The amount of spin is just amazing, the only thing it's missing is changing its position thus shooting from different angles and distances, maybe heights also. But overall, great machine.
Hi~! I have AMICUS Butterfly Amicus Advance Robot 2016. BUT, my robot's an angle adjuster is not moving. How can I move the robot. Please tell me how!!
Are you talking about the deflector plate that moves the balls right to left and up and down? If yes, you might have a cable problem or a broken gear. The fix is relatively easy, so please contact your Butterfly dealer.
Personally, a trainer or partner would be the best, but thats just my opinion as Im not a certified anything, just a not-too-bad district player with several winnings only. This is because I think that robots just arent that up to par with a human. With a partner or trainer, you are required to read their hand movements and overtime, you develop a sensory image I guess even before an opponent hits the ball and you already know where it should go and the amount of spin. The robot doesnt help with this. Also, the trainers or partners might realise any mistakes while you are doing the stroke and correct you there and then. I went to clubs where they just set up these machines and the coaches come to look once in a while. They certainly are not helping the players who want to train.
It safe money in long term to help with basic movement or fixing mistakes. Like if you spot mistakes in your footwork over some combination. Won’t ever come close to human, it’s not in anyway best tools to help you grow. There’s some scenario especially for amateurs where you need to improve mechanics, for example new ball does not require you to hit backspin ball high or drop your swing low like in the past so you can put more horizontal movement (Yan An talks about this, you know the professional Chinese 1st team, while amateurs kept talking you need to lift the ball etc as if they know better)
@@NoTengoIlusiones Butterfly is a well known brand and they're spending a lot more on advertising than we do, so naturally they have more downloads. You might also want to compare the features and benefits of both brand. It's an eyeopening experience.
@@attilamalek6763 Thank you for your kind reply .I really do ! But where ? I'm in the process of buying for my club brand new tables and robot ! The short list it's your brand and Butterfly . Requisites: robust hw and versatile = sw controlled [in 10 years all robots will be sw controlled I believe] . And it's very hard to find the differences between the two. If the same company makes them, I assume Hardware it's the same ? What about firmware versions? it's LCS.kft ? The only difference it's the controlling software developed differently by each one? Thank you again for kind reply.
It depends on where you live. We have distributors in the US, UK and Australia and I do not ship to areas where we can't provide local support. We do have opportunities for distributors in countries where we don't have one. By the way our models have major advantages over the Amicus models at a lower price. If you want comparison email me at: attila@powerpong.org
Never say never, and why do they have to beat China? Ball machines are not designed for the single purpose of beating China. They're simply one of the many tools players can use to get better.
We do have many good Chinese and European coaches in the U.S. and the number of full time training centers increased tremendously in the last 20 years and our Men's National Team is not even close to the performance of the U.S. National Team of the 80's with the Bogans and Seemillers. They were in the first division and they did not have Chinese coaches, yet they beat the best Chinese in the world. Now, I do agree that we need good coaches, but we need a lot more than that and I already listed what we need in my previous responses.
Let me think. So, it's the same machine, same manufacturer, but we offer a much better warranty, better and immediate customer service, and we have 100% customer satisfaction and the Amicus is better. How do you figure?
The shipping is about $150. I would need the address in order to give you the exact amount. By the way this is the same machine as the Amicus Professional and even thought we offer a much better warranty that includes a 24 hours fix or replace service you might be better off purchasing it from Butterfly Europe. They're much closer to you and that's important in the rare case when something would go wrong.
I don't like to repeat myself, but here it is again; I love expert opinions, but would you please list your credential so people may know that you're an expert on the subject.
Google me, but before you do I could tell that I not expert in table tennis still I expert in other sport fields. And nothing would beat good old partner no matter what sport we talking about. If you say no :) I might know why. Same I say Nike instead of other brands. Promotion is great.
My credentials are: USATT Certified National coach. USATT Hall of Fame Inductee, Former U.S. National Men's Singles Champion, winner of hundreds of tournaments and you may also Google me. Yes, these are promotional videos, but as I pointed out in my previous responses high level table tennis has many components and ball machine training is only one of the many. Can you become a high level player without a ball machine? In certain countries and in few places in the U.S. it's possible assuming you're in a training program 4-6 hours/day. The majority of U.S. players don't have that opportunity, and don't have a dedicated training partner either for that many hours, so again ball machine training is an excellent option. By the way my daughter who is a high level player has me as a training partner, she also plays at the local club and use her ball machine daily.
