This Is Killing Rocket League...

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024

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  • @ApparentlyJackRL
    @ApparentlyJackRL  5 місяців тому +695

    Trying so hard to get you guys' 1v1 videos, but this is what happens right now when I queue that gamemode lol...

    • @devon0910
      @devon0910 5 місяців тому +5

      i dropped so hard because of the same issue its so annoying

    • @magirehedge7585
      @magirehedge7585 5 місяців тому +4

      If you block them can you still get them? Cause I thought if you blocked them you wouldn’t

    • @shadow6259
      @shadow6259 5 місяців тому +14

      Ocf you can get them lmao, would be dumb af, you could block every high player and just play against diamonds or sum shit

    • @Azronskii
      @Azronskii 5 місяців тому +2

      I'm new to rocket leauge and loving it and I'm really trying to grind but I really hope this goes away because I feel all the hard work will be for nothing abut like cod with cheaters I just give up with the game

    • @andyjcraft7628
      @andyjcraft7628 5 місяців тому +2

      i played this guy earlier today and he did the same thing but it gave me the win and said he ff'd

  • @BenjoRL
    @BenjoRL 5 місяців тому +1641

    Unfortunately epicgames is only interested in fortnite..

    • @anony0010
      @anony0010 5 місяців тому +132

      Not even fortnite bro, I'm beginning to believe that only boomers work for epic. They're so slow and do so many bad decisions for the games their company owns. It reached a point where i started to question if even humans run the company.

    • @Danstry
      @Danstry 5 місяців тому +21

      No, they’re only interested in this whole metaverse thing they care too much about

    •  5 місяців тому +19

      in money..

    • @5.9k.
      @5.9k. 5 місяців тому +8

      And fortnite is dying

    • @Deepslatediamond
      @Deepslatediamond 5 місяців тому

      True

  • @Dragon_MC13
    @Dragon_MC13 5 місяців тому +361

    When ApparentlyJack says "oioioi man" you know it's bad.

  • @Dark.Syndicate
    @Dark.Syndicate 5 місяців тому +276

    u said u r not in a mood to play more games. this is exactly what happens when u see brands not caring about a product u use. even pros get uninterested.

    • @eastbayrider9511
      @eastbayrider9511 5 місяців тому +20

      The worst thing for a product is not bad reviews, it's apathy. That can be much harder to recover from. Disney's Star Wars is a great example. After putting up with so much garbage for so long, the fan base just clocks out and moves on.

    • @youngc570
      @youngc570 5 місяців тому +2

      @@eastbayrider9511 God, how much money did they lose with that franchise.

    • @hustler666100
      @hustler666100 5 місяців тому

      @@youngc570 45 - 48 billion

  • @tylerheenan9393
    @tylerheenan9393 5 місяців тому +623

    What he's saying : Asking you for a free win and trying to get you to answer. It's a "power play". He's some cringey kid enjoying the "power" trip of ruining a car soccer game. I'm guessing a basement dweller with no control over their actual life and nothing going on for them. Most cheaters fall into that category. For them it's the only part of their life that they can feel rewarded from. Very sad in multiple ways.

    • @theone3337
      @theone3337 5 місяців тому +21

      💯

    • @jakewantstoplay1897
      @jakewantstoplay1897 5 місяців тому +63

      I think a lot of cheaters are often people who didn't quite make it to the level they wanted to. A lot of faked speedruns for example are often done by people who are genuinely very good at the games they fake.
      Lance Armstrong famously cheated to win the tour de France but he was still a phenomenal cyclist but needed to cheat to elevate himself to the next level.
      I think in RL they cheat to get that sweet dopamine that they probably no longer get from just playing the game as they've done it for so long.
      I'm guessing a lot of these hackers, ddosers and cheaters are probably fairly highly ranked, just nowhere near the level of Jack.

    • @anassright5342
      @anassright5342 5 місяців тому +1

      At least they dont talk to them at all

    • @GenuinePureSetae
      @GenuinePureSetae 5 місяців тому +1

      Like an extreme version of smurfing..

