I suggest viewing the Ranger attack on Cabatuan in "The Great Raid". The book described the initial volley. One Japanese sentry was the target of a dozen or so M-1's. In the book, the poor chap was basically disintegrated. The event was re-created in the film. So, that was the receiving end of several M1 Garands. One of my favorite movies. Franco was really good in it. As was Benjamin Bratt. One of the few films that makes me cry.
It’s a great round I love it but TBH I believe the 7.92X57mm Mauser is even better. At least in terms of damage, I think it does almost 20% more ft./lbs. than .30-06. Which is just insane. I could be wrong, but I recall reading up on that. I think .30-06 is a little more accurate though, strictly because it’s flatter shooting. That’s just what I remember though.
This film was made in early 1942 by the looks of the helmets and assumes the existence of prepared field fortifications as if it was going to be WW1 all over again. But still, it does suggest what happened during the defense of Bataan. Also, the current version of the Thompson was the M1928A1 which was not in general use or authorized by TO&E for US Army infantry units.
I doubt they would be able to tell the difference between the US weapons of the day and the corresponding German weapons, at least discounting those weapons for which the US had no current corresponding version, like maybe an 88 mm gun, nebelwerfer, or the MG 42, for which a separate UA-cam historical training film was posted. The MG42 video was apparently necessary to calm the fears of US soldiers so they wouldn’t be afraid of its impressive sound/rate of fire.
The M1 rifle and the Mauser produce identical sounds because they are .30 cal weapons. It's very hard to distinguish. In terms of submachine guns and other high caliber machine guns, it is much easier to tell the difference because of the caliber of the submachine guns and the rate of fire of other machine guns.
I've read books written by WW2 vets where they mention watching lots of training films during bootcamp. So now it's interesting seeing some of those same training films myself.
11:59 So this is the origin of the BAR sound effects used in so many Hollywood movies from 1940s to early 1990s. 19:26 Many Hanna-Barbera and Warner Bros movies back in the days used this sound.
22:06 did not know the .50cal was ever fired single-shot. I knew about the Buffer Tube Sleeve, when released, will allow single-shot, but did not know that was ever encouraged.
I carried an M-1 for 3 years and can honestly say that when we were on the range I never heard any sounds except for my own rifle. We did not wear ear plugs then.
when reload , did you ever get numb thumb by not clearing your hand quick enough after pushing the clip in??? Stings....hehehe When you received your honorable discharge did they make you sign a form that said, nothing that happened during your service caused damage to you? like hearing and such.... I was heavy weapons and they gave the 2 smallest guys the BAR, me and ralph. We also used the 106mm recoilless. It had a .50 cal spotter gun that fired incendiary (WP) tracer rounds, semi-auto. Then you traversed the main gun while firing the .50 till you saw the puff of the WP, then pulled the firing trigger for the main gun. After that everyone jumped into the jeep and took off, cause if you missed or didn't kill them, all they had to do was rake you w/ their machine guns. We would put cotton in our ears but the cotton would blow out after the first round, so it was pointless. We actually were part of the circle trigon (the red force, to help train US troops). We once pretended to surrender, raising our weapons above our head. They didn't think to take our weapons b/c we surrendered. So, when then turned away, we all lowered our weapons and captured them...ehehe We also did a display for senators at AP hill. It was a full battalion, with all our rounds being tracers . They started it w/ 1 man firing, then 2, then 4, then 8, then squad, then section, 2 squads, then a platoon...and so on. We had to stop 3 times to put out all the fires that the tracers started. I always thought tracer fire looked kind of like lasers beams....heheh
We had a Lt. that when asked, how much farther do we have to march, he always said just one more hill. When someone said, Lt. were hungry and tired, he responded "You already know how to eat and sleep, I'm going to teach you how to take one more step then the enemy". He also, told us to polish our brass, when we got bored waiting. He, also use to take very late showers, by himself, so one time I got nominated to find out why. I went to the shower after he was in there, and found out why. He had a huge purple welt across his chest. It wasn't till later during parade, that we found out that during Korea his regiment was being over whelmed, and need company to buy them time to retreat. His company was selected, so all the troop leaving gave the 200 men staying behind all their automatic weapons and ammo. He was a radio operator during that engagement, and during the battle things got bad, and when HQ requested to talk to the senior officer, he ,said"they are all dead". Right then and there the HQ officer gave him a battlefield commission and was a 2nd Lt Out of the 200 only 3 lived. It was the last bayonet charge in history and he was awarded the medal of Honor. When we saw him in dress uniform, he only wore the blue banner with white stars on it, and not the medal itself. It funny b/c lesser rank officers have to salute first, but that is not the case when one has earned the medal of honor. It is the senior officers who must salute first and we return their salute (as we were his unit, we do what he does.)
