Why do Logger Boots Have High Heels?
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Working outside on rough terrain can be tough on your feet, which is why logger boots have heels that provide additional support, especially on uneven ground. The heel helps maintain grip, improves your posture, and stops your boot from sinking into the mud.
It’s no surprise that logger boots are the go-to footwear for people working outdoors; if you need your boots to be strong, supportive, and versatile, logger boots are the perfect option. This style of boot has been a favorite of loggers for over a century, and with good reason. - Навчання та стиль
When riding a cantankerous horse in treacherous work, what you DO NOT WANT is your foot to go through the stirrup. Many a dead cowboy has been found hanging by one leg from a stirrup, drug and stomped to death unable to get himself out of the situation. A heel helps keep that from happening. It's not the only reason but it's a huge one.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You never want your foot "locked" to the stirrup.
I came to say the same thing.
Some of the refineries I've worked in require a heel for gripping their ladder rungs too. But then go look at any framer or roofer standing on a ladder and he will have a wedge or Chuck Taylors on. 🤷♂️
@@misterbulgerroofers have flat shoes as to reduce the potential of the shoe digging into the shingles. In the sun they become hot and because they’re made of asphalt they become very soft and easily become damaged if you’re wearing shoes that are too aggressive. The only exception really being metal roofing.
I gotta say though, while the heel helps with accidentally slipping forward and locking your foot in, you don't want to ride with the arch of your foot. You can get equally stuck if you do that. You want to ride with the ball of your foot.
Forest Service guy here. I highly highly do not recommend wearing high heel boots on regularly hard flat areas. The raised heel will mess with your back over time.
That being said, these company’s do make flat sole boots with the same high quality leather.
You walking on a lot of concrete in the forest?
@@Atreid3shard and flat doesn't just mean concrete. Hard packed gravel, packed down dirt, even wooden decks
you are correct. heels offer little shock absorption and are terrible for your joints and spine (both M and W) because they concentrate your weight, and therefore stress, in a smaller area. but he is trying to sell boots of course.
@Atreid3s there's a surprising amount of concrete in forests lol. I've happened upon a old town situation where it was mostly rubble and foundations left behind. I'm assuming there's also an inside portion of the job where you report info and have meetings. I've been a park ranger before and a lot of my job was indoors. The worst part about that is that hiking boots were part of the uniform and I loath wearing hiking boots inside. They're made for movement on uneven ground, not standing still on smooth inside floors
Could not agree with you more.
I got zero lift boots and foot aches , cramps went away.
Logger boots are actually terrible for concrete floors. Loggers are meant for soft terrain like dirt. Boots with foam or some kind of soft cushioning and a more modest heel height are best for concrete floors.
Tell that to the 80 percent of mechanics at my semi truck shop that wear em everyday at work 😂
I agree. but also people will wear what they want.
This. This dude has no idea what hes talking about.
@@luke8222Mechanics don’t walk much or walk quickly on concrete. Construction workers are constantly running around on concrete in commercial buildings and we all agree wedge soles are where it’s at.
I wear wedge sole boot for flat surface work. I was talked into buying Whites Smokejumpers when I was an apprentice. They fit perfectly and worked great for outside work. Inside work, unless you have bad feet, get a light flat sole boot. More than likely, you cannot resole them but, they break in fast and are light. Resole high dollar boosts vs purchase new light boots is negligible compared to break in time vs cost.
I was a lineman for the phone company, and we used boots with heels for working on ladders or climbing gaffs. Same as the stirrups, they lock right in securely.
Came to say the same
Same. Not in that industry anymore, but it was required that your heel was a minimum of 6in.
@spammanchan4622 😂
100% can confirm. Working on a ladder witih heelless, soft-soled shoes is both uncomfortable and dangerous.
If you’re going to regurgitate info on a topic you googled, at least get it right…
The slant on the back of the heel has nothing to do with locking into stirrups… it’s the high arch and the front surface of the heel.
Also, the tall heel does not absorb shock, the arch of the foot does. Having a large arch support keeps the arch of the foot from bottoming out and causing foot pain.
And foam wedges are best for working on concrete all day…
***Former ATSSA Instructor and Emergency Response TC. Current (3x) internationally certified arborist working in forestry and timber.
