Power Girl | The Myth -The Legend -The Window?
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Power Girl is a DC Comics character known as much for her iconic look and costume just as much if not more than for her history, origin and actual character. Superman's cousin has had quite the journey when it comes to how artists have depicted here, and some think the rationale of how we got here is an urban legend, nay a myth. So here on Casually Comics we attempt to trace the changes in Power Girl's design and see just where it started. Wally Wood? The Justice League? Amanda Conner? Nowhere? Let's see where we end up!
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“I will die on this hill.”
Not “these hills”?
…I’ll see myself out. 😉
I liked the "it's got a nice shady spot"
Nice
You better 😆
Frankly, I'm just very happy that we're still talking about Powergirl.
It disappointed me that she had pretty much no representation in the Rebirth era until Doomsday Clock #12. Hoping she'll get put into a team book in the near future (because a solo book is asking too much, I'm sure).
@@jackhole1979 Whenever Geoff Gohns gets around to do the new JSA book she will be on it.
She deserves a solo run and her own animated series.
@@spasebar The closest we have been to that has been with the New DC Super Hero Girls TV series where Supergirl is just channeling Powergirl so hard. The chapter where she actually wears the Powergirl white costume made my day.
Damn right, Babydoll. Powergirl is a fucking QUEEN.
As a female, and someone who both cosplays and larger chested, each woman in real life have different sized chests. I think there’s nothing wrong with power girls costume. Also nothing wrong with the views people have. But in my opinion it makes the character. But Sasha, amazing video as always 🤗. I see your videos and have to watch immediately
I agree 100%. Let comic characters be people!
Do you think they should make her curvier all the way around? Really getting a different body type in there.
tactical error, you should have linked to your cosplay page :P
You cosplay, AND have a large chest? The public demands visual proof...
I also agree, and since you're a cosplayer I can say this:"isn't it more fun to make a well-made holed Powergirl costume instead of a plain boring white tube that you can simply make by buying a white one-piece?
Why is it so difficult for people to admit men and women come in all different body types?
Shows why Amanda Conner is a great artist. She’s making all kinds of sense.
There’s only one way to answer “This is the way.”
I've personally really enjoyed this boob window saga. In all the previous conversations I've seen about Power Girl, people often take the stand of "my opinion is right and if you don't agree then you're part of the problem". These videos make it feel okay to have a conversation about an admittedly silly topic.
They tried to get rid of it during the new 52. The new costume didn't last long. She went back to her original after her first meeting with Supergirl.
If I was a comic book creative type, I'd make a superheroine with three boobs that have nothing to do with her origin or powers... she just has them... just to troll people who make big deals about such things.
Ironically my main issue with the controversy is not her cup size but that people are calling this fabulous keyhole-top she wears a "boob window" and stylish divas demand respect XD
@@blackrazer22 The red, yellow & white New 52 version was pretty cool but it was also pretty blah compared to her classic pristine whites.
@@That80sGuy1972 I have massive respect for this man.
"How will we see outside?" OMG ROFLMAO
That comment got me too. Best part of the video.
I remember Green Arrow commenting on the obvious' difference's between Supergirl and Power Girl in the JLU cartoon.
Because of course Green Arrow, of all heroes, would do that. Arrow has always been the more... liberal type.
@joshua harrison If I have to spell it out for you, then that ruins the humor.
@joshua harrison I believe the term is used in a less political sense, like a liberal scoop of coffee. Meaning less restrained. Lowercase 'L'.
Power Girl wasn't in JLU...
@@LucasAndrowick Her cartoon version was a villain in the show.
I've really enjoyed the last three Power Girl episodes. But I have a suggestion/request, can we spend an equal amount of time on Nightwing's Butt? You know, for the research.
What makes you think I'm not already ;) lol!
@@CasuallyComics Christmas coming early y'all!
Like the young female students in the Grayson series, who had names for each "cheek"?
I think we'd all be down to talk about dick-butt.
@@CasuallyComics Seeing as Nightwing's my favorite hero of all time, that reply alone has earned you a subscriber.
