I know this training may seem odd to us Americans but it works! I had the opportunity to train with some of our host Army and RAF while over there. They may over do safety but that's a big part of what makes it work! Just because it is not the way we may do it does not make it wrong. I learned a great deal from those guys and that helped me so much over my 26 years with the US Army and Air Force.
Hey, respects to you Yanks (it's a term of endearment). In 1940, we were fighting for our lives, and thankfully, this was before I arrived on this Earth. Respects to them all.
As others have noted, all the "British" soldiers are Canadians of 1st Cdn Inf Div. The film's advice is that which I was taught. "Shoot to kill" was also the title of a great Canadian Army training pamphlet of WWII. This film is a great time capsule of 1940.
I was trained under the "Shoot To Kill" method. I always laughed at the illustrations with the Indians and things like hugging your girlfriend pictures.
5:58 It's Charles Hawtrey from Carry On fame... bullet fodder, actually I think he was the one who stood up at the end right out of the bushes like a silly Monty Python sketch...
I love the style of those old-school movies. A simpler language and a bit of good humor (I bet the "Germans" were a mock) but keeping things serious and instructive.
It looks like the country around Longmoor Camp- or further north into Surrey- Chobham Ridges perhaps, where plenty of Canadians were based- not least the Inkerman Barracks. Those Germans appeared to be wearing WW1 era helmets and carrying Lee Enfield rifles. We also see the Boys anti-tank rifle -which was not very effective and was replaced by the PIAT.
Everybody laughs at our Home Guard, it was made into a series called 'Dad's army'. Ridiculous as it may have been portrayed, the Home Guard had many Old Dads with a great deal of experience. They had fought in WW1 and knew a thing or two about fighting the Hun. This training film appears to have a duologue that resembles a Canadian accent whilst the narrator instructs in perfect English. No matter......the best advice, however ridiculous it might appear was of the highest calibre at the time. Respects to all of them, and yes ! They did speak like that at the time.
My old grandad would've had a good laugh at this he told me once that even the anti tank guns of the time were bouncing off enemy armour like ping pong balls so the heavy cumbersome unwieldy rifle was useless he said he only ever saw one in England he didn't see any in france he was wounded in the battle for caen and i believe what he said about the anti tank rifle USELESS
Armour progressed very fast during the war. The Boyes was designed to take on what were considered light tanks which did characterise the Panzer division at that time. By the time of the Normandy campaign the PzIV was the most common tank, with the odd PzV (Panther) and very occasional PzVI (Tiger). All the armies had AT rifles at the start, but nobody bothered with them by '44, hence PIAT, the Bazooka, and the German equivalents.
WW2 "Shoot to Kill". Later Wars... "Shoot to wound. It takes two men to drag their wounded back to cover and the enemy expends resources treating wounded."
the use of section rifles as an anti aircraft system was used by the Russians from as far back as the Spanish Civil war and taught to all client state armies and was commonly used in Vietnam. Every Viet Cong and NVA soldier was taught to fire at aircraft with single or automatic fire as required. The logic was that if the soldier sat there and did nothing, it increased his sense of vulnerability so he might as well shoot back, on the basis that he might hit the crew or a vulnerable engine. American pilots in Vietnam were initially scornful that rifle fire could affect them but soon learned to have respect for what was called "the golden BB", as jet aircraft, full of vulnerable hydraulic and fuel systems could be brought down or badly damaged by simple rifle fire. It was common for even fast jets to return from missions to find rifle bullet holes in the airframe and wings, that they had not noticed in the flight.
And all the "German" soldiers are carrying British Enfield SMLE rifles. You'd think the Brits could have scared up some Mauser 98k rifles from somewhere.
The film makers probably did not have time to acquire them as they would have a filming schedule to stick to, and remember this was way before digital cameras so there is extra logistics of film reel to think about.
@@ThunderBuddy Depends on when the movie was made. If it was after 1940 then the British had a fairly substantial stock of captured 98k's. If it was before the battle for France then they probably had very few.
