Brandon Sanderson Lecture 3: Intro to Prose (1/5)

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  • In a somewhat all-over-the-place manner, Brandon lays outs some of the basic issues involved in having a masterful prose style. Next up: First person viewpoints at • Brandon Sanderson Lect... . See the entire class in one place with notes at www.writeaboutdragons.com/home...
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  • @Eunacis
    @Eunacis 9 років тому +324

    2nd Person Future Tense: Also known as "Threatening the Reader"

  • @KodiHful
    @KodiHful 5 років тому +146

    This man is a New York Times bestselling author and is considered one of the greatest fantasy authors in the last thirty years and all people in this comment section can focus on is the dude's handwriting. Hahahaha I would literally die to be in a college classroom learning how to write from Brandon Sanderson, he could literally write out the notes in ketchup on the board and I wouldn't give a shit.

    • @samfranck2119
      @samfranck2119 4 роки тому +2

      His quirky handwriting only makes him more endearing :)

    • @legprop8602
      @legprop8602 4 роки тому +4

      Simp

    • @rejuvelaton5187
      @rejuvelaton5187 3 роки тому +3

      He can't spell thats why he writes like that, which actually gives me a lot of hope in my own writing, because I can't spell very well either, but spell check makes it irrelevant, that and an army of editors and readers.

    • @cringyboring
      @cringyboring 3 роки тому +2

      @@legprop8602 who wouldn't simp for Brandon Sanderson.

    • @thorodinson6649
      @thorodinson6649 2 роки тому

      @@cringyboring me

  • @InCog2020
    @InCog2020 10 років тому +24

    Here. Have the gummy bear I was playing with. lol

  • @tealsekai
    @tealsekai 6 років тому +56

    Can we just give an honourable mention to his dope hat

  • @OMGKITTENMEWMEW1
    @OMGKITTENMEWMEW1 10 років тому +35

    This was so damn interesting. The omniscient explanation was fantastic.

  • @maxipad1
    @maxipad1 12 років тому +7

    Brandon gives gold advice. Thank you SO MUCH for uploading these videos!

  • @Sanchara
    @Sanchara 5 років тому +2

    I didn't know that 'establishing shot' thing was something a lot of other writers did. I started doing it in my prose after learning a little about screenwriting. I find the scenes that warrant it tend to be ones with new and interesting settings. Douglas Adams will forever be the king omniscient in my world.

  • @CrashTheComet
    @CrashTheComet 5 років тому +9

    Reading present tense is absolute torture. I could go either way between 1st and both 3rd person perspectives though.

  • @omotheclowno25
    @omotheclowno25 11 років тому +8

    love the Dune and WoT references, loving these lectures, am I dont intend to be a writer, just find this fascinating as a reader

  • @overnightgrowth
    @overnightgrowth 9 років тому +18

    Great writer and a great instructor. Awesome :)

  • @Maerahn
    @Maerahn 7 років тому +10

    Literary Fiction: the kind of book you read and then, at the end, you go "Wow, that was awesome! I have NO IDEA what it was supposed to be about, but it was AWESOME!" (Or ocasionally you can swap out the word 'awesome' for 'crap,' depending on your personal tastes.)

  • @alec187
    @alec187 4 роки тому +2

    Brandon really went in his I’m an artiste bag with his fit

  • @cdc8875
    @cdc8875 8 років тому +8

    Prose for the amateur and the pro's? (I'm corny I couldn't resist)

  • @Pinewoodpaladin227
    @Pinewoodpaladin227 11 років тому

    Thank You Sincerely, You've saved me some heart ache.

  • @Boxghost102
    @Boxghost102 10 років тому

    Can you come to SUNY Geneseo and teach this class?

  • @Thenoobestgirl
    @Thenoobestgirl 3 роки тому

    Editor: so... which POV are you going to write your story in?
    Erin Morgenstern: YES

  • @gunnardlarson3165
    @gunnardlarson3165 10 років тому +7

    Sometimes people get in front of crowds (that room is packed) and they have a temporary lapse of memory, I taught writing seminars for elementary school students and I still blanked occasionally when they asked me simple questions. No one is perfect. Also, keep in mind that he is a writer first and a prof second.