Imagine if Rob Liefield had drawn Power Girl like he did Captain America...
some things are to terrible and heinous to even think about
That is too horrible to imagine.
That would be a very interesting turn of events.
How dare you?!
it would look like shit like the rest of his art
Her breast size is not an issue to me. A range of sizes among women is accurate. Just be equal about it and give some men larger packages as well.
I wish they did.
Like...... you want that to be noticeable? Like a bulge?
don't handle the package unless you're going to deliver
I'd say before we give men larger packages, why don't we have big butt female characters ? Or big calved ? Or big bellied ?
Answer, it's not about reality... it's about fantasy...
Drawing male characters with prominent packages will just lock in the issue of sexualizing superhero characters... just for the consumers who would have an affinity for that, whether they be guys. ... Or gals like Marisa.
There's just a whole big ol' world of body sizes and types out there that go without representation in pop culture. I'll go to my favorite character, Iron Man. In issue #300, Bethany Cabe, wearing a previous model of Tony Stark's Iron Man suit to help combat an unstoppable monster, tells War Machine that "you know I know how to fight." while also complaining that her "breasts are killing me, my hips are chaffed raw, and I've got an itch I don't want to talk about.", which I thought was a pretty compellingly realistic portrayal of a strong female character. I dug it.
But the same was never, well at least in the approximately 90 issues I owned at the time and the several hundred I've read since, portrayed for any of the male characters who ever donned Tony's duds. Happy Hogan and Eddie March never complained that the suit chaffed their shoulders or gave them blisters on their heels or toes, even though two boxers should have had much better developed physiques than a "billionaire playboy".
However, when another female character had a comic book transformation that bucked this trope, the characterization was very different. A character who was horrified and despaired of her transformation and the powers it gave her. And that was Ms.Marvel, Sharon Ventura when she turned into the She-Thing over Fantastic Four issues #310-345. But unlike Jennifer Walters turning into the sexy uber-amazon She-Hulk, Ms.Marvel didn't inherit the stereotypical sexy fantasy body.
I guess she followed the same character arch that Ben Grimm did over his transformation, just in a more condensed series of issues.
My point is that dad-bods and BBWs don't sell comics. Sorry to say.
See batman damned...lol
This is the first time I've heard anyone talk about imaginary boobs so much, outside of anime. I love it, lol. Plus the history of how this went down is pretty interesting.
When I was teenager I was soooooo embarrassed with my chest size and that makes me try to hide it which result to my back problems
I don't think I'll have this mentality if I know about power girl
so yes superheroes should come in every sizes, shapes and colors
Or…just having big boobs gave you back problems. Consider a reduction if you need it, it helped a friend of mine a lot.
Just to throw it out there...During the New 52 World's Finest series, George Perez designed a new costume for Power Girl, that completely covered her up, but the running gag was that every couple of issues it was either getting ripped up or somehow damaged usually around the cleavage area if not destroyed all together. I'm pretty sure this kept up until a new art team arrived and soon after PG went back to her "classic" costume.
That was a tough year! Luckily Supergirl's fortress made her a perfectly revealing new one.
It's weird how the "big" in art has changed. Like how there's serious/joke/whatever manga, fanart, and others out there with busts that make Power Girl seem flat in comparison.
It's interesting to think about
Yeah.
Japanese artists are notorious for pushing the boundaries. You can thank the fact that Japanese culture has never been completely overwhelmed by the Catholic Church, or Islam. The world is a better place because Japan was isolated from the rest of the world until the 19th Century.
Powergirl is one of my favorite superheroes. I love the fact that she is Kryptonian, female and very self confident. I think that her classic costume spells superheroism. It shows off a perfect person, just like Superman's costume. I never got upset about the way Superman was drawn which I think is the male equevalent to Powergirl. I like my superheroes to look like superheroes. If I was a femanist I would be more upset that Wonder Woman now needs a sheild and a weapon. Thanks for the great Powergirl videos.
or Atlantian. or from Earth 2.
I agree 100%
shield's are ridiculous, but a sword is kind of just a boost to her offense with how fast she swings it.