    • @tonyzweedyk478
      @tonyzweedyk478 5 місяців тому +9

      @@GenuinePureSetaethe thing is with smurfing you have to actually be better than the other player and most people (me included) liked getting smurfed on to some extent, it was kinda like a big brother stomping you in the ground but you get stronger for it.

  • @brando8314
    @brando8314 5 місяців тому +579

    Dev here, not RL, but a web dev by trade, who loves the game and been noticing this stuff a lot (so it's funny you're pointing this out). Sometimes, you have to let the "hackers" cook so you can set up detection and patch vulnerabilities. But, this can mean that solutions are not instantaneous (hard to be patient in our current day and age) so hang in there. If you ban "hackers" immediately, you make it hard to track them. If you let them continuously reconnect with the same credentials and track them you have a better chance at stopping this type of hack for good.

    • @Arunnn241
      @Arunnn241 5 місяців тому +75

      That's a fair point. Web dev here, not RL. One key requirement to get the maximal benefits of waiting is having AI fraud/hack/cheating detection to learn from their behavior. But somehow, I seriously doubt Psyonix has implemented any such fraud detection AIs...

    • @wkr420
      @wkr420 5 місяців тому +67

      @@Arunnn241 Psyonix isnt the problem. Its epic that laid off everyone from psyonix if im not mistaken. All epic cares about is microtransactions. They saw an opportunity to buy out rocket league and make it F2P so they could fk the game and people with microtransactions. They dont give a flying fk about the playerbase or the games trajectory and they wont ever.

    • @boots3372
      @boots3372 5 місяців тому +5

      That doesn't take this long. They aren't doing anything.

    • @R4MMU5
      @R4MMU5 5 місяців тому +1

      That's true. But banning someone who was called out by a player (rather than the system detecting them) would not interfere with that process, since they were obviously banned because someone had evidence of them cheating
      But then again, proving that this player in particular caused the server to crash would be pretty hard to do with video evidence alone...

    • @Mroskas
      @Mroskas 5 місяців тому

      ​​​​@@R4MMU5 It's not that simple. Banning them would cause you to miss the opportunity to track them down and understand all fundamentals of what they are actually doing. Them being banned will put them on other account at the bottom of the bracket, which just means that they won't be called out so quickly.
      I tend to think it's lack of personel. There are maybe only few dedicated people to track down vulnerabilities. Not to mention long release times in bigger corps. IMHO, just wait. You did your duty.
      Also, inhereting codebase is as complex as it can get, so devs might not even know how rocket league works in general. Just defending devs, but they might actually care. You never know. 😅

  • @eisen161
    @eisen161 5 місяців тому +117

    You're not complaining too much at all. I can't imagine having a professional career in a game where the company feels so distant and unresponsive.

    • @midwesternfarmer615
      @midwesternfarmer615 5 місяців тому +12

      Can't imagine having a career anywhere where the company is unresponsive and distant

  • @KevinHellfeier
    @KevinHellfeier 5 місяців тому +250

    just start blurring their names tbh, i think ending up on yt is a big motivation for these players, that dedicate their playtime to showing the world they dont have what it actually takes

    • @eisen161
      @eisen161 5 місяців тому +48

      Blurring a name that's constantly moving around the screen is incredibly time consuming. Basically moving the blur around frame by frame, unless there's some other method I'm unaware of. I think he'll stop showing these players, if not starting now, starting soon. I think he's just hoping that exposing them will get them banned, but since they're not, he probably won't much more if I had to guess. But, like he says, they're showing up in pro streams all the time anyway.

    • @KevinHellfeier
      @KevinHellfeier 5 місяців тому +3

      @@eisen161 yea i thought about that too just after i wrote that, probably impossible, unless you can get some automated mechanism to do that

    • @sangeetheman
      @sangeetheman 5 місяців тому +9

      ​@@eisen161its not that hard to do but it's not worth the bother

    • @Steamrawrler
      @Steamrawrler 5 місяців тому

      @@KevinHellfeier you can put his cam over a replay of the game and bakkesmod the name out.

    • @bani7438
      @bani7438 5 місяців тому +9

      ​@@eisen161 there are methods where you can put blur to their nickname and computer will do the job.