  • @keegster7167
    @keegster7167 7 років тому +1

    What if you make two versions of the same book, the present and past versions? Then, everyone can get what they are used to!

  • @nicklang6798
    @nicklang6798 4 роки тому

    wish he would tour and do workshops at writing conference's. Portland, wordstock. Just an idea for you.

  • @BRiGHT-CHilD
    @BRiGHT-CHilD 3 роки тому +1

    I like his Blues Brothers-esque outfit.

  • @covmeister
    @covmeister 12 років тому +29

    I love how awful his hand-writing is.

  • @tamanousJP
    @tamanousJP 12 років тому

    Agreed! So awesome!

  • @ks-dn6oj
    @ks-dn6oj 3 роки тому

    Brandon tossing out gummy bears that he had been grinding between his oily fingers makes this a difficult video to watch now-a-days. I'm sure he looks back at this and cringes as much of the rest of us.

  • @williamturner6192
    @williamturner6192 5 років тому +3

    I find it hard to convince myself to think about trying to write in 2nd person omniscient cuter tense.
    Someone got a paragraph long short story?

    • @williamturner6192
      @williamturner6192 5 років тому

      Nope, I can't manage it for a paragraph.
      "He sat on me and then the cup was like, 'no, buy me dinner first, get your lips off me'"
      Maybe I shouldn't include the inanimate.
      "He slapped me with a chair"
      "He slapped me with a leg from the same chair"
      So maybe I could indirectly do it with people telling the story to each other... but then I want him to speak up and bully them again because they got away last time and I would want to know the narrator's by then...

    • @MrNikeNicke
      @MrNikeNicke 3 роки тому +1

      An attemt:
      "You will walk along a dark path in the woods, happily unaware of the horrors stalking you. The smell of smoke will reach you, but you'll assume it's people having a barbecue as it will be a pleasant summer night, the holidays having just started in the town you'll live. You will have been out with a few friends, walking home. You will be tired yet in a good mood, thinking excitedly about getting home to your bed. A bed you'll never see again. A home you won't reach."

  • @maysacorya9055
    @maysacorya9055 3 роки тому

    Brandon why are you fondling the gummy bears like that before throwing them out

  • @DryBONESreborn
    @DryBONESreborn 10 років тому +33

    lol future tense

    • @BiscuitDelivery
      @BiscuitDelivery 9 років тому +10

      2nd POV, future perfect tense. Make this a thing. :D

    • @iamcleaver6854
      @iamcleaver6854 8 років тому +6

      +Kindred Spirit *Multiple POV

    • @keegster7167
      @keegster7167 7 років тому +2

      It wouldn't even be that hard. Just change the tense from a story that you already made in a different tense.

    • @theclickening6668
      @theclickening6668 3 роки тому

      @@keegster7167
      Four years later and you're right.

  • @howardkoor2796
    @howardkoor2796 3 роки тому

    He knows his stuff.............

  • @Jellofish777
    @Jellofish777 7 років тому +5

    I notice so few people will even acknowledge third person objective, which is a shame to me. I know the argument that occupying none of the characters' minds/having no hard point of view defeats the purpose of the written form, but I think there's a lot to be gained from having the reader actively participate in discerning emotion based on described body language and expression the same way you would interacting with anyone in real life. I guess everyone wants to BE the protagonist rather than be along for the ride. Can anyone recommend some fantasy or just really good books told from a fly on the wall perspective? It would be much appreciated as this is my preferred style.

    • @kovi567
      @kovi567 7 років тому

      OH YES!!! I want that... and maybe write one that way... idk, just learning now the stuff, but holy hell, something that avant garde just makes my belly area fuzzy with excitement!

    • @chrissmith9167
      @chrissmith9167 5 років тому +2

      That sounds like reading a very descriptive script to me.

