Garmin has a huge amount of customisation and Information available, but at the end of the day most people will not use 80% of the features available on the Garmin...or even understand the metrics. I am from NZ..we have an extremely variable climate, and very rugged terrain. Design, simplicity, ease of use , battery life and build quality are super important..and that's where the vertical wins out for me. All the the extra stuff you can get on the Garmin...is just nice to have. That's it.. When you are in the middle of nowhere and the elements are not in your favour and you need a tool watch, simpler is sometimes better. Cheers from NZ
Ambit 3 peak and now suunto 9 baro titanium. Dificult to upgrade with the current suunto options but hard core brand fan. Garmin is very attractive choice as well as Coros. As I get older reliabitiy is becoming a factor. Thanks for your video. Cheers from México.
Since the Suunto Vertical firmware updates of late, it would be interesting to hear your take on the differences again… The Vertical now offers more customisation of the menus/widgets, HRV analysis and a snappier interface, to mention some. I do appreciate that GARMIN offers everything, but how much of that do you actually need? Keep up the good work!
Yes it's a big step up for Suunto but definitely doesn't off the extent of what Garmin does - I didn't even get into the differences on specialty sport profiles and advanced aspects there (golfing/skiing/MTB/surfing/etc). Thanks!
Garmin's understanding of accelerometer movements are far ahead of Sunnto's. this applies to Swimming Strokes recognition, Steps counting and possibly other areas im not considering here. Also the ability to create custom swimming workouts, adding drill lengths etc does not exist on any suunto products. Running & Trail Running they are probably very similar, I had great gps tracks with Suunto S9Peak, so I imagine the GPS Tracks for the Vertical with its multiband should be equal to Fenix 7's Multiband tracks. there are many nuances where Garmins just excel e.g not limited too: Ability to store multiple Sensors, Ant+ and Bluetooth smart, connecting to other machines via watch (concept 2 PM5) lots of Bike Trainers etc.
I have Both the Suunoto and Garmin , although different versions ( Transverse / Garmin Fenix 7 ). I can tell you right now , given the choice of the GPS accuracy and widgets , there is no comparison . I did Ski Patrol for seven years volunteer out west in BC , not one single member of our teams ever yelled to another ( OMG, you know , just when i needed a widget to tell me how many steps until I hit the next Starbucks shack was ever uttered ) Please , add-on's for people who are add-on's ! Suunoto wins if I need to place myself within 2-3 meters of exact positions, Garmin , definitely has a better resolution and tracks better than a bread crumb trail, also response time for accurate heart rates and blood oxygen levels are good with the Garmin. Again, highly useless compared to the equipment we carried but hey . "I tell you I climbed Mount Everest , with only this watch and a roll of duct-tape ", "please". LOL ...
For me, Suunto usually wins because I prefer long battery life and cheap price. Other than that, the watch must have accurate GPS. HR does not have to be accurate as I have a chest sensor. Everything beyond this (in terms of software) I don't really need.
I think you are spot on these differences. Suunto should copy some Garmin training readiness etc. features and maybe Garmin also could update their layout for all the data they offer (and maybe take a look what Suunto is doing on that. AND make an option on the app to change the backround to white, when on my opinion it's much more easier to read) 😅 Other thing, could you please help me with one thing? 😅 Your battery on Vertical seems to be running out. My Vertical, when battery is low, like under 10%, it seems to stop vibrating on alarms or anything else that should be vibrating. When charged, it starts to work again. No battery saving mode is on, restart doesn't help... Would it be possible you to test, does your Vertical still vibrate (if you still have 7% battery left)? 😅😂 missed an alarm alredy twice because of this 🤬 and wondering is it another bug or is it just my watch...