Honestly I think that you overthinking my above 2 cents. I never stated that machine your promoting bad in any settings. I simply stated that I consider and not just me that human partner would be best option regardless how good this machine are. (I would make a simple example in your field. Say 2 6 years old have an idea to play table tennis and both starting at the same time. One getting coach and partner who knows techniques know how to play know fundamentals and always positive encouraging, still never giving up if certain elements not been polished. Second asking parents to buy him that very nice machine to practice home having. Both of them spent same amount of time over 1 year one with machine one only with coach/partner). would you like to make a bet ? Which one going to be better ? You asking question about could you become any good without machines ? Yes and yes again and again - that horrible question your asking and you surely know it all along many worlds champions and variety of sports got there without any advance machines help. 20 years ago no one even know that machines exists. Again please do not take it wrong way, I all in for new more advance practice, with use of quite complicated machines. In my field we use one technology every practice individual it become even more important ( video ) , second there is new tracking software developed all the time that giving wide range of details about team and individuals, we have basketball shooting machines and I could say for shooting along they might be better then normal partner. Measuring arc, speed, passing and counting preserving pace. Normal partner could not do that. Even not every coach could be aware of all that metrics. So yes we should use new technology as much as it possible, but to say there is no other way ....... there is always other way. Partner always have something that machines would never give, you know what I mean...
In your example you're 100% correct, but that's not the argument. You said " How about get a partner way better option" Now, we might be talking about two different things. I'm saying that high level table tennis requires a lot more than a coach, a training partner, and a ball machine. It's not one or the other, it's multiple components. So, your statement that a partner is a way better option it's simply wrong, because without the other necessary components neither the partner nor the ball machine can get you to high level.
There are many inexpensive robots on the market. They have a simple operating system that can perform one type of a spin at a time, and the amount of spin they generate is very small. Of course not everyone needs nor can afford a complex machine that can produce many different combinations that includes no spin, under spin, side spin and topspin combinations with different amount of spin. And naturally this type of machines cost more than the simple ones.
Wow, I could watch that girl dance around the table all day long! It is mesmerizing, beautiful, inspiring. I am inspired to emulate her! She is great! Now I want to buy that machine, lol.... how much does it cost?
Using machines in training is debatable. On the one hand it allows the athlete to respond as they would during a match scenario (Action fidelity). However, there is low functionality; this relates to the information constraints. For example, you are responding to a machine/stimuli and not an actual athlete, therefore there is no opportunity to read bodily cues for instance.
You're 100% correct, it's debatable. The machine has many useful purpose and it's only one of the many tools needed to develop high level athletes. We definitely have great success in teaching the professional techniques with the use of the ball machine.
Attila Malek the machines are highly sophisticated and allow the athletes to practice an array of skills in relation with others (Random Practice) and also allow athletes to have multiple repetitions of the same skill (Blocked Practice). “Random Practice” has been shown to improve retention but is detrimental for acquisition. However, the athletes in these videos are that of expert so this training mode is appropriate. However, “Blocked Practice” (practicing/repeating the same skill) enhances acquisition but is detrimental for an athlete’s retention. Blocked practice would greatly benefit a novice, it links into the elaboration hypothesis, allows athletes to refine movements and self-correct (schema). However, in the real world, these machines are expensive. I personally am more inclined to use athletes and not machines, I feel that enhances the ecological design of the training. I also like to instal flair into my athletes, I do this by encouraging “deliberate play” and encouraging the practice of “transferable skills”. for example my sport is volleyball but as a warm up I might get my athletes to play a quick game of basketball, or badminton over the volleyball net. The striking motion is the same in volleyball and badminton, and volleyball and basketball trains vertical jump and makes players less static. Of course if the machines work for you, sure they are, then keep going and good luck!
Players use opponent's movement to determine the ball spin directions which the machine does not provide. You probably won't go very far using this machine.
The amount of spin is just amazing, the only thing it's missing is changing its position thus shooting from different angles and distances, maybe heights also.
But overall, great machine.
Great point. Maybe set up 3 machine 2 corners and middle
@@nikitaw1982 That would be a $6,000 setup with the latest version - Power Pong Omega 😅
finally i can play table tennis all by myself
well done and well said, bravo.
Hi~! I have AMICUS Butterfly Amicus Advance Robot 2016.
BUT, my robot's an angle adjuster is not moving.
How can I move the robot. Please tell me how!!
Are you talking about the deflector plate that moves the balls right to left and up and down?
If yes, you might have a cable problem or a broken gear. The fix is relatively easy, so please contact your Butterfly dealer.