It does kinda undermine her rawness but makes her a more refined fighter like batman rather than a superman who's got hands rated PG-13 for everyone.
I interned at DC back in '89. Bart Sears was the artist on the JLE at the time and they would constantly ask him to tone down the breasts. Many times they would send it to the in house art department to have them toned down. To be fair, he was drawing them comparable to say Stormy Daniels. It was a but much.
I think there should be more body types in comics. I understand some characters are going to have an athletic build because of their activities but UFC fighters have different builds. Runners and gymnasts have different builds. Lean and muscular is not every active person.
Unfortunately, some people take that as meaning "let's make a superhero that's morbidly obese and physically incapable of fighting evil without having a heart attack"
@@MrColuber
So? I mean, Byron had a point about lazy art, and you just brought up some "anti-sjw topic." Of course I am going to inquire what your point was.
@@MrColuber While I understand what you are saying I am curious as to what characters it is you are meaning in particular. Other then 'Blob' and 'Big Bertha' I can't think of anyone off of the top of my head who would be "morbidly obese" and with those characters that is just the point of their powers.
@@rrod1392 Trailblazer.
@Frank Castle Curious as to which characters in particular you are meaning when you say "morbidly obese".
I hate when people ask 'who cares.' If you have to ask, then you already know of at least one person who cares in at least some capacity (that being the person you're saying 'who cares' to). There are so many better questions to be asking - 'why do you care? why should I care? why am I still here if I don't care, why am I wasting my time complaining that other people care about something that I don't care about, my life is precious and short and surely there are better things to be doing?'
People who tend to ask "who cares?" are actually secretly interested, but are too ashamed/embarrassed to ask for themselves, so they brush it off like it's "somebody else' problem." It's classic avoidance of personal shame. That desperate attempt to look like "the cool guy" in the crowd.
So I turned 12 in 1979. I did the bulk of my comic reading between 79 and 86 and during that time I picked up a log of back issues, including All Star Comics final run from 58 to 74. I remember Power Girl from that to the JSA/JLA crossovers she was in to the JSA run in adventure comics, her appearances in backup stories with the Huntress in Wonder Woman to her appearances in Infinity Inc. Oddly enough I never really gave her bust size, or the changes to it much thought. At the time there were characters that wore much more revealing outfits in comics (Red Sonja, Vampirella, Tigra to name just a few) and I always just took her look as the way it was supposed to be. My only real question about it was, at least back then, was how if she and Supergirl of Earth-1 were supposed to be the same person, why did they have such different builds. It isn't like Now where Supergirl is portrayed ad being a teenager, back in the 80's she was an adult in her 20's, roughly the same age a Power Girl. So that disparity always seemed an odd thing to me since other characters like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Bat Woman and other identical characters looked more alike. That for me was a bigger question than "why are her boobs getting bigger". Although in later years I will admit that after having it brought to my attention I did have a passing curiosity but I had just attributed it different artists interpretation of the character. I will say this though...the whole subject did give us one of the best references to the matter in comics, I am of course referring to the scene at the end of an Elseworlds story called Kingdom Come where Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman are all having dinner in a superhero themed restaurant and when Batman asks the waiter what cut of chicken is in the sandwich named after Power Girl the waiter replies..."the breast". That moment gave me a great laugh and considering the serious nature of the story that scene was an epilogue to it was certainly necessary. To be honest, over all, I think the whole issue surrounding the size of her bosom has been blown way out of proportion (pun intended). I mean yes that aspect of the character has become such an integral part of the character that it cannot be ignored, and yes it was a curiosity for many, but now that we have our answer (and yes this all did answer my own questions as to the differences between her appearance and that of her Earth-1 counter part as well.) There are so many more aspects to the character than this and her character history is so....convoluted ( I know you did a video on that as well and that is my next watch) that maybe it's time for people to take the the answers for what they are and focus on other aspects of the character for a while.
IMO, nobody portrayed Power Girl better than Amanda Conner. Her expressions and everything that can be said about the way Conner presented the character was perfect in my mind. She's never looked better before or since.
