Man, seeing Undyne here is a treat. She gets mentioned a lot in the other endings and her killing clover is shown in the game but she never took the spotlight. Poor Starlo, he gets it bad in most of the endings
The flawed pacifist one is so good I love Starlo..... I absolutely LOVE it when characters are like "it probably couldn't have gone any other way" in a medium where it provably could have, it gets me every time And Asgore's old letter - it's full of references to the unused files telling dataminers not to share what they find. Is it from Gaster, perhaps? That'd be interesting... Flowey's monologue was hilarious, I loved it.
OK, these are absolutely FANTASTIC! Had me hooked the whole way through! You genuinely thought of every possible scenario. (Stupid idea: Axis ending. Kill everyone but spare every Steamworks robot. Axis takes over the Underground and establishes a brutal totaliterian regime.)
Imagine someone seeing the undyne ending, that never played the original undertale (or heard nothing of it) and gushing over the possibility of a sequel with the mysterious knight (undyne) being the main antagonist
Well, Clover didn't actually die. What happened in the video where these are centered on was Starlo knocking Clover out and throwing him into the jail, but once he leaves to go get the guard, Flowey opens it and allows Clover to continue to the Steamworks, albeit with Aborted Genocide in mind this way.
Oh this is insane, it really feels like you thought of EVERYTHING. Confused on what 'Starlo Ignored' means for the Erasure Ending but the fact that ending is there goes to show the level of detail
In the video "What If you Never Surrendered", Martlet isn't there to tell Starlo whether you're human or not - so, if you tell Starlo that you're a human, things proceed as normal, but you can tell Starlo that you're not a human, in which case he'll leave you alone and you never make friends with him.
Yeah because with everyone she cared about dead, she legit has no more reason to live anymore. So she basically decided to suicide. She was right when she said she would never realize how much she cared about Starlo until he's dead which is shown in Pacifist route. She never considered Starlo at all.
Ngl its crazy considering this is the only one where she is the only one speaking. And it has to be some dark shinanigans. But like sans. She just ducks you if you ever kill any monster or kill starlo.
1. Its not hacking to be able to spare dalv in genocide, that's actually possible, and it doesnt abort your geno run 2. 31:40 does ceroba say anything different here if you chose "i'm sorry" after killing starlo?
God DAMN, the heartache ending genuinely made me cry right at the last line, thinking about how Ceroba likely killed herself after realizing that she had absolutely nothing left to live for and just giving up, what amazing writing you've done here.
@newstickyanimations3956 yeah, but there's a difference from hearing about it from someone else's perspective, and...basically hearing it from themself.
I gotta say, the neutral endings you came up with were amazing! I wanted something like this in the original, for all your choices to come back to haunt you, I'm glad you at least delievered!
even if theres a timeline where martlet kills clover, martlet is just gonna melt because monsters cant hold determination and they end up melting just like undyne and zenith martlet
@@TarnishedIsaac-dh3sh dont the monsters that have determination just die faster if the opponent attacks them? im pretty sure that the determination absorbed monsters just die after a bit longer
@@TarnishedIsaac-dh3sh the blue soul human was a genocider so wouldnt martlet suffer the same fate as kanako? also im pretty sure that chujin used the blue soul for his own stuff, while zenith martlets serum was from the true lab
I think an ending where you only kill some steamworks robots might be different, as Ceroba would probably beat herself up over thinking the human wasn't pure and leaving, but not saying it out loud to the others. She probably even attends Clover's funeral. Idk, maybe she tried to break into the lab after she left Clover.
Damn, these endings are absolutely FANTASTIC. I seriously cannot express the amount of emotion I can give to this as this is just amazing! From the bittersweetness at the start to the major guilt tripping as the LOVE increases. These endings really makes it feel like that this is the True Neutral route, and making the regular neutral route the more obligatory "what if-" in a way. Also that soundtrack, considering it's now called "Good news and Bad news", I wonder if the Neutral route was originally thought to be something like this? Anyways great work, I'm glad that I've kept up with the work you've done.
Well done video, while I am personally glad none of these are in game, as they are kinda antithetical to the point of Undertale Yellow's endings and Clover's character, these are all really interesting scenarios to think about, the Erasure ending probably being my favorite.
Robr0, this is the best thing I've ever seen along with the battle against Asgore that you created! I liked the endings of Heartbreak, Heartache (Ceroba) and Aborted Genocide the most. They are very emotional and I feel very sorry for Ceroba, it is very painful to lose family and a close friend. I would love to see a battle against Ceroba and Martlet, they would be the strongest duo ever! Robr0, a lot of respect to you for the work you have done, you are the best!
Brutal, but well-made. I love it. I think I have a lot of questions on this, but here's one real quick: Why exactly was Ceroba pissed at Starlo in the LV 6+ ending? Like, what did she want him to do? What does being "reckless and overbearing" have to do with Clover's murders?
@@redactedinfo8557 I guess so, but wouldn't Ceroba share some of the blame here? Not only did she go along with the whole thing, but she was the one who stopped Starlo when he tried to kill Clover, which was actually brought up in a later ending in this video.
Still, are you all forgetting that there's also the chance that the high LV could be from mosters killed outside of the dunes? LV6 needs 200 xp, a couple of monsters here and there in snowdin and the dark ruins, maybe Dalv too or just go pacifist up to the steamworks and kill Axis and that ending makes no sense as you can get LV6 without killing anybody in the dunes
The Heartache ending becomes even worse once you remember one little detail. Kanako is *alive.* Sure, she turned into a spoon at Alphys' lab and is probably amalgamated into some other monster... but she's *still alive.* And with Ceroba supposedly "doing something cowardly" at this ending... the fox child will be left completely alone after Undertale's Pacifist route. There's no mommy, no daddy, no uncle Starlo, no Dalv... At the best possible scenario, she's taken in by the Feisty Four, and that's only if the team hasn't disbanded by the time Frisk talks to Alphys. Remember: Clover left the Wild East in shambles by killing Starlo, so the possibility of the quartet following their own paths once their boss is gone is VERY high. So... yeah. Ceroba's not getting rid of her pain... it's just being passed on to her poor, defenseless and outcasted child.
