Man beautiful car. Love the look of these old audis we had an audi 100 and it was super reliable, never broke down. Only reason we sold it is that we couldn't afford to fix it up for inspection.
Thank you, mate! Those old Audis (and other German cars from the 90s) really looked very authentic and are still running after 30+ years. However, inspections really tend to be strict with this cars, especially in the Western countries, due to CO2 emissions etc.
Smart man. Cars are a tool. Car culture will make you poor. I have driven beaters for 39 years. I have big bucks in investments and my home is about $900k. I drive a 2016 spark ev. I put a tow hitch on it for my trailer and I use it like a truck. I have never had a car loan my entire life.
"car culture" unless you're rich to afford a sports car and its maintenance, taxes and the rest of expenses, it really isn't worth it to be a "car guy". Oh and if you live outside the UK or US. There's no place to let loose on a race track and street "racing" I don't even want to start what's wrong with that, from public safety to potholes. Just buy an used old car, doesn't even have to be the mythical toyota tier reliable, just maintain it properly and it will serve you right.
Very smart, although in Australia, those German cars are incredibly expensive to maintain, over here Japanese and Australian cars are the smartest cars to buy due to reliability, cost of parts, and are affordable. Sacrifice now while you are young and set up your future.
Interesting insight! In Easter Europe the old German cars are pretty cheap, you can buy one for 1.5k - 2k EUR (= 2.4k AUD) and the maintenance cost is also pretty low. I suppose that it is just due to Germany being pretty close to my part of the world, due to which we had a huge influx of old German cars in 2000s. And what are some examples of good Australian cars/beaters? :) Genuinely interested to know.
@ yes the German cars here arnt as common, so parts are less common, also being on the other side of the world, getting parts here is more difficult, they really are a money pit. For Australian cars, you are looking at Holden Commodores and Ford Falcons, in the 10-25 year old range in the 6 cylinder instead of 8 cylinder. My first car was a commodore, I sold at 550,000kms. But these cars can get very expensive for their performance car versions, like a Holden HSV GTSR or a classic Ford Falcon GTHO where they can cost more than houses. They are similar to American muscle cars.
We should be grateful to all the suckers buying new cars so we can buy them when the bulk of the depreciation has already happened. I used to drive a 1998 Mazda 323 1.8. Other than the rust that car was pretty good. The engines were bullet proof and smooth, though a bit noisy on the motorway. One drawback of 1990s cars is that a lot of safety features were introduced in the decade following. 2010-2015 Japanese cars are a good balance, so long as you don't have rust. Fortunately, rust is less of a problem in this era compared to the decade previous, with Mazda at least. I drive a Volkswagen ID.3 now, and though I like it, it's a lease that is more expensive than it needs to be. Even after tax exemptions. I'll be going back to a used sub-€10k car after this. Our other car is a 2009 Mazda 2 1.5 GT-M without the heated seats (do get the heated seats, that's the only option we don't have) and that's such an underrated car. It's peppy, comfortable, and drives like a semi-confortable go-kart. Great first car.
I heard that Japanese cars have big problems with rust, especially in the Northern parts of the world, where the weather is not as good. Btw, how do you find driving an electric vehicle after driving a petrol?
@@ShubnikovTV Mostly it was how Audi chose to wire certain electrical systems. After refreshing the engine and manual gearbox car was pretty good then out of nowhere decided to not start and no matter what we tested and replaced it wouldn't start. somehow in the end the issue was an AC relay haha. Aside from that comparing to the Benz of the generation the Audi was always a bit more demanding and the interior seemed to decay faster. Fast forward 3 years after this, we wanted to give it another try and found a nice optioned Audi 90 with the V6. That one needed way more work. I don't think they lasted as long and it's a bit telling with how many you see left on the road today. You'll see way more W124 in Australia kicking around with no rust and decent paint as opposed to the Audi's. Same story goes with the newer stuff 90s 00s. As far as W124 reliability goes my 230e i drove for 1 year 12000kms with no functioning coolant fan. One i was lazy to fix it and two i was curious to see how long it would last and yes with only a new thermostat and water pump it never overheated on me. I bought the car for an engine swap and did minimal to get it going. and somehow ended up dailying it instead. (coolant fan now fixed by the way haha) Overall I'd say 80s and 90s cars are way more reliable than new stuff. But even if you have to invest some money into them, your dollar generally goes further and more value for your money.
