage in the city forever.
Ideas for new names.
Indianaoplis Mastodons? Quakers? Thunderbolts?
Las Vegas Miners? Plata's? Atom's?
Arizona Canyon's? Cobre's? Monsoon's?
When did mike browns daughter start running the bengals because if it was recently like the last 3-4 years then its one of the obvious reasons why the bengals are winning and spending more. She seems like she wants to win and make a contending team unlike her cheap father. If she is running it then now i know why the team has been better. All it took was a change in leadership. Which shows how bad mike brown has been as an owner and has kept the bengals down from their full potential.
Sadly, I kinda knew clicking on this video, I would find Cincinnati on this list. Players like Chad Johnson would buy up extra seats for a few seasons to make sure the blackouts would not happen. Many companies would do the same. I remember going to games as a kid with my Dad, thrilled to see a game, bought by his trucking company. Owners of nearby bought a lot of tickets. I would blame the city for being a baseball city, but it's not that. Mike Brown after his father passed away just barely squeak the franchise by. Always way, way under the salary cap, talent that we Cincy drafted were busts, and still to this day, the Bengals do not officially have a GM. Yes, Duke Toben is the closest thing possible, but he's not official. The previous Brown family opted out of prime time games and actually stated before the only game they actually care about winning was against the Browns organization because of the bad blood between them and his father. Then Browns became the Ravens, and Paul passed away, but the mentality didn't seem to change. I love the Bengals. I have been a fan of them for 40 years. They are still my team no matter what. I will also admit that I am broken because the faith I have in the team is low, even considering the recent changes made by Katie, Duke, and the others that have made some really good choices to be competitive and move away from mediocrity. It was amazing winning a playoff game in over 30 years and making it to a Superbowl. I absolutely hope that, as a fan, it will happen again. But I am an old fan and realize Mike is still in the mix. So I watch or listen and always hope for the best, but expect the worst.
Indianapolis should be the Racers. We had a WHA team with that name. Racing is what Indianapolis is known for.
Baltimore should have been able to keep the name Colts.
Indianapolis Racers 🏎️🏁
Houston had the Gamblers in the usfl so that could be the Las Vegas name. Ask for Los angeles, people think it's a two team town for every sport because baseball is so good, but they forget that the Angels play in Anaheim, which given Los Angeles area traffic, and California in general, might as well be a whole other city.
Arizona should be on this list
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How St. Louis lost out to Jacksonville for that expansion team I'll never figure out.
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I would've put Carolina or Atlanta instead of Cincinnati.
Atlanta still rather strongly supports the Falcons, you'll see a decent amount of Falcons gear in the A, certainly more than the Hawks, whose games are almost all transplants. Carolina is a good choice, but for me Nashville is up there. I see tons of people rocking Predators gear in Nashville, but very seldom Titans gear. Their stadium is also in a prime location yet is usually filled with visitors.
@@MrRapmaster19the most recent Falcons home game looked like a sea of purple
Cincinnati got nothing on the Carolina Panthers fan base Cincinnati sucking
The constant mispronunciation of "Jaguars" as "Jag-WIRES" drives me nuts.
And I thought I was the only one.
JAX gets heat for "tHe OnE lOnDoN HoMe gAmE" even though most teams in the league has taken advantage of these international cash cow games...
with two London games home/away that’s two nationally/internationally televised games guaranteed every year
Those teams don't play in London every year though.
I agree with you about Vegas. I have lived here over 30 years from NYC. Vegas really isn't a raiders town. The single game tickets are too damn high. We don't even the A"s coming here. Vegas is more of a Dodgers town instead of a A's town.
For a team to succeed in a market like Vegas, you need to make it "their" team. It's why the Golden Knights have been such a massive success there. I go to Vegas for work a few times a year, and 90% of the sports gear I see from locals is Golden Knights gear, because they were a team designed for Vegas and them. Raiders still feel like a corporate transplant, and it'd be even worse for the A's.