Wrong. They are so your climbing gaffs fit
Know it all
@@TheStuckNorris Go back and read what I wrote again…. I clearly stated it’s the high arch and front surface of the heel. The guy in the video was referring to the slant on the back of the heel being for stirrups…
Btw, I am an internationally certified arborist with a logging background.👍🏻
Lmao ok so this guy and everyone else that has anything to do with shoes is wrong
@@daytonearle9120 oh man you’re right, everything on the internet is true!
Hell no working on concrete all day with those high heels? Your crazy i had a pair of Nicks loggers got a job being a pipe fitter. Standing all day and walking around in high heel boots is the worst. Now when I was a Flying Lineman they worked great. Every worker on the site asked how I could be in those things. Flat sole/crep is the way to go
You forgot about the main reason. Tall heel loggers make is so your gaffs don’t touch the ground when you aren’t on the tree/pole.
It’s nice to be able to take a few steps away from the pole/tree without wearing down or damaging the actual spike on the gaff. Less maintenance required.
Thursday 'logger' boots are not logger boots. That heel is a Cuban stacked heel, not a logger stack.
Also, any leather stacked heel is a terrible choice for concrete work.
Miseducation is not good content, do your research.
@Retrakk The here we deserved
I wear logger boots. I have a connective tissue disorder and my ankles aren't steady. I wore a couple pairs of Ariat traditional paddock boots, which were tight enough to splint the ankles. I then got the tip that logger boots are *self correcting* for the most common ways weak ankles collapse, and tight enough to help general stability. I bought a pair and have barely worn other shoes in the year since!
Yo! Check out the Timberland's with logger heels. They are popular with folks with hypermobility (hypo-stability).
Logger boots will have your ankles and knees blown out instantly on concrete.
100% anyone who works on concrete all day should be wearing a wedge sole.
Especially with the caulks.
@@ADTheAwesome i wear loggers on concrete pretty often, honey vibrams are the key.
no they don't i wear nicks all day every day no problem,
The swept forward heel is purely for riding. Softer contact with stomach of horse…which on hard pull back kick can break skin if sharp.
the 2 in heart attack for us iron workers lol
They’re meant for tree work so you can hook climbing spurs to them and climb up a tree, they aren’t really meant to be worn outside of that.
Yup I have a pair of loggers for climbing poles, when I'm working out of the bucket I have a different pair
True but also used for traction on the mounting logging plots. I use mine when I'm climbing or not. Walk up a mountain in sloppy mud without.
@@kingsford6540same here… got a pole climbing pair and a bucket pair
It helps with walking down hill too because the front of the heel gets caught in the dirt
Traction isn't really the point.. It's better for walking up hill because it simulates being on flat ground even though you're on an incline. Think of the heel as a little ladder for the back of your foot. When you're going down hill, it actually makes it twice as BAD; putting your foot on even more of an incline. Now if it's soft dirt or sand, your heel will sink in and you won't really notice. But if you're walking down steep concrete-- that heel just makes you stand on your toes even MORE like a ballerina.. It's not great. But if you're on a logger hill and staring up hill all day and rigging cables and watching up hill at the winch truck operating and pulling logs uphill, etc. Then that heel really helps you a lot and makes your foot and the inside of the boot actually feel level-- like you're standing on flat ground. The reason logger boots are SO TALL in the heel, is because they work on really steep hills.. So the taller the better in that case.
100% dude! Dig your heels in and run down those hills. They are like little anchors.
~wildland firefighter
I bought some $280 hunting boots that had a unified sole. I wore them around before hunting season and they feel awesome. I live in Idaho and our mountains are steep. I found I was sliding around and struggling walking down hill with a pack. Without a heel the soft hill side were like ski jumps and I took a few tumbles. I will save my new boots for mall crawling and switched back to my old boots until find the money to buy another pair of boots. I am better educated. Also most soles now are designed not to track mud as opposed to having traction.
So, context from a history guy, the packer boot as heels go specifically had a high stacked heel. The Wellington was popular from the early to mid 1800s (and also in the trenches of WW1) was a modified hessian boot, both of which had low heels which were designed for horse riding originally! Heels go back even farther than that (how much farther I would have to look but they likely rise around the time of saddled horses) but the packers higher heel was important for farmers and pioneers. I love short form content but the struggle of having the full information takes time and when the origins of heels on boots is not the focus it isn’t going to be deep information on it. All of this information I am sure the creator knows I just want to provide the context for people as well!