UA-cam algorithm sent me here. Saw an Audi 80, I clicked. Mostly agree with your take, except the TOYOTA part. A 15 year old Toyota holds great resale value even as a second or third owner. They are really economical, cheap to run and most importantly don't break down even after hundreds of thousands of kilometers. So if you are willing to spend a bit more to drive a nicer and safer vehicle, it still isn't a bad financial decision. Same goes for Honda too. Great choice on the Audi 80, since they simply don't rust, unlike my beloved BMW e36 😂. Don't get me wrong, I love me a beater, but technically they should be more expensive to run than an 15 year old Japanese vehicle (except Nissan, which is a Reno underneath). If you are like me and still want your 30 year old car to be in tip top shape regarding engine performance, suspension, rust free body panels and so on... that parts bill can get out of hand pretty quickly. 😂 If you don't mind your car having rattles, some weird sounds, not so regular engine maintenances, somewhat of an okay suspension, breaks, tires and so on, than yes, you are spot on with the cost of running an old car. Yes, I know that the point of a BEATER is not to give a crap, but still, IMO, some things can't be ignored. We only have Eastern Europe's mentality to blame for that, since we all know that almost anything can pass a pre registration inspection over here. 🤣 And yes, your car does not have airbags, but it has a rather smart mechanical system that pulls your steering wheel away from you in a crash. It's quite impressive, you should look it up. Good luck in the future and all the best, I hope you get to have a nice vehicle one day. 😊
Thank you for taking time to write such a detailed comment! Really appreciate it. Regarding Totota, I will take a look, since that sounds pretty awsome. Yes, Audi 80s somehow really do not rust, even in pretty harsh weather conditions, which is pretty awsome! Regardiung the ideal car shape, I would not say that I am actually a petrol-head and that is why it is most important for me that the car looks good and drives without some crazy noises :) Thank you for the info about the steering wheel! I tried to google it, but did find anything yet. Do you know a more precise name of the system?
@@ShubnikovTV My pleasure mate. My old man had a brand spanking new Audi 80 and drove it for more than 10 years. I basically grew up in the thing, so it is my Achilles heel. 😊 They have a zinc-coated galvanized bodyshell. That's why they are rust free. The system I was talking about is called Procon Ten. If I'm not mistaken, Audi implemented it first but airbags became a thing shorty after so a lot of people don't really know about it. Link: ua-cam.com/video/6JX_CFlFZ0w/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ROVR
I think your old Audi is probably more comfortable than a Corolla that is 10 - 15 years old. Cars from the 70's and older generally appreciate in value.
interesting take..I suppose that Corolla is more comfortable just bcs it has air conditioning :) and yes, old cars after some point definetely increase in value!
@@ShubnikovTV You're a very clever bloke for someone so young. The only caveat with an old car is you can buy a complete pile of rubbish that costs a fortune to keep on the road. The best old cars to buy are Japanese; Mazda and Toyota particularly...
True, especially as old car as this one. Hell, my is from 2010 and I bought it with 220000 km and those km were at lower side of the spectrum for that model.
I recently sold my newer car to buy a 2014 Kia Cee'd with over 250,000 km on the clock. It's already depreciated enough, but also is quite modern with cruise control and Bluetooth I'm literally saving up to get a decent used EV, but in the meantime it is enjoyable to drive a car without worrying too much about 'protecting' its value
One reason driving older cars is their time is running out and good examples becoming more scarce so in future I may have no more chance driving them in the future. For example I wanted 1 series and was deciding between e87 or f20 (we don't talk about f40). In the end I went with older e87, since I will have chance to get a f20 in next 5-10 years, while number of e87s shrink. Of course I could go for even older compact, but that was too old for me, as is harder to get a good example, many features may be outdated, parts harder to find and worse fuel consumption since I still do 20k km a year.
I drive a Volvo V50 from 2004 in Germany and totally share the same views as yours. Knowing the car is not expensive is a kind of freedom. I can park it wherever I want for free and can avoid expensive paid parking. Compared to the 90s Audi 80, the Volvo is very comfortable and has better safety features. When things break and they do, I only repair what I think is worth repairing. For example, the AC broke, (repair cost is estimated at 1000€) I decided to leave it broken, as the really hot summer days are not so many. One more thing I like about it is that I can do some repairs myself and see how the car is constructed. On a new car I would be more afraid of doing repairs myself as I would be afraid of breaking something expensive.