I'd love a video like this on the sexualisation/female empowerment of starfire. She is also an interesting character who always walks the edge between owning her body, sexual desires and revealing costumes and being objectified. For me it really depends on how the writer depicts her own attitude towards the issue. Its not everything (you can after doing so still draw her very objectifying) but I think that really informs for me through what lense I look at the issue.
I have not read much powergirl but I assume its the same for her.
At about 3:48, when you say the word _chastisement,_ my brain heard _chest-sizement._ This is what happens when every other line in the video is flirting with double entendre. I blame you, Sasha. Keep doing what you're doing.
More Power Girl!! Yah!!
All I'll say is that it's nice to see the most intelligent person from "that other channel" with her own channel. It's obvious you research your videos. Not to mention you're a person that actually reads comics! Thanks for your hard work!
I think it's fine. Certain characters have certain defining characteristics. There should be differences in body type, height, weight, etc. Also, I generally roll my eyes about "oversexualizing" in comics. It does happen, of course, but I feel that both sexes are more often portrayed in an IDEALIZED way versus a SEXUALIZED one. There are huge philosophical differences there.
I always had a certain...interest in PG... Is it her "healthy physique", her "window"?
*YES!*
We need more sincere people in this world
I love Power Girl. She’s my fav DC super Heroine! I just wish she gets more love in DC comics. She only has small appearances within the Harley Quinn book. God I want her to have her own comic again. I would buy it in a heart beat. *sigh* At least I have her comic volumes and read them again for the 8th time.
It's somewhat Ironic for people to try fighting 'over-sexualization' by attempting to mute female characters, which is problematic too. Often times the reaction is more telling of the person viewing rather than the character herself. I think it's healthy and an honest reflection of a body that exists.
Anyone who says something along the lines that a character is only sexy because a man drew her never talked to a lesbian artist or went to a convention with costumed people.
It’s incredible how delusional some people are about justifying blatant sexism. Which PG’s design is and always has been. Just embrace it. It’s okay to enjoy it, just be honest about what it is.
"Few people respond well to being told 'this is the way'"
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Did you catch her "debut" on DC Super Hero Girls? She has one of her rare appearance's in animated form on a kids show!
Bart Sears, the first artist on 'Justice League Europe,' was really the first artist post 'All-Star Comics' who exaggerated the Power Pulchritude.
Sasha, you have far more patience than me. You bring receipts, you reference quotes, you even use images from the correct issues. For people to then turn round and tell you you are wrong, well that’s simply because you challenged their assumption and they don’t like to be challenged. I would have simply said, “you’re wrong, I checked my sources you haven’t. Go away”.
I love your “you be you” approach. you aren’t calling out the people who have it wrong, but you are underlining that no, you didn’t get it wrong and here’s the proof.
I’ve been a fan since your top ten nerd days and honestly I miss you over there. But this channel is more my speed. Random, laid back and willing to go right back to the golden age for reference. Too many youtubers seem to draw an imaginary line at their own birth and not even acknowledge these histories exist, since they aren’t cannon anymore.
I grew up on golden and silver age reprints, so hearing about all star comics and worlds finest is as relevant as any of the post infinite crisis stuff. Perhaps more so, since non of the current edgy stuff would exist without the comics code era wackiness.
I really like how you handled this topic. I'm a fan of the comics, but since I've gotten older, I've grown away from them. Though they still hold my interest, I keep to the periphery (what a great word!). It is hard to tell these days who is a true comic fan and who is just a troll expressing outrage over - whatever! I have always liked Power Girl, as a kid - for obvious reasons, but now for the story arcs and all the drama surrounding her "assets". I do love your take on all the topics you discuss, you really do seem to have fun in what you're doing and do a lot of research on your topics. Thank you for all this!
I realize most of the "growth" of the PowerGirl character happened in the 60s, but if it wasn't for the 90s (pre-woke culture) and the fact that the comic buyer was older (notice I didn't say "more mature") along with the whole "bad girl" craze in comics, I don't think larger mammalian protruberences would necessarily been "established. I mean, face it, compared to Lady Death from Chaos comics and some of the other women from the 90s, Power Girl is almost a pirate's dream.