  • @dudemcdudeman5274
    @dudemcdudeman5274 5 місяців тому +79

    Epic acquired Psyonix May 2019. Think about it, they aren't going to do shit, they do not care, 5 years...its so sad that the community are so desperate for content that they get excited over a boost indicator. Psyonix sold out, its on them. RL was something different pre-Epic, it was special, the game was special, the content, the majors, the connection and absolute love people had for this game was special. And we have been left to rot.

    • @marcorc5167
      @marcorc5167 5 місяців тому +3

      Yeah and we warned them not to sell to Epic of all companies...
      Even EA would have been better, at least the servers would not lag as much.

    • @Crush3333
      @Crush3333 5 місяців тому +4

      @@marcorc5167 After so many years of Epic, I'm on the verge of feeling bad about what I've said about EA

    • @marcorc5167
      @marcorc5167 5 місяців тому +4

      @@Crush3333 we really are on the shittiest timeline.
      Imagine if they got acquired by Valve!

    • @Crush3333
      @Crush3333 4 місяці тому

      @marcorc5167 ...I've never imagined it could have...now I am sad

    • @henwy12d98
      @henwy12d98 4 місяці тому +2

      @@marcorc5167 fr whos god damn idea was it to remove trading, epic really does not care about the games community

  • @EuroHeavenOO7
    @EuroHeavenOO7 5 місяців тому +36

    The fact that they charge you 2000 credits for a crappy goal celebration that they just change the colour to every month and then charge 2000 credits again as if they did something new and exciting. 2000 credits equals to around $20, which can buy you a new game on steam, says it all. Servers are garbage, too many smurfs, in-game purchases are wayyyyyy overpriced, and now cheaters to top it off shows where this game is headed.

    • @JebemTiZivot
      @JebemTiZivot 4 місяці тому

      Not to nention they removed trading (and crates? Cant remember if that was epic) so they could have a monopoly on one of the biggest cosmetics markets in gaming

    • @ipwnreviewer
      @ipwnreviewer 4 місяці тому +2

      I always liked items in addition to ranked play, but getting rid of trading really made me not care anymore. I would very rarely pay 'full price' for a good item but even if I were to spend 2k credits on something, it didn't matter because those were just proceeds of unloading rocket pass items through trading. It was great, I'd play more to get further in rocket pass to sell items other people don't have yet and then use that toward items I'd always wanted. Trading ended and I had 9k credits after only ever buying rocket pass once, but now that is worth only a few goal explosions

  • @Bottlecap0
    @Bottlecap0 5 місяців тому +178

    Content creators and pros should strike. Even though this only affects 1% of players, it’s that 1% that is fueling the bottom 99% of players to keep playing. If there’s no RLCS and no content being uploaded, the game is finished. You guys literally have all the power in your hands.

    • @nashmono7086
      @nashmono7086 5 місяців тому +21

      That would be a good idea. But epic doesn’t care. If they went on strike, epic would just shut the game down.

    • @Diego_D7
      @Diego_D7 5 місяців тому +4

      as long as the pro's and content creators make enough money to live their life, they won't care enough to risk all that

    • @IshaqA11
      @IshaqA11 5 місяців тому +6

      Content creators and pros are 0.01% of the player base buddy.

    • @Bottlecap0
      @Bottlecap0 5 місяців тому

      @@IshaqA11 yeah that’s fair

    • @krusher181
      @krusher181 5 місяців тому +2

      That would just kill the comp scene

  • @Mondmann31
    @Mondmann31 5 місяців тому +52

    I love how he Talks and absolutly destroys the First Opponent, sadly they destroy the Game

  • @jeffmercury
    @jeffmercury 5 місяців тому +174

    i got "ddosed" in champ 2 like its ridiculous

    • @Nix_IoI
      @Nix_IoI 5 місяців тому +13

      Damn even the lower ranks

    • @thefinalboss.2436
      @thefinalboss.2436 5 місяців тому +6

      yeah I got it in c3 called them out and they stopped lagging the game after i said it -.-

    • @codder32
      @codder32 5 місяців тому +7

      @@Nix_IoI maybe the hacker starter "from there", his real rank, and slowly got up to pro lobby while disturbing a couple people along the way

    • @Nix_IoI
      @Nix_IoI 5 місяців тому +1

      @@codder32 true

    • @dannyway1111
      @dannyway1111 5 місяців тому

      That's been a thing in the game for the last couple of years. Where certain people will lag but not everyone. Nobody was ddossing you​@@thefinalboss.2436

  • @LizemPool
    @LizemPool 5 місяців тому +162

    Then we need to team up with these hackers and get the things in the store like decals, goals explosions, etc, for free, and spread the hack to everyone and to other games Epic owns as well, this way they will go bankrupt, another company can buy Rocket League and the world will be a better place.