this is so fun to watch oh my god, if only undertale yellow's neutral endings had these varying epilogues like in undertale proper, even if it would've been jarring because of how that means flowey wouldn't intervene 30:34 i love how flowey drops the coy act and seems legitimately uncomfortable when he imagines dying with nobody to remember him, like it's reminding him of his time as asriel and dredging up just the slightest bit of empathy from him
THANK YOU. you don't IMAGINE the pain that i had when i realized that the neutral ending is always the same no matter who dies. I didn't knew that i couldn't reach to Asgore in the main game, so i replayed it for *nothing* And that's because the creators of the game thought that it would be a great idea for Flowey to LITERALLY reset after playing the neutral route. So, at least i can feel a *bit* sastified now. Thank you too much for this, is deeply appreciated
These are all pretty well written and animated, you did a very good job on these, but there's a few things I would personally change (this will probably be long as I have a tendency to over explain things). Starting off small, you forgot about Undynes eye that shines out of her helmet in Undertale, seeing her armour standing there without it and just black voids for an eye was kind of uncanny, so I'd simply add that back, no other changes to that ending. Second, I would personally add Ceroba into some of the neutral endings (specifically the ones where Starlo is alive) since even after just the Wild East she ends up caring enough about Clover to send them a Warning Letter asking Clover not to fight Asgore as she doesn't believe that Clover can beat him, asking Clover to do something else with their life instead (she doesn't send this letter if Starlo is dead probably because she's still searching for him in that run). Third I would personally not have your LV effect Cerobas opinion on Clover or her relationship with Starlo (so long as Starlo is still alive at least), since she still ends up sending that letter to Clover, even if their a pretty high LV so long a Starlo is still alive (if anything I think it would make more sense for Ceroba to be more harsh on herself for ending up caring about Clover in runs where Clover has high LV after learning about Clovers killings). Lastly, I don't think that Starlo should be present in the Failed/ Flawed Pacifist ending as not only does it undo a consequence of that ending (Starlo hating you), but Starlo himself would still be pissed about Cerobas death. Ceroba was his best friend and had been so since they were children and they had a good enough relationship that even as adults with completely separate lives Ceroba still visited him with Kanako regularly to hangout and he changed his entire persona in an attempt to help her with her grief over losing her family, they cared about each other a lot so straight off the bat he's going to be more emotional than rational about her dying, but not only that before Martlet and Clover had arrived (against his orders mind you) he was starting to make some headway talking sense into Ceroba, then Martlet pops up with Clover despite him telling Clover to stay in the Wild East and Martlet started to antagonize Ceroba escalating the situation to a fight, and after he comes to, his best friend is dead, the person that killed her (a person he was protecting) is only willing to say sorry and not explain anything that had happened and Martlet is actively trying to justify her death despite the fact that she basically caused it by not listening to him (let's also not forget the fact that from Starlos perspective he had basically done the same thing Ceroba had done earlier and yet Clover let him live, so Clover not sparing Ceroba despite him being spared would not be okay to him), of course he's going to end up hating Clover (and personally I think he hates Martlet as well for all the reasons I previously mentioned and because he starts yelling over her the more she starts trying to justify Cerobas death) in the Flawed Pacifist ending as they basically caused the unnecessary and completely avoidable death of his best friend and then tried to say it was unavoidable (seriously all they had to do was stay in the Wild East until Starlo got through to her which again by the time you show up in game she already seems to be starting to cave to him). So quite frankly I don't think that Starlo would ever be willing to forgive Clover for Cerobas death, and I genuinely think he would hate Martlet as well. Again, awesome work on the writing and animation, it was genuinely well made, and I loved watching it and I hope I didn't come off as too harsh in my comment.
I swear i love so much this fanmade route so much that i hope that a mod drops that gives us the true neutral route ingame instead of just an amazing awesome animation
I would like to see an ending where Clover wins against Asgore, but, really on a fight, not just blasting him, would be interesting, becauss at a certain point of the fight(The fanmade one) Clover just gives up attacking, gives up using his soul to prevent Asgore from killing him, and that made me really confused, why would he even do that? He can use his soul to shoot the trident before it kills him, so why didn't he?
@@ranmoses2553 Also, that's another thing, monsters weren't supposed to be able to make an undodgable attack, when I saw Asgore doing that it was hella frustrating
@@GuriadoTerrorIndie Meanwhile Flowey: Well, I know, Flowey isn't a monster, but he still uses undodgable attacks. I think it works like, with great effort, you can kill a human with undodgable attack, but only if you are really powerful (like Flowey, who can even without souls capture any monster, in Pacifist), either your enemy is much weaker than you (Clover is really weak kid actually, he can win only in really special cases, and he cannot use saves without Flowey That's why Asgore won.)
This was absolutely worth watching. I love this. Especially how realistic Martlet is portrayed, instead of just being a silly goof outside of genocide.
This is great and all, but that Flawed Pacifist epilogue has some astonishing mischaracterisation of Starlo. Clover went up to his best friend of decades and killed her (it wasn't in self defence, Clover and Martlet were the ones who went to Ceroba), and he would never forgive such a person. Even if Clover can be absolved from blame because they're a child, that makes it Martlet's fault for bringing them there. Starlo would realise that. Starlo knows he can talk Ceroba down, and he does, as shown in the True Pacifist ending. Overall, that Flawed Pacifist epilogue is terrible and really discredits the bond Starlo and Ceroba had.
Starlo missed the entire fight though, last he saw Ceroba was dead set on taking Clover’s soul, and she was dust by the time he came through. Self defense would be the most logical conclusion considering Clover didn’t kill anyone up to that point, and Star would likely come to it given some time to cool off. He might not *forgive* Clover but he could come to an (albeit incorrect) understanding on why they did it.
@@Colddirector Clover travels to Ceroba knowing that she will try to kill them; that's pre-emptive confrontation. As a result, it's impossible to kill Ceroba in self-defence, not even during combat.
@@hetnixira2332 They travel to Ceroba to try and de-escalate the situation. The only other option was to try and hide in Snowdin for the rest of their life, which was an unrealistic plan even if Ceroba is spared. Ceroba responded by knocking out Martlet and Starlo, then trying to kill Clover. In actuality, Clovers at best morally gray for killing Ceroba (even if at her own request), but if all you saw was the beginning and the aftermath, well that looks a lot like self defense.
@@Colddirector Attempting to de-escalate the situation does not call for bringing Ceroba's target straight to her. That would endanger Clover's life, and potentially cause either their or Ceroba's death. If Martlet wanted to help the situation, she should have gone on her own. Hiding in Snowdin forever may be unrealistic, but no matter if Clover went to Ceroba or not, it would end up being the only option. If Clover has to resort to hiding for their life eventually anyway, there's no reason to put them in a conflict that could result in their premature death or Ceroba's death as well. What Ceroba did was wrong, of course, but it's still Clover's fault for going to Ceroba. And if Clover is blameless because they're a child, then Martlet is at fault for enabling them to go to Ceroba.
well pretty much that's the implication. Ceroba no longer has anyone by her side to give her a reason to live. I guess they didn't put the scene because it would take time to animate and it would be very dark xd
This was pretty cool and it was worth it. Also, where’s an ending where you kill all including the micro froggits and macro Froggit but only spare Starla or something
Honestly i've really liked this series, but i really wish someone would make an actual GOOD ending to UTY thats on the same level of quality as this neutral asgore fight series has been (Where it also isnt just the ending itself but how you get there too, like how in part one of this series we get to see clover going through the core!). An ending where you still get to help and make friends everyone but then not have your heart broken (pun intended) at the end of it. (Also isn't it still possible to break the barrier without clover needing to die?, as in undertale flowey just absorbs all the other souls in the underground anyway right?)
these are so well characterized and written that i almost wish we had these as neutral endings instead of the stalemate that Flowey brings us, but i guess the issue with that is we'd be cutting out the best boss fight in the game and the extra lore Flowey gives us on his motivations. otherwise, these are fantastic and i love them. so good
27:42 Im glad to removed the flowers and the broken bridge there bc back in UT Yellow, it seemed like frisk came before clover due to the broken bridge being there.
monsters in undertale yellow are canonically weaker then that of normal undertale. (that was the reason Flowery went out of his way to make it so that Clover will end up in the dark ruins) Clover is too weak to deal with normal undertale and only beat asgore in vengeance route where he get a huge buff.
