The Liv clip where she's burning is currently the most watched clip from Raw this week. Although I suspect about half the people that watched it were hoping to see those shorts again
I know Rhea is meant to be the babyface here. But her not taking ANY responsibility for starting this beef with Liv by betraying and injuring her. And acting like Liv has no valid reason to hate her, is not exactly making her the most likeable character right now. Finn almost HAS to turn at Summerslam. They’ve set it up too much for it not to happen.
I really want these guys to go back and actually watch the Nicky Cross VHS again because they are absolutely missing the whole point of it. It shows her in costume giggling and laughing as she is told that they all lied and ignored her. They then show her out of costume, saying the same things and she is crying and then screams. It ABSOLUTLY tells you why she is there.
There were better ways for them to get that story beat across, not least her having a promo with her explaining that. Yknow, the exact thing that bo a Eric had, and the thing they are asking for. If the storytelling is being missed by people, it wasn't good storytelling
It's amazing how Punk seems to bring out the best in people. Seth and Drew have really benefited from this program. I mean when you really think about it even in AEW Punk had the most memorable feuds.
@@basimmicheal4371 drew will basically be buried and i'm 100% sure , big nose has no plans for him , he deserves to be the world champion after everything he's done.
@@DavidJ-v5n he will win the match and he will go automatically for the world title of damien priest . then punk vs seth will be the next feud for punk i believe
I was really irritated with a lot of things that happened on Raw. But my main isssue was the wyatt sicks not being on Sumerslam. Just gives the fans the impression, they’re not big time. Imagine they said the blood line was going to be on Raw instead of a ppv. I love the wyatts but let them talk in the vhs’s. I want to know why they’re there. Not just to get them to scream in a camera. Like I loved the Rowan one. Just wished they’d give them time so they could introduce the characters properly
When someone wrote in and asked about black wrestlers not getting strong booking - the guy on the right was like “I’m not sure if this is the forum to have this discussion” - but every week he whines about women representation and constantly takes up for all things women. Like ok we get it - you’re a girl’s girl.
Punk talks to the crowd like they're crowds from 15 years ago. He doesn't really seem to get the cadence that modern fans are used to. He speaks like he's talking over people who are all chatting and screaming over each other who are just desperately waiting to scream and chant when he stops talking for a second. Modern fans are waiting for you to finish your monologuing. He stops talking thinking that the crowd are desperate to cheer or boo but really the crowd is like "why'd you stop talking we're still listening to you"
Love listening to Luke missing the point of a storyline, Dan explaining it to him for 5 minutes, and Luke still just refusing to acknowledge that he isn't the smartest man to ever watch wrestling no matter how badly he wants to be.
I feel obligated to point out that a couple of weeks ago Liv said that her chasing Dom started as a way to get at Rhea, but she fell in love with him in the process. I don't know if I like that that is the story that they're telling, but it *is* the story that they're telling.
I'm really hoping it's a ruse. If not they're going in the wrong direction and that's sad. There's so much nuance that I'm reading too much into in this story that is waay more interesting than Liv being scorned.
The last time Punk, Drew and Seth were together was just before mania bc it was teased the punk would be the referee but ended up doing commentary thus starting this whole cycle of screwing drew
This was probably my least favourite Raw in some time. Ive really enjoyed the Punk/Drew feud, but this was definitely an off night for Punk. With Summerslam coming up it was a very disappointing show. I’m here for babyface Damage CTRL though.
It was hardly dead. Dead would be zero reaction to Punk when he came out there would be no Punk chants. It was definitely not as active as other places, I will give you that.
They handicapped the feud because “neither guy can lay a finger on any other participant” so the fans know that no action is going to break out anyway. They kind of tuned out.
I WAS excited for Punk v Drew but having Freddy Mercury as a ref ruined what could of been match of the year. Of he came out with a ref striped strap-on on his head I wouldn't be suprised and I don't think that the stain he leaves on this match is worth what they are trying to get over.