What I really enjoy about your videos is that you explore the history, acknowledge various conflicting opinions, maintain a sense of humor, and are capable of having a nuanced discussion or opinion. Rare commodities these days. Keep up the excellent work and thank you.
Keep creating provocative content lol I’m in! As a comic book fan I find it a change of pace, it gives you that distinction between the other run of the mill content creators on here. Do you girl!!
What about the strange Harley Quinn Powergirl?
Harley Quinn New 52 run had Powergirl appear, this is after Earth-2 Powergirl returned to Earth. She makes interacts with characters she's only interested with Pre New 52, making lots of references to the Post Infinite crisis Run.
This Powergirl had a miniseries with Harley Quinn and then made multiple appears with Harley Quinn run.
It's worth noting that the writer artist duo of this run is the same as the Post Infinite Crisis Run.
Two creative efforts finally sold me on Power Girl as an interesting character:
- Palmiotti and Conner's take on Karen, her plastique, her attitude towards it and also her place in the superheroic community.
- Alex Ross' visual take on her in Kingdom Come and later in JSA. It showed she could be badass and no one gave a hoot about her chest.
Since then, she's rating in the top characters in DC for me, along with Superman, Wonder Woman and Dick Grayson, who are my absolute faves.
The various versions of why her chest kept growing in her drawings is a fun fact, and I seriously don't see it as a demeaning to women, because Karen is in on the joke and she plays it off.
Now, what the New 52 did to Starfire... that's another story, lol.
These two videos were an educational experience for me. I saw Powergirl come out of the multiple universes thing and took her original appearance as a comic book poke at exaggerated female body types. Maybe that still is a part of what happened. I broke down and took an interest in the character in spite of my loathing of the whole multiple universes mess because there started to be some meaningful discussion of whether her bust was a problem right in the text of the comic story itself, to me that was relevant and courageous. Someone was standing up and saying, "unusual bodies exist and there is nothing wrong with having one." I went from, "ugh, another revamp of another cannon character," to "oh wow, an actual discussion of something important in the real world, let's see how this goes." While I am still not a fan of exaggerated female bodies, I have come to accept Powergirl as just what she claims to be, a woman who happens to have an unusually large set and isn't ashamed of that. I'm actually a fan because of her stance on the subject, and as a result, I'm over the "magnitude of her endowment."
A superhero should be recognizable at all angles, or even by shadow. When Batman looms over a criminal you can identify the bat ears right away. Power Girl has significant curves, and short blonde hair. I like the fact that artist would draw Supergirl differently than Power Girl or Nightwing from Batman. Maybe you should talk about the first bat silhouette or at least some of the best ones.
I heard the same thing about some guy who kept making them bigger until he was told to stop from a comic shop owner years back... so I guess there's truth to it....
Awesome. I like to know history and the real stories behind the characters themselves. Big thumbs up to casual comics and Ms. Wood
I'm glad I stumbled across this. Power Girl is one of my favorite characters (not just because of her chest/costume) and I'm happy to see some discourse around her.
You didn't go into her newer comics, Power Girl explained the situation. When she came over from earth 2 and met this earth's Super Man and realized how little he had to do with this earth's Super Girl. Compared with her relationship with her earth's Super Man and how close they were. She felt like she was missing a peace of herself, that thing that made her super, she had a hole in her heart, she was missing her family. She finally has a heart felt conversation with Super Man telling him that she feels like an outsider and something is missing from her. (Then she asks him to fill her hole.)
This is a follow-up video. She mentioned that in the original video.
Your channel is OUTSTANDING!
More POWER to you GIRL, do your thing
I absolutely lost it at you saying "The window, where is it? How will we look outside?" XD
Really appreciate these DC videos especially as I'm much more familiar with Marvel comics, so thank you!
Comic book characters are as diverse as real people. If real superheros existed, then at least one from them would probably look and dress just like power girl. Diversey is a good thing, encourage it!