@@MrRapmaster19That is why Vegas should have gotten an expansion MLB team instead.
By the way, when the NBA comes to Vegas(I be shocked it does not happen by the 2035 season at the latest) it will probably be smartly an expansion team.
the Washington garbage dump should be at least #5 I was surprised
I'm a Steelers fan living in Cincinnati. I had Bengals season tickets until the "new" stadium seat licenses. I enjoyed the blackout games, and, yes, it's a baseball city. LA and LV are the best away games!! Sofi was like a home game.
Raiders need to come back to OAKLAND
And play where? A parking lot?
Dude, have you seen Oakland? Its a wasteland.
I think the Raiders also had their lunch stolen in Vegas to a degree by the Golden Knights, who had that magical run all the way to finals in their expansion season, the sort of unprecedented success story that captures the public imagination and gets people really interested in the team. Then, they won it all, completing the heist (sure, the Knights were there first, but this is the US, an NHL team outdoing an NFL team in fan support/affection is rare). Additionally, as an expansion franchise, even transplant fans can sorta add them as a second team, or newly minted fans can adopt them as their personal favorites. Meanwhile, the Raiders in Vegas have been very whatever, with only a single playoff appearance (a loss) to their name.
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"... The following in Oakland was pretty poor..."
Proceeds to show a sold out home game in Oakland lol
Finally, a bottom 5 cities list that DIDN'T include Detroit. And it's really not that bad here. y'all.
Was just at the chargers game yesterday (as a Lions fan). It was Ford Field West, way way more Lions fans at Sofi than Chargers; probably 3:1
Yep noticed that on tv
Raiders should have been allowed to go to Los Angeles a second time. Chargers can have Las Vegas. Colts name is In Indianapolis. Ravens play in Baltimore because the NFL didn’t find a way for Baltimore to keep name, colors, history of Colts. Can’t blame Robert Irsay for moving to Indianapolis
I believe many former fans are sick of the greed in the entire league & all professional sports.Players have no more loyalty or appreciation to the teams or the local fan base.Owners relocate because taxpayers' money won't be used to build toys for them in the form if new stadiums.Also,sports are evidently gggoing down in popularity.Attendence & television viewership are lower than they once were.
I’m one of the few Vegas natives. I don’t watch football but I hate having the Allegiant stadium. Apart from home games it plays host to many other events. Since most people on the Valley work near the Strip, this combined with constant road work makes getting home a nightmare. Almost took me two hours one night just to get home.
I also hate having the Golden Knights cause I’m a Penguins fan.
One good thing about Detroit is that every thanksgiving day in NFL doubleheader game theyre in
How was the support for the Chargers when they were in San Diego? Their fan base lives down there. Rams crapped on LA, now they're back and expecting to be forgiven. Las Vegas and Tampa rely on vacationers.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Atlanta. They only come out when their team is good and once went years between sellouts.
Atlanta should be on the list. I live in Georgia and have gone to a few Falcons games. In every instance it felt like the Falcons were the visiting team because a large number in attendance were fans of the other team.
Raiders have been selling out games when they were in Oakland, the Oakland fans were always there and it would be nothing but Raider jersey in the coliseum... Only reason they would get blacked out was because the league felt that they could put other teams on TV, but living in Southern California there's been more than a few times that the originally programmed game would be taken off air and replaced with a more competitive game and sho nuff wit would be a Raider game... I miss the days when they lived in Oakland cause the Vegas Raider fans wanted them but hardly show up... It's a damn shame...
That's why i was upset when the league gave the chargers "priority" on their decision for leaving SD... The Raiders should've gotten it first since they've been trying to get a new stadium for Decades... Especially since there's more Raider fans in LA than charger fans lol... But it is what it is...
They literally tarped off over 10k seats at the coliseum during games before the Raiders left, not sure what your talking about.