Personally, a trainer or partner would be the best, but thats just my opinion as Im not a certified anything, just a not-too-bad district player with several winnings only. This is because I think that robots just arent that up to par with a human. With a partner or trainer, you are required to read their hand movements and overtime, you develop a sensory image I guess even before an opponent hits the ball and you already know where it should go and the amount of spin. The robot doesnt help with this. Also, the trainers or partners might realise any mistakes while you are doing the stroke and correct you there and then. I went to clubs where they just set up these machines and the coaches come to look once in a while. They certainly are not helping the players who want to train.
It safe money in long term to help with basic movement or fixing mistakes. Like if you spot mistakes in your footwork over some combination. Won’t ever come close to human, it’s not in anyway best tools to help you grow. There’s some scenario especially for amateurs where you need to improve mechanics, for example new ball does not require you to hit backspin ball high or drop your swing low like in the past so you can put more horizontal movement (Yan An talks about this, you know the professional Chinese 1st team, while amateurs kept talking you need to lift the ball etc as if they know better)
what is the name thıs machine??
name?
Why do people keep asking the name of the product? It's right there in the first 5 seconds jeez
Is it for upper spin lower spin and can mix with speed
Yes, it can,
Great
How much cost sir
I thought Different people have different degree of spins and speed on their returns and serves?
Cool.!
Oops! Meant to search Power BONG not Power Pong 😂🤣
lol
What's the name of robot
OCTTA!! represent!
👍👍
The little kid is better than me
The near dime basally disarm because front cellularly paint anenst a knotty home. painstaking, tense hippopotamus
ua-cam.com/video/IZKoIU91dBM/v-deo.html
$1499
OR u could just use wall like what mr.forrest gump did..
What wall does Top spin, Back spin, side spin?
Mitchell Lewis you would be surprised what a wall could do for you
How the hell are you supposed to to hard shots. 😂
"Good, Very Good, Excellent" 😂
After I saw those "easy settings" I started consider myself even worse than before.
Yes, you can set it for novice or highly advanced players. We have 3 models: PP1000, PP2000 and PP3000. Information available at www.powerpong.org
Right? even the 6yr old kid was a guru
:))))))
Please, simple low speed contra balls alternating fore- and backhand, deep on the table on the same place. Easy peasy.
ben ho true...but it depends what level you are tbh some people want to learn and train so there’s no need to boast
Can I have the name and the brand of this please?
price?
What i see is 995 subs so if he has 1000 he can make money 1$ every 1000 views so with 1100000 views he could get 1100$ 😌
That kid didn't look novice to me...
yeah novice would hit the top floor of the building in his first try like me
@@i_deepeshmeena whereas I hit the ball in my coach's face 😂🤣
Beli dimana berapa harganya;.
I'm already learnt chop and counter
Are you able to send them to New Zealand for a good reasonable price?
We would need an address to check on shipping prices.
Shut Up not everyone can afford everything spoild brat im not like you :p who can get a $1000 product ljust ike that.
Di mana ya bisa beli robot yg seperti ini. Dan harganya brp ya..
Mantap
How much is this sht ,im buyin
I want to buy this but I am in Philippines, do you ship overseas ?
Where is this academy located??? I am from India... Can I join??? What will be the fees?
how much does it cost?
Instead of it being stationary cant they make it move?
amazon reports them out of stock - no know resupply date.
the girl is cute gotta say though
How much?
Name of the brand please
Power Pong - www.powerpong.org
how do you compare Amicus app vs power pong app. What is does better than amicus app? Any thoughts?
Nossa cadê a movimentação das garotas só os homens usando as pernas mais soltas
How for the machine
Hello. I have a problem with my amicus expert: it will throw 2 balls at once every 5-6 throws. Can you give me a solution?
Thank you
Just hit both of them. Welcome for the advice.
For people with no friends ... like me
that kid plays better than me i m 20 and still struggles to serve
Why would you not have a link to sell ??
The advertisement is a bit faulty in that it does not provide a link to the purchase.
You can search it
Machine name please ?
where i can buy it?
How much for this
What is price
Chinese Copy of Butterfly Amicus Prime?
Both the Power Pong and Amicus robots are made by LCS.Kft in Hungary Europe.
@@attilamalek6763 but if you check the app ( different) the number of downloads, Butterflys is twice the numbers.
@@NoTengoIlusiones Butterfly is a well known brand and they're spending a lot more on advertising than we do, so naturally they have more downloads. You might also want to compare the features and benefits of both brand. It's an eyeopening experience.