So sorry I didn't get notified of this comment and just now seeing it! You've probably figured out a solution by now, but unfortunately can't help either - I didn't test for those things before sending back - sorry! Totally agree about them mimicking garmins approach in a number of ways
I am happy to get back to suunto after around 10 years with a boring and unintuitive Garmin Descent Mk1, but I discover with bad surprise there is still not a GPS navigation functionnality ! (navigation, not a straight virtual line). when I wished to change route to come back, I selected "Return to start" and either - make the same route back - or navigate : fastest, shortest, with or without trails - then just follow the watch just like you car GPS does. Still not available on Suunto Race or Vertical ???? Here I'm somehow disapointed.....
I also think that Garmin Fenix 7's screen is too dark to read. I know it is a MIP screen, but I think the brightness of Fenix 7 is the same as my Fenix 3.
The Suunto can do the laptime and autolap time at the same time. When I ask a garmin's fan about this they pretend to be stupid and say it is not important. In The Garmin, during running u push a lap time the autolap measure from that laptime. What an idiot thing is this. Shame of the Garmin. learn from Suunto a little bit. But they can count ur paratroops jumps. Congratulation. OMG.
One watch leads the race with an array of top-of-the-line features, while the other falls behind like a donkey compared to a well-trained racehorse. The former glows with a sleek user interface, detailed mapping, precise heart rate monitoring, seamless app integration, stand-alone music playback, and thorough training and HRV analysis. On the other hand, the latter shows clear drawbacks. It's evident that Suunto will likely appeal to only the most loyal fans or those in Finland who overlook its deficiencies.
I think once you get outside the US suunto has better following in Europe people like the design and build quality of suunto watches which were not mentioned in this review but suunto is light years ahead of Garmin in this area. Seems how many new features a watch can have is more important in the US
@@Ivesy85 interesting thought! The look may have slightly more European look to it, which I agree may be the appeal outside of the US! I like the overall appearance more than the Fenix. But the build quality is the same as the Fenix line in broad terms. Suunto didn't opt for a true military rating durability like Garmin that I could find, but I'm sure w the regional differences it's equally as strong. And in my Full Review I mentioned the build quality of the vertical as the first item of what I loved about it, in addition it was the first thing mentioned in summary about it!
Most of the video is about how did you sleep, those watches are for outdoor people not dude that run after work, from other watches they differ with grate GPS, maps and battery life. If you whant your wach just to track your training , you have to be mad to spend that kind of money for watch! About solar if you don't work outside as a mountain guide how can you test it? in your office?
naw. i'm actually interested in a really good gps watch for the outdoors but also my sleep and heart rate tracking. i already have a polar for training with chest strap but i'd rather just buy one very nice watch that can do both than two mediocre ones. buy nice or buy twice.
Good day, I have not been able to solve this question with these watches. Which one generates rain alert notifications better and does not depend so much on the phone or which one do you recommend for these rain notifications that has an altimeter and receives phone notifications such as calls and messages?
Hey! Both receive text/call notifications. And I'm not sure about rain alerts honestly. I know Garmin has a great weather widget but it doesn't automatically alert you of rain, and I don't believe Suunto does either, but I didn't research it. Sorry!
