What's your thoughts if you compare with Zowie ZA13-DW for shape, quality, qoating, performans etc? I will buy one of them. My hand size 185x105mm and currently using gpx2 and it feels bulky to me.
Sorry, don't have a ZA13-DW and its been a long time, since I used the OG ZA13. Hoping to get a review unit, but most likely will buy and review in the future. As for now, all I can recommend is try the Zowie U2-DW, Lamzu Maya X, or EGG XM2w. The GPX2 was bulky for me too.
Both are excellent quality. Performance is better on XM2w 4k, if you notice is different thing. For me it feels more responsive but I do have 480Hz oled and my ZA13-DW has slightly more pre-travel so that affects it too. I like how XM2w 4k clicks work at 4000Hz even if you use 2k or 1k Hz. Coating is my favourite on white XM2w but ZA is good too, just a fingerprint magnet compared ofc because of the color. Both are smaller than GPX, ZA is thinner than XM2. GPX also has more of a middle hump and both XM2 and ZA have a clear back hump, especially the latter. I don't notice much of weight difference in use. And Zowie has improved their skates too so no big difference there either. I really like the Zowie charging dock/receiver but also love the travel bag that XM2w comes in since I attend lans time to time. XM2w 4k has an excellent software and Zowie none. Overall I'd give XM2w 4k 9.5 and ZA13-DW 8 out of 10. But the shape is the most important thing so even though XM2w 4k is better mouse and clearly better value, you could prefer ZA13-DW too if you like thinner mouse and straighter sides. Or the upcoming OP1w 4k.
@@lepari9986 Thanks for your answer. I'm not an expert, so my technical explanation might not be sufficient, but let me explain my experiences. First of all, I use a claw grip, but since the GPX2 has a high middle elevation and the clicks are not aggressively sloped downwards, I can't achieve the grip I want. I want to hold it with my fingers slightly bent, and at the same time, because there isn't an inward curve at the side, I can't grip it tightly. I prefer the back of the upper part to be high, as I want my hand to make contact with the area under my knuckles (MCP). I also want the back of my palm to touch the mouse. I don't like bending my pinky and ring fingers too much; instead, I enjoy holding the corners with my extended fingers. Here, I want there to be enough space on the right front corner of the mouse. In short, you can think of it as a pincer claw grip and knuckle claw grip (MCP grip) hybrid. The GPX is large in both width and height, so I try to hold the mouse further back to create space in my palm, allowing for better downward movement of the mouse. I hope I've expressed myself well. If you could also take a look at the conversation I had with the other friend below, you can see my comments on the other mice I've used. Thank you for your interest. www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/s/1ezUsjZ4tK I used the Zowie EC3-CW a while ago, and I found it a bit short in length and narrow on the sides. It also caused some pain in my elbow. Of course, it's an ergonomic mouse, but I wanted to mention it. Ps: kinda like its consistency 😂 Also, I had the opportunity to try the Zowie U2 in a store. The height at the back fit perfectly in my palm (without any gaps), and the thumb position was great. However, I think I found it uncomfortable due to the narrowness of the front right edge, which made it difficult to grip the mouse properly. Perhaps this information could serve as a reference for you to write your thoughts. 😊 I used the DAV3 Pro wireless for almost 1,5 years but I found it long (above 124-125mm is big for me) and bulk. Also I did npt like Razer qoating and it had cracking noise all the time after 4-5 months.
@@lepari9986 thanks for the answer. Let me tell you my experiences; I'm not an expert, so my technical explanation might not be sufficient, but let me explain. First of all, I use a claw grip, but since the GPX2 has a high middle elevation and the clicks are not aggressively sloped downwards, I can't achieve the grip I want. I want to hold it with my fingers slightly bent, and at the same time, because there isn't an inward curve at the side, I can't grip it tightly. I prefer the back of the upper part to be high, as I want my hand to make contact with the area under my knuckles (MCP). I also want the back of my palm to touch the mouse. I don't like bending my pinky and ring fingers too much; instead, I enjoy holding the corners with my extended fingers. Here, I want there to be enough space on the right front corner of the mouse. In short, you can think of it as a pincer claw grip and knuckle claw grip (MCP grip) hybrid. The GPX is large in both width and height, so I try to hold the mouse further back to create space in my palm, allowing for better downward movement of the mouse. I hope I've expressed myself well. If you could also take a look at the conversation I had with the other friend below, you can see my comments on the other mice I've used. Thank you for your interest. www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/s/1ezUsjZ4tK
I used the Zowie EC3-CW a while ago, and I found it a bit short in length and narrow on the sides. It also caused some pain in my elbow. Of course, it's an ergonomic mouse, but I wanted to mention it. Ps: kinda like its consistency 😂 Also, I had the opportunity to try the Zowie U2 in a store. The height at the back fit perfectly in my palm (without any gaps), and the thumb position was great. However, I think I found it uncomfortable due to the narrowness of the front right edge, which made it difficult to grip the mouse properly. Perhaps this information could serve as a reference for you to write your thoughts. 😊
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What's your thoughts if you compare with Zowie ZA13-DW for shape, quality, qoating, performans etc? I will buy one of them. My hand size 185x105mm and currently using gpx2 and it feels bulky to me.
