Analogman King of tone VS LY-ROCK King of tone (Clone) The Best clone of King of tone
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- First of all, I apologize for the optical 1 to 1 copy, that was not my intention.
I actually wanted to order a 68 Pedals King of clone (on Ebay) again, but then this pedal came and the sound blew me away - it also sounds like the feeling when playing.
So far the best King of tone clone for me.
LY-ROCK has more gain compression and a little brighter prominent mid.
Why I always have an EQ on my board.
I think the dipswitches does nothing at all.
It sounds the same in all position.
From this video, the ly-rock felt ever so slightly more compressed than the original. But I kind of prefer it more compressed, so...
Just got mine today and tried it out for about half an hour and it great!! I’ve never played a KoT but this sounds just like the one in your video demo and the other KoT demos I’ve seen. Haven’t fiddled with the dip switches inside yet, but did open it open to see how it was set From factory (right side boost, left side OD). Really digging the OD and it stacked with the boost. Thanks for the demo man!
I received mine a couple of days ago and nothing to complain about for now!. It just came with the same alternative setting (Clean on the right channel and OD on the yellow one). I think I prefer the normal factory setting (the opposite). Very good pedal, regardless of wheter it´s similar or not to the original!
I think you have the channels backward... red side comes from AnalogMan as OD and yellow is clean boost. When you look at the back side and can read the writing on the switches right side up, the channels are reversed compared to the front side.
Really great, informative demo, and decent playing. Thank you very much, with respect!
I ordered one after watching this video, soon will compare it with our original. Definitely more compressed but could be more my taste
Awesome. Looks like the LY Rock pedal is very close to the original KOT... Just need a little gain up to be in the same sound.. but still been awesome, cheaper and it arrives sooner LOL
I wouldn't apologize for the one-to-one clone, Analog.man Mike has no one to blame but himself for letting his list get away from him so that people have to spend $1000 now or wait for up to 5 years (if ever) ~ Besides, it's obvious that the same people making Analog.man Prince of Tone pedals in China for Mike are making these, probably just trying to make a living wage : )
Not to be pedantic, but the PoT are made by a small workshop in Japan employed by Mike called Amaze
@@imgonnagetbanned Wouldn't be the first time a Japanese "entrepeneur" sub-contracted out to China to max profits ~ The US/EU learned it from them!
@@badgeswhatbadges9527 in any case, I’ve got one of these LY-Rocks (and have owned a real one for about 8 years), and it is IDENTICAL. Scarily so
Cheers for sharing this video..! KoT all the way for me, But I follow the science..! 👍🍻🇺🇸
Next please making a review of Ly rock distortion ceres clone
Can the clone run on 18V power like the KoT v4? Mainly the capacitors have to be rated for at least 25V to handle 18V power. It gives a less compressed / higher headroom sound. Also higher max volume.
Yes, you can run it at 18 V without any problems.
2:01 original
2:19 clone
Nice playing. I like your taste in what you choose to play! Nice Prince riff. Another Girl Another planet!
Damn that LP sounds good. Hardly any difference in the pedals to my ears.
OMG rockin' that Andy Timmons on a Gibson and not through a BB preamp and Charlie Brown!
It's simple, the original has more headroom and dynamics, which are the differentiators when you make pedals with high quality components.
@@diaosuarez1748 Unfortunately, I can't confirm that. In the blind test, it was impossible to guess which one was the original.
Hello,
I just received mine for a second pedalboard (less flashy, frequent steal during session), and it's an exact sound and feel copy it's crazy if you consider one thing for me the both high gain version of ly-rock equal the standard original one.
what do you mean by "for me the both high gain version of ly-rock equal the standard original one"?
Hi ,some people says that the original high gain version have not the same sound /dynamic that the standard one. i have a standard one so i buy the high gain from ly-rock to compare and it's the same there is just more gain if you want ,gain at 1 o'clock on high gain equal gain at 3 o'clock on standard one .
So I recommend high gain version ,you have more if you need , the standard not.
@chaud patate cool thanks. I wasn't sure if you meant that this clone had lower gain than the original, at the same configuration and settings.
Yeah ,sorry for my poor english.
@chaud patate no problem, thanks for your info and your quick replies.
My frien i got my 69 King of clone from Ebay from a selle with the sane name, few months ago but, apparently he is not more on Ebay. Where i can get one of those?? I could not get it fron Alliexpres either, at least from Ly Rock
Irs has dip switches inside actually does all the mods built in
In the picture of the analog man pedal I see 2 inputs and 2 outputs . Why is that? Every other pic I've seen of the actual ped has only 1 input and 1 output
@@Samiam-xh1ei this is for a Stereo Setup
8:54 Andy Timmons. Awesome demo!
is it v4?