@@sarjim4381 I imagine this was filmed in 1939 as they are still using the AT rifle and regard it as one of the best weapons for dealing with tanks. Possibly this was made at the start of the war when things were quiet aside from the occasional skirmish.
ohredhk many photos of troops firing bolt action rifles and light machine guns exist. If for example, if a whole battalion of 3 or 4 rifle companies and a heavy weapons company were under attack by low flying enemy aircraft, many hundreds or maybe thousands of rounds could be fired in a short time, and a few lucky shots could theoretically hit a vital part of the plane or the crew. The fact that many armies trained it's troops to fire at enemy aircraft indicates that it was believed to be possible to down enemy planes using rifles.
Flight of the Intruder in Vietnam. At low altitudes even a Mosin Nagant can take out a slow moving jet if it hits just right. A bullet hitting a vital component or the pilot. A B-52 crash in Guam was caused by a local taking shots at them with a 22 long rifle as they came in to land. Guess the local thought it was funny or the plane was armored.
@@simonyip5978 Even if ineffective at shooting down there are two major advantages to doing it: 1. Morale effect - especially after the issues with air attacks in 1940 2. Morale effect on the enemy - the more lead flying at you the less you will fly straight and therefore accuracy reduces
4:05 by 1940s the British had still learned nothing about camouflage but instead dug trenches with obvious support stakes and then made a flat parapet to make it easy for the Germans to snipe them. 25 years previously the Germans had good sport sniping British soldiers in similar trenches while German snipers put camouflage on their helmets and have messy parapets to hide their movements.
Rose White you missed the information given by the narator about removing the cover to allow the audiance to see them 1.50 Also as for 25 years before the germans puting " cammo on there helmets " there is not much point in looking like a bush when all around is just MUD
According to the Head of WW2 Sniping the Brit soldier could not hit anything his words if the war was decided by Rifle fire Britain would have lost. After WW1 all firearms were confiscated fearing Revolution. By WW2 most men had never seen a firearm and training was supplied by WW1 Veteran's.
Confiscated? Nonsense. There was plenty of opportunity for marksmanship training and firearm ownership if appropriate through the 1920s and 1930s. As per the Great War before, most casualties were caused by artillery, and rifle fire was a much less significant factor than we would think.
Utter ignorant rubbish, shooting had never been more popular as sport then it was between the wars, and if basic shooting skills were being taught by WW1 vets it would have been based on a considerable amount of experience from an army that even the Germans admit were the best shots in the world.
Well maybe if they only used panzer 1 or 2 maybe weak spots on panzer3 but if you think an anti tank rifle or 2pounder is gonna do more than piss off a panzer 4 or Panther or Tiger 1 or Tiger 2 your in deep Doo Doo LoL
@@alexwilliamson1486 Better re read yourself... Rufus is right. Most tanks could be defeated by the 2 pdr. Your original post should say "a few" ... were impervious... or "some"... or whatever lol... I enjoy these old training videos!
dave nope, no need to read again, a former friend of mine works at Bovington, I asked him about the 2pdr, and I’m ex/Royal Artillery, I’m good with what I wrote first, thanks for your concern though? Lord Gort himself wrote that “The 2pdr is good but only just, we must mount something better and more armour on it” This was after experiences in 1940, with the BEF. Germany were not fielding many Mark IIs mid to late war.I am making my point in this context.I too enjoy these old posts.
I would genuinely love to look at the differences in performance between the 2pdr (37mm?) of 80 years ago and current 30 or 40mm cannons mounted on APC's. I guess there wouldn't be much in it.
![The light machine gun [Bren gun]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/h3sHa85ewgQ/mqdefault.jpg)
I know this training may seem odd to us Americans but it works! I had the opportunity to train with some of our host Army and RAF while over there. They may over do safety but that's a big part of what makes it work! Just because it is not the way we may do it does not make it wrong. I learned a great deal from those guys and that helped me so much over my 26 years with the US Army and Air Force.
Hey, respects to you Yanks (it's a term of endearment).
In 1940, we were fighting for our lives, and thankfully, this was before I arrived on this Earth.
Respects to them all.
'Well stab my vitals!'
An Oscar for the script writer please...
It is jolly good.
Hello, what have we here? Or do these old eyes of mine deceive me?
STAB MY VITALS, IT IS INDEED THE ENEMY
I SAY, CHECK THE RANGE CARD OLD CHAP. WE'RE IN FOR A BINTY ROW
Absolutely brilliant I am ex uk military the English playing the Germans was so funny
From the accents, I'm guessing they were Canadians.