The Rams Should’ve stayed back home in my Hometown. SAINT LOUIS MISSOURI
Los Angeles their real home and Cleveland their birthplace
Amen brother!
Nobody wants to stay in St. Louis. They’re la’s original team anyways
No excuse for LA to have two NFL teams; not to mention UCLA and USC football. Chargers do not belong. If San Diego is deemed a non-starter find a fresh new location:
Portland, or Mexico City, or even Hawaii (in a stretch).
Teams like the Rams and Oakland come and go, threaten to leave if taxpayers don't fork out money for newer stadiums, etc. If they stayed in 1 place, maybe they'd build a following. Don't forget, the Rams played in Anaheim for awhile, that was almost like a different market.
Raiders have moved so much, they should change their name to the nomads.
I’d probably put Arizona or Carolina in there rather than cincy. But that’s coming from a bias bengals fan…
London a destination town. I went to the Bills Jags game in October. My pal is a massive Bills fan. His wife a Steeler. I'm a Raider. An hour on a plane from our hometown Glasgow. The experience was unforgettable. jags don't have or will ever have a fanbase in the uk
there’s support for the Bucs, as long as there’s stars on the team. They had stars back in the late 1990s-2000s, and then a big star with Tom Brady
Southern California has a plethora of outdoor activities to attract the people's interest. Paying overpriced tickets to see underwhelming NFL football falls down the list quickly. Kroenke is a better owner of the Rams, but Spanos is at the bottom of the pond when it comes to a team owner. I went to a lot of Charger games in the early 2000's. It boils down to: do you have an attractive product to sell, or is it inferior and unsatisfactory after the sale? Same criteria applies to football and all entertainment.
I don't know if this argument works all that much when Florida exists lol.
"Kroenke is a better owner." Congratulations on proving you're an idiot. #KroenkeOut
Kroenke is nothing but a sack of garbage. Just ask fans of his soccer team.
Pro and college sports are big in la
Thank you for not putting the city of New Orleans on this list. When New Orleans appears in the opening scene of this video, I thought for sure the Big Easy would be on it, and I would have given this video a thumbs down if New Orleans had been mentioned.
Buffalo is an NFL city with the second lowest population, Green Bay having the lowest population, but yet the Bills have an extremely strong fan base.
Yeah, cold-weather teams usually have strong fan bases because there's not much else to do there during winter. Speaking as a Browns fan.
Mr Gmart. It also helps the Bills a lot is that neighboring Ontario, Canada is next door. Including within 90 minutes drive away Toronto. Since the NFL currently (as of 2024) has no teams in Canada, many NFL Canadian fans will either be Bills, Lions or even Seahawks fans
@@americangiant1003 It's estimated that more than a third of Bills season ticket holders come from Southern Ontario. I could see Buffalo not being too thrilled about Toronto getting an NFL team as it would cut seriously into their fan base.
@@bufnyfan1 No doubt going off topic for second that a similar reason why that Southern Ontario has never got a 2nd team besides the Leafs in the NHL as well. A team in Hamilton or a 2nd team in Metro Toronto no doubt would cut into also the Sabres ticket sales as well.
I put a vote in for Kansas city being one of the worse NFL cities
I think Las Vegas will work as the London games are working: an attraction for tourists, among them a lot from Europe and other over-sea regions where it is hard to see a game live.
I'm from Germany and it is easier to get to a game in the US, than to one of the Germany games.
Eventually they will have cut ticket prices in half in Las Vegas.
Those words don't exist in their vocabulary.
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Why show Houston? Its one of the most valuable franchises. Have been to more playoff games than the Cowboys in their existence.
Yeah i refuse to root for the Raiders as a transplant. GO Seahawks!! LMAO
I agree with most of this list, but I will say that Tampa looks like they're on a major upswing. Jacksonville has shown that they'll support the Jags when they're winning.
Atlanta
There’s no need for three NFL franchises in Florida. Miami wasn’t on this list, but would likely be if it was expanded to the bottom ten for much the same reasons as Tampa Bay.