Why are we describing Bron Breakker as “cute”? That’s over the top effeminate. Is this coding or are you trying to communicate that you’re “totally not a toxic male” in an indirect way?
I'm stealing, "turn off the internet, this is your friend talking to you" - thank you dan
Let's be honest lukes idea of a great wrestling match is an hour long heatless banger, and then finding out from Dave Meltzer why it's good
The Liv clip where she's burning is currently the most watched clip from Raw this week. Although I suspect about half the people that watched it were hoping to see those shorts again
I know Rhea is meant to be the babyface here. But her not taking ANY responsibility for starting this beef with Liv by betraying and injuring her. And acting like Liv has no valid reason to hate her, is not exactly making her the most likeable character right now.
Finn almost HAS to turn at Summerslam. They’ve set it up too much for it not to happen.
I also think Punk just isn’t used to casual crowds who don’t pay attention yet
That pommel horse gymmast won an olympic medal for his whole team, let him celebrate
I really want these guys to go back and actually watch the Nicky Cross VHS again because they are absolutely missing the whole point of it. It shows her in costume giggling and laughing as she is told that they all lied and ignored her. They then show her out of costume, saying the same things and she is crying and then screams. It ABSOLUTLY tells you why she is there.
There were better ways for them to get that story beat across, not least her having a promo with her explaining that. Yknow, the exact thing that bo a Eric had, and the thing they are asking for. If the storytelling is being missed by people, it wasn't good storytelling
It's amazing how Punk seems to bring out the best in people. Seth and Drew have really benefited from this program. I mean when you really think about it even in AEW Punk had the most memorable feuds.
@@IfoundMyMarblesXOXO drew has benefited the most . he became the biggest heel and the most interesting one in the whole company as a heel
@@basimmicheal4371 drew will basically be buried and i'm 100% sure , big nose has no plans for him , he deserves to be the world champion after everything he's done.
@@DavidJ-v5n he will win the match and he will go automatically for the world title of damien priest . then punk vs seth will be the next feud for punk i believe
@@basimmicheal4371 I highly doubt it would happen, I don't want to see another 666 days of gunther being world champion.
I'm glad the Magnums that Pete brought the boys were those and not the other kind.
Crowd was dead af
Fr CM Punk was struggling to get them to chant his name
Great review
I was really irritated with a lot of things that happened on Raw. But my main isssue was the wyatt sicks not being on Sumerslam. Just gives the fans the impression, they’re not big time. Imagine they said the blood line was going to be on Raw instead of a ppv. I love the wyatts but let them talk in the vhs’s. I want to know why they’re there. Not just to get them to scream in a camera. Like I loved the Rowan one. Just wished they’d give them time so they could introduce the characters properly
When someone wrote in and asked about black wrestlers not getting strong booking - the guy on the right was like “I’m not sure if this is the forum to have this discussion” - but every week he whines about women representation and constantly takes up for all things women. Like ok we get it - you’re a girl’s girl.
Dan is wrong
the damian priest build up reminds me of rocky iv
Basically to use the GM Mode analogy everything is at level 4 and people just want it paid off at the PLE now
This is a review show so it's great when you have 2 people offering different takes.
Punk talks to the crowd like they're crowds from 15 years ago. He doesn't really seem to get the cadence that modern fans are used to.
He speaks like he's talking over people who are all chatting and screaming over each other who are just desperately waiting to scream and chant when he stops talking for a second.
Modern fans are waiting for you to finish your monologuing. He stops talking thinking that the crowd are desperate to cheer or boo but really the crowd is like "why'd you stop talking we're still listening to you"
I'm not the only one who doesn't skip the intro theme?
It's certainly the best feud of the year in any American promotion.
As an American we don’t think 31 degrees is hot because we use Fahrenheit - and 31 Fahrenheit is winter weather
Love listening to Luke missing the point of a storyline, Dan explaining it to him for 5 minutes, and Luke still just refusing to acknowledge that he isn't the smartest man to ever watch wrestling no matter how badly he wants to be.