    • @ryanwyatt6769
      @ryanwyatt6769 5 місяців тому +17

      Actually thats not a bad idea. But couldn’t they take you to court for that because not alot of us can afford to take a giant in legal matters as a scare tactic.

    • @Yoshi92
      @Yoshi92 5 місяців тому +20

      Thats the first time I'd actually cheat in an online game lol, just to hurt this fkin trash company. I kinda stopped playing since trading was removed (even tho I never traded in my 8k hours, but its such a low move by Epic, RL is less fun to play now cuz theres no possibility to draw a 100$ item and sell it). I wonder how fast Counter Strike wouldnt be the #1 FPS in the world when they remove fkin trading lol

    • @Bio333yt
      @Bio333yt 5 місяців тому +3

      Boycotting kinda

    • @Ssek16
      @Ssek16 5 місяців тому +6

      @@ryanwyatt6769 No? lol
      under what kind of rock do you live to think that we could get sued by using cheats 💀

    • @BushMC
      @BushMC 5 місяців тому +3

      epic games is so big they'd prob just shut down the game but it would be awesome if we get new devs

  • @xbudzix
    @xbudzix 5 місяців тому +83

    wow jack's actually saying soccer instead of football now

    • @balcoz2004
      @balcoz2004 5 місяців тому +1

      when?

    • @xbudzix
      @xbudzix 5 місяців тому

      16:16 ​@@balcoz2004

    • @brekkoh
      @brekkoh 5 місяців тому +10

      considering england invented the word, man is just returning to his roots

    • @I_am_nobody999
      @I_am_nobody999 5 місяців тому +21

      @@brekkoh Literally everybody in England calls it football. Nobody cares that we invented the word soccer. If you're English the word is football unless you are pretending to be a yank.

    • @DasIstGoose
      @DasIstGoose 5 місяців тому

      Hmm, yet, there are still people that aren't from the States that say Soccer. It's a word, an abbreviation of Association Football. So still football. Get over it, ​@@I_am_nobody999

  • @georgecooke2271
    @georgecooke2271 5 місяців тому +12

    In a game with such a big esports presence, to see the top level ranks being filled with cheaters and ddossers with the managing company basically ignoring the issue is poor form to say the least.

  • @nojay_
    @nojay_ 5 місяців тому +14

    in a lot of cases like this, the devs will wait until they can roll out a fix to the methods the cheaters are using before sending out ban waves. especially with a free to play game like rocket league, if their account gets banned they’ll just make another one and be back before u know it, so instead the devs let them hang around to figure out what exploit they’re using and how to fix it.

    • @realityvanguard2052
      @realityvanguard2052 5 місяців тому +2

      It's almost like making the game free to play has made it impossible to moderate. unlimited 3rd world garbage accounts have this game bu the balls.

    • @mac_sour
      @mac_sour 5 місяців тому +1

      but the problem is that ban waves will go on for months at a time before they finally ban them. so are we just supposed to not play the game for 3 months while exploiters and cheaters run rampant? smart in concept but ban waves really suck for the playerbase, especially when they're spaced out this far. and all of these exploiters are taking time out of the already short staffed devs from actually developing the game and more just fixing all of this.

    • @realityvanguard2052
      @realityvanguard2052 5 місяців тому

      @@mac_sour They don't develop shit lol. They just make 2 or 3 cars that don't even fit the hitbox they give them, and then spam us with AI generated toppers and absolute garbage, while continually removing actual content from the game.
      Know what would be nice? a SECOND dropshot arena. Nope, can't afford to make ONE more arena for dropshot, we need to make 93241898154 more incredibly stupid looking toppers for babies.
      Ban waves DO NOTHING! On no! you banned by 91481489th account!?!?! What will I do? Quit? Or maybe i'll just make my 91481490th account :)
      The game is an unsustainable trashfire that needs to die. I wish it died while it still had some dignity left. Epic should have just shuttered the entire game, instead of making it free.