@Conrad Ferrus That's not true at all. There's reason behind everything, even if you don't understand it. My point is that comic book characters are as diverse as people, because the ones writing and drawing them are just as diverse.
I agree with you broadly, but the nuance of having diversity without it being the focus is lost when you force everything to be explained.
I'm dead set against token characters, but if a characteristic is tertiary to the character instead of the focus, there's no explanation needed. It's only a problem when the character is horrifically shallow to start.
I'm 43 and have been reading comics since I was about 13. As a guy who loves super hero comics, I will often buy a comic that has a good pinup cover - as such I have bought a lot of comics featuring Power Girl over the years. The best story in my memory was the New 52 run which lasted 2-3 years (it's been a while). That comic told a cohesive story, had great art, and established her character a well. If they could make a comic like that continuously featuring Power Girl, they would have a customer for life.
Power Girl has always been one of my favorite characters and it's just good to have her get the attention she deserves. I mean, not always about her boobs, but you and Amanda Conner are right, they're a part of who she is. And if she suddenly looked like Kate Spencer (Manhunter), it'd be super weird. Yet both characters are awesome. It just takes all types.
*oops, misspelled Amanda Conner's name, and felt foolish*
Dennis C, I was just gonna comment on that! As Sasha informs us, after Wally Wood introduces the "window" and the size of Power girl's chest, then of course later artists are told to tone it down, until this initial run of the character in All-Star comics comes to an end in 1978. I don't know if much was even done with the character in the interim, but in 1989, Justice League Europe #1 premieres. P.G. is featured with a low-cut top---the window has not returned yet. But the way Bart Sears is drawing her, suddenly her chest is MUCH larger. I remember it was quite the controversy in the letters pages at the time. The diamond shaped window we're shown in the video is from the END of the Justice League Europe run. That may be the return of the "window," but the size of her---attributes---was amped up to about their modern proportions in issue #1. Wally Wood may have started it, but we have Bart Sears to either thank or blame for the way Power Girl is drawn now.
Ive always looked at Power Girl and yes during adolescence I was drawn to her overly accentuated chest, but I think its just become such a normal feature of the character that I find myself aware of it but not thinking about it. Like I just look at her picture and say yeah its Power Girl. This was honestly really good coverage on the character. Never come across your channel til now and I wish I had sooner. These are some bomb videos and topics.
"How will we look outside"...OMG! 🤣🤣🤣
Sasha I love your content. I had a friend who is an artist tell me that the artists were increasing the size as an inside joke.
I actually think She Hulk's are bigger, and you don't hear anybody complaining about her outfits and size. I sincerely doubt that PGs are larger than all female comics characters. And I am willing to do a detailed analysis of the subjects. Any suggestions on who could be bigger. Giganta, Ms. Thing, Volcana, Fire, all come to mind.
Even the “children’s” cartoon had the window and they created a whole new character which would have been a perfect opportunity to redesign the costume
Wasn’t there a time that the Invisible Woman had a window too.
Yup in the 90s when she went through that crisis after the stillbirth of her and Reed's daughter. It was shaped liked a 4.
Ahhh, that’s right.
Yep
A whole shaped like the number four doesn't make any sense. The cloth would flap open in spots so it wouldn't hold the shape with the numeral.
@@misterrea861 Anything's possible in a drawing.
Casually my middle school lunch table.
Great episode. To me the funny part about people talking about Power Girls outfit is that most of them missed the Legion of Super Heroes outfits from the same time period. Power Girl was lame compared to those outfits. Compare and contrast them. Now the Legion heroines probably wear very different things and Power girl is basically wearing the same costume.
They pulled me back in too
Gravity is proportional to mass.
Those boobs have their own gravitational pull.
I'm just surprised she's been able to keep her uniform and form with the planks of wood that Marvel and DC have been parading around these days.
I have a trio of favourite artists. Adam Hughes, Amanda Conner and Sam Basri. They really capture the PG I love.
You are very entertaining and a great storyteller. About this particular video, it's an interesting take that Power Girl was only drawn that way in order for Wood to draw attention to the fact that comic companies weren't paying attention to creators. Artists back then seemed to really get the shaft when you consider how little they were paid back then.