Flowey is lying to keep Clover focused on reaching Asgore but also so that Clover doesn't get strong enough to overpower himself as why would beating Ceroba prove that Clover could easily beat Asgore (Flowey states this after beating Ceroba)? Especially when you consider that Ceroba has dialog implying she doesn't think she could take base Undyne and Asgore is stronger than base Undyne (Ceroba also has lower stats than both of them), not to mention that at a certain point in the Genocide run Flowey starts trying to discourage you from killing, calling it boring or a waste of time, and in the aborted Genocide Neutral Ending Flowey straight up admits that he's glad that Clover stopped their killing spree at the SteamWorks as they were getting a little too strong and it was worrying him.
@@tigertank1819 I really couldn’t care less about stats since in uty they’re actually accurate instead of arbitrary numbers by Toby Flowey has no reason to lie to you in the neutral fight and yet he repeats himself there whenever you’re a semi high LV If anything that last part only boosts my point. Flowey was getting worried at how strong clover was becoming. And flowey has killed asgore before so he knows exactly how strong he is
@@redbool1115 Nothing in regular Undertale suggests that Flowey has killed Asgore at all in-fact the fact that he says to Frisk that "Without you I never could of gotten past him" kind of goes against that idea, and even if he had that doesn't mean he beat him in a fight as off guard and betrayal kills are a thing that allows Monsters to be insta-killed (see what happened Martlet or really any betrayal kill in both games for proof of that). Flowey has every reason to lie to you as what he wants is for Clover to get to Asgore so that he will present the Human SOULs and then take up as much time as possible for him to be able to steal the human SOULs (Flowey does this in regular Undertale while you're either fighting Asgore or everyone is having a pow wow has he puts it), so Clover doesn't need to be strong enough to actually beat Asgore, just delay him long enough to steal the SOULS (which Clover fails to do in the Flawed Pacifist ending), hell Floweys line "I bet you could of outlasted Asgore if you bothered to reach him" during his boss fight where he's being more honest implies that he never thought that Clover could actually kill Asgore and he will still say this line even to a LV 12-13 Clover. Also, if you're going to ignore stats (which in Undertale are used to tell you how strong the characters within the context of the story and relative to each other) than let's do some basic power scaling based off of feats and statements, Ceroba has dialogue in the SteamWorks suggesting that she doesn't think she can Undyne in a fight, Ceroba at best is only capable of 2 shotting a LV 1 Clover, base Undyne on the other hand is shown to be capable of 1 shotting Clover in one of Flowey's Flashbacks, therefore base Undyne is stronger than Ceroba, base Undyne has dialogue within Undertale where she states that even if you get past her that no Human has ever made it past Asgore implying that she thinks he's stronger than her, Asgore also does more damage to Frisk than Undyne does, not to mention that the story itself builds Asgore up as the Strongest Monster in the Underground (Toby Fox also stated that Asgore in Undertale is holding back by a lot and Toriel is as well) he's also a Boss Monster which are naturally stronger than other Monster and he's clearly a trained fighter as well, so what we have here is clear Ceroba < Undyne < Asgore. With that hierarchy established, tell me what sense does it makes for Flowey to say that Clover can beat Asgore easily after beating Ceroba? And in case that doesn't convince you, Ceroba in the Neutral endings where you leave Starlo Alive will send a letter to Clover once they reach Hotland telling them that she doesn't think that Clover would be able to beat Asgore and to do something else with their life instead, and it's completely possible to enter the Wild East with Martlet at LV 11 meaning Ceroba doesn't even think that a LV 11 Clover could beat Asgore, so what sense would it make for Clover at only 1-2 LV higher to be able to beat Asgore?
@@tigertank1819 flowey has legit done genocide runs before. He even says he killed EVERYONE before. Him “never getting past asgore” is likely just him failing to get the souls from asgore rather than failing to kill him No, flowey absolutely has no reason to lie to you in the neutral fight, and that’s where he repeats himself saying you could’ve dealt with asgore. The neutral fight is where flowey loses it and snaps. He has absolutely NO REASON to lie to you at that point since his goal by that point was no longer to manipulate you And yes, the stats in undertale are definitely nonsense. 2 prime examples of that is undyne having better stats without her battle armor, and snowdrake’s mom being invincible despite having negative defense and dealing more damage than many other enemies despite having negative attack You mentioning exactly what flowey said in the neutral fight sounds like you admitting that I’m right 🤷♂️ the whole point of my comment is that level 12 clover would beat asgore Keep in mind that 1 level difference made clover go from making a big straight laser beam to a giant ray of doom that annihilated everything in its way. Literally
Now I wonder what would happen if ceroba managed to beat clover in pacifist, always found it kinda dumb that she wanted their soul yet always completely shattered it each time they lost
40:23 *Hello! *Can I speak to G... REFERENCE?! :0 SPAMTON IN UNDERTALE(or maybe only in Undertale Yellow😔) REAL?! 🤯 Also, is that "Portal" in any way connected to the DARK_PILLARS in the CORE? 🤔
I mean, at least in this concept(see the other videos for more info), even after Martlet said her last offer, Clover still deny a happy childhood to fight Asgore 2 times, then shot him, breaking her last hope of any good in Clover. In her own words "you would rather risk you life for the sake of vengence?" Or something like that, and in neutral, what Clover said changes depending on lv, so in a aborted geno, they probably weren't that sweet about denying it.
I just realized that there is one I don't really quite get: Let's say there was a Neutral Route where you ONLY kill Axis, who raises your LOVE to 6 IIRC, and it was at that point that Ceroba was with you and then aborts the original "mission" between you two in response to you killing him, as well as that Starlo still technically tried to inform you about the secrets in her house with Chujin's tapes and whatnot, but she prevents you from looking at the UGPS in the Steamworks to avoid you reading his mail regarding that. What sort of ending would that have lead to?
I'll be honest - I only used LV 6 as the cutoff between the "Good" Neutral Endings and the "Bad" Neutral endings because Undertale Yellow's Martlet rooftop Judgements used it as the cutoff as well - Originally, I had the cutoff for High LV Neutral changes at LV 8. I hadn't considered Axis very much when making this video because his whole theme in Neutral is having The Freedom to be Flawed (which is why he doesn't show up in any ending) but you are correct that Axis gives just enough EXP to mess with the system. For this specific case, then, I imagine it would probably just go into the LV 2-5 ending as well, but I could certainly imagine a new ending just for this case - a "flawed-flawed pacifist ending" perhaps. Maybe, in such a case, Starlo would be more torn up inside - In his mind, he would feel he scared Clover into running away from Ceroba right into Asgore, effectively switching from "possible danger" to "certain death". Since Starlo wouldn't know that Ceroba was stopping you from reading the mail, he would probably assume reading the letter is what caused Clover and Ceroba to split up. Good Question!