  • @sadgreenrl5119
    @sadgreenrl5119 5 місяців тому +65

    Bans typically occur in waves. This approach allows epic to first identify and remove the exploit being used by the hackers. By monitoring the actions of the exploiters before banning them, epic can better understand how their systems are being compromised. Immediate bans could eliminate these examples, making it more challenging to patch the exploit. They are taking a while tho.

    • @MilliardBeats
      @MilliardBeats 5 місяців тому +3

      I wouldn’t be supieses if you’re right but where did you read/find this out?

    • @sammoore871
      @sammoore871 5 місяців тому +15

      @@MilliardBeats as someone who works in app development and adjacent to cyber security, this is a common practice. Basically treating the service as a "honeypot" (you can look this term up) to observe the exploit in real time

    • @JumpRopeGazing
      @JumpRopeGazing 5 місяців тому

      this is a reasoning that epic games gives, please keep that in mind, other games dont have the same issues with addressing exploits more quickly, epic games and psyonix cope to keep the playerbase less loud its not an actual valid reason for the lack of action. theyre the same company that in an illegal move removed trading essentially stealing money from fuck tons of players at once, a completely illegal act as it is stealing access to once liquid assets, they are open to committing crimes against their own community for money whilst people complain about the game being in an unplayable state they dont deserve to have their words on the matter trusted theyve shown that time and time again

    • @sadgreenrl5119
      @sadgreenrl5119 5 місяців тому +7

      @@MilliardBeats I study computer science and do development in general. It's quite a common practice, especially in game development. Another reason they typically ban in waves is because it prevents the hackers from changing their method to adapt to their specific ban.

    • @JumpRopeGazing
      @JumpRopeGazing 5 місяців тому

      @@sadgreenrl5119 bans do occur in waves but that reasoning does not explain the snails pace, epic gives that reasoning as if it makes sense but in reality most games with such an active playerbase have things like this addressed much sooner than psyonix ever seems to act on things, showing some sort of clear issue with how they handle these things

  • @Nicksabobe
    @Nicksabobe 5 місяців тому +8

    I got ddossed in champ 1💀

    • @XTRA999
      @XTRA999 5 місяців тому +1

      same here man

  • @HomiePicks
    @HomiePicks 5 місяців тому +8

    thats how you know the games going downhill, when it starts affecting all the pro players in the game

  • @Appelsous
    @Appelsous 5 місяців тому +37

    The way Jack and other pro players feel about these cheaters is the exact feeling the majority of the playerbase has with smurfs.
    And Epic/Psyonix does not prioritize this at all.

    • @largeshaftzac8027
      @largeshaftzac8027 5 місяців тому +5

      I’m not sure that’s really the same tbh

    • @jhat2014
      @jhat2014 5 місяців тому +5

      I don't ever encounter smurfs. Sometimes people accuse me of being a smurf, but it's just because I'm super inconsistent. I have bad days, good days, and, sometimes, rarely, really really good days. On bad days my teammates call me shit, go afk, tell me to kms, and so on. On good days people leave without saying gg, but at least they stay quiet. On those really really good days everyone thinks i'm smurfing. I know I'm not the only one who experiences this, because all of us except for the pros are super inconsistent. I think a large percentage of smurf anger is unjustified.

    • @opliko
      @opliko 5 місяців тому

      @@jhat2014 There's actually more smurfs than people think there are, I check a lot of the time on the rltracker site and I'm correct like 90% of the time, very rare that I suspect a smurf and they aren't. Currently in c1 2v2 the frequency of smurfs is something like 1 in 5 games to 1 in 10 games, but sometimes I get 2 games in a row as well with a smurf.