I've read "Hatcher's Book of the Garand," where an astounding revelation in that book was how the US military planners had considered a semi-auto infantry rifle as early as the first decade of the 20th Century. But, the technology wasn't there to reliably manufacture such a rifle. The US military planners considered a semi-auto rifle would make the infantryman more effective in combat to carry-on the fight to the enemy for a longer time. Physical stamina tests with infantrymen proved the bolt action rifle was more tiring to operate, lessening the combat effectiveness of the soldier. One aspect that held back the development of the Garand was General MacArthur's insistence that the .30-06 round had to be used, as there were three million rounds in US military inventory. The M1 designer, John Garand, wanted a slightly smaller caliber cartridge to be used, as there were challenges making the M1 reliable from the power of the .30-06 round. According to Hatcher's book, not adopting the smaller cartridge set back the M1 rifle development by years.
Don't worry if you're one of the few to survive you won't want to bring up the in discrepancies in this film after all the government told us everything we should need to know before invasion
@@BrokeDownBob oh i know and at a surprisingly long range if you do your part! i saw a shooter with a stock 1911 hit a B 27 in the head 5 out of 8 rounds at 180 yards with 3 consecutive mags!
Interesting about the machine guns’ of fire. This takes into account pauses between short bursts and is at odds with the often quoted and much, much higher cyclic rate. Also interesting is the emphasis of the 50cal used like an anti-tank rifle.
the M2 has 550-600 rpm, full auto. But your to fire in short control burst, if you lean on the trigger the barrel will get red hot, and destroyed the rifling of the barrel, and then you will see the rounds spiral as they level the barrel. You will also have to cut the ammo belt b/c the rounds will keep cooking off. After that you have to change out the barrel and you need tools to do that, b/c the barrel is hot as hell. They told us to stick the hot barrels in the ground vertically so as to prevent warping of the barrel. Of course a water jacket allows it to be fired at near full speed, but their heavy and a pain... But when MA duce talks, everyone listens.
At the time of this movie (early 1942, note the Soldiers are wearing the Mk.1 helmet based on the British pattern of 1917), the 37mm Anti-Tank Gun, M3A1 could penetrate any Japanese tank at that time out to one thousand yards. The M3A1 could also penetrate any tank the US Army encountered until Nov 1942, by which time it had been replaced in North Africa by the 57mm ATG M1.
Sort of related to that, a training film for the M2 light tank would recommend that a crew should wait for a target to be at 500 yards or less. Beyond that the accuracy was hurt to an amount significant enough to worry about.
The rate of fire by an M1 Garrand is more like 8 shots in LESS than 5 seconds. Aimed shots, no. Experienced soldiers had to convince new recruits to just shoot in the vicinity of last seen enemy. New guys trained on paper and waited to see the enemy. They soon caught on that both the power of the 30 caliber and force multiplying abilities of the riflle enabled both suppresive fire and ricochet potential. The round penetrated up to 12" wide trees, normal cinder and concrete block and thin gauge steel, like a helmet. So, an American squad(6-10), all shooting, within a minute, could deliver generally well aimed rounds at a rate of +/- 1k rounds on target. Not a fun prospect for down range enemy.
Not applicable, 1. the round is slower then the 1100 fps of sound, 2. such close range use, < 50 yards that all is very obvious. Neither of these things are what this training film is for.
I can’t imagine being on the receiving end of several M1 Garands and a BAR. The 30-06 is a very powerful cartridge.
I suggest viewing the Ranger attack on Cabatuan in "The Great Raid". The book described the initial volley. One Japanese sentry was the target of a dozen or so M-1's. In the book, the poor chap was basically disintegrated. The event was re-created in the film. So, that was the receiving end of several M1 Garands. One of my favorite movies. Franco was really good in it. As was Benjamin Bratt. One of the few films that makes me cry.