Volkswagen Vento is a great car, especially if you can find one from Germany. Very reliable and cheap in maintenence. If I am not mistaken the details from golfs also suit Vento and therefore are pretty cheap in Europe.
@ShubnikovTV Yeah most of these Ventos go for around 1000-1500€ in Finland, hard to find any car cheaper than that to be honest, except for maybe golfs
Mature take, I have the same way of thinking about money, but a different approach. its riskier however by buying a JDM legend and doing the legwork of facilitating and importing it, its an instant $10k added value where i live + whatever appreciation its likely to add. it allows me to own a dream car and justify the cost somewhat. ALSO, remember we are all finite beings, on a rock with 0 guarantee of living till tomorrow, focusing too much on the future can be just as misguided as ignoring it entirely.. anyway great video and good luck achieving your goals :)
Totally agree with your take! As someone said “there are no rich people at the cemetery”. So, I also think that it is also important to enjoy the life (including cool material stuff). However, I think that we all should try our best to enjoy our lifestyle not because of what we have/don’t have, but just because we are alive. Yet, it is not an easy task :)
But if you include the cost of manteinance, you hardly get big profit of JDM "investing", but at least you have fun. And there is nothing wrong, for me chance buying an appartment or any housing is long gone, so I may spend more on cars, but then again I do not spend much on other things (like I do not travel).
Those warm yellow headlights are so beautiful
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Man beautiful car. Love the look of these old audis we had an audi 100 and it was super reliable, never broke down. Only reason we sold it is that we couldn't afford to fix it up for inspection.
Thank you, mate! Those old Audis (and other German cars from the 90s) really looked very authentic and are still running after 30+ years. However, inspections really tend to be strict with this cars, especially in the Western countries, due to CO2 emissions etc.
@@ShubnikovTV you can get cheaper insurance for those Audi's if you have a clean history Im saying that because we had cheaper insurance for ours
UA-cam randomly suggested this one, good job youtube, i love it
Thank you, mate! Appreciate the kind words :)
i expected you to have atleast 100k subs so underrated.
I hope that at some point I will reach these numbers too! Thank you for a kind comment:)
@@critixfn7434 I thought that too
Excellent Video !
Thank you :) Glad you liked it!
Smart man. Cars are a tool. Car culture will make you poor. I have driven beaters for 39 years. I have big bucks in investments and my home is about $900k. I drive a 2016 spark ev. I put a tow hitch on it for my trailer and I use it like a truck. I have never had a car loan my entire life.
Thank you for kind words and sharing the story! Really appreciate it :)
"car culture" unless you're rich to afford a sports car and its maintenance, taxes and the rest of expenses, it really isn't worth it to be a "car guy". Oh and if you live outside the UK or US. There's no place to let loose on a race track and street "racing" I don't even want to start what's wrong with that, from public safety to potholes. Just buy an used old car, doesn't even have to be the mythical toyota tier reliable, just maintain it properly and it will serve you right.
Very smart, although in Australia, those German cars are incredibly expensive to maintain, over here Japanese and Australian cars are the smartest cars to buy due to reliability, cost of parts, and are affordable. Sacrifice now while you are young and set up your future.
Interesting insight! In Easter Europe the old German cars are pretty cheap, you can buy one for 1.5k - 2k EUR (= 2.4k AUD) and the maintenance cost is also pretty low. I suppose that it is just due to Germany being pretty close to my part of the world, due to which we had a huge influx of old German cars in 2000s.
And what are some examples of good Australian cars/beaters? :) Genuinely interested to know.
@ yes the German cars here arnt as common, so parts are less common, also being on the other side of the world, getting parts here is more difficult, they really are a money pit. For Australian cars, you are looking at Holden Commodores and Ford Falcons, in the 10-25 year old range in the 6 cylinder instead of 8 cylinder. My first car was a commodore, I sold at 550,000kms. But these cars can get very expensive for their performance car versions, like a Holden HSV GTSR or a classic Ford Falcon GTHO where they can cost more than houses. They are similar to American muscle cars.
Underrated guy
Glad you found my video! Thank you for kind words!
We should be grateful to all the suckers buying new cars so we can buy them when the bulk of the depreciation has already happened.
I used to drive a 1998 Mazda 323 1.8. Other than the rust that car was pretty good. The engines were bullet proof and smooth, though a bit noisy on the motorway.
One drawback of 1990s cars is that a lot of safety features were introduced in the decade following.