Hola estaba buscando una comparativa como esta pero he de decir que para ser sincero no me sirvió porque creo que depende de lo que busques en ellos te será util o no, me refiero que no se habla de aspectos importantes para mi, como la carga solar, como funciona realmente en uno y otro, la batería en una prueba real, la precision del gps, la precision de los mapas, las alertas de detección de lluvias( que su unto si tiene), como funciona la brújula y su precisión, el barómetro y demás sensores. Te agradezco tu comparación y tu trabajo pero creo que estos relojes se enfocan a la aventura, a las carreras largas, a la montaña alpinismo escalada......y no solo a su utilización diaria como cualquier banda o similar.Yo creo que se deberia hacer un anailis mas profundo de otras cosas. Pero ante todo gracias por tu trabajo eso que quede claro pero sigo con las mismas dudas sobre el verdadero potencial. a demásá hay una cosa sobre garmin que no me gusta y es que da muchiiiisimos parámetros pero me gustaria saber a cuanta gente le da por mirar tanatas cosas, yo corro ultras y monto en bici y al final siempre utilizo los mismos 4 parámetros, no quiero decir que este mal tenerlos pero de verdad miras todos los dias que tal duermes por horas, y su profundidad y tal? respecto a los entrenamientos garmin es mejor eso deguro pero para entrenos de gente muy profesional a los demás creo que nos sobran la mitad de las cosas incluso llega a confundirnos. Solo queria dejar esta reflexión por mi parte, y madar un saludo Hello, I was looking for a comparison like this but I have to say that to be honest it did not help me because I think it depends on what you are looking for in them whether it will be useful or not, I mean that they do not talk about important aspects for me, such as solar charging , how it really works in one and the other, the battery in a real test, the accuracy of the GPS, the accuracy of the maps, the rain detection alerts (which your unit does have), how the compass works and its accuracy, the barometer and other sensors. I appreciate your comparison and your work but I think that these watches are focused on adventure, long runs, mountain climbing......and not just for daily use like any band or similar. I think that A deeper analysis of other things should be done. But first of all, thank you for your work, that is clear, but I still have the same doubts about the true potential. Furthermore, there is one thing about Garmin that I don't like and that is that it gives a lot of parameters but I would like to know how many people look at so many things, I run ultras and ride a bike and in the end I always use the same 4 parameters, I don't want to To say that it is bad to have them, but do you really look every day at how you sleep for hours, and its depth and such? Regarding Garmin training, I'm sure that's better, but for the training of very professional people, I think the rest of us have half of the things left over and it even confuses us.
Dude - you can't do a side by side comparison only referring to each one as "THIS has such a capability while THIS has a different capability" - THIS=which one? Not cool.
Love my garmin fenix 7 pro. They have so much customization and I can receive workouts from trainers. I like seeing many different things about my running, v02 max, resting heart rate etc etc. The watch gives many running statics and race predictors. O can also add gear (shoes bike etc) and track how many miles are on my equipment. Suunto does not have that. Gps is very accurate. I much prefer garmin. The watch is also very tough. I can pull up the radar, I use my golf app etc. None of those features are in the suunto. Garmin just wins hands down.
Am I the only one to find it disgraceful for Suunto to be this laggy and buggy for this price range?! I wouldn't even go into further testing after seing that big difference in basic functioning.
I agree, but more so on things like watch faces, and overall price in general given the market. I didn't find it to be too disturbing w laggy-ness personally tho!
if the suunto genius's watch this they should be embarrassed and tail should immediately go between the legs..... how is suunto soooo popular when they are soooo far behind?????
Garmin has a huge amount of customisation and Information available, but at the end of the day most people will not use 80% of the features available on the Garmin...or even understand the metrics.
I am from NZ..we have an extremely variable climate, and very rugged terrain.
Design, simplicity, ease of use , battery life and build quality are super important..and that's where the vertical wins out for me.
All the the extra stuff you can get on the Garmin...is just nice to have.
That's it..
When you are in the middle of nowhere and the elements are not in your favour and you need a tool watch, simpler is sometimes better.
Cheers from NZ
Ambit 3 peak and now suunto 9 baro titanium. Dificult to upgrade with the current suunto options but hard core brand fan. Garmin is very attractive choice as well as Coros. As I get older reliabitiy is becoming a factor. Thanks for your video. Cheers from México.
For me as a 100mile runner chooseing Suunto Vertical is a no-brainer , that i dont need to recharge my watch is a huge thing while im at 50hour+ race
Or in a mountain expedition or canoeing trip that last for more than 10 days ....my pick is Casio rangeman.....the old one
Year 2023,I'm still used garmin fenix 5x plus,.