It would be interesting to see a ending with martlet talking with asgore, like what would've had happen, would clover live with martlet until is ready to have his soul taken away? Would martlet help in the fight? Or what would happen?
But in a longer answer, you're forced to chose Martlet if your lv is 0(only killed robots), and endup fighting Flowey. With a higher lv, you have the choice to deny it and go fight Asgore, with is in another different video, but you can still say you want to go with ber and fight Flowey. You'll also be forced to go to Asgore if you killed her in vengence (showed in another concept video)
I don't think sparing Dalv in Geno would make a difference, as he would abandon himself in his room forever, and from what we see, it's likely in the what-if scenarios, you can only kill Martlet in Genocide, not in Neutral.
Other than starlo showing up in flawed, I really like this! I really hope someone could mod this into the game at some point, it definitely feels like uty was lacking a bit in endings compared to undertale.
I could see it, in Martlet and Starlo minds, they never saw you chose betwen killing her or bot when she was down, they just think it was self defense while in battle
i personally disagree with this, imo uty did a really good job with the endings, neutral ending is meant to be a dead end no matter what, it's a big part of clover's whole shtick about having a soft spot for parental affection, always dropping his mission when getting the chance, same thing happening with toriel in the ruins before flowey intervened. Asgore is meant to be a red herring too, Flowey constantly hypes Clover up for his confrontation but he never quite gets there, except when he stands no chance and already gave up for the most part, or when Flowey ends up dead after creating the monster Clover became. Im not trying to be a hater or anything but its for the best these are just what if's, while lore wise they wouldn't fit they are neat scenarios.
@@IamDoru1 yeah, as much as I love theses endings and wouldn't mind them being canon, I'm also not mad that it means the only canon ending possible is pacifist
@@IamDoru1 i get what you're saying, but it also would be nice to see clover still having an impact on those they've met, even if they're being manipulated. Imo it just gives you a bigger connection to the cast by seeing how every small action you take still has a consequence despite floweys control (also replayability and an actual asgore fight are peak lol)
Wait, does this mean all of these endings are canon to Undertale? Since both Asgore and Flowey are alive and Clover's items end up in the dumpster one way or another.
I think there'd be more panic among ut chars if frisk came right after an aborted genocide run or if a high lv run had already occured previously, but these endings could work in canon, mostly.
I actually think it, could, spare it from some dark endings were Undyne is involved (vengence and Martlet killed for example), I feel like theses would make a bigger change in UT. But I still love how it raised the possibilities of true endings possibles
1) Impossible in neutral. 2) Would be nice, but it will be like Omega Flowey, but with bad ending. Clover just has a gun. His body and soul aren't strong like Frisk's (not enough DT, and the soul could be more powerful only with Axis incident)
Damn, i dont even think i will watch this all, probably i will die of sadness on half Also *GOOD JOB!* i wanted to make neutral endings too, but, yeeeee, it was way more boring than ur
Man, seeing Undyne here is a treat. She gets mentioned a lot in the other endings and her killing clover is shown in the game but she never took the spotlight. Poor Starlo, he gets it bad in most of the endings
The flawed pacifist one is so good I love Starlo..... I absolutely LOVE it when characters are like "it probably couldn't have gone any other way" in a medium where it provably could have, it gets me every time
And Asgore's old letter - it's full of references to the unused files telling dataminers not to share what they find. Is it from Gaster, perhaps? That'd be interesting...
Flowey's monologue was hilarious, I loved it.
im pretty sure its a letter from toriel after she moved to the ruins
Flowey would DEFINITELY make a great eulogy speaker for someone’s funeral
I have no clue why but I began laughing uncontrollably in the flowey segment, I think it's the way flowey just insults Clover.
flowey:
OK, these are absolutely FANTASTIC! Had me hooked the whole way through! You genuinely thought of every possible scenario.
(Stupid idea: Axis ending. Kill everyone but spare every Steamworks robot. Axis takes over the Underground and establishes a brutal totaliterian regime.)
Sadly, he can't...
Unless, of course, Frisk gets the MTT Ending in Undertale first, maybe? 🤔
@@ndres6955 Battle of the bots, Mettaton vs Axis
Axis would porb get no diffed by asgore.
Imagine someone seeing the undyne ending, that never played the original undertale (or heard nothing of it) and gushing over the possibility of a sequel with the mysterious knight (undyne) being the main antagonist
that would be like amazing
*Now I want a mod of this, adding not only these. But with the abilities to go to Asgore, kill Martlet, and die to Starlo’s draw of course.*
undertale yellow expantion
Well, Clover didn't actually die. What happened in the video where these are centered on was Starlo knocking Clover out and throwing him into the jail, but once he leaves to go get the guard, Flowey opens it and allows Clover to continue to the Steamworks, albeit with Aborted Genocide in mind this way.
Oh this is insane, it really feels like you thought of EVERYTHING. Confused on what 'Starlo Ignored' means for the Erasure Ending but the fact that ending is there goes to show the level of detail
I think it means throw your shot and then just leave with Flowey
In the video "What If you Never Surrendered", Martlet isn't there to tell Starlo whether you're human or not - so, if you tell Starlo that you're a human, things proceed as normal, but you can tell Starlo that you're not a human, in which case he'll leave you alone and you never make friends with him.
Ohhhh ok thanks for clarifying!
This is wayyy better than my ideas, this fleshes out these endings so much
Que onda causa
Yeah I actually came here from your video haha
Damn the Ceroba Heartache scene is DARK...
Yeah because with everyone she cared about dead, she legit has no more reason to live anymore. So she basically decided to suicide.
She was right when she said she would never realize how much she cared about Starlo until he's dead which is shown in Pacifist route. She never considered Starlo at all.
Ngl its crazy considering this is the only one where she is the only one speaking. And it has to be some dark shinanigans. But like sans. She just ducks you if you ever kill any monster or kill starlo.
1. Its not hacking to be able to spare dalv in genocide, that's actually possible, and it doesnt abort your geno run
2. 31:40 does ceroba say anything different here if you chose "i'm sorry" after killing starlo?
Honestly, the "hacker ending" seems more like the dog ending of undertale, something you really wouldn't find in a normal playthrough
God DAMN, the heartache ending genuinely made me cry right at the last line, thinking about how Ceroba likely killed herself after realizing that she had absolutely nothing left to live for and just giving up, what amazing writing you've done here.
that is my favorite one by the way
is it your favorite one?
So basically, she pulled an Alphys on us.
@@newstickyanimations3956 Yep
@newstickyanimations3956 yeah, but there's a difference from hearing about it from someone else's perspective, and...basically hearing it from themself.