It’s a great round I love it but TBH I believe the 7.92X57mm Mauser is even better. At least in terms of damage, I think it does almost 20% more ft./lbs. than .30-06. Which is just insane. I could be wrong, but I recall reading up on that. I think .30-06 is a little more accurate though, strictly because it’s flatter shooting. That’s just what I remember though.
@@ESPLTD322wouldn't it be better to ascertain the facts before posting?...
Sounds like a typical evening in Chicago!
Bang, bang! Chi-ca-go! 😂🤣
@@budb.8560It’s Chekoslovoka, we zip in, zip out.
@@johnt.kennedy3856 Yeah, it's like going into Wisconsin. 😂
@@johnt.kennedy3856 I love 'Stripes' and I love these old training films. 👍
You should be so lucky and luckier to be on the receiving end!🤣😂😅😆
This film was made in early 1942 by the looks of the helmets and assumes the existence of prepared field fortifications as if it was going to be WW1 all over again. But still, it does suggest what happened during the defense of Bataan. Also, the current version of the Thompson was the M1928A1 which was not in general use or authorized by TO&E for US Army infantry units.
Interesting that there was such emphasis on identifying weapons by sound. But it also means you can tell friend from foe without having to look.
Let me show you then.
Also distance and direction.
in reality there was only a few that you could do that with!
I doubt they would be able to tell the difference between the US weapons of the day and the corresponding German weapons, at least discounting those weapons for which the US had no current corresponding version, like maybe an 88 mm gun, nebelwerfer, or the MG 42, for which a separate UA-cam historical training film was posted. The MG42 video was apparently necessary to calm the fears of US soldiers so they wouldn’t be afraid of its impressive sound/rate of fire.
The M1 rifle and the Mauser produce identical sounds because they are .30 cal weapons. It's very hard to distinguish. In terms of submachine guns and other high caliber machine guns, it is much easier to tell the difference because of the caliber of the submachine guns and the rate of fire of other machine guns.
always wonderful.....thank you so much......Paul
Wait-no one told us our own troops would be firing at us....
it's ok they are just getting some practice in just don't stick your head up or its up to the pearly gates for you 😇
It happens often enough, get used to it.
When bullets whine, they're close. When they KRAAAACK!, they're *really* close.
I've read books written by WW2 vets where they mention watching lots of training films during bootcamp. So now it's interesting seeing some of those same training films myself.
This video is for military asmr history geeks
Dang this training film was made early on! Teaching the M1903 Springfield as a standard infantry rifle and having trench warfare scenarios
Great training film and it will be useful for my VPA army
11:59 So this is the origin of the BAR sound effects used in so many Hollywood movies from 1940s to early 1990s.
19:26 Many Hanna-Barbera and Warner Bros movies back in the days used this sound.
Thanks for this 👍
22:06 did not know the .50cal was ever fired single-shot. I knew about the Buffer Tube Sleeve, when released, will allow single-shot, but did not know that was ever encouraged.
They taught me about that in scout training.
40 rounds per minute? I've never heard of that. What year was your Scout training?
it wasn't in combat that single shot feature was more for sighting in and initial training on the gun than actual field use!
Marine sniper Carlos Hathcock (and many others) could fire a 50 caliber M2 single shot by "feathering" the trigger.
@@shastaham7630 didn't have the bolt hold open was installed by that time!!
I carried an M-1 for 3 years and can honestly say that when we were on the range I never heard any sounds except for my own rifle. We did not wear ear plugs then.