What you on about ? They were real.
Always fun watching films where they still taught hip fire
As others have noted, all the "British" soldiers are Canadians of 1st Cdn Inf Div. The film's advice is that which I was taught. "Shoot to kill" was also the title of a great Canadian Army training pamphlet of WWII. This film is a great time capsule of 1940.
I was trained under the "Shoot To Kill" method. I always laughed at the illustrations with the Indians and things like hugging your girlfriend pictures.
Some of the dry British humor in the narration is great.
5:58 It's Charles Hawtrey from Carry On fame... bullet fodder, actually I think he was the one who stood up at the end right out of the bushes like a silly Monty Python sketch...
That's what I thought- dead ringer.
As soon as Sgt.Major Mayber replied 'Sir' my mind went straight to Monty Python and that is lens through which I saw his part.
Monty Python certainly sprang to mind.
Same here- so much of it was pure Python, lol.
"What are you gonna do when a raving maniac attacks you with a pomegranate!"
Wow, this is spot on as a source of Monty Python's British Army skit material.
KMcK, my thoughts exactly!!!!
I liked that platoon assault lesson. You can shoot up all the ammo you can carry in minutes. Then you're screwed.
"Is that the enemy moving about there? Stab my vitals it is the enemy!" {at 2:50} LOL
Thank you for the upload.
16:49 That's some damn fine shooting.
"Transport blitzed!" Learned a new verb for my daily conversation.
The Tommy gun was called the Chicago type writer
Mr Cholmendley Warner narrating?
The commentator is EV.H. Emmett, who did the voiceovers for Gaumont British News.
“Stab my vitals, it is the enemy!”
LOL
The range card is simple but I can see how it will work really well.
ThunderBuddy they are still printed on the side of the ration boxes
Great video
I love the style of those old-school movies. A simpler language and a bit of good humor (I bet the "Germans" were a mock) but keeping things serious and instructive.
I like how the Germans are equipped with British weaponry
The soldiers (other than the sergeant-major) are all Canadians judging by the accents.
You can just make out the "CANADA" shoulder titles on some of them.
throwing a baseball is a tip off too
It looks like the country around Longmoor Camp- or further north into Surrey- Chobham Ridges perhaps, where plenty of Canadians were based- not least the Inkerman Barracks. Those Germans appeared to be wearing WW1 era helmets and carrying Lee Enfield rifles. We also see the Boys anti-tank rifle -which was not very effective and was replaced by the PIAT.
Firing that anti-tank rifle at a tank seems like a bad idea.
Everybody laughs at our Home Guard, it was made into a series called 'Dad's army'. Ridiculous as it may have been portrayed, the Home Guard had many Old Dads with a great deal of experience. They had fought in WW1 and knew a thing or two about fighting the Hun.
This training film appears to have a duologue that resembles a Canadian accent whilst the narrator instructs in perfect English.
No matter......the best advice, however ridiculous it might appear was of the highest calibre at the time.
Respects to all of them, and yes ! They did speak like that at the time.
WW1..."shoulder to shoulder, Lads...leisurely walk up to the enemy lines, then cut the wire and shoot."
If that was the highest caliber the no wonder the US had to bail out the UK 2 times in like 25 years...
Fantastic! this should be how our grandfathers fought against Japanese . Cheers from sri lanka
The guy with the tommy was a BOSS
Great document of British Army training at the time ... by the Canadian Army
This is funny as a cartoon.
What was the effectiveness of the bren against German planes early in the war?
good stuff
-whoosh- -thump-
“Precisely”
4:28 sentry on alert like a coconut shy.
What about pointed sticks?
Narrator: "'Ello, 'ello, 'ello. What's all this then?"
Nice to see the Germans are carrying Enfield rifles, our chaps can round up some extra ammo from the "death trap" after shooting to kill.
Good job by Colonial Canuks.
Wau....terbaik
"Jenkiins I'm afraid you used a bit too much ammo old boy.."
Are you sure that this isn't the 40's?
6:00 lol he has an Enfield.
1:21 "off we go then.."