I gotta say, the neutral endings you came up with were amazing! I wanted something like this in the original, for all your choices to come back to haunt you, I'm glad you at least delievered!
where is my what if Zenith Martlet defeats you ? even without that ,you did it great
even if theres a timeline where martlet kills clover, martlet is just gonna melt because monsters cant hold determination and they end up melting just like undyne and zenith martlet
@@riotladder that only happens when you kill them or killing ,also, i'm not sure if martlet gets determination
@@TarnishedIsaac-dh3sh dont the monsters that have determination just die faster if the opponent attacks them? im pretty sure that the determination absorbed monsters just die after a bit longer
I think the monsters who can't resist the determination just die after a while, but Zenith martlet gets the Blue soul, so maybe she can@@riotladder
@@TarnishedIsaac-dh3sh the blue soul human was a genocider so wouldnt martlet suffer the same fate as kanako? also im pretty sure that chujin used the blue soul for his own stuff, while zenith martlets serum was from the true lab
I think an ending where you only kill some steamworks robots might be different, as Ceroba would probably beat herself up over thinking the human wasn't pure and leaving, but not saying it out loud to the others. She probably even attends Clover's funeral. Idk, maybe she tried to break into the lab after she left Clover.
There wouldn’t be any ending there as clover would accept martlets offer and the flowey fight would happen
@@micahmarshall9078What if they killed Axis though, that would give them above LV1, and allow them to do Neutral Asgore.
Damn, these endings are absolutely FANTASTIC. I seriously cannot express the amount of emotion I can give to this as this is just amazing! From the bittersweetness at the start to the major guilt tripping as the LOVE increases.
These endings really makes it feel like that this is the True Neutral route, and making the regular neutral route the more obligatory "what if-" in a way.
Also that soundtrack, considering it's now called "Good news and Bad news", I wonder if the Neutral route was originally thought to be something like this?
Anyways great work, I'm glad that I've kept up with the work you've done.
Everything was so depressing... and then you hit me with the music for Hacker Ending and I actually laughed! Freaking Dogsong...
It's like Clover's in some king of.... dead
Damn bro I think they were killed 😢
@@omnicrete7470 Asgore cast a spell he didn't know 💀
Clover... I remember you're *genocides Yellow!*
Well done video, while I am personally glad none of these are in game, as they are kinda antithetical to the point of Undertale Yellow's endings and Clover's character, these are all really interesting scenarios to think about, the Erasure ending probably being my favorite.
Robr0, this is the best thing I've ever seen along with the battle against Asgore that you created!
I liked the endings of Heartbreak, Heartache (Ceroba) and Aborted Genocide the most. They are very emotional and I feel very sorry for Ceroba, it is very painful to lose family and a close friend. I would love to see a battle against Ceroba and Martlet, they would be the strongest duo ever!
Robr0, a lot of respect to you for the work you have done, you are the best!
Brutal, but well-made. I love it.
I think I have a lot of questions on this, but here's one real quick: Why exactly was Ceroba pissed at Starlo in the LV 6+ ending? Like, what did she want him to do? What does being "reckless and overbearing" have to do with Clover's murders?
not to mention that ot get LV6 you need to get 200 exp, so someone could just kill axis in steamworks and leave every other region murder free
@@andreaslefteri3661I mean I'd assume there'd be some slight changes if you went on a killing spree after you exited the wild east
i imagine it would be because Starlo saw this human who killed a bunch of monsters, but made them deputy and gave them shelter in the Wild East
@@redactedinfo8557 I guess so, but wouldn't Ceroba share some of the blame here? Not only did she go along with the whole thing, but she was the one who stopped Starlo when he tried to kill Clover, which was actually brought up in a later ending in this video.
Still, are you all forgetting that there's also the chance that the high LV could be from mosters killed outside of the dunes? LV6 needs 200 xp, a couple of monsters here and there in snowdin and the dark ruins, maybe Dalv too or just go pacifist up to the steamworks and kill Axis and that ending makes no sense as you can get LV6 without killing anybody in the dunes
15:48 Starlo was the killer all along!?
The Heartache ending becomes even worse once you remember one little detail.
Kanako is *alive.* Sure, she turned into a spoon at Alphys' lab and is probably amalgamated into some other monster... but she's *still alive.*
And with Ceroba supposedly "doing something cowardly" at this ending... the fox child will be left completely alone after Undertale's Pacifist route. There's no mommy, no daddy, no uncle Starlo, no Dalv...
At the best possible scenario, she's taken in by the Feisty Four, and that's only if the team hasn't disbanded by the time Frisk talks to Alphys. Remember: Clover left the Wild East in shambles by killing Starlo, so the possibility of the quartet following their own paths once their boss is gone is VERY high.
So... yeah. Ceroba's not getting rid of her pain... it's just being passed on to her poor, defenseless and outcasted child.
this is so fun to watch oh my god, if only undertale yellow's neutral endings had these varying epilogues like in undertale proper, even if it would've been jarring because of how that means flowey wouldn't intervene
30:34 i love how flowey drops the coy act and seems legitimately uncomfortable when he imagines dying with nobody to remember him, like it's reminding him of his time as asriel and dredging up just the slightest bit of empathy from him
39:14 Grammar error. It's "This is the best ending for me."
THANK YOU. you don't IMAGINE the pain that i had when i realized that the neutral ending is always the same no matter who dies. I didn't knew that i couldn't reach to Asgore in the main game, so i replayed it for *nothing*
And that's because the creators of the game thought that it would be a great idea for Flowey to LITERALLY reset after playing the neutral route. So, at least i can feel a *bit* sastified now. Thank you too much for this, is deeply appreciated
It just being Martlet feels like she is talking directly to us.
This entire video is so damn good, you’ve done a wonderful job at all these ‘what if’ scenarios, keep up the amazing work!!
These are all really really good. The quality of your work consistently impresses me
These are all pretty well written and animated, you did a very good job on these, but there's a few things I would personally change (this will probably be long as I have a tendency to over explain things).
Starting off small, you forgot about Undynes eye that shines out of her helmet in Undertale, seeing her armour standing there without it and just black voids for an eye was kind of uncanny, so I'd simply add that back, no other changes to that ending.
Second, I would personally add Ceroba into some of the neutral endings (specifically the ones where Starlo is alive) since even after just the Wild East she ends up caring enough about Clover to send them a Warning Letter asking Clover not to fight Asgore as she doesn't believe that Clover can beat him, asking Clover to do something else with their life instead (she doesn't send this letter if Starlo is dead probably because she's still searching for him in that run).
Third I would personally not have your LV effect Cerobas opinion on Clover or her relationship with Starlo (so long as Starlo is still alive at least), since she still ends up sending that letter to Clover, even if their a pretty high LV so long a Starlo is still alive (if anything I think it would make more sense for Ceroba to be more harsh on herself for ending up caring about Clover in runs where Clover has high LV after learning about Clovers killings).
Lastly, I don't think that Starlo should be present in the Failed/ Flawed Pacifist ending as not only does it undo a consequence of that ending (Starlo hating you), but Starlo himself would still be pissed about Cerobas death.