Yes
Awesome!! Which version did you get? The high gain right side?
Thank you
I have both sides highgain.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 thanks man! Just ordered mine with both sides high gain 👍🏾 I’ll let you know how it turns out 🧐
So you can choose how you want it? Do you have a link to where you ordered the pedal?
@@6strung21 i am also confused. can't it be set by opening the back like the KOT?
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Can't it be set with the switch by opening the back like the original KOT?
Thank's for showing me this brand. They even have Walrus Audio clones I might try out.
@@Dawgley they were called Walras but they vanished from every Chinese site 2 days after I found them lol. I didn’t even get a chance to buy it myself.
@@Dawgley Where did you find the Vemuram?
The original has clear Mid response, while the copy has mellower mid response
What song is that you’re noodling at 2:00?
The first three chords are from the song: Sting shape of my heart. I just play the song differently with some chord extensions.
How did you set up the pedal for both sides? Mine came with od setting in both sides and high gain on the right one. Now I set it boost left and overdrive on right. Thanks for the demo friend ;)
I don't use mine as a booster. yellow side overdrive and red side hi gain. As a booster, there is nothing better than a good eq
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Well...a booster has many good ways of use though. For instance, you can use a booster as an always on pedal and give a nice touch of fatness and body to your signal.
do u have a pic of the inside i want to order one but he has 4 versions of it now thank you , great demo too by the way !!
Just watch the video, it's there.
Does the original have stereo input or is it an FX loop?
They have Stereo but i only use mono
Hi, mate! Could you provide the link where to buy it? It seems there are some different vendors on Aliexpress and I would like to be sure where to buy it safely. Thanks in advance!
You can easily buy it on Aliexpress. I bought mine on ebay at the time but the seller is no longer available there.
I can’t find this one anywhere on eBay. The 68 pedals version is coming up just fine, but this one is no where to be found. Any idea where I can find it?
on ebay it was a different seller. try it on Aliexpress.
you can find me on facebook then i'll send you the link where i bought mine
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 now I can’t find you on Facebook lol 😅
@@claybopenguin333 search for Greg Brewczynski
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 messaged ya
The clone sounds great. Where can I buy one?
Really liked the Nile Rodgers nod! Cool vid
did you buy normal high gain, left high gain, right high gain or both high gain?
It's both with both sides higain
Very close..
Thanks for making this.
@@hansoto120 Thank you for watching my video
O pedal ly rock é melhor que o original. Incrível
Do you think It s a good one to buy no regrets
I don't regret it and would buy one again and again
If I buy the Right High Gain version, can I change it later, once I have the pedal? Because there's a difference of almost 20 dollars for the both high gain version.
I would recommend you always buy both sides higain. You can toggle the dip switches inside to switch between boost overdrive and higain.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Ok, Thanks!
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 One last question. I've seen another famous based pedal, called King Of Drive, by DemonFX. They're both the same price, but I don't know which one I should get. Have you seen it?
Would have liked some more harmonics on the replica but it was still a great compare. Very similar at the end of the day but I feel the original has much better clarity on the high end
😂😂😂
Congratulations about your video! Very good! Amazing tone, amazing play
Ly rock saco una versión del pedal Duellist , deverias probarlo
Where can you buy these?
I bought mine on Aliexpress
I have one and love it,I am also on KOT list , 3 or 4 years from now. HA
I just got mine yesterday, do you know if it runs 18v? Tks great demo!!!
Thank you.
Yes it runs with 18V
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 thanks a lot, I’ve just plugged it, it’s amazing!
I spent over an hour listening to the back and forth between them on every different type of speaker I had, even forcing my son to play parts back for me to blindly compare them.
I genuinely think the Ly-Rock sounds noticeably better.
DAD WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS???
Where to buy?
You have to look on ebay or Aliexpress.
Cual es la diferencia entre la version 68 y esta que estas mostrando del lyr?
The best review
Thank you
Have you already tested the DemonFx pedal?
Ly-Rock and 68 pedals King of Clone are identical. Both are Ly-Rock boards. I have 68 Pedals KoC here in front of me and it even has “Ly-Rock” printed on the PCB just like yours. They have the same manufacturer.
Not the same, two production enterprises from China
@@metalriff365 I’ve got it right here in front of me man. Identical board, caps, resistors, and “ly-rock” is literally printed on the board.
@@garystephenson5406 The timbre effect is completely different. I have both. 68 is from Nanjing. Ly rock is from Beijing. I'm from China. Man, you're wrong.
@@metalriff365 But which one is better?