@@attilamalek6763 Thank you for your kind reply .I really do ! But where ? I'm in the process of buying for my club brand new tables and robot ! The short list it's your brand and Butterfly . Requisites: robust hw and versatile = sw controlled [in 10 years all robots will be sw controlled I believe] . And it's very hard to find the differences between the two. If the same company makes them, I assume Hardware it's the same ? What about firmware versions? it's LCS.kft ? The only difference it's the controlling software developed differently by each one? Thank you again for kind reply.
It depends on where you live. We have distributors in the US, UK and Australia and I do not ship to areas where we can't provide local support. We do have opportunities for distributors in countries where we don't have one.
By the way our models have major advantages over the Amicus models at a lower price. If you want comparison email me at: attila@powerpong.org
Where can we buy this robot? What's the name of the robot?
The name is Power Pong 3000 and the website is: powerpong.org.
nice view
Name of the product
Power Pong 3000
Power Pong 3000
wow
yeh like forestgump
It’s dr Lee’s club
or you have some one to plat with
I know that place! I go to that tt place.
The best tool for traumatologic problems.
Xd they will never beat China
Never say never, and why do they have to beat China?
Ball machines are not designed for the single purpose of beating China.
They're simply one of the many tools players can use to get better.
We do have many good Chinese and European coaches in the U.S. and the number of full time training centers increased tremendously in the last 20 years and our Men's National Team is not even close to the performance of the U.S. National Team of the 80's with the Bogans and Seemillers. They were in the first division and they did not have Chinese coaches, yet they beat the best Chinese in the world.
Now, I do agree that we need good coaches, but we need a lot more than that and I already listed what we need in my previous responses.
伊藤美誠かと思った
Wow
i want to have this..... how can i buy this ?
You may purchase it at: www.powerpongstore.com
You may purchase it at: www.powerpongstore.com
Great. I wish had this 30 years ago
never too late, just keep on practicing and be positive.
I dont even play ping pong....
amicus is better
Let me think. So, it's the same machine, same manufacturer, but we offer a much better warranty, better and immediate customer service, and we have 100% customer satisfaction and the Amicus is better. How do you figure?
@@attilamalek6763 price?
@@poweredbyplants82 Use coupon code pp5000 at checkout to get the price of $1699. Coupon expires 7/30/2019
Where to buy that?
www.powerpong.org
U sound like ur advertising -_-
Is anything wrong with that?
That means: obviously yes
What a music so relaxing ...
How much cost
$1849.
Link to buy
www.powerpong.org
Is this item on Amazon?
Yes, it's available on Amazon, but you pay more. Contact powerpong123@gmail.com and we'll send you a coupon code to save $100 at checkout.
Price?
$1799
nice machine how much is it and shipping to the uk
The shipping is about $150. I would need the address in order to give you the exact amount. By the way this is the same machine as the Amicus Professional and even thought we offer a much better warranty that includes a 24 hours fix or replace service you might be better off purchasing it from Butterfly Europe. They're much closer to you and that's important in the rare case when something would go wrong.
Power Pong 3000
That reflex tho😀
How about get a partner way better option.
I don't like to repeat myself, but here it is again; I love expert opinions, but would you please list your credential so people may know that you're an expert on the subject.
Google me, but before you do I could tell that I not expert in table tennis still I expert in other sport fields. And nothing would beat good old partner no matter what sport we talking about. If you say no :) I might know why. Same I say Nike instead of other brands. Promotion is great.
My credentials are: USATT Certified National coach. USATT Hall of Fame Inductee, Former U.S. National Men's Singles Champion, winner of hundreds of tournaments and you may also Google me. Yes, these are promotional videos, but as I pointed out in my previous responses high level table tennis has many components and ball machine training is only one of the many. Can you become a high level player without a ball machine? In certain countries and in few places in the U.S. it's possible assuming you're in a training program 4-6 hours/day. The majority of U.S. players don't have that opportunity, and don't have a dedicated training partner either for that many hours, so again ball machine training is an excellent option. By the way my daughter who is a high level player has me as a training partner, she also plays at the local club and use her ball machine daily.
Honestly I think that you overthinking my above 2 cents. I never stated that machine your promoting bad in any settings. I simply stated that I consider and not just me that human partner would be best option regardless how good this machine are. (I would make a simple example in your field. Say 2 6 years old have an idea to play table tennis and both starting at the same time. One getting coach and partner who knows techniques know how to play know fundamentals and always positive encouraging, still never giving up if certain elements not been polished. Second asking parents to buy him that very nice machine to practice home having. Both of them spent same amount of time over 1 year one with machine one only with coach/partner). would you like to make a bet ? Which one going to be better ?