I could have told you that LA was a terrible football town. Why do you think those teams left town in the first place? If you argue that the Chargers shouldn't be there, fine. NEITHER SHOULD THE RAMS! They should have NEVER been allowed to leave St. Louis. Period.
They are la’s original team, and yes it is a football market. Don’t be ridiculous, it’s the second largest city in the country, all sports are popular there pro and collegiate. The rams are and have always been la’s team, they get more support there than they did in St. Louis.
St. Louis is a baseball town, and couldn’t fill the stadium after they stopped winning Super Bowls. If any city is a terrible football town it’s St. Louis.
I grew up in Buffalo. Bills fan, obviously. What should less out at you first is that these are all warm weather cities. I lived in San Diego for 25 years and attended maybe 5 games. There is too many options in these warm weather cities. Why buy season tickets in SoCal when you can buy Jet Skis? The Chargers are going to fail in Los Angeles, too. Perhaps the only flaw in the NFL business model is their unhealthy fetish for the LA television market. Any real football fans are already devoted to USC and UCLA on Saturdays. What few transplants there are did not relocate to SoCal for the football!
Washington should be on the list soon. Sad what they’ve become
From a player's perspective, NO player wants to live in the hellhole that is Detroit, and NO player wants to live in the backwater small town of Green Bay.
I mean i get what your saying but players only live where they play during the season mostly, and during the season there working so much the location isnt all that relevant.
Calling Jacksonville “small market” is not accurate. Not only is Jacksonville the largest city in Florida, the only NFL cities larger than Jacksonville are New York, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston and Phoenix.
Jacksonville is only large because the city limits are the entirety of Duval county.
Market size includes the entire metro area and tv market, not just city limits.
Washington Commanders home games and their attendance is pretty atrocious too, when the franchise was still under Dan Snyder's ownership the franchise as a team was often bad to mediocre at best and never once came close to ever contending and most DC sports fan pretty much had enough and stopped supporting the Commanders and stopped coming to their games.
To the present time however now under the Josh Harris ownership after buying the franchise from Dan Snyder, things could probably change for Football in DC in the future.
You hit the nail on the head with LA. No one cares about either team. The Chargers often had to use a silent count at home because of how loud opposing fans were. Even when the Rams hosted a playoff game, half the stadium was 49ers fans. It's quite sad and pathetic that the city they left had better TV ratings than the city they moved to. LA is such an overrated sports market.
They do care about the rams. Just because the niners took over their stadium doesn’t mean anything, they do that to the cowboys all the time. Does Dallas not care about the cowboys?
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 What a load of garbage. Rams had horrible crowds for many other games as well. The Cowboys never have home playoff games taken over by opposing fans.
@@fantasticvoyage262 you’re full of garbage. The rams are very popular in la. Their stadium is rarely taken over by any team other than the 49ers. They’re the most popular team in the city.
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 Says the clown with "GayFish" in their username. Just stop with the pathetic excuses. No one cared about the Rams before. And no one cares about them now. You can't even be taken seriously if you attempt to suggest "they are the most popular team in the city". Go to sleep kid.
@@fantasticvoyage262 so what is the most popular team in the city? The chargers? The 49ers? Stop being so dramatic. Not to mention culturally illiterate.
The NFL should have relegation.
There is no other way IMO for the NFL to get rid of sh*tty owners. Owners need to be penalized for being bad.
The NFL should Vetted future owners if they have the money and support to build their own Stadium and love the cities they in so no teams will move
The Bucs have one of the lowest win percentages in the NFL. When they have good teams they don’t stay good for very long and the team has never had a true franchise QB.