Nice! It's a beast and will outlast us all
Same using fenix 5x since 2018 and even though I want a new one mine is still working just as new.
mines finally ended today,the bottom right button gone so weighing up options
Since the Suunto Vertical firmware updates of late, it would be interesting to hear your take on the differences again…
The Vertical now offers more customisation of the menus/widgets, HRV analysis and a snappier interface, to mention some.
I do appreciate that GARMIN offers everything, but how much of that do you actually need?
Keep up the good work!
I agree I have the race, epix gen2 and the ultra. The race has won me over
@@Littkickks could you elaborate on that? Why did you choose the race over the others?
I have the Ambit 3 peak and I so wanted the Vertical to be the new upgrade. But it looks like the 7X just for the better maps.
Yes it's a big step up for Suunto but definitely doesn't off the extent of what Garmin does - I didn't even get into the differences on specialty sport profiles and advanced aspects there (golfing/skiing/MTB/surfing/etc). Thanks!
Garmin's understanding of accelerometer movements are far ahead of Sunnto's. this applies to Swimming Strokes recognition, Steps counting and possibly other areas im not considering here. Also the ability to create custom swimming workouts, adding drill lengths etc does not exist on any suunto products. Running & Trail Running they are probably very similar, I had great gps tracks with Suunto S9Peak, so I imagine the GPS Tracks for the Vertical with its multiband should be equal to Fenix 7's Multiband tracks. there are many nuances where Garmins just excel
e.g not limited too:
Ability to store multiple Sensors,
Ant+ and Bluetooth smart,
connecting to other machines via watch (concept 2 PM5) lots of Bike Trainers etc.
Awesome information! Thank you so much for sharing. I completely agree all around.
Thanks for info about swimming...one of my favorite sport
I have Both the Suunoto and Garmin , although different versions ( Transverse / Garmin Fenix 7 ). I can tell you right now , given the choice of the GPS accuracy and widgets , there is no comparison . I did Ski Patrol for seven years volunteer out west in BC , not one single member of our teams ever yelled to another ( OMG, you know , just when i needed a widget to tell me how many steps until I hit the next Starbucks shack was ever uttered ) Please , add-on's for people who are add-on's ! Suunoto wins if I need to place myself within 2-3 meters of exact positions, Garmin , definitely has a better resolution and tracks better than a bread crumb trail, also response time for accurate heart rates and blood oxygen levels are good with the Garmin. Again, highly useless compared to the equipment we carried but hey . "I tell you I climbed Mount Everest , with only this watch and a roll of duct-tape ", "please". LOL ...
For me, Suunto usually wins because I prefer long battery life and cheap price.
Other than that, the watch must have accurate GPS. HR does not have to be accurate as I have a chest sensor. Everything beyond this (in terms of software) I don't really need.
I think you are spot on these differences. Suunto should copy some Garmin training readiness etc. features and maybe Garmin also could update their layout for all the data they offer (and maybe take a look what Suunto is doing on that. AND make an option on the app to change the backround to white, when on my opinion it's much more easier to read) 😅
Other thing, could you please help me with one thing? 😅 Your battery on Vertical seems to be running out. My Vertical, when battery is low, like under 10%, it seems to stop vibrating on alarms or anything else that should be vibrating. When charged, it starts to work again. No battery saving mode is on, restart doesn't help... Would it be possible you to test, does your Vertical still vibrate (if you still have 7% battery left)? 😅😂 missed an alarm alredy twice because of this 🤬 and wondering is it another bug or is it just my watch...
So sorry I didn't get notified of this comment and just now seeing it! You've probably figured out a solution by now, but unfortunately can't help either - I didn't test for those things before sending back - sorry! Totally agree about them mimicking garmins approach in a number of ways
The Suunto also looks cooler. Garmin needs to update its look.
Yes it does have a new, fresher look! Completely agree there
Right?! The suuntos just look better, both hardware and software
Garmin the best
I am happy to get back to suunto after around 10 years with a boring and unintuitive Garmin Descent Mk1, but I discover with bad surprise there is still not a GPS navigation functionnality ! (navigation, not a straight virtual line). when I wished to change route to come back, I selected "Return to start" and either - make the same route back - or navigate : fastest, shortest, with or without trails - then just follow the watch just like you car GPS does.