Ceroba was his best friend and had been so since they were children and they had a good enough relationship that even as adults with completely separate lives Ceroba still visited him with Kanako regularly to hangout and he changed his entire persona in an attempt to help her with her grief over losing her family, they cared about each other a lot so straight off the bat he's going to be more emotional than rational about her dying, but not only that before Martlet and Clover had arrived (against his orders mind you) he was starting to make some headway talking sense into Ceroba, then Martlet pops up with Clover despite him telling Clover to stay in the Wild East and Martlet started to antagonize Ceroba escalating the situation to a fight, and after he comes to, his best friend is dead, the person that killed her (a person he was protecting) is only willing to say sorry and not explain anything that had happened and Martlet is actively trying to justify her death despite the fact that she basically caused it by not listening to him (let's also not forget the fact that from Starlos perspective he had basically done the same thing Ceroba had done earlier and yet Clover let him live, so Clover not sparing Ceroba despite him being spared would not be okay to him), of course he's going to end up hating Clover (and personally I think he hates Martlet as well for all the reasons I previously mentioned and because he starts yelling over her the more she starts trying to justify Cerobas death) in the Flawed Pacifist ending as they basically caused the unnecessary and completely avoidable death of his best friend and then tried to say it was unavoidable (seriously all they had to do was stay in the Wild East until Starlo got through to her which again by the time you show up in game she already seems to be starting to cave to him). So quite frankly I don't think that Starlo would ever be willing to forgive Clover for Cerobas death, and I genuinely think he would hate Martlet as well.
Again, awesome work on the writing and animation, it was genuinely well made, and I loved watching it and I hope I didn't come off as too harsh in my comment.
I swear i love so much this fanmade route so much that i hope that a mod drops that gives us the true neutral route ingame instead of just an amazing awesome animation
32:50 soo this "ocupation ending" could be canon in some way
You can't kill martlet in neutral
Man this guy Made like a what if You could kill martlet in neutral 😐
HOOOOOOOLY YELLOW ITS PEAK, THE WRITING IS SO PEAKKK
OH MY GOD THE UNDYNE ENDING AND THE FLOWEY ENDING WHYS IT SO GOOD 😭😭
I would like to see an ending where Clover wins against Asgore, but, really on a fight, not just blasting him, would be interesting, becauss at a certain point of the fight(The fanmade one) Clover just gives up attacking, gives up using his soul to prevent Asgore from killing him, and that made me really confused, why would he even do that? He can use his soul to shoot the trident before it kills him, so why didn't he?
This is a Clover with level 13 in best,
His soul shots are most likely to weak to stop the trident.
@@ranmoses2553 Also, that's another thing, monsters weren't supposed to be able to make an undodgable attack, when I saw Asgore doing that it was hella frustrating
@@GuriadoTerrorIndieI mean sans did do something like that if you spare him
@@pogggaming4470because it was a betrayal attack
@@GuriadoTerrorIndie Meanwhile Flowey:
Well, I know, Flowey isn't a monster, but he still uses undodgable attacks. I think it works like, with great effort, you can kill a human with undodgable attack, but only if you are really powerful (like Flowey, who can even without souls capture any monster, in Pacifist), either your enemy is much weaker than you (Clover is really weak kid actually, he can win only in really special cases, and he cannot use saves without Flowey That's why Asgore won.)
This was absolutely worth watching. I love this.
Especially how realistic Martlet is portrayed, instead of just being a silly goof outside of genocide.
This was a great watch! Thank you for taking the time to put all these endings together!
This is great and all, but that Flawed Pacifist epilogue has some astonishing mischaracterisation of Starlo. Clover went up to his best friend of decades and killed her (it wasn't in self defence, Clover and Martlet were the ones who went to Ceroba), and he would never forgive such a person. Even if Clover can be absolved from blame because they're a child, that makes it Martlet's fault for bringing them there. Starlo would realise that.
Starlo knows he can talk Ceroba down, and he does, as shown in the True Pacifist ending. Overall, that Flawed Pacifist epilogue is terrible and really discredits the bond Starlo and Ceroba had.
Starlo missed the entire fight though, last he saw Ceroba was dead set on taking Clover’s soul, and she was dust by the time he came through. Self defense would be the most logical conclusion considering Clover didn’t kill anyone up to that point, and Star would likely come to it given some time to cool off.
He might not *forgive* Clover but he could come to an (albeit incorrect) understanding on why they did it.
@@Colddirector Clover travels to Ceroba knowing that she will try to kill them; that's pre-emptive confrontation. As a result, it's impossible to kill Ceroba in self-defence, not even during combat.
@@hetnixira2332 They travel to Ceroba to try and de-escalate the situation. The only other option was to try and hide in Snowdin for the rest of their life, which was an unrealistic plan even if Ceroba is spared.
Ceroba responded by knocking out Martlet and Starlo, then trying to kill Clover. In actuality, Clovers at best morally gray for killing Ceroba (even if at her own request), but if all you saw was the beginning and the aftermath, well that looks a lot like self defense.
@@Colddirector Attempting to de-escalate the situation does not call for bringing Ceroba's target straight to her. That would endanger Clover's life, and potentially cause either their or Ceroba's death. If Martlet wanted to help the situation, she should have gone on her own.
Hiding in Snowdin forever may be unrealistic, but no matter if Clover went to Ceroba or not, it would end up being the only option. If Clover has to resort to hiding for their life eventually anyway, there's no reason to put them in a conflict that could result in their premature death or Ceroba's death as well.
What Ceroba did was wrong, of course, but it's still Clover's fault for going to Ceroba. And if Clover is blameless because they're a child, then Martlet is at fault for enabling them to go to Ceroba.
You're too good for us!
Imagine having axis turn up that would be interesting
Perhaps also an aborted ending
Starlo shouldn't be in flawed pacifist but other than these are neat!
32:46 why after this line I thought that she’s gonna jump?
well pretty much that's the implication. Ceroba no longer has anyone by her side to give her a reason to live. I guess they didn't put the scene because it would take time to animate and it would be very dark xd
Ceroba commited sew side
Wait.... A SPAMTON CLONE ?
This was pretty cool and it was worth it. Also, where’s an ending where you kill all including the micro froggits and macro Froggit but only spare Starla or something
Honestly i've really liked this series, but i really wish someone would make an actual GOOD ending to UTY thats on the same level of quality as this neutral asgore fight series has been (Where it also isnt just the ending itself but how you get there too, like how in part one of this series we get to see clover going through the core!). An ending where you still get to help and make friends everyone but then not have your heart broken (pun intended) at the end of it.
(Also isn't it still possible to break the barrier without clover needing to die?, as in undertale flowey just absorbs all the other souls in the underground anyway right?)
Dalv is so aggressive and blames humans like he wasn’t the one who attacked the blue soul first 😭
1:39 Martlet: right🐦
Okay ngl hacker ending is probably the most endearing for Dalv.
Love to see it.