I feel obligated to point out that a couple of weeks ago Liv said that her chasing Dom started as a way to get at Rhea, but she fell in love with him in the process. I don't know if I like that that is the story that they're telling, but it *is* the story that they're telling.
I'm really hoping it's a ruse. If not they're going in the wrong direction and that's sad.
There's so much nuance that I'm reading too much into in this story that is waay more interesting than Liv being scorned.
The last time Punk, Drew and Seth were together was just before mania bc it was teased the punk would be the referee but ended up doing commentary thus starting this whole cycle of screwing drew
Dan. You can call em the SZS because
Shayna Zoey Sonya
To me the punk and drew segment was like a re cap it felt like here are the stakes and this is why these guys hate each other
Smells like they'll do the Summerslam 97 spot but it'll be a near fall only.
on smackdown hotel Damage CRT are still heels, the Wyatts are Tweeners
crazy to think any building in a 1st world country doesn't have ac in 2024
all this just to bury drew
Finger Bang Bang Gang.
But I digress… Dan needs at least some kind of regularly aired Mark Markerson video!
Absolutely nothing wrong with a 3 hour show and only one segment with the women?
these mfs havent even wrestled each other 😂
Drew vs Punk is the real main event of summer slam
Gable and Alpha Academy is a stale feud in MyGm mode. The feud is going down every week by 1 because Wwe missed their chance to blow it off
British people complaining about 80 degree weather is SWAFT, it’s 98 degrees in florida
Nah. Punk hasn’t done anything in ring. It’s all just Drew. I have no desire to see them actually wrestle if that makes sense?
It doesn't because in order for a wrestling feud to matter there needs to be a match
@@brentsmith9134that’s why it makes sense.. I don’t want to see them wrestle. That’s the point.
I love the narrative AEW has a killer match “ Match of the Year “ . WWE has a killer feud “ WWE’s feud of the year “ 2024 and still this…
Don’t rlly understand what you’re getting at?
@@funkyrumble0455I think that aew has the best matches while WWE has the best feuds (story).
Best matches incorporate character investment and story to elevate the in ring work. Even the best fueds in aew used to do this
This was probably my least favourite Raw in some time.
Ive really enjoyed the Punk/Drew feud, but this was definitely an off night for Punk. With Summerslam coming up it was a very disappointing show. I’m here for babyface Damage CTRL though.
53:29 I’ve taken to calling them The Stud-line, “Stud” being a term for masculine(usually blacc) lesbians
The place was dead for Punk maybe they realize he just doesn’t have it anymore
Well, he's not really in his prime. His promos don't hit like they used to because of it.
That’s not thinly veiled aew tribalism at all…😂
It was hardly dead. Dead would be zero reaction to Punk when he came out there would be no Punk chants. It was definitely not as active as other places, I will give you that.
@@BB-ed4om yall don’t understand the difference between criticism and tribalism but that’s okay you’ll learn 👍
@@yurlpIt’s criticism when it’s about WWE and tribalism when it’s about AEW. I’ve been on the internet. I know the double standard.
I hate these you can't touch each other or the match won't happen.. rules that's why these segments don't work for me
They handicapped the feud because “neither guy can lay a finger on any other participant” so the fans know that no action is going to break out anyway. They kind of tuned out.
scrap "wwe" from the title, you know you want to 😅
I WAS excited for Punk v Drew but having Freddy Mercury as a ref ruined what could of been match of the year. Of he came out with a ref striped strap-on on his head I wouldn't be suprised and I don't think that the stain he leaves on this match is worth what they are trying to get over.
Why are we describing Bron Breakker as “cute”? That’s over the top effeminate. Is this coding or are you trying to communicate that you’re “totally not a toxic male” in an indirect way?
Womp womp
You're actually just yapping