It's also required for operating heavy equipment so you don't slip out of ladder rungs
Logger boots and rigger boots are comfortable to wear for long periods ❤❤❤
Old boots usually had high heels, even balmorals had high heels 😅
Logger boots have a heel for 3 reasons and 3 reasons only. He mentioned the first for the uphill. Next is the gear we use has to have a lock end this would be the heel keeping our gaffs in place. Lastly even groundsman must wear them at most logging companies for safety, on the downhill or log walking the heel will catch limbs and debris slowing or stopping your descent. Nothing to do with horses in the least.
Our boots have a groove in the heel to attach skis and snowshoes
I wear Ariat powerline boots, love their fit and comfort for a long day.
the heel also helps for wearing climbing spurs for topping or rigging
Had a cobbler reduce the heel when resoling. Fixed the problem of that forward tilt. Walking on concrete is 99 % of what I need.
Rocker soles with blue spring steel is best for concrete.
We always wore the high heel boots because of climbing spikes. Leather straps would keep them on the boot the heal kept it locked in the right spot.
I still like a heel on hiking boots.
Its nice to really dig your heels in on a hill or side hill.
I wear wedge soul boots, I'm constantly working from concrete floors and steel mesh catwalks. Really helps my feet and back.
Love using my packer or loggers boots, comfortable, look good and presentable, locks into ladders, many times I almost sprained my ankle but these boots are just sturdy, and more.
I cut down trees, I wear high heels, suspendies and a bra
As a real man should
Thank you!
Also helps for folks with fused ankles and/or drop foot. Was so happy when I found Timberland's with a logger heel.
I imagine the slant on the back of the heel makes it easier to get them of the mud, which is why they don't just go straight down.
"DUFF LAYER" in the woods-those heels are perfect for walking in that -u sink. I wore Whites (so comfortable) for years in the Forest Service
A podiatrist told me a few years ago that having a raised heel in your footwear helps naturally straighten your feet when walking as well, as opposed to them wanting to turn outward. Not sure I'd it is true but it sounded good.
Good information
seems like it helps more for walking downhill than uphill. walking up a steep hill barely engages the heel at all, whereas downhill is mostly heel and a raised heel would help dig in a created additional friction. never thought of that before, neat.
The notion that it supports your feet on concrete is only if you heel strike when you walk, but the more natural way to walk is with your midfoot landing first.
The slant in the heel of the cowboy boots is for combo walking /riding .
The slant allows the leg to have a longer stride whilst still maintaining full heel contact with the ground
😄👍Good Stuff, Great Tips
Not to mention the angle inside that heel allows you to stay attached to your ladder
Those rounded heels were also used by traditional ski clamps where a thick wire wrapped around that heel and was tightened by the toe clamp .
It's so the spikes will stay on the our feet the heel holds the bar from sliding off when you spike in it might help with walking on slopes but you really think that's the only reason you should do some more research before you make a video
When walking down the hill, the front bottom edge of the heal digs in.
The Northwest boot makers are offering softer sole material with lower heel height for working on hard surfaces. Heels when matched properly can shift your foot weight from your heel to the middle of the foot arch. You may have noticed with flat soled shoes and boots that you get heel pain after a long day on concrete and you keep trying to find insoles to cushion your feet which doesn't really work. You need more heel height to shift the weight forward. Too much heel and you lose foot roll and get a clunky hard walking boot that puts pressure on the front on your foot.
A high heel can also act like a wedge that weight lifters use for squatting. It can help to get into a deep squat for doing activities that are low to the ground.
They are good for climbing😊
That heel is also handy as a makeshift hammer. "Put the boots to it" was a phrase I grew up with. Love my Georgia boot loggers- but I only wear them for woods work.
I'd like to see your take on the build of newrock boots because though they are rather shock and awe they have been very durable in my experience
Lineman boot for hookin them poles
it has more to do with giving your lower back the correct arch it needs and relieving pressure on the lower lumbar discs
How does the profile of the back of the heel at all affect the fit in the stirrup?
Its for ✨FASHION!!!!!✨ they're strutting through the woods on their choppy choppy sawey sawey catwalk gurls
The heels also helps with stability walking over branches and logs that may want to roll.
They may provide shock absorption on hard floors, but they will KILL your back and make your calves feel tired. Soft flat soled boots is what you need for concrete floors.