Sorry, don't have a ZA13-DW and its been a long time, since I used the OG ZA13. Hoping to get a review unit, but most likely will buy and review in the future. As for now, all I can recommend is try the Zowie U2-DW, Lamzu Maya X, or EGG XM2w. The GPX2 was bulky for me too.
Both are excellent quality. Performance is better on XM2w 4k, if you notice is different thing. For me it feels more responsive but I do have 480Hz oled and my ZA13-DW has slightly more pre-travel so that affects it too. I like how XM2w 4k clicks work at 4000Hz even if you use 2k or 1k Hz.
Coating is my favourite on white XM2w but ZA is good too, just a fingerprint magnet compared ofc because of the color.
Both are smaller than GPX, ZA is thinner than XM2. GPX also has more of a middle hump and both XM2 and ZA have a clear back hump, especially the latter.
I don't notice much of weight difference in use. And Zowie has improved their skates too so no big difference there either. I really like the Zowie charging dock/receiver but also love the travel bag that XM2w comes in since I attend lans time to time. XM2w 4k has an excellent software and Zowie none.
Overall I'd give XM2w 4k 9.5 and ZA13-DW 8 out of 10. But the shape is the most important thing so even though XM2w 4k is better mouse and clearly better value, you could prefer ZA13-DW too if you like thinner mouse and straighter sides. Or the upcoming OP1w 4k.
@@lepari9986 Thanks for your answer. I'm not an expert, so my technical explanation might not be sufficient, but let me explain my experiences.
First of all, I use a claw grip, but since the GPX2 has a high middle elevation and the clicks are not aggressively sloped downwards, I can't achieve the grip I want. I want to hold it with my fingers slightly bent, and at the same time, because there isn't an inward curve at the side, I can't grip it tightly. I prefer the back of the upper part to be high, as I want my hand to make contact with the area under my knuckles (MCP). I also want the back of my palm to touch the mouse. I don't like bending my pinky and ring fingers too much; instead, I enjoy holding the corners with my extended fingers. Here, I want there to be enough space on the right front corner of the mouse.
In short, you can think of it as a pincer claw grip and knuckle claw grip (MCP grip) hybrid. The GPX is large in both width and height, so I try to hold the mouse further back to create space in my palm, allowing for better downward movement of the mouse. I hope I've expressed myself well.
If you could also take a look at the conversation I had with the other friend below, you can see my comments on the other mice I've used. Thank you for your interest.
www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/s/1ezUsjZ4tK
I used the Zowie EC3-CW a while ago, and I found it a bit short in length and narrow on the sides. It also caused some pain in my elbow. Of course, it's an ergonomic mouse, but I wanted to mention it. Ps: kinda like its consistency 😂
Also, I had the opportunity to try the Zowie U2 in a store. The height at the back fit perfectly in my palm (without any gaps), and the thumb position was great. However, I think I found it uncomfortable due to the narrowness of the front right edge, which made it difficult to grip the mouse properly.
Perhaps this information could serve as a reference for you to write your thoughts. 😊
I used the DAV3 Pro wireless for almost 1,5 years but I found it long (above 124-125mm is big for me) and bulk. Also I did npt like Razer qoating and it had cracking noise all the time after 4-5 months.
@@lepari9986 thanks for the answer. Let me tell you my experiences;
I'm not an expert, so my technical explanation might not be sufficient, but let me explain. First of all, I use a claw grip, but since the GPX2 has a high middle elevation and the clicks are not aggressively sloped downwards, I can't achieve the grip I want. I want to hold it with my fingers slightly bent, and at the same time, because there isn't an inward curve at the side, I can't grip it tightly. I prefer the back of the upper part to be high, as I want my hand to make contact with the area under my knuckles (MCP). I also want the back of my palm to touch the mouse. I don't like bending my pinky and ring fingers too much; instead, I enjoy holding the corners with my extended fingers. Here, I want there to be enough space on the right front corner of the mouse.
In short, you can think of it as a pincer claw grip and knuckle claw grip (MCP grip) hybrid. The GPX is large in both width and height, so I try to hold the mouse further back to create space in my palm, allowing for better downward movement of the mouse. I hope I've expressed myself well.
If you could also take a look at the conversation I had with the other friend below, you can see my comments on the other mice I've used. Thank you for your interest.
www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/s/1ezUsjZ4tK
I used the Zowie EC3-CW a while ago, and I found it a bit short in length and narrow on the sides. It also caused some pain in my elbow. Of course, it's an ergonomic mouse, but I wanted to mention it. Ps: kinda like its consistency 😂
Also, I had the opportunity to try the Zowie U2 in a store. The height at the back fit perfectly in my palm (without any gaps), and the thumb position was great. However, I think I found it uncomfortable due to the narrowness of the front right edge, which made it difficult to grip the mouse properly.
Perhaps this information could serve as a reference for you to write your thoughts. 😊
i've had a lot of issues with the scroll wheel jumping
It's been a month from the video and on my unit no problems.
trash mouse... keeps unpairing with dongle. This is the second mouse I get and keeps doing the same.
Frost or normal version ?
lol it’s your pc not the mouse 😂😂
No it doesn't. You're doing something wrong