when reload , did you ever get numb thumb by not clearing your hand quick enough after pushing the clip in??? Stings....hehehe When you received your honorable discharge did they make you sign a form that said, nothing that happened during your service caused damage to you? like hearing and such.... I was heavy weapons and they gave the 2 smallest guys the BAR, me and ralph. We also used the 106mm recoilless. It had a .50 cal spotter gun that fired incendiary (WP) tracer rounds, semi-auto. Then you traversed the main gun while firing the .50 till you saw the puff of the WP, then pulled the firing trigger for the main gun. After that everyone jumped into the jeep and took off, cause if you missed or didn't kill them, all they had to do was rake you w/ their machine guns. We would put cotton in our ears but the cotton would blow out after the first round, so it was pointless. We actually were part of the circle trigon (the red force, to help train US troops). We once pretended to surrender, raising our weapons above our head. They didn't think to take our weapons b/c we surrendered. So, when then turned away, we all lowered our weapons and captured them...ehehe We also did a display for senators at AP hill. It was a full battalion, with all our rounds being tracers . They started it w/ 1 man firing, then 2, then 4, then 8, then squad, then section, 2 squads, then a platoon...and so on. We had to stop 3 times to put out all the fires that the tracers started. I always thought tracer fire looked kind of like lasers beams....heheh
We had a Lt. that when asked, how much farther do we have to march, he always said just one more hill. When someone said, Lt. were hungry and tired, he responded "You already know how to eat and sleep, I'm going to teach you how to take one more step then the enemy". He also, told us to polish our brass, when we got bored waiting. He, also use to take very late showers, by himself, so one time I got nominated to find out why. I went to the shower after he was in there, and found out why. He had a huge purple welt across his chest. It wasn't till later during parade, that we found out that during Korea his regiment was being over whelmed, and need company to buy them time to retreat. His company was selected, so all the troop leaving gave the 200 men staying behind all their automatic weapons and ammo. He was a radio operator during that engagement, and during the battle things got bad, and when HQ requested to talk to the senior officer, he ,said"they are all dead". Right then and there the HQ officer gave him a battlefield commission and was a 2nd Lt Out of the 200 only 3 lived. It was the last bayonet charge in history and he was awarded the medal of Honor. When we saw him in dress uniform, he only wore the blue banner with white stars on it, and not the medal itself. It funny b/c lesser rank officers have to salute first, but that is not the case when one has earned the medal of honor. It is the senior officers who must salute first and we return their salute (as we were his unit, we do what he does.)
I've read "Hatcher's Book of the Garand," where an astounding revelation in that book was how the US military planners had considered a semi-auto infantry rifle as early as the first decade of the 20th Century. But, the technology wasn't there to reliably manufacture such a rifle.
The US military planners considered a semi-auto rifle would make the infantryman more effective in combat to carry-on the fight to the enemy for a longer time. Physical stamina tests with infantrymen proved the bolt action rifle was more tiring to operate, lessening the combat effectiveness of the soldier.
One aspect that held back the development of the Garand was General MacArthur's insistence that the .30-06 round had to be used, as there were three million rounds in US military inventory. The M1 designer, John Garand, wanted a slightly smaller caliber cartridge to be used, as there were challenges making the M1 reliable from the power of the .30-06 round.
According to Hatcher's book, not adopting the smaller cartridge set back the M1 rifle development by years.
Seems like thats more like how they would sound in a city block or in a building than the country side.
Wait: They never told me about the mortars and howitzers! I'm not ready to invade North Africa or Sicily after watching this. I hope there's a part 2.
Don't worry if you're one of the few to survive you won't want to bring up the in discrepancies in this film after all the government told us everything we should need to know before invasion
yeah they left out the tommy gun and 1911 too!!
The man said flat trajectory weapons. Pay attention, Troop.
@@keithmoore5306 The 1911 will defiantly kill you, trust me..
@@BrokeDownBob oh i know and at a surprisingly long range if you do your part! i saw a shooter with a stock 1911 hit a B 27 in the head 5 out of 8 rounds at 180 yards with 3 consecutive mags!
Like beautiful volleys if you listen well. " The cruder, The ruder 😁."❤
That's right. Just get used to popping your head above the trench line
Interesting about the machine guns’ of fire. This takes into account pauses between short bursts and is at odds with the often quoted and much, much higher cyclic rate. Also interesting is the emphasis of the 50cal used like an anti-tank rifle.
the M2 has 550-600 rpm, full auto. But your to fire in short control burst, if you lean on the trigger the barrel will get red hot, and destroyed the rifling of the barrel, and then you will see the rounds spiral as they level the barrel. You will also have to cut the ammo belt b/c the rounds will keep cooking off. After that you have to change out the barrel and you need tools to do that, b/c the barrel is hot as hell. They told us to stick the hot barrels in the ground vertically so as to prevent warping of the barrel. Of course a water jacket allows it to be fired at near full speed, but their heavy and a pain... But when MA duce talks, everyone listens.