2010-2015 Japanese cars are a good balance, so long as you don't have rust. Fortunately, rust is less of a problem in this era compared to the decade previous, with Mazda at least.
I drive a Volkswagen ID.3 now, and though I like it, it's a lease that is more expensive than it needs to be. Even after tax exemptions. I'll be going back to a used sub-€10k car after this. Our other car is a 2009 Mazda 2 1.5 GT-M without the heated seats (do get the heated seats, that's the only option we don't have) and that's such an underrated car. It's peppy, comfortable, and drives like a semi-confortable go-kart. Great first car.
I heard that Japanese cars have big problems with rust, especially in the Northern parts of the world, where the weather is not as good.
Btw, how do you find driving an electric vehicle after driving a petrol?
A man wise beyond his years. Drive the car you can afford, via cash or a SMALL loan.
Thank you for the kind words!
I daily drive my W124 in Australia. Absolutely love it. 80s/90s German cars are awesome, although i did have a terrible experience with an Audi 80.
Cool! Could you share your terrible experience with Audi 80?
@@ShubnikovTV Mostly it was how Audi chose to wire certain electrical systems. After refreshing the engine and manual gearbox car was pretty good then out of nowhere decided to not start and no matter what we tested and replaced it wouldn't start. somehow in the end the issue was an AC relay haha. Aside from that comparing to the Benz of the generation the Audi was always a bit more demanding and the interior seemed to decay faster.
Fast forward 3 years after this, we wanted to give it another try and found a nice optioned Audi 90 with the V6. That one needed way more work. I don't think they lasted as long and it's a bit telling with how many you see left on the road today. You'll see way more W124 in Australia kicking around with no rust and decent paint as opposed to the Audi's. Same story goes with the newer stuff 90s 00s.
As far as W124 reliability goes my 230e i drove for 1 year 12000kms with no functioning coolant fan. One i was lazy to fix it and two i was curious to see how long it would last and yes with only a new thermostat and water pump it never overheated on me. I bought the car for an engine swap and did minimal to get it going. and somehow ended up dailying it instead. (coolant fan now fixed by the way haha)
Overall I'd say 80s and 90s cars are way more reliable than new stuff. But even if you have to invest some money into them, your dollar generally goes further and more value for your money.
UA-cam algorithm sent me here. Saw an Audi 80, I clicked.
Mostly agree with your take, except the TOYOTA part. A 15 year old Toyota holds great resale value even as a second or third owner. They are really economical, cheap to run and most importantly don't break down even after hundreds of thousands of kilometers. So if you are willing to spend a bit more to drive a nicer and safer vehicle, it still isn't a bad financial decision. Same goes for Honda too.
Great choice on the Audi 80, since they simply don't rust, unlike my beloved BMW e36 😂. Don't get me wrong, I love me a beater, but technically they should be more expensive to run than an 15 year old Japanese vehicle (except Nissan, which is a Reno underneath).
If you are like me and still want your 30 year old car to be in tip top shape regarding engine performance, suspension, rust free body panels and so on... that parts bill can get out of hand pretty quickly. 😂 If you don't mind your car having rattles, some weird sounds, not so regular engine maintenances, somewhat of an okay suspension, breaks, tires and so on, than yes, you are spot on with the cost of running an old car.
Yes, I know that the point of a BEATER is not to give a crap, but still, IMO, some things can't be ignored. We only have Eastern Europe's mentality to blame for that, since we all know that almost anything can pass a pre registration inspection over here. 🤣
And yes, your car does not have airbags, but it has a rather smart mechanical system that pulls your steering wheel away from you in a crash. It's quite impressive, you should look it up. Good luck in the future and all the best, I hope you get to have a nice vehicle one day. 😊
Thank you for taking time to write such a detailed comment! Really appreciate it.
Regarding Totota, I will take a look, since that sounds pretty awsome.
Yes, Audi 80s somehow really do not rust, even in pretty harsh weather conditions, which is pretty awsome!
Regardiung the ideal car shape, I would not say that I am actually a petrol-head and that is why it is most important for me that the car looks good and drives without some crazy noises :)
Thank you for the info about the steering wheel! I tried to google it, but did find anything yet. Do you know a more precise name of the system?
@@ShubnikovTV My pleasure mate.
My old man had a brand spanking new Audi 80 and drove it for more than 10 years. I basically grew up in the thing, so it is my Achilles heel. 😊
They have a zinc-coated galvanized bodyshell. That's why they are rust free.