100% agree with this entire list. Cincy has dismal attendance numbers when the team was anything short of good, same goes for Tampa. Jacksonville has never had very strong support and the market stats there are very deceiving. The Raiders only do ok in Vegas because of tourists, disgustingly high ticket prices, and the national strength of the Raiders brand, but actual Vegas residents care way more about their damn NHL team than the NFL team. LA is an easy #1, nobody gives a crap about football there and the Chargers in particular probably will eventually move out of the city in the next decade. Their lack of fan support is embarrassing, especially since nobody wanted them there to begin with. Only city that honestly might be able to dethrone Cincy is Nashville. Have family there and they love the Preds, but I seldom see strong support for the Titans, who still don't quite feel like the city's team.
I only disagree with Vegas... because unlike the rest of the teams listed they have sold out their games since they moved to Vegas... Otherwise good list
Rams sell out better than raiders
I get that you’re a Cleveland sports fan, and that you’re biased. But I don’t know how you rank Cincy on this list over Arizona, Atlanta, Carolina, Nashville, and even Miami. You’re basing attendance numbers from over a decade ago, and a blackout rule that hasn’t been in affect in nearly a decade for your ranking which is also obsolete.
The raiders will be begging to leave Vegas when their lease is up
I lived in LA when the Raiders moved down from Oakland. They were quite popular in LA especially after their subsequent Super Bowl win. However I found most LA sport fans were Dodgers and Lakers fans and everything else was a distant second. Perhaps the Raiders would move back to LA and the Chargers back to San Diego.
@@deirdre108in a perfect world, the Rams would've stayed in St Louis, the chargers stay in SD and the Raiders move back to LA playing in their very own stadium...
Oh well...🫤🤷🏽♂️
Kinda surprised no mention of Arizona, pretty similar to both LA and Las Vegas.
I don't have time to look it up, but I feel safe saying that Riverfront Stadium had fewer seats than Paul Brown Stadium (I will use both stadiums' original name).
More seats = higher probability of a less-than-capacity crowd and a TV blackout.
To be honest, whenever I hear "Cincinnati Bengals" the image that enters my mind is Riverfront Stadium.
Ken Anderson tweeted (when it was still called Twitter) "I miss Riverfront Stadium".
I recall the Bengals only losing one playoff game in Riverfront Stadium. It took forever to finally win a playoff game in Paul Brown Stadium, and it wasn't until the post-season was expanded to a ridiculous number of teams.
Do you see a pattern here? The Bengals have not had an intimidating venue to play in. The Bengals sharing much-maligned Riverfront Stadium with the Reds made Cincinnati both a baseball and football city.
Since moving into their own supposed upgrade in facilities neither franchise has had a product on the field that comes near their most dominant days. Neither has had much post-season success in that time either.
Both franchises need their blue collar mentality back to go with their blue collar city.
It's not that the city is a bad NFL city. The NFL has simply changed in a way that the Bengals franchise has not adjusted to. Are Bengals/Browns or Bengals/Steelers even rivalries anymore?
Bring back the old Bengals or find a new identity that best suits today's sports landscape. A change in name and colors, and renovations to make the home stadium more intimidating might be what are needed. The city and its potential for supporting an NFL team are not the problem.
Wonder if San Antonio or Oklahoma City would make a good NFL city?
Cincinnati actually is pretty decent in my opinion
Hadda include Atlanta they game’s always empty
Detroit Lions never been in super bowl or playoffs
definitely la they lost 3, nfl teams. the rams , the raiders and the chargers in the 1960s. they had no nfl team for 20 years and nobody cared. cleveland they lost 2 teams the rams and the browns and nobody cared. baltimore colts left in the middle of the night. st. louis lost 2 teams the cardinals and the rams. nobody wants the cardinals they left chicago and st.louis. even in arizona the team is voted the worst treatment by the team to the players in secret surveys by the players.
😂😂😂 the Cardinals ain't 💩🖕🏼🤡
Let's go, Phoenix/Glendale didn't make the list!
Any city that doesn't own their team (every team except the Packers). I still don't know what purpose any of them serve (besides keeping the $ after making you pay for the stadium)
Philadelphia....
titans not mentioned!!!