I wear Carolina linemans boots, they absolutely suck when you're stuck doing groundwork but when I'm gaffing or tied off to a pole on a ladder for a long time I dont want anything else. They're also steel shanked so it spreads your weight over more of the boot when you're gaffed in or locked onto ladder rungs.
They are for wearing hooks when climbing. Wesco baby!
Also spurs for climbing
Great for short guys
Forest workers: "They make our asses look amazing."
I buy White's boots it's like walking on air and you can tear any terrain up with them
What brand of logger boots were in this video?
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They're also look good with my leather pants and chaps.
Use them to lock my heel in the rung of the latters when i step off a roof
Wildland Firefighter here to say getting rid of the logger style boot for a Scarpa style mountaineer boot was the best thing that has happened to the feet of my fellow firefighters. Almost everyone is making the switch except for the old timers who spent the last 20 years breaking in their loggers. Loggers are not great for hiking up to the fire. At all.
FYI……Slat is for deciding on hills so you don’t slip as you come down the hill….
Helps decending or crossing hills. You can plant your foot into soft slopes instead of slipping out and ending up on your arse . Sure footing is extremely important .
Fascinating insights in these comments.
At the end of a hard day on Brokeback Mountain, the old cowboys love to come down and kick up their heels and do some good old fashioned boot-scootin'.
I’m a lineman and the higher heal is what keeps my spurs on my feet
What does anti collision toe mean in boots please?
Can you do a rundown on Ron Desantis's boots?
The heel works great on rebellious babes.😮
877 redwing is all I wear
Because they like to feels pretty
Wedge sole for concrete/flat ground. At least for me that’s by far the most comfortable
I’ve been a laborer all my life and a hard soul shoe like you said the stacked leather it does not give you any extra absorption from the impacts of moving on hard surfaces take it from me 40+ years on my feet at a job a soft insert or do you far greater
I always wondered why the dance hall heels.
what material is used composite toes
Where did you get that sherpa demin jacket?
It's Levi's.
Barn worker here. I won't wear anything with a heel unless I'm riding.
Also when youre on steep angle the high heel raises your heels so it doesn't seem as steep
And the sloped packer boot heel orignates from the old cowboy boots
Any boot have 2 inch leather?
It’s hard to find work boots with a minimal drop, would love to see a 4mm drop legitimate steel toe work boot
You also forgot to mention how your climbing spurs are going to nest in there like a stirrup
Good for tall motorcycles too
The main and only reason that raised top lip exists today is mostly because of how they are made. Simply put, the machines they use to sew and cut the soles today leaves that portion of it there.
Watch how this style of boot is made. You will then realize yeah it can be sanded down. It's only an homage of the boots from the past really. In addition to the way it looks. You can easily get it shaped how u like nowadays.
These types of boots, when used, The top of the lip will fold down and be one of the first areas of issue in a boot like this today. It's kind of annoying that they still do this.
What top lip you mean the tougue? Or you on about the sole
@Elroy Fish Thank you.
Way to lift people up.
It's people like you that I thank god, the 2nd amendment exists.
@@elroyfish4295 lol, that was actually hilarious 😂
Nothing like a good old pair of broke in White boots to start the day logging! Good only in the forest and soft dirt!
Beautiful women's boots.
PSA: dont stick your feet all the way into stirrups!
Not only does it increase the chance youll get hung up if you fall off the horse,
Its just generally less comfortable than sitting the balls of your feet in which provides more shock absorption
Sure Bud, they’re Great for concrete👍.
Yes I would like to buy some stock in Red Wing Boots, please.
I live in the Rockies and have destroyed my last pair of $250 boots in a years use. I know I gotta go way up in price for a solid boot I spend days in on steep terrain. What should I be looking for?
I wear loggers on brick/concrete floors for 40 hours a week+, never bothered my back, personally I need insoles on any boot I wear so that obviously helps, to each there own, some people like loggers, some people like hiking boots, some people like the traditional mock toe iron worker boots
Seems like the comments agree… this guy has never worn work boots. Not in the woods, not in a shop. 🤷🏼♂️
I wish I could find a logger boot that fit my feet
logger boots have spikes in the sole for traction on logs. They are called caulks pronounced corks. Caulk boots , caulk shoes.
Stirrup boots have a shelf at the top of the heel.
The heel is to keep you from slipping THROUGH the stirrup and being dragged to death.
Happened to someone I was acquainted with, riding in tennis shoes.
you can walk straight down the side of steep ass hills with those, they dig in like a mountain goat.