    • @midwesternfarmer615
      @midwesternfarmer615 5 місяців тому +1

      Any ideas you want to put forth to prevent ppl from making a new account and joining low-level lobbies

    • @j1saysum706
      @j1saysum706 5 місяців тому

      @@midwesternfarmer615I believe smurfing / boosting is illegal in Korea. They are obviously way more serious about esports

  • @mrits4real
    @mrits4real 5 місяців тому +2

    Your not going insane. Your not whining. Its a fair complaint. Again.
    Psyonix / Epic. Please wake up.

  • @DeathFrown
    @DeathFrown 5 місяців тому +5

    Jack, Thor(PirateSoftware) made a great short/video on how the industry combats these exploits/hacks, and I can only hope Epic is taking this approach, but the tldr is that they ban them in batches, ban waves, essentially they let them create some short-term chaos in order to grab the majority of these types of players.

  • @SilasWard-r6p
    @SilasWard-r6p 5 місяців тому +2

    For 1v1 videos you should do more private matches with different pros or 1v1ners

  • @Orion6479
    @Orion6479 5 місяців тому +5

    I agree with you 100%. Epic is pathetic.

    • @brekkoh
      @brekkoh 5 місяців тому +3

      the most pathetic part is it would take just 1 person dedicated to it, and they apparently dont have even that, for a billion dollar company? come on

  • @eighties3101
    @eighties3101 5 місяців тому +1

    Epic games and every other game developer do ban waves and not singlural bans. I dont know why they do it that way, but it is something devs do. Rocket league needs a better way to report players and maybe a way to time out a player if he gets too many reports or smth.

  • @Robert-go4oe
    @Robert-go4oe 5 місяців тому +3

    ApparentlyJack, your ones videos have helped my game play so freaking much! I was stuck in silver 2/3 and just by watching you and learning when you challenge and all that stuff and just play smart I’ve getting to gold 2! I just wanna encourage you to keep going! Ik all the cheaters are annoying! I just hope this can encourage you to keep going my guy!

    • @hello-hw4iw
      @hello-hw4iw 5 місяців тому +1

      Dont copy the pros too much tho cuz pros might go for stuff that you might not be able to do such as double flip resets. But one thing you can learn from them is being patient.

    • @Robert-go4oe
      @Robert-go4oe 5 місяців тому

      Yep thats exactly what’s helped me! Learning when to challenge and when to put pressure and all that good stuff

  • @yorzengaming
    @yorzengaming 5 місяців тому +2

    Day 952 - Me: Please implement Anti-Cheat system, after 9 years c'mon?
    Epic (Fails) Games: No, but now you can see your teammate's boost meter so you can steal his boost and be toxic about it.

  • @NirvanaNimbus
    @NirvanaNimbus 5 місяців тому +26

    Any Video Game that is online and you interact with other players turns into toxic trash. There isn't a single Online Multiplayer game that the experience isn't ruined by other players.

    • @JumpRopeGazing
      @JumpRopeGazing 5 місяців тому +3

      not to the extent of rocket league though unless the brand really gives up, rocket league has the highest self reported smurf counts of any other game, keep in mind people likely to respond are likely higher ranks so 70+% of players is mainly counting higher ranks maybe like plat up? cheating often goes completely unaddressed, and in the rules of the game smurfing isnt even actually against the rules outright, not that reports actually do anything, only bot automated chat bans work nobody gets stopped at all for anything else you can smurf and boost all you want youll have new accounts with names literally joking about the fact that theyre smurfing and still no ban this game is a moderation hell hole

    • @opliko
      @opliko 5 місяців тому

      @@JumpRopeGazing I do love when I get the notification that someone I reported for slurs is banned though lol

    • @eduardoleiva7155
      @eduardoleiva7155 5 місяців тому

      Helldivers 2

    • @isaakvandaalen3899
      @isaakvandaalen3899 5 місяців тому

      It's not multiplayer that's the problem, it's the competitive nature of the games - thats what brings out toxicity. The "My skill vs. Your skill" mentality naturally brings people's egos into the way they think and play.

    • @NirvanaNimbus
      @NirvanaNimbus 5 місяців тому

      @isaakvandaalen3899 I disagree. I don't know many games I've played in ranked or Cas where someone is just there to deliberately throw the game. Or people will be winning and quit before the end of the match to hold their rank. Or if you do anything at all that the other player doesn't like for any reason, then they just verbally barrage you with insults and type instead of play. I can literally go on that game at any time on any day and experience this. There are many, many other examples I could provide as well.