  • @mattthecoolfish
    @mattthecoolfish 12 років тому

    If only you could teach this class at CNU

  • @BlueisNotaWarmColour
    @BlueisNotaWarmColour 2 роки тому

    Early Sanderson lectures he sounds like Quentin Tarantino mixed with Ben Shapiro but later Sanderson lectures he turns into Quentin Tarantino mixed with Conan O'Brien.

  • @johnnytimmons5023
    @johnnytimmons5023 12 років тому +1

    You are both smart and can use a thesaurus, we get it. You both think the other us dumb for differing ideas and will never sway each other. Enjoy some honest entertaining and informative youtube and stop being angry at the computer. I would like to discuss the actual content in the comments, if I so choose, without the distraction.
    Peace, guys. You are both good, intelligent, contributing people that matter. Show it, even on the internet.

    • @thorodinson6649
      @thorodinson6649 2 роки тому +2

      Wow, things were more civilized back then

  • @superphaggot9894
    @superphaggot9894 11 років тому

    That guy at 5:03 is awesome.

  • @ABUAMAL100
    @ABUAMAL100 6 років тому +1

    Check out 9:30 minutes. Do you think the students are actually eating those contaminated Gummy Bears?

  • @thecharleskennedy
    @thecharleskennedy 9 років тому +21

    honestly thought he was pronouncing omniscient wrong the entire time until I googled that American's pronounce it differently...

  • @nicholer9
    @nicholer9 11 років тому

    Secret to being a best-selling author? Jelly beans/Gummy bears

  • @pumpkinsandme6238
    @pumpkinsandme6238 Рік тому

    Now I want gummy bears

  • @seraphilm0
    @seraphilm0 11 років тому

    I'm surprised Sanderson couldn't name a single literary fiction author. David Foster Wallace? Thomas Pynchon? These guys are pretty huge. Even William Gibson straddles the line on occasion, although Sanderson didn't deign to talk about cyberpunk in the last lecture. Not complaining, just making an observation.

  • @camclemons
    @camclemons 11 років тому +1

    Then looks away abashedly

  • @sami6998
    @sami6998 4 роки тому +1

    My favorite part of this is that he didnt even bother writing omniscient fully. Hes just like "screw it. If they get it they get"
    Honestly thats a mood

  • @BonesNeverLie
    @BonesNeverLie 3 роки тому

    Were people actually eating those gummy bears?

  • @TheToneBender
    @TheToneBender 6 років тому

    I wish my teachers would reward us with gummy bears

  • @beefdlo
    @beefdlo 11 років тому +2

    Nice hat

  • @mionysus5374
    @mionysus5374 9 років тому +3

    NEXT time this guy throws out candy he better make sure it's wrapped candy! Some damn starbursts or something; tossing out man-handled, germ-ridden gummy bears is just wrong and nasty.

    • @BiscuitDelivery
      @BiscuitDelivery 9 років тому +1

      If you don't like it, don't eat it.

    • @mionysus5374
      @mionysus5374 9 років тому +1

      Vengeful Spirit I still ate that shit....it was good! It was better than American Baby Bald Eagles dipped in copious amounts of Freedom sauce while roasted in a trailer park grill shaped like the world trade center. That's how good that candy was....just sayin'

    • @BiscuitDelivery
      @BiscuitDelivery 9 років тому +1

      Mionysus You're amusing.

    • @thorodinson6649
      @thorodinson6649 2 роки тому

      @@BiscuitDelivery isn’t he just wonderful, my friend?

  • @armanisar-feinial1789
    @armanisar-feinial1789 3 роки тому +2

    I'm not a particular fan of his description of Literary markets and fiction. Generally speaking, Literary fiction would be something that really focuses on the flaw of humanity. Literary fiction will have a plot, but the focus is almost entirely character focused: think Violet Evergarden for instance. Market fiction is a heavy balance with almost equal emphasis on both the character and the plot. A lot of good literary fiction will have a Person VS self conflict.

  • @holylips2859
    @holylips2859 11 років тому +1

    So "Little , did he know..." is an omniscient statement ?

    • @calin6327
      @calin6327 4 роки тому

      Even tho Rowling used it in her first chapter and then quasi used it later

  • @Jimbad29
    @Jimbad29 11 років тому +8

    Get back to the video, I sincerely promise you that the comments below are not worth your time.