Hello, what they should have done is open fire in conjunction with the bren gun. So the rifles also start shooting when the bren gun starts.
"Hun smasher" xD
My old grandad would've had a good laugh at this he told me once that even the anti tank guns of the time were bouncing off enemy armour like ping pong balls so the heavy cumbersome unwieldy rifle was useless he said he only ever saw one in England he didn't see any in france he was wounded in the battle for caen and i believe what he said about the anti tank rifle USELESS
Armour progressed very fast during the war. The Boyes was designed to take on what were considered light tanks which did characterise the Panzer division at that time. By the time of the Normandy campaign the PzIV was the most common tank, with the odd PzV (Panther) and very occasional PzVI (Tiger). All the armies had AT rifles at the start, but nobody bothered with them by '44, hence PIAT, the Bazooka, and the German equivalents.
Those lads have Canadian accents. This is 1940, The Canadians were the only fully equipped troops to defend England right after after Dunkirk
Seems like common sense, but always good to go over.
The good old days. When. One don't have to worry about batterys or electronics everyone stood a chance more or less.. Gr8 vids ..keep them coming..
The "German" troops are carrying British rifles.
Bad form, wot.
14:28
“Remember shoot to kill” lmao
WW2 "Shoot to Kill".
Later Wars... "Shoot to wound. It takes two men to drag their wounded back to cover and the enemy expends resources treating wounded."
^^ fuddlore
I would think that any downing of combat aircraft by infantry weapons would be more of a one in a million shot or blind ass luck.
the use of section rifles as an anti aircraft system was used by the Russians from as far back as the Spanish Civil war and taught to all client state armies and was commonly used in Vietnam. Every Viet Cong and NVA soldier was taught to fire at aircraft with single or automatic fire as required. The logic was that if the soldier sat there and did nothing, it increased his sense of vulnerability so he might as well shoot back, on the basis that he might hit the crew or a vulnerable engine. American pilots in Vietnam were initially scornful that rifle fire could affect them but soon learned to have respect for what was called "the golden BB", as jet aircraft, full of vulnerable hydraulic and fuel systems could be brought down or badly damaged by simple rifle fire. It was common for even fast jets to return from missions to find rifle bullet holes in the airframe and wings, that they had not noticed in the flight.
In 1969 I saw the damage done by one rifle bullet that destroyed the radar unit on a navy A7.
theyre marching Very close to each other....
Why the hell has that guy got a golf ball stuck to his face ?
0:06 this is the closest to a German machingun the video gets
10:50 comedy
And all the "German" soldiers are carrying British Enfield SMLE rifles. You'd think the Brits could have scared up some Mauser 98k rifles from somewhere.
The film makers probably did not have time to acquire them as they would have a filming schedule to stick to, and remember this was way before digital cameras so there is extra logistics of film reel to think about.
@@ThunderBuddy Depends on when the movie was made. If it was after 1940 then the British had a fairly substantial stock of captured 98k's. If it was before the battle for France then they probably had very few.
@@sarjim4381 I imagine this was filmed in 1939 as they are still using the AT rifle and regard it as one of the best weapons for dealing with tanks. Possibly this was made at the start of the war when things were quiet aside from the occasional skirmish.
Lol the Soldiers are Canadian in it
its VERY monty python
Mr and Mrs Watson can not be seen....
That dug in section were Canadian
Here come the Stukas...."fix bayonettes".
did anybody actually shot down an WWII warplane with the techniqe they shown in the film with bolt action rifle?
ohredhk many photos of troops firing bolt action rifles and light machine guns exist.
If for example, if a whole battalion of 3 or 4 rifle companies and a heavy weapons company were under attack by low flying enemy aircraft, many hundreds or maybe thousands of rounds could be fired in a short time, and a few lucky shots could theoretically hit a vital part of the plane or the crew.
The fact that many armies trained it's troops to fire at enemy aircraft indicates that it was believed to be possible to down enemy planes using rifles.
Flight of the Intruder in Vietnam. At low altitudes even a Mosin Nagant can take out a slow moving jet if it hits just right. A bullet hitting a vital component or the pilot. A B-52 crash in Guam was caused by a local taking shots at them with a 22 long rifle as they came in to land. Guess the local thought it was funny or the plane was armored.