Still not available on Suunto Race or Vertical ???? Here I'm somehow disapointed.....
I also think that Garmin Fenix 7's screen is too dark to read. I know it is a MIP screen, but I think the brightness of Fenix 7 is the same as my Fenix 3.
The Suunto can do the laptime and autolap time at the same time. When I ask a garmin's fan about this they pretend to be stupid and say it is not important. In The Garmin, during running u push a lap time the autolap measure from that laptime. What an idiot thing is this. Shame of the Garmin. learn from Suunto a little bit. But they can count ur paratroops jumps. Congratulation. OMG.
The best comment
Minimal : Suunto : Nokia
Maximum : Garmin : Android
Can you have music saved on Suunto and listen without phone?
Bagus suunto apa garmin di video?
Dan akurat yang mana
aku bingung ingin membeli suunto atau garmin
One watch leads the race with an array of top-of-the-line features, while the other falls behind like a donkey compared to a well-trained racehorse. The former glows with a sleek user interface, detailed mapping, precise heart rate monitoring, seamless app integration, stand-alone music playback, and thorough training and HRV analysis. On the other hand, the latter shows clear drawbacks. It's evident that Suunto will likely appeal to only the most loyal fans or those in Finland who overlook its deficiencies.
Haha powerful comment! Well said. Thanks!
I think once you get outside the US suunto has better following in Europe people like the design and build quality of suunto watches which were not mentioned in this review but suunto is light years ahead of Garmin in this area. Seems how many new features a watch can have is more important in the US
@@Ivesy85 interesting thought! The look may have slightly more European look to it, which I agree may be the appeal outside of the US! I like the overall appearance more than the Fenix. But the build quality is the same as the Fenix line in broad terms. Suunto didn't opt for a true military rating durability like Garmin that I could find, but I'm sure w the regional differences it's equally as strong. And in my Full Review I mentioned the build quality of the vertical as the first item of what I loved about it, in addition it was the first thing mentioned in summary about it!
@@fitgearhunter
Hello!
How did you feel Suunto Vertical?
Better Garmin Enduro 2?
Please let me know 🙏
@@tumaitis1 sure thing - Garmin is better and more complete all around on any of the higher watches!
The big question is, how accurate is the Garmin sensors compared to the Suunto?
8 million times more accurate
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Better buy Suunto vertical titan solar or fenix 7 pro for now ?
For me I prefer Suunto
Most of the video is about how did you sleep, those watches are for outdoor people not dude that run after work, from other watches they differ with grate GPS, maps and battery life. If you whant your wach just to track your training , you have to be mad to spend that kind of money for watch! About solar if you don't work outside as a mountain guide how can you test it? in your office?
naw. i'm actually interested in a really good gps watch for the outdoors but also my sleep and heart rate tracking. i already have a polar for training with chest strap but i'd rather just buy one very nice watch that can do both than two mediocre ones. buy nice or buy twice.
Good day, I have not been able to solve this question with these watches. Which one generates rain alert notifications better and does not depend so much on the phone or which one do you recommend for these rain notifications that has an altimeter and receives phone notifications such as calls and messages?
Hey! Both receive text/call notifications. And I'm not sure about rain alerts honestly. I know Garmin has a great weather widget but it doesn't automatically alert you of rain, and I don't believe Suunto does either, but I didn't research it. Sorry!
I wear a Casio rangeman and the grafic of variation of the barometric pressure works great
Suunto has a storm alarm.