You asking question about could you become any good without machines ? Yes and yes again and again - that horrible question your asking and you surely know it all along many worlds champions and variety of sports got there without any advance machines help. 20 years ago no one even know that machines exists.
Again please do not take it wrong way, I all in for new more advance practice, with use of quite complicated machines. In my field we use one technology every practice individual it become even more important ( video ) , second there is new tracking software developed all the time that giving wide range of details about team and individuals, we have basketball shooting machines and I could say for shooting along they might be better then normal partner. Measuring arc, speed, passing and counting preserving pace. Normal partner could not do that. Even not every coach could be aware of all that metrics. So yes we should use new technology as much as it possible, but to say there is no other way ....... there is always other way. Partner always have something that machines would never give, you know what I mean...
In your example you're 100% correct, but that's not the argument. You said " How about get a partner way better option" Now, we might be talking about two different things. I'm saying that high level table tennis requires a lot more than a coach, a training partner, and a ball machine. It's not one or the other, it's multiple components. So, your statement that a partner is a way better option it's simply wrong, because without the other necessary components neither the partner nor the ball machine can get you to high level.
How much is it?
Information available at: www.powerpong.org
Attila Malek it's so expensive
There are many inexpensive robots on the market. They have a simple operating system that can perform one type of a spin at a time, and the amount of spin they generate is very small. Of course not everyone needs nor can afford a complex machine that can produce many different combinations that includes no spin, under spin, side spin and topspin combinations with different amount of spin. And naturally this type of machines cost more than the simple ones.
We have 3 models. The top model is $1799
For more information please visit www.powerpong.org
about tree fiddy
Wow, I could watch that girl dance around the table all day long! It is mesmerizing, beautiful, inspiring. I am inspired to emulate her! She is great! Now I want to buy that machine, lol.... how much does it cost?
You may check prices at www.powerpong.org
whats the name of the machine. o Live in Brazil i van Bush???
buy*
It literally says it in the first 10 seconds of the video, Power Pong 3000 Ball Machine
Essa é a Amicus Prime da Butterfly.
Power Pong é o nome antigo que já saiu de série.
Custa 2.2k Dolares na Amazon
GOOD VIDEO
I train with the robo-pong 2000
I uploaded a video of it on my channel
Using machines in training is debatable. On the one hand it allows the athlete to respond as they would during a match scenario (Action fidelity). However, there is low functionality; this relates to the information constraints. For example, you are responding to a machine/stimuli and not an actual athlete, therefore there is no opportunity to read bodily cues for instance.
You're 100% correct, it's debatable. The machine has many useful purpose and it's only one of the many tools needed to develop high level athletes. We definitely have great success in teaching the professional techniques with the use of the ball machine.
Attila Malek the machines are highly sophisticated and allow the athletes to practice an array of skills in relation with others (Random Practice) and also allow athletes to have multiple repetitions of the same skill (Blocked Practice). “Random Practice” has been shown to improve retention but is detrimental for acquisition. However, the athletes in these videos are that of expert so this training mode is appropriate. However, “Blocked Practice” (practicing/repeating the same skill) enhances acquisition but is detrimental for an athlete’s retention. Blocked practice would greatly benefit a novice, it links into the elaboration hypothesis, allows athletes to refine movements and self-correct (schema). However, in the real world, these machines are expensive. I personally am more inclined to use athletes and not machines, I feel that enhances the ecological design of the training. I also like to instal flair into my athletes, I do this by encouraging “deliberate play” and encouraging the practice of “transferable skills”. for example my sport is volleyball but as a warm up I might get my athletes to play a quick game of basketball, or badminton over the volleyball net. The striking motion is the same in volleyball and badminton, and volleyball and basketball trains vertical jump and makes players less static. Of course if the machines work for you, sure they are, then keep going and good luck!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Is it available in INDIA?? what is the price ??
We can ship to India, but I would need an address to check on the shipping charges.
can you first tell the price range...P.S. i m also from india
Alpesh Patel i think no
Price on all of the models available at: www.powerpong.org
$1049
Is it available in Hong Kong?
And How much in Hk dollars?
No, it's only available in North America at this time.
Players use opponent's movement to determine the ball spin directions which the machine does not provide. You probably won't go very far using this machine.
I love expert opinions. Would you please share with us your credentials.
you do not even understand the purpose of this machine.
@@chewepooz you don't even understand ping pong.
@@hardlyconfused3541 I’m playing pretty good, but nice try.
@@chewepooz very amusing! good? which country? US?
1:25 HOW IS THAT EXECELENT?
... I can just get a bunch of Chinese guys that are better and cost a fraction of that machine.
Funny. You clearly have not paid for lessons.