@@simonyip5978 Even if ineffective at shooting down there are two major advantages to doing it:
1. Morale effect - especially after the issues with air attacks in 1940
2. Morale effect on the enemy - the more lead flying at you the less you will fly straight and therefore accuracy reduces
Monty Python, as a shrink for this writer/producer. Eh, dead 40 years ago...
Sounds like Eric Cartman from south park
Never shoot at anyone further than 300yrds away...they might go away.
Lol so British it's rediculous. I don't think US ever ended a film in rhymes. Lol ol' Jerry will never see that cup 'a tea.
Cuppa rosie
Rhyme helps with memory.
4:05 by 1940s the British had still learned nothing about camouflage but instead dug trenches with obvious support stakes and then made a flat parapet to make it easy for the Germans to snipe them.
25 years previously the Germans had good sport sniping British soldiers in similar trenches while German snipers put camouflage on their helmets and have messy parapets to hide their movements.
Rose White you missed the information given by the narator about removing the cover to allow the audiance to see them 1.50
Also as for 25 years before the germans puting " cammo on there helmets " there is not much point in looking like a bush when all around is just MUD
Bobs your uncle
I think the first burst from the Thompson should have been a little longer, and definitely aimed, not from the hip.
i bet many brits where surpised these wherent the german tactics at all..
14:46 - "bad...very bad, VERY BAD INDEED IN FACT, *BLOODY AWFUL* !
lol, how British.
According to the Head of WW2 Sniping the Brit soldier could not hit anything his words if the war was decided by Rifle fire Britain would have lost. After WW1 all firearms were confiscated fearing Revolution. By WW2 most men had never seen a firearm and training was supplied by WW1 Veteran's.
Confiscated? Nonsense. There was plenty of opportunity for marksmanship training and firearm ownership if appropriate through the 1920s and 1930s.
As per the Great War before, most casualties were caused by artillery, and rifle fire was a much less significant factor than we would think.
Utter ignorant rubbish, shooting had never been more popular as sport then it was between the wars, and if basic shooting skills were being taught by WW1 vets it would have been based on a considerable amount of experience from an army that even the Germans admit were the best shots in the world.
Well maybe if they only used panzer 1 or 2 maybe weak spots on panzer3 but if you think an anti tank rifle or 2pounder is gonna do more than piss off a panzer 4 or Panther or Tiger 1 or Tiger 2 your in deep Doo Doo LoL
The British started to use 57mm Anti-Tank around 1944. They have a 90mm+ penetration.
Firearms fantasy 🤭
Jesus...we Brits went to war with some dire anti-tank weapons...most German tanks were impervious to any disabling hits from Boys and 2pdr.
Nope, the most common German tank in 39 - 40 was the Panzer II which the 2 pdr could defeat.
Rufus Chucklebutty Yep, i said MOST not all, if you read my post ?
@@alexwilliamson1486 Better re read yourself... Rufus is right. Most tanks could be defeated by the 2 pdr. Your original post should say "a few" ... were impervious... or "some"... or whatever lol... I enjoy these old training videos!
dave nope, no need to read again, a former friend of mine works at Bovington, I asked him about the 2pdr, and I’m ex/Royal Artillery, I’m good with what I wrote first, thanks for your concern though? Lord Gort himself wrote that “The 2pdr is good but only just, we must mount something better and more armour on it” This was after experiences in 1940, with the BEF. Germany were not fielding many Mark IIs mid to late war.I am making my point in this context.I too enjoy these old posts.
I would genuinely love to look at the differences in performance between the 2pdr (37mm?) of 80 years ago and current 30 or 40mm cannons mounted on APC's. I guess there wouldn't be much in it.
Those so called helmets! haha
Shooting down a Stuka with Rifles??? O.K. maybe when parked.
Funny how you learn all this stuff from playing video games.
Jesus,i saw nothing like this durring my 3 combat tours USMC 1/9 Vietnam this is laughable.
a couple of decades (and a different enemy) makes a big difference.
@@stephenandersen4625 And did you win in Vietnam? I am pretty sure the Germans lost WW 2
@@pauldemospdemosp9893 what?
Paul de Mos pdemosp Patton kicked their asses or the Beatles would still be singing at Oktoberfest