The system I was talking about is called Procon Ten. If I'm not mistaken, Audi implemented it first but airbags became a thing shorty after so a lot of people don't really know about it.
Link: ua-cam.com/video/6JX_CFlFZ0w/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ROVR
Thank you! Appreciate your once-again detailed answer :)
I think your old Audi is probably more comfortable than a Corolla that is 10 - 15 years old. Cars from the 70's and older generally appreciate in value.
interesting take..I suppose that Corolla is more comfortable just bcs it has air conditioning :) and yes, old cars after some point definetely increase in value!
@@ShubnikovTV You're a very clever bloke for someone so young. The only caveat with an old car is you can buy a complete pile of rubbish that costs a fortune to keep on the road. The best old cars to buy are Japanese; Mazda and Toyota particularly...
@@club1fan552 thank you for the kind words, really apprecite it :)
I laughed when i heard 180000km on it. Dunno where you live, but used cars in Poland never have more than 200k. You know why? Guess xD
I guess I know the answer!
True, especially as old car as this one. Hell, my is from 2010 and I bought it with 220000 km and those km were at lower side of the spectrum for that model.
I recently sold my newer car to buy a 2014 Kia Cee'd with over 250,000 km on the clock. It's already depreciated enough, but also is quite modern with cruise control and Bluetooth
I'm literally saving up to get a decent used EV, but in the meantime it is enjoyable to drive a car without worrying too much about 'protecting' its value
Interesting choice! And what used EV are u planning to buy?
@ShubnikovTV Hyundai Ioniq or Kia Soul - whichever one drops in price first lol
Sounds interesting :)
One reason driving older cars is their time is running out and good examples becoming more scarce so in future I may have no more chance driving them in the future. For example I wanted 1 series and was deciding between e87 or f20 (we don't talk about f40). In the end I went with older e87, since I will have chance to get a f20 in next 5-10 years, while number of e87s shrink. Of course I could go for even older compact, but that was too old for me, as is harder to get a good example, many features may be outdated, parts harder to find and worse fuel consumption since I still do 20k km a year.
Yep, if u want to feel the “real” cars before the world switches to the e-cars, it is also a good idea to buy a beater :)
I drive a Volvo V50 from 2004 in Germany and totally share the same views as yours. Knowing the car is not expensive is a kind of freedom. I can park it wherever I want for free and can avoid expensive paid parking. Compared to the 90s Audi 80, the Volvo is very comfortable and has better safety features. When things break and they do, I only repair what I think is worth repairing. For example, the AC broke, (repair cost is estimated at 1000€) I decided to leave it broken, as the really hot summer days are not so many. One more thing I like about it is that I can do some repairs myself and see how the car is constructed. On a new car I would be more afraid of doing repairs myself as I would be afraid of breaking something expensive.
I think that Volvo’s are just great cars! There is a chance that I will take a look at those in the future :)
How was the Volkswagen Vento overall? I'm looking forward to buying my first car and I'm interested in these beaters
Volkswagen Vento is a great car, especially if you can find one from Germany. Very reliable and cheap in maintenence. If I am not mistaken the details from golfs also suit Vento and therefore are pretty cheap in Europe.
@ShubnikovTV Yeah most of these Ventos go for around 1000-1500€ in Finland, hard to find any car cheaper than that to be honest, except for maybe golfs
@@vapattaaks514 yep, so, could be a great option for the first car :)
Mature take, I have the same way of thinking about money, but a different approach. its riskier however by buying a JDM legend and doing the legwork of facilitating and importing it, its an instant $10k added value where i live + whatever appreciation its likely to add. it allows me to own a dream car and justify the cost somewhat. ALSO, remember we are all finite beings, on a rock with 0 guarantee of living till tomorrow, focusing too much on the future can be just as misguided as ignoring it entirely.. anyway great video and good luck achieving your goals :)
Totally agree with your take! As someone said “there are no rich people at the cemetery”. So, I also think that it is also important to enjoy the life (including cool material stuff).
However, I think that we all should try our best to enjoy our lifestyle not because of what we have/don’t have, but just because we are alive. Yet, it is not an easy task :)
But if you include the cost of manteinance, you hardly get big profit of JDM "investing", but at least you have fun. And there is nothing wrong, for me chance buying an appartment or any housing is long gone, so I may spend more on cars, but then again I do not spend much on other things (like I do not travel).