I liked your videos until you came for Vegas. The fan base is huge and it’s top 5 nfl money makers!
I wouldn't say that just because a stadium has been modernized to be smaller seating capacity wise, like that's automatically a bad thing. Taking out these huge clusters of unnecessary seating, and replacing it with standing room only/restaurant areas is very popular in the NFL and the MLB.
What's a "black out"?
When X amount of tickets don't sell before the game, the league prohibits the game aired on local TV.
Buffalo not for the fans
Detroit
Minneapolis
Chicago
New York
Los Angeles
Cleveland
Lol
Seatle
New Orleans
No way. Cle is a top 5 fan base.
You got that right about L.A. Los Angeles is a baseball and basketball town. It always has been. The Rams left the first time because the city wouldn't build them a stadium and I saw a man-on-the-street sort of interview segment on it and nobody cared. Half the people they showed didn't even know they had left. Now, they may have been cherry picking a bit, but it's true. The NFL went back there because it was an embarrassment for the most successful league in North America to not have a franchise in the #2 market. Now, I'm not a tinfoil hat guy, but the NFL is entertainment first and foremost. I found it more than a bit conspicuous that Matt Stafford and Sean McVay just magically met up in some sleepy little vacation town right after Stafford asked the Lions to trade him. Then, all these sports talk types like Stephen A. Smith who used to trash Stafford had him throwing for 6, 000 yards and winning MVP etc. as part of the preseason hype. The memo from New York had clearly gone out. And low and behold, the Rams win it all that year, with more than a few friendly refs come playoff time.
Like that bit of theater wasn't staged. Like I say, I'm not a conspiracy guy but the suits wanted them to win and when the suits want something they get what they want. Now? Now we return to our regular programing. As for the Chargers they should have stayed where they were at. They started out as an AFL team in L.A. and it only took the original owner, Barron Hilton, one season to figure out his dog wasn't going to hunt in that market. They are getting what they deserve IMO. As for the Jags, three teams is just too many for Florida, especially when you throw the Atlanta Falcons into the mix. The market is just saturated. There was talk about them being the team to relocate to London but I think that idea is dying the slow death it deserves. A lot players have flat out said they will never play full-time in London. You think Californians get taxed bad? Anyway, I agree with your list. Well done.
La is an all sports town. The rams and raiders were always popular in la at the coliseum, the rams got lured to the Anaheim angels stadium death trap. The raiders moved back to Oakland after they caved. La is a football city too. Always has been. Just look at usc, rams, and the raiders history of fan support there.
So interesting, as an NFL fan from outta America. Hard to believe that in a city of 4M, LA team have such shite support. Is LA a basketball or baseball city then?
No, it’s an all sports city. It does not have shit support. The rams are very popular, and so are the other professional and collegiate sports teams like the lakers, dodgers, kings, usc, and ucla.
Cheers dude
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Eh, both the Rams & Chargers have shit support. So-Fi is always half-full of opposing teams fans?@@KanyeTheGayFish69
@@Carvello20 usually the rams sell out
I was shocked to see yesterday’s game, well the final play, of the Bengal’s game yesterday. They were tied with the Houston, they cut over to show the field goal attempt but zoomed out. The stadium was maybe half full! Like you got the top 5 qb, superbowl 2 years ago, fighting for the playoffs and you can’t muster more than that? As a Pittsburgher I just can not understand. Even in NHL and MLB we fill the seats when we’re doing well. God hates Ohio, I’m convinced
Well a big issue could be the owners apparently raised the bengals ticket prices making games unaffordable for some people. Ever since they started winning i knew it was a matter of time before prices raised for seats.
This is just incorrect. If you’d look at the numbers the game was sold out. Many people left the game late after we were down by two scores with under two minutes left. I went to the Steelers vs Bengals game last year in Pittsburgh, and there were plenty of empty seats. Also the Pirates play in one of the best ballparks in baseball and still consistently have one of the worst attendance numbers in the league.