I'm definitely enjoying the content, so keep it coming. Can we get a few discussions about some indie comics, and maybe some more Marvel history?
This was way more interesting than I figured it’d be, really well done. Just subscribed, looking forward to more comic videos!
Thank you for staying abreast of this situation.
Bring Power Girl back, DC!
What happened to her character?
I just love that Wally's last name is WOOD. 😉
And, honestly, I'm a fan of Power Girls costume mastiffs.
LOL I love your videos Sasha. I'll watch anything you put out. I hope we get another Shippers Guide video soon too.
"The windows are gone, how will we look outside." Gold.
I figured the moment from The Brave and the Bold # 7: Scalpels and Chainsaws would be WAY more controversial. I mean, the lasso makes you tell the truth, and I would like to think that's where Snyder/Wheadon got the idea for the Aquaman joke in Justice League.
Keep up the great work with this content, I feel you have ample support from your fans, just like Power Girl.
Love it Sasha. Another great video and a discussion that I didn't know that I needed to have. 100% right about how everyone has their own perceptions of characters and how they look and act. All hail the queen of comics
Actually found the channel just today, watched only several clips but Im already surprised by the content, knowledge and montage. Keep it up :)
Power girl and other charters so underaded dc is not only batman ,superman dc have so many cool charters
The internet is gonna internet regardless of historical facts. Just keep doing what you do Sasha
It can come down to the artist in many cases. Costumes I didn't initially like look better when the right illustrator gets a hold of it (eg: Spider-Man 2099, Captain Marvel)
no sorry...very fun...loved how a disgruntled comic artist kinda sorta made the character(that we know and love) so iconic ... and tbh i never thought she looked exaggerated in bodily features... she looks like a chiseled greek goddess and a kickass... love hers and huntress' dynamic
This is one of the most important discussions in comics right now, only true men of culture & sophistication could possibly appreciate.
Don't stop! The tension is real and valid, MORE SO now than before!
Your personality makes these videos much more enjoyable than they might be otherwise.
Another excellent video and thorough analysis, Sasha. Your use of "Bigify" from 6:32 is now in my lexicon right up there with the Simpson's use of "Embiggens". A made up word you say? Why, I think it's a perfectly cromulent word. LOL! Thanks Sasha, these are the very silly, drunken conversations that my friends and I had twenty-five years ago over waaaay too many drinks at the end of the night.
I love Sash's out look on things. She accepts that people are different and like different things no matter what they are. Not all SJW.
Your power point that everyone has a different p.o.v. is so incredibly refreshing to hear. So many different persepctives being brought to bare er, bear, on this. Also that the artists would all have different motivations and reasons for portrayal. I would say that the window of opportunity hear is to realize that this particular issue has been much enlarged simply by the attention focused on it. In other words; the more attention; the larger, as in some kind of crazy Castenedas novel - the power of the nagual womans ring portal. Eventually a new CRISIS-style crossover reboot will be based solely on the Girl of Powers portal ring; and Darkseid will include it in his antilife equation.
Wally Wood... The man who made Power Girl bigger AND better.
It's one of those things that can't be undone. Changing her now would just draw more attention to the issue. So whether or not it's sexualized isn't the question. It was. The question is what do we do now? The character owns who she is and that's a good thing. At least it wasn't what Metal Gear Solid did and have a female character who "breaths through her skin" so needed to wear skimpy clothing.
Tbh, Quiet having to breath through her skin is one of the more tame insanities in the MGS series.
I'm glad there are people in DC defending her.
This channel brings me joy!
It is refreshing to see someone take a level headed, reasonable and engaging approach to this subject. I had been convinced this was a myth but you have shown evidence that it is not. What passed for big and over the line back then wouldn't move the needle now and the guy had some baggage and reputation coming in so he probably had people looking over his shoulder anyway.
What made me think it was a myth is that every other woman in her comic was drawn exactly the same way with the same sized bust IIRC, so it wasn't like she stood out in any way other than being the MC.