@@metalriff365 What the heck is a Timbre effect ?
Sounds great! Would you mind to send me the link on aliexpress? Thank you!
i bought it on ebay. I only know that it is also sold on Aliexpress.com. the seller does not currently offer one.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Thank you for responding! Is the feel of the ly-rock KoT similar to the original one?
@@RrDungo I think it sounds and feels exactly like that. I have already played several clones of the KoT but this is the first one where I have to look at whether the original is on or the clone
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 that's amazing, have you tried messing with the internal dip switch of the LyRock?
@@RrDungo yes and it is amazing how exactly the clone works. To include all settings would go beyond the scope of the recording. I have chosen my favorite setting that I use live
I got one on eBay... it’s Great for just on the cusp breakup... bluesy!!!!
Thanks for the video. Nice playing btw. I've always been hesitant to buy a kot, because in every video they sound way too muffled and mushy. Very dark and uninspiring sounding. But in your video you make it sound real nice. I bought one. It's on the way.
I've been thinking about buying the LYR Duellist too. I would love to see you compare the real one with the LYR-Pedal.
Thanks again Gregor.
Old but they have treble pots inside you can adjust to make it much more open sounding if needed
which did you like 68 more pedals or ly-rock?
I like the LY-ROCK more because it is closer to the original and sounds 99% the same in all settings
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 tks so much .
This is really interesting as there is a guy on UA-cam who has done a tear down comparison of the 68 pedals KOT components and all of the components are virtually...or are ..identical to the original KOT... Right down to impedence levels etc ... How do you feel the ly rock improves over the 68... Was about to purchase a 68 based on the originality of its components so would love to know your thoughts...cheers
@@bassmandudge interested in this as well
@@firstnamelastname9370 I have ordered the lyr KOT and their King Tone (dualist clone) pedal so will be interesting to see how they sound. I recently bought the demonfx b7k preamp clone and the darkglass supersymmetry clone for my bass rig.. the b7k clone is ok ..sounds good but I am really impressed with the compressor... Sounds and feels really good ..so my journey into clones has been pretty positive so far.
At 6:16 I'm hearing a big difference on the Journey Don't Stop Believin riff.
KOT has more soul to the undertones.
It could be the small differences in picking.
I agree. I understand the next comment about picking, but I do notice the difference between the two pedals with this particular song. Before, they sounded extremely close.
It's parts tolerance. He sets the knobs exactly the same, but even decent spec pots can vary up to 15% in tolerance. The best way to set the knobs is by ear.
Great demo I actually have the 68 pedals version which I find amazing but this is very interesting indeed
Thank you.
I sold my 68 pedals a few days ago because I play either the original or the LY-Rock. I think both are great but with LY-Rock I know that it always sounds the same as the original in the same settings. I always had to readjust something with the 68 pedals, but that was always very minimal
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 that’s good to know, i think I might just pull the trigger on one
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Hi Gregor, thanks for this great information and demo. I'm just wondering if you could elaborate a bit on why you always had to "readjust" the 68 pedal? Why do you think that is?
Esse LY rock é o Clone que vende no Aliexpress???
Sim
Great demo Greg ! Thank you . I'm about to order but I see that you can choose from High gain left - High gain Right or both , what should I choose ?
Also , I see there are two versions of Ly Rock , one is King of tone and the other is King of tone V4 , any idea what the difference is ? Really appreciate your help !
I would take both sides hi gain, that makes more sense. You're more flexible, but I don't know exactly where you can still order it now. It's been a while since I ordered.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Thank you Gregor ! Really appreciate it !
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Hey Gregor , hope all is well ! I received my pedal today and it sounds very good , I chose both high gain channels like you suggested . Is it normal that I don't hear any difference when I click on those dip switches ?
Mine were set factory off-off-on-off What does it do ?
@@lousekoya1803 Thats boost red channel and OD yellow Channel. The opposite than original KOT factory settings.
Anyone tried this with 18v? Wondering if it can handle it and if so does it sound better on 18v?
I tested it with 18V both sounded the same. both sound more open and less compressed at 18V. I did the test with 9V because most of them work with 9V.
Thanks for the reply, I got this pedal because of your video and I must say I'm very pleased! Cheers
I saw that on his page he offers different set ups, such as low gain, hi gain on the left side, Hi gain on the right side. What is this that you are using?
I have the option both sides hi gain but in the video I use the settings, red side hi gain and yellow side OD
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 This pedal is a beast.
Have you tried the Ksr Ceres and BÉ OD DELUXE clone?
I have both, KSR Ceres clone, BE-OD Deluxe clone and even this KOT and the JHS Sweet tea from Ly-Rock!