Garmin too
Hola estaba buscando una comparativa como esta pero he de decir que para ser sincero no me sirvió porque creo que depende de lo que busques en ellos te será util o no, me refiero que no se habla de aspectos importantes para mi, como la carga solar, como funciona realmente en uno y otro, la batería en una prueba real, la precision del gps, la precision de los mapas, las alertas de detección de lluvias( que su unto si tiene), como funciona la brújula y su precisión, el barómetro y demás sensores. Te agradezco tu comparación y tu trabajo pero creo que estos relojes se enfocan a la aventura, a las carreras largas, a la montaña alpinismo escalada......y no solo a su utilización diaria como cualquier banda o similar.Yo creo que se deberia hacer un anailis mas profundo de otras cosas. Pero ante todo gracias por tu trabajo eso que quede claro pero sigo con las mismas dudas sobre el verdadero potencial. a demásá hay una cosa sobre garmin que no me gusta y es que da muchiiiisimos parámetros pero me gustaria saber a cuanta gente le da por mirar tanatas cosas, yo corro ultras y monto en bici y al final siempre utilizo los mismos 4 parámetros, no quiero decir que este mal tenerlos pero de verdad miras todos los dias que tal duermes por horas, y su profundidad y tal? respecto a los entrenamientos garmin es mejor eso deguro pero para entrenos de gente muy profesional a los demás creo que nos sobran la mitad de las cosas incluso llega a confundirnos.
Solo queria dejar esta reflexión por mi parte, y madar un saludo
Hello, I was looking for a comparison like this but I have to say that to be honest it did not help me because I think it depends on what you are looking for in them whether it will be useful or not, I mean that they do not talk about important aspects for me, such as solar charging , how it really works in one and the other, the battery in a real test, the accuracy of the GPS, the accuracy of the maps, the rain detection alerts (which your unit does have), how the compass works and its accuracy, the barometer and other sensors. I appreciate your comparison and your work but I think that these watches are focused on adventure, long runs, mountain climbing......and not just for daily use like any band or similar. I think that A deeper analysis of other things should be done. But first of all, thank you for your work, that is clear, but I still have the same doubts about the true potential. Furthermore, there is one thing about Garmin that I don't like and that is that it gives a lot of parameters but I would like to know how many people look at so many things, I run ultras and ride a bike and in the end I always use the same 4 parameters, I don't want to To say that it is bad to have them, but do you really look every day at how you sleep for hours, and its depth and such? Regarding Garmin training, I'm sure that's better, but for the training of very professional people, I think the rest of us have half of the things left over and it even confuses us.
, how did you get the bottom chart to show the Alt on the suunto. Mine just wants to show solar chart
I think if you bought the titanium Solar that's your only option unfortunately. Sorry!
@@fitgearhunter yes think your right, suunto came out with a nice watch but they need to step up there game with the watch faces!
@@robsilv148 yes for sure!
Dude - you can't do a side by side comparison only referring to each one as "THIS has such a capability while THIS has a different capability" - THIS=which one? Not cool.
Veo que el suunto no te muestra el estatus de HRV
I see that the suunto does not show you the HRV status
No it doesn't! Doesn't take the reading.
Solved. HRV included in last update.
İ love garmin❤
Suunto has a cooler design
Love my garmin fenix 7 pro. They have so much customization and I can receive workouts from trainers. I like seeing many different things about my running, v02 max, resting heart rate etc etc. The watch gives many running statics and race predictors. O can also add gear (shoes bike etc) and track how many miles are on my equipment. Suunto does not have that. Gps is very accurate. I much prefer garmin. The watch is also very tough.
I can pull up the radar, I use my golf app etc. None of those features are in the suunto. Garmin just wins hands down.
Am I the only one to find it disgraceful for Suunto to be this laggy and buggy for this price range?! I wouldn't even go into further testing after seing that big difference in basic functioning.
I agree, but more so on things like watch faces, and overall price in general given the market. I didn't find it to be too disturbing w laggy-ness personally tho!
Just make an soft reset, than there are no Lags👍
if the suunto genius's watch this they should be embarrassed and tail should immediately go between the legs..... how is suunto soooo popular when they are soooo far behind?????
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