This Video got better Animatins than She Hulk . So amazed
Most of these are on the US Archives site without the stupid counter he put on the screen.
all they gotta do was to use a binocular to mark their enemies, so they could see their silhouettes from behind the walls
Snake
Surprised you don't hear the "ping" sound the M1 clip makes when ejected.
The 37mm tries to make up for it's small size by attempting to bluff it's enemies with a noise level larger than it's size.
bit like s small dog barking loudly🐕
At the time of this movie (early 1942, note the Soldiers are wearing the Mk.1 helmet based on the British pattern of 1917), the 37mm Anti-Tank Gun, M3A1 could penetrate any Japanese tank at that time out to one thousand yards. The M3A1 could also penetrate any tank the US Army encountered until Nov 1942, by which time it had been replaced in North Africa by the 57mm ATG M1.
Sort of related to that, a training film for the M2 light tank would recommend that a crew should wait for a target to be at 500 yards or less. Beyond that the accuracy was hurt to an amount significant enough to worry about.
Wow. You managed to spell all three instances of "its" in a single sentence wrong. Well done.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the army has an updated video, we’re further away from the O’3 Springfield.
Bolt-action Springfield vs. Garand and Carbine...
I'm surprised th 50 is so slow.
The narrator sounds like the voice on Disney's nature films in the 50's.
Of course! That's how they avoided the draft! Film narrators were considered essential employees!
On that .50 cal "It's a machine gun" !!!
Интересно кино
The sound of a round overhead is more like a 'crack', like a .22 Rimfire report.
Sounds like opening day in the national forest !
If you were headed for North Africa, YOU were watching with sweaty palms!
and a spare pairs of pants just in case 💩🩲
Then you'd be asking why the French are shooting back, you thought they were on your side.
No hearing protection!
The rate of fire by an M1 Garrand is more like 8 shots in LESS than 5 seconds. Aimed shots, no. Experienced soldiers had to convince new recruits to just shoot in the vicinity of last seen enemy. New guys trained on paper and waited to see the enemy. They soon caught on that both the power of the 30 caliber and force multiplying abilities of the riflle enabled both suppresive fire and ricochet potential. The round penetrated up to 12" wide trees, normal cinder and concrete block and thin gauge steel, like a helmet. So, an American squad(6-10), all shooting, within a minute, could deliver generally well aimed rounds at a rate of +/- 1k rounds on target. Not a fun prospect for down range enemy.
Just a morning detour question
Kein Wunder, dass bei solchen Ausbildungen, so viele im Feld geblieben sind. 🤔
Doch!
Aber immerhin wussten die bestimmt besser als du, wo man Kommas setzt und wo nicht.
@@Anvilshock Eure Sorgen möchte ich gerne haben. 🙄
@@0815Marodeur Dass das keine von dir war, seh ich auch.
This is the last movie alot of our boys saw. They had a hell of a war to right
Got an easy one, they said.
Just sit in a trench, they said.
Nobody told me that they'd be shooting live ammo !
They're not going to be able to hear anything to pinpoint the position of the enemy guns from the hearing loss and tinnitus they'll have.
"you better pick up that brass soldier"
There are soldiers made of brass? And why pick up those brass soldiers?
They're going to need a bigger gun. Fast.
👍
Were these sounds recorded on a typical Saturday night in North Tulsa?
In the first 5 minutes of this video they could've destroyed those sandbags with all the rounds fired and fell well beneath the targets
Are they shelling the poor ants with their rifles ?😂😂
It looks like the Army couldn't hit s*** then either😅
watching the guy stick his head up to look and see were the bullets are coming from, did the Americans lean nothing from the first world war?
They learned that to succeed they needed to do their own thing....
Old helmets, soon replaced.
Sure.sit around listening for bullets sounds. I will pass
where's the tommy gun and 1911? they were in infantry service in 42!!
Not applicable, 1. the round is slower then the 1100 fps of sound, 2. such close range use, < 50 yards that all is very obvious. Neither of these things are what this training film is for.
watching the guy stick his head up to look and see were the bullets are coming from, did the Americans lean nothing from the first world war?