    • @kekvult3730
      @kekvult3730 6 років тому +3

      Jimbad29 I stare into the abyss and it stares back.

    • @XZCEYM
      @XZCEYM 6 років тому

      Jimbad29 Thank you

  • @cascal7503
    @cascal7503 6 років тому +2

    Watched it for 2 minutes...terrible...what language is he using to write on the whiteboard?...Greek?

    • @KodiHful
      @KodiHful 5 років тому

      Don't go into the sciences, then. Every instructor writes like that.

  • @SolomonKull
    @SolomonKull 12 років тому

    I hate to nitpick, but you really should learn where to place commas in a sentence.

  • @nickolasdiamond5619
    @nickolasdiamond5619 3 роки тому

    Brandon's prose is solid but let's not pretend that is nothing other than mundane

  • @zamm0rock
    @zamm0rock 4 роки тому

    hey man wtf i want a gummy bear

  • @theBoonarmies
    @theBoonarmies 10 років тому +24

    This stuff is all awesome and helps me so very very much, but man do I hate that hat...

    • @BiscuitDelivery
      @BiscuitDelivery 9 років тому +3

      It's just a piece of attire.

    • @mrfrelancekiller
      @mrfrelancekiller 9 років тому +3

      Vengeful Spirit -That looks like shit.
      Just thought I'd finish that sentence for ya.

    • @BiscuitDelivery
      @BiscuitDelivery 9 років тому +1

      ***** Your words, not mine. Speaking of which, your current attire looks fairly garish. Funny how these things work, isn't it?

    • @mrfrelancekiller
      @mrfrelancekiller 9 років тому +3

      Vengeful Spirit ooh, someone has an English degree. You sure made me look silly!

    • @BiscuitDelivery
      @BiscuitDelivery 9 років тому +2

      ***** Actually no, I'm currently working on a phsyics degree. As for making you look silly, you've done a good enough job of that on your own.

  • @dragonchr15
    @dragonchr15 6 років тому +3

    This guy looks like he could be hosting a magic the gathering toirnament....

    • @berner
      @berner 5 років тому

      This IS how he hosts a Magic the Gathering Tournament

  • @ArchonizeTV
    @ArchonizeTV 11 років тому

    Their word count is too high for the genre they're writing!

  • @greycricketsong
    @greycricketsong 5 років тому

    hat.

  • @ethanfleisher1910
    @ethanfleisher1910 5 років тому

    highly interesting lecture, but man his mannerisms are so... gross. Did anyone else notice him smush up a gummy bear for ages and then toss it to a student? haha but his content was great. Very thorough.

  • @Old299dfk
    @Old299dfk 8 років тому +11

    I can't believe how bad Brandon's handwriting is!

  • @michaelmano7261
    @michaelmano7261 5 років тому

    Anyone else watch Sanderson's teachings who don't have the intention of writing? I just find it so interesting.
    Also the gummy bears are a tad gross

  • @mrjohnson2289
    @mrjohnson2289 12 років тому

    If you want to continue this interlocution, please feel free to ascertain my whereabouts and produce yourself promptly, preferably introducing yourself with the word "obfuscate", so I can give, in the words of Ari Gold, "a bitch slap for a bitch". Goodnight princess.

  • @mrjohnson2289
    @mrjohnson2289 12 років тому

    I'm American, so super double fail for you sir. To assume is major noobage. Just because I mention another country doesn't automatically mean I'm from said country. Maybe you should quit school and start serving fries.

  • @mrjohnson2289
    @mrjohnson2289 12 років тому

    Ah but again you fail to produce the logical aptitude to reason through an argument! You assumed I was directing my comment at "serving fries" when in fact it was towards your 2nd point! Tisk tisk, that LA degree is really letting you down my friend. And by suggesting I "quit trolling until I learn how", are you leading me to infer that you are such a fountain of trollish skills? A logical conclusion to such a notion would lead me to believe that YOU are the troll and I the troll slayer. Tata.