Still, bottom line is, I wish people would just be okay that she is busty and probably maybe the bustiest hero and that is part of her look and character. To change it or demand it be changed of ask why it isn't changed is just as silly as asking that Superman or Batman be drawn as skinny, or short, or chubby or any other body type. None of these people would do that, so I don't get why a woman with a big chest goes under such scrutiny and disdain just for existing.
Give her nothing less than G cups and let's go.
Oh Sasha, so happy to have found you again on this channel. I know you read the comments so I will ask....PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE...do a Reed Richards episode...I'm dying to know what is behind your beef with him and I'm sure many others are...I can taste the salty from here...lol Loving the channel.
I like how in the playlist, the video length thing is placed exactly over powergirl's chest.
Thanks for making the video I learned more than I ever knew about Power Girl watching your videos
It's all just a storm in a G-cup!
How do you feel about Cat Grant?
She was another DC character traditionally drawn with with a large bosom but was depicted as a very sexy character.
The comic art accentuated her cleavage (decolletage) and made quite a few jokes.
There was even a panel where Supergirl is staring at Cat Grant with her X-Ray vision because she detected "weird plastics" in her chest.
Tracy Scoggins portrayed Cat Grant on Lois & Clark and although I haven't watched any current Supergirl TV episodes, I did think it an interesting choice to cast Calista Flockhart.
Calista Flockhart is famous, especially from her Ally McBeal days, for having a very thin physic.
Calista Flockhart is an excellent actor but I wonder if it was a deliberate decision not to cast someone like Christina Hendricks, and actively refrain from that aspect of Cat Grant's comic book depiction.
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I do think it’s a bit lame to intentionally cast someone who doesn’t embody (no pun intended; okay, pun intended) a character’s look. To go in the opposite direction is just insulting, I think. Casting Calista Flockhart doesn’t make any sense to me. However, casting Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman, rather than someone as big-breasted as Lynda Carter is fine, since Gal’s body type isn’t a total 180 from Lynda’s; it’s just less breasty and more athletic.
@@timopper5488 That wasn’t my point at all.
I can’t think of many other mainstream female superhero or comic book characters where chest size is made a topic of discussion and part the character background like Power Girl and Cat Grant.
Artists over the years have changed the design of characters like Wonder Woman or Catwoman at will. They alternate between slim and athletic to athletic and voluptuous or somewhere in between without a large bust size being a point of contention in the comics and portrayals to the point where it is discussed in detail and even lampooned by the other characters within storylines.
With Power Girl and Cat Grant cleavage are the “Elephants in the room“
Not only does the reader and audience notice that Power Girl and Cat Grant have are large but they are almost always drawn to accentuate that attribute and has for the most part become a character trait as well as a physical trait. That doesn’t necessarily seem to be the case with other female characters.
Yes, the reader will notice if Wonder Woman gets a major physical re-design but it isn’t always necessarily addressed in the story.
Wonder Woman and Catwoman as well as almost every other major female character in comic books may have very often been depicted by an artist as having a large bust but I honestly can’t recall where that has been a constant topic of discussion like it is with Power Girl 👧🏼
I also think Calista Flockhart is a very good actor. I just found it humorous as it appears the production purposely chose to eliminate that physical trait from Cat Grant with an actor who is famously very very slim and considerably smaller. It's like Wolverine being 5 feet tall in comics but he is played by 6' foot 4" Hugh Jackman. They didn't go 5' 10" or 6" they went 6' 4". vast difference. Same with Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher. The Jack Reacher in the novels was written as being close to 7' feet tall. Tom Cruise is maybe 5' 6" lol
Could you review skimpy Wonder Women costume pictures, for plot content, of course.
Lol "the 2 things will become tied togather " your words not mine😂
Your enjoyment of this topic is refreshing
So THAT's what Jeanette Khan and Gerry Conway look like.
I'm happy Comicsgate is getting back to drawing comics like the 90s
Interesting. As a Marvel fan i've seen Power Girl, but i was completely unaware of her backstory.
7:15 the "a huge topic" hand gesture