32:38 Oh man that is DARK
At the end she quite literally admits to wanting to pull and alphys
I'm really glad this is exist
I really want more of these content
these are so well characterized and written that i almost wish we had these as neutral endings instead of the stalemate that Flowey brings us, but i guess the issue with that is we'd be cutting out the best boss fight in the game and the extra lore Flowey gives us on his motivations.
otherwise, these are fantastic and i love them. so good
It must be in game
27:42
Im glad to removed the flowers and the broken bridge there bc back in UT Yellow, it seemed like frisk came before clover due to the broken bridge being there.
me waiting to see whats in that room to the right in the core
You don’t seriously think level 12 clover loses to asgore right? Flowey himself said clover easily would get past him
monsters in undertale yellow are canonically weaker then that of normal undertale.
(that was the reason Flowery went out of his way to make it so that Clover will end up in the dark ruins)
Clover is too weak to deal with normal undertale and only beat asgore in vengeance route where he get a huge buff.
Flowey is lying to keep Clover focused on reaching Asgore but also so that Clover doesn't get strong enough to overpower himself as why would beating Ceroba prove that Clover could easily beat Asgore (Flowey states this after beating Ceroba)? Especially when you consider that Ceroba has dialog implying she doesn't think she could take base Undyne and Asgore is stronger than base Undyne (Ceroba also has lower stats than both of them), not to mention that at a certain point in the Genocide run Flowey starts trying to discourage you from killing, calling it boring or a waste of time, and in the aborted Genocide Neutral Ending Flowey straight up admits that he's glad that Clover stopped their killing spree at the SteamWorks as they were getting a little too strong and it was worrying him.
@@tigertank1819 I really couldn’t care less about stats since in uty they’re actually accurate instead of arbitrary numbers by Toby
Flowey has no reason to lie to you in the neutral fight and yet he repeats himself there whenever you’re a semi high LV
If anything that last part only boosts my point. Flowey was getting worried at how strong clover was becoming. And flowey has killed asgore before so he knows exactly how strong he is
@@redbool1115 Nothing in regular Undertale suggests that Flowey has killed Asgore at all in-fact the fact that he says to Frisk that "Without you I never could of gotten past him" kind of goes against that idea, and even if he had that doesn't mean he beat him in a fight as off guard and betrayal kills are a thing that allows Monsters to be insta-killed (see what happened Martlet or really any betrayal kill in both games for proof of that).
Flowey has every reason to lie to you as what he wants is for Clover to get to Asgore so that he will present the Human SOULs and then take up as much time as possible for him to be able to steal the human SOULs (Flowey does this in regular Undertale while you're either fighting Asgore or everyone is having a pow wow has he puts it), so Clover doesn't need to be strong enough to actually beat Asgore, just delay him long enough to steal the SOULS (which Clover fails to do in the Flawed Pacifist ending), hell Floweys line "I bet you could of outlasted Asgore if you bothered to reach him" during his boss fight where he's being more honest implies that he never thought that Clover could actually kill Asgore and he will still say this line even to a LV 12-13 Clover.
Also, if you're going to ignore stats (which in Undertale are used to tell you how strong the characters within the context of the story and relative to each other) than let's do some basic power scaling based off of feats and statements, Ceroba has dialogue in the SteamWorks suggesting that she doesn't think she can Undyne in a fight, Ceroba at best is only capable of 2 shotting a LV 1 Clover, base Undyne on the other hand is shown to be capable of 1 shotting Clover in one of Flowey's Flashbacks, therefore base Undyne is stronger than Ceroba, base Undyne has dialogue within Undertale where she states that even if you get past her that no Human has ever made it past Asgore implying that she thinks he's stronger than her, Asgore also does more damage to Frisk than Undyne does, not to mention that the story itself builds Asgore up as the Strongest Monster in the Underground (Toby Fox also stated that Asgore in Undertale is holding back by a lot and Toriel is as well) he's also a Boss Monster which are naturally stronger than other Monster and he's clearly a trained fighter as well, so what we have here is clear Ceroba < Undyne < Asgore.
With that hierarchy established, tell me what sense does it makes for Flowey to say that Clover can beat Asgore easily after beating Ceroba?
And in case that doesn't convince you, Ceroba in the Neutral endings where you leave Starlo Alive will send a letter to Clover once they reach Hotland telling them that she doesn't think that Clover would be able to beat Asgore and to do something else with their life instead, and it's completely possible to enter the Wild East with Martlet at LV 11 meaning Ceroba doesn't even think that a LV 11 Clover could beat Asgore, so what sense would it make for Clover at only 1-2 LV higher to be able to beat Asgore?
@@tigertank1819 flowey has legit done genocide runs before. He even says he killed EVERYONE before. Him “never getting past asgore” is likely just him failing to get the souls from asgore rather than failing to kill him
No, flowey absolutely has no reason to lie to you in the neutral fight, and that’s where he repeats himself saying you could’ve dealt with asgore. The neutral fight is where flowey loses it and snaps. He has absolutely NO REASON to lie to you at that point since his goal by that point was no longer to manipulate you
And yes, the stats in undertale are definitely nonsense. 2 prime examples of that is undyne having better stats without her battle armor, and snowdrake’s mom being invincible despite having negative defense and dealing more damage than many other enemies despite having negative attack
You mentioning exactly what flowey said in the neutral fight sounds like you admitting that I’m right 🤷♂️ the whole point of my comment is that level 12 clover would beat asgore
Keep in mind that 1 level difference made clover go from making a big straight laser beam to a giant ray of doom that annihilated everything in its way. Literally
The effort you put into these is absolutely amazing!, great job!
*Martlet talking about all the bad shit clover did*
The player knowing full well they did it: 🚬🗿
This is bound to be amazing also sorry I haven't subscribed before now
It was amazing 😊
Now I wonder what would happen if ceroba managed to beat clover in pacifist, always found it kinda dumb that she wanted their soul yet always completely shattered it each time they lost
29:06
That qoute fits with most heroes
Dalv is just an asshole in the 6 LV ending. This kid has been attacked left and right, how DARE they fight back and defend themselves?
40:23 *Hello! *Can I speak to G... REFERENCE?! :0
SPAMTON IN UNDERTALE(or maybe only in Undertale Yellow😔) REAL?! 🤯
Also, is that "Portal" in any way connected to the DARK_PILLARS in the CORE? 🤔
Not sure that i agree with what Martlet says. I mean, doesn't she believe that there is still some good in Clover even in aborted geno?
I mean, at least in this concept(see the other videos for more info), even after Martlet said her last offer, Clover still deny a happy childhood to fight Asgore 2 times, then shot him, breaking her last hope of any good in Clover.
In her own words "you would rather risk you life for the sake of vengence?" Or something like that, and in neutral, what Clover said changes depending on lv, so in a aborted geno, they probably weren't that sweet about denying it.