The KSR clone is a pure monster!!! I was totally blown away!! They really make an awesome work on those clones... None of the 4 I have sound bad!
@@dimebagtribute I was thinking to get the sweet tea clone.
@@dimebagtribute also I have the Ksr Lyr but I feel It has too Much treble. I mean the mids are kinda mid/treble and the treble are kinda too much treble xD, do you feel the same? Its the Ksr original like That?
@@CristianMunoz-go9tf Yes the Ceres have a tone focused in the hi-mids/treble, the clone is the same... Maybe they will do the Vesta, it's definitly more the kind of tone you are looking for I bet☺️
The sweet tea is an awesome pedal, I didn't expected such good tones from it!
I don't know if you know it but there is DemonFX who made the clone of the JHS AT+, Friedman BE-OD, Horizon Device Precision Drive and way more like Mad Professor series...etc... It's a really good series and it's very well-made, each one is a 1:1 clone with DemonFX name on it and with all the internal trimpots when the original have one...
The price is around 35 bucks for a pedal!! Honestly there are really perfect units with spot-on tones!! Definitly a must-have, or at least need to have an eye on it☺️
Just got mine from Ali Express today after watching your video.
I’ve noticed on mine unless I’m on the “clean boost” setting, the volume when engaged even when all the way up is no louder than bypassed. And it’s so bright I have to have the tone almost all the way down.
Is there something up with my pedal, or are the OD/Dist modes supposed to be that quiet? I don’t see your tone knobs near that low, too.
Regarding the brightness - it seems that internal trim-pot (white round for phillips screwdriver) inside your pedal is all the way up. Try to minimize it - it's the default setting.
@@The_Vict0r yep, i've tamed that a bit, i'm just concerned something overall is amiss since it's so quite on any mode but the clean boost. doesn't seem to match up with what i'm seeing/hearing from the video here.
i can max out the volume in the OD or Dist modes, and it's not any louder than the bypassed volume.
Check that it is certainly on clean boost. Mine came in OD on both sides and it is notably less louder than clean boost mode. It is different running It on 18v too!
Ha sir You feel 68 king of tone and LY-rock king of tone Which one is more like the original analogman king of tone
because i want to buy
thank you I from taiwan
I prefer the LY-ROCK pedal.
Pásanos la página para comprarlo
Wow, great comparison, thank you. They sound almost identical. Where did you buy the LY-Rock KoT and which version (gain options)? I can only find it on Aliexpress (or Ebay China) and I have to select 1 of 4 gain options. I was about to order the 68 pedals KoC, but this video changed my mind ;-) [shipping to Germany needed]
hm, considering the built-in switchable hi-gain option of the 68 pedals KoC, wouldn't the KoC be the more versatile choice? Especially when operated with 18V the difference between LY-ROCK KoT and 68 pedals KoC might become negligible, what do you think?
thanks, i bought it on ebay, that was actually a coincidence because i actually wanted to buy the 68 pedals (for the second time). For me, the LY-ROCK is currently the best clone of the king of tone. I have the option higain red side
@@Schnuffelmonster I also tested it with 18v and there was no sound difference between all three. With the 68 pedals you have to activate the internal high gain switcher otherwise the sound dies when you turn down the gain pot and then it just sounds dull. for me they are useless. I am currently shooting a video where it is also shown.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 thanks a lot for your effort and all the valuable information! I subscribed to your channel and am looking forward for the next video.
@@Schnuffelmonster Hello, man I saw the ad you mentioned, I'm about to buy, the more expensive version both high gain, but I don't know if I'll be able to adjust to boost or even overdrive. I didn't understand what to have to select 1 out of 4 options
Sounds awesome. Just one question: on aliexpress you have these options: both hi gain, lef normal - right high gain, left hi gain - right normal, both normal. Which configuration is yours in the video. Thanks and regards.
Thank you.
Mine had the option of high gain on both sides but I prefer to use it
Yello side overdrive (normal) and Red side high gain
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Thanks a lot man. I saw on the app that configuration is the best selling . Do you know if its possible configuring manually the switches in the LY ROCK version? Thanks again and keep with the good job.
@@RicardoLopez-ce9cj Yes, you have internal switches with which you can switch any option. You can find the description on the analogman website.
Sounds great. I ordered one based on this video. I've already got a 68 pedals clone and while it is very good I'm hoping this is slightly better. Out of interest, how long did yours take to arrive from China?
It sounds a bit more balanced again, but that's really nothing big, but the little things make it in life. I waited about 7 days then it was there. I'm from Germany
Well. What did you find out. LY Rock or 68 pedals clone?