A lot of seats are empty even during sellouts. Fans nowadays move around the stadium, enjoying the amenities with their friends & family.
Controversial Take:
The Rams belong in Los Angeles.
Cardinals should have never left St. Louis.
Chargers should be in San Diego.
Oilers should have never left.
Nashville (or Memphis) and Phoenix should have gotten expansion teams in the 80s or 90s.
Memphis wouldve been a bad idea, while its city population is high its surrounding area is not all that populated, when i went there a few years ago, it felt like it was no bigger than buffalo…
@@forgottenplaces9780 Fair enough. Reason I bring it up is because of that stadium they have.
Houston
LA is a basketball town
Not really. They like all sports, including college and pro sports.
Everywhere i go in LA i see Dodger hats and Dodger jerseys almost nothing for lakers or clippers
New York. Because they couldn't be arsed to have their NFL teams in their own city.
New York is still a baseball town, one of the few left
Met Life Stadium is closer to Times Square than Yankee Stadium. (As the crow flies.)
And don't get me started on the Santa Clara 49ers.
Too mny NFL teams if you ask me.
Unpopular opinion: I wish sports leagues would stop trying to make Vegas a thing. I get the reason, but it still feels like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
agree with the raiders they should have gone to LA before the chargers unless Kroenke was afraid of losing Ram fans what fans
Fans that still with them since the 80's
Chargers should come to Omaha small market yes but you’ll sell that stadium out every time
I farted and also the bears are better than the browns
That's like saying taking a punch to the face is better than a kick to the nuts.
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Can't "hate" on the truth. I'm a Bungles fan since they started but truth is truth.
Maybe the NFL would better off with a few less teams. Who cares about the Chargers, Jaguars, and, sadly, the Raiders who should have stayed in LA. The Rams broke the hearts of their followers by going to Godforsaken St. Louis. Less teams, better rivalries. Better chances of winning the Super Bowl.
That would be incredibly dumb business decision.
You put Bucs and Rams in this never mind they just wons Super Bowls
Doesnt mean there good nfl cities same priciple applies to the rays good team, bad baseball city.
@@forgottenplaces9780 Everyone know they not good NFL places because of the transplant of people from other states are moving to Florida and California but i don't see those two teams moving from those cities not in 80 years
@@forgottenplaces9780Tampa is a good baseball city with a team that plays in a bad location.
@forgottenplaces9780 spoken like someone who has never actually been to tampa. The bucs problem was they hadn't had very much success on the field, when they've been good they sell out and get lots of fan support. As for the Rays that's not a fanbase issue that's the fact that the stadium is in the worst possible spot.
This video has nothing to do with team success.
First
My 3 worst NFL Cities;
St. Louis, because they didn't support the cardinals nor rams.
Green Bay, because it's obscure and as a bears fan, just move the Packers to Milwaukee
Jacksonville, because there are no other sports teams there, just move the Jaguars to Orlando.
You better not single-handily try to move the Raiders out of Las Vegas, because of what you said on 3:15
The Packers will never move. That’s def just your Windy City bias but I do agree with the sentiment, being born in Chi myself. St. Louis is weird because it seems they love the Cardinals and Blues even if they suck granted that’s not a fact just my experience watching their games.
Jacksonville I agree. That or move the Magic to Jacksonville or Tampa and move the Jaguars somewhere else (not London tho)
St Louis supported the Cardinals and Rams as well as any NFL city when those teams were successful. Then the teams started sucking and both teams had the misfortune of having shitty owners who didn't care to ever improve.
Green Bay? Are you crazy lol? The fans flock to that stadium every week. Who cares if it's small, it works for them.
Idiotic take
@@ChildOfThe1970s if it weren't for the Packers incredible fan support in Green Bay they would have moved to Milwaukee decades ago
philly NEEDS to be here