I just realized that there is one I don't really quite get:
Let's say there was a Neutral Route where you ONLY kill Axis, who raises your LOVE to 6 IIRC, and it was at that point that Ceroba was with you and then aborts the original "mission" between you two in response to you killing him, as well as that Starlo still technically tried to inform you about the secrets in her house with Chujin's tapes and whatnot, but she prevents you from looking at the UGPS in the Steamworks to avoid you reading his mail regarding that.
What sort of ending would that have lead to?
I'll be honest - I only used LV 6 as the cutoff between the "Good" Neutral Endings and the "Bad" Neutral endings because Undertale Yellow's Martlet rooftop Judgements used it as the cutoff as well - Originally, I had the cutoff for High LV Neutral changes at LV 8. I hadn't considered Axis very much when making this video because his whole theme in Neutral is having The Freedom to be Flawed (which is why he doesn't show up in any ending) but you are correct that Axis gives just enough EXP to mess with the system. For this specific case, then, I imagine it would probably just go into the LV 2-5 ending as well, but I could certainly imagine a new ending just for this case - a "flawed-flawed pacifist ending" perhaps. Maybe, in such a case, Starlo would be more torn up inside - In his mind, he would feel he scared Clover into running away from Ceroba right into Asgore, effectively switching from "possible danger" to "certain death". Since Starlo wouldn't know that Ceroba was stopping you from reading the mail, he would probably assume reading the letter is what caused Clover and Ceroba to split up. Good Question!
@Robr0Gaming Alright, thanks for answering!
good lord. I loved every ending. its so good. very good. make me happy. very happy. so happy that i could die. (happy aka happy)
Let's break the [STRINGS] of fate and find [Freedom] maybe then well achieve [HEAVEN] of good ending
It would be interesting to see a ending with martlet talking with asgore, like what would've had happen, would clover live with martlet until is ready to have his soul taken away? Would martlet help in the fight? Or what would happen?
I wonder what if the [[surprise]] ending was the canon ending
i think they're trying to imply that it is
Is the implication here that Aborted Genocide is the canon ending?!
It's implied that all of the endings COULD be canon because they all can lead to undertale
There isn't a canon ending here.
Good work!❤
These are like funerals for Clover
32:48 Did she? That’s dark!
Please make a fangame/mod of this.
That would be awesome!
I want that to happen
Man, I wish you worked on this game
So the only way to see Nightmare Flowey wouls be to only attack Martlet?
In short, you can have the Flowey fight in all neutrals, you if you wish to do it
But in a longer answer, you're forced to chose Martlet if your lv is 0(only killed robots), and endup fighting Flowey.
With a higher lv, you have the choice to deny it and go fight Asgore, with is in another different video, but you can still say you want to go with ber and fight Flowey.
You'll also be forced to go to Asgore if you killed her in vengence (showed in another concept video)
@@ViniciusDiasissykinda goes against the point of the game to have Clover not choose to stay with Martlet in all scenarios, but yeah pretty much.
I think this is feel unreal to me
If there is no ceroba there is no dalv, because dalv has connection with ketsukane family
I hope we get a what if ceroba went to the lab in the pacifist route
What if Dalv and Starlo are alive
but Martlet is killed
I don't think sparing Dalv in Geno would make a difference, as he would abandon himself in his room forever, and from what we see, it's likely in the what-if scenarios, you can only kill Martlet in Genocide, not in Neutral.
最後はなんだ……?
you are doing great!
good lord flowey did not hold back 💀
BRO COOKED
4:04 i thought martlet is, you know, dead. How tf is she there?
Why would she be dead?
@@ranmoses2553 because flowey pierced her
@@MikeEhrmantraut598 all of the endings are for a what if scenario of Clover not agreeing to stay with Martlet and going to fight Asgore
@@ranmoses2553 oh yeah? Sorry i suck at english
@@MikeEhrmantraut598 you are better then me at least.
The channel has the what if asgore fight, you should check it out.
Dunno why but I feel so many Hamilton references in this. Like it's impressive.
I acutally had a thought. What if Clover got martlet determinarion vile?
Other than starlo showing up in flawed, I really like this! I really hope someone could mod this into the game at some point, it definitely feels like uty was lacking a bit in endings compared to undertale.
I could see it, in Martlet and Starlo minds, they never saw you chose betwen killing her or bot when she was down, they just think it was self defense while in battle
i personally disagree with this, imo uty did a really good job with the endings, neutral ending is meant to be a dead end no matter what, it's a big part of clover's whole shtick about having a soft spot for parental affection, always dropping his mission when getting the chance, same thing happening with toriel in the ruins before flowey intervened. Asgore is meant to be a red herring too, Flowey constantly hypes Clover up for his confrontation but he never quite gets there, except when he stands no chance and already gave up for the most part, or when Flowey ends up dead after creating the monster Clover became. Im not trying to be a hater or anything but its for the best these are just what if's, while lore wise they wouldn't fit they are neat scenarios.
@@IamDoru1 yeah, as much as I love theses endings and wouldn't mind them being canon, I'm also not mad that it means the only canon ending possible is pacifist
@@ViniciusDiasissy Very well said! Clover is a really complex character, and I'm very happy with what the devs did with them.
@@IamDoru1 i get what you're saying, but it also would be nice to see clover still having an impact on those they've met, even if they're being manipulated. Imo it just gives you a bigger connection to the cast by seeing how every small action you take still has a consequence despite floweys control (also replayability and an actual asgore fight are peak lol)
Wait, does this mean all of these endings are canon to Undertale? Since both Asgore and Flowey are alive and Clover's items end up in the dumpster one way or another.
I think there'd be more panic among ut chars if frisk came right after an aborted genocide run or if a high lv run had already occured previously, but these endings could work in canon, mostly.
I actually think it, could, spare it from some dark endings were Undyne is involved (vengence and Martlet killed for example), I feel like theses would make a bigger change in UT.
But I still love how it raised the possibilities of true endings possibles
@@ViniciusDiasissyThe Martlet killed one does tie into why Undyne doesn't let Papyrus into the Royal Guard so easily compared to Martlet
32:19 HAMILTON REFERENCE?
are you perhaps taking a break from Undertale Yellow what ifs?
17:07 is that a Bo Burnam reference?
SPAMTON G. SPAMTON
32:18 Hamilton reference???
Make a video where clover syrvives the fight with asgore and flowey steals the souls
it seems like you are making something different because of that cutscene in the video
Now do one where Clover defeats Asgore and battles Flowey with the souls /j
/srs
1) Impossible in neutral.
2) Would be nice, but it will be like Omega Flowey, but with bad ending.
Clover just has a gun. His body and soul aren't strong like Frisk's (not enough DT, and the soul could be more powerful only with Axis incident)
@@secretconsumer8836. ok. but. it's fun
Undyne cameo 35:17
Damn, i dont even think i will watch this all, probably i will die of sadness on half
Also *GOOD JOB!* i wanted to make neutral endings too, but, yeeeee, it was way more boring than ur
What about aborted geno with Dalv alive? (Same conditions as aborted geno route but you do the scarf spare for dalv to be alive)
He abandon's himself in his room if spared in Genocide, and most likely wouldn't appear for the cutscene if spared.
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