  • @perico407
    @perico407 5 місяців тому +2

    What is really killing Rocket League is having unplayable lag and continuous connection drops with a ping of 50 unless you play on a +2000 dollar PC or on new generations.

    • @Duddy8822
      @Duddy8822 5 місяців тому

      Idk, I play on an Xbox and get normal ping with Sky broadband ( known to be shit in the UK ).

  • @mostafaadly4859
    @mostafaadly4859 5 місяців тому +6

    As a developer myself, I can tell you a bit about the situation Epic Games is putting "High Ranked" players in (which is letting those cheaters play although the game's company knows about this).
    This situation you can call it as "Collecting Data", banning every cheater is not gonna help the problem. Actually it's gonna make it worse because they won't know the source for it.
    We developers need testing, a lot of data, bugs, cheaters; WE LOVE THEM. because they make the application, game, website more production-ready, usable, user-friendly, hack-free.
    This is not the best for the people who are playing against those cheaters, but it's for the best for your future gameplay experience.
    Eventually:
    Every company gives a huge consideration to their users (even if Epic Games is treating us like sh*t for Fortnite), but we're the biggest source of income of Rocket League.
    I understand that treating pros, content creators, players like this is not the ideal, but they treat you now like sh*t for your future comfort.
    Hope this helps someone and sorry for my weak English. ❤

    • @Boywitauke
      @Boywitauke 5 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for the explanation

    • @Monsolido
      @Monsolido 5 місяців тому +2

      You're giving Epic Games too much credit. Like Jack said, there's been an active DDOSer for over a year, reported by many pros, without getting banned. They're not collecting data. Actually there's no in game data to collect on this particular issue. The DDOSers obviously use third party programs to disconnect their opponent, not in game inputs. The solution would be to upgrade the servers and their security, but Epic Games doesn't even own most of them, and doesn't seem willing to pay for better servers. I'm willing to bet that this method isn't going away any time soon.

    • @DerEngel-RL
      @DerEngel-RL 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Monsolidowait i dont Unserstand mutch of that does the ddoser get disconectet too or does He win and Rank up?

    • @Monsolido
      @Monsolido 5 місяців тому +1

      @@DerEngel-RL Of course he wins and ranks up

    • @DerEngel-RL
      @DerEngel-RL 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Monsolido i thought the ddoser laggs the Server down dosnt He get kicket too than?

  • @maglam91
    @maglam91 5 місяців тому +1

    You have all the right to get upset and anger while you talk in this video
    for someone like you who is a pro player and consume all his time with one game
    you absolutely have right to get anger
    we feel you
    we all love RL but shame on Epic to let it down like this and not trying to fix it.
    Keep playing Jack we right behind you.

  • @QSOLOsRL
    @QSOLOsRL 5 місяців тому +7

    They should make a dummy server where if you are reported for cheating you're sent there

    • @Piktro
      @Piktro 5 місяців тому +3

      Flag accounts, put them up against other cheaters, stop rewarding with MMR.

    • @Palaecro
      @Palaecro 5 місяців тому +2

      I've seen others suggest the same.

    • @Nerivean
      @Nerivean 5 місяців тому +1

      BRO THAT'S GENIOUS

  • @MaksimLuzik-mxmz
    @MaksimLuzik-mxmz 5 місяців тому +1

    Is that actually DDoS:ing server or are they DDoS:ing your connection @ApparentlyJack? Just wondering if these "hackers" would DDoS the server, they would also loose any progression/points?

  • @ElMeeg
    @ElMeeg 5 місяців тому +5

    rlcs is carrying rocket league rn, rankeds are unplayable

  • @Flava_Dave
    @Flava_Dave 5 місяців тому +1

    Nah you have every right to complain. Epic can put out an update every once in a while and they can communicate a little more than they have been and they can do x or y, but at the end of the day BEING ABLE TO PLAY THE GAME is THE most important thing and when they actively ignore threats that keep players from being able to do that, you and every other pro absolutely should be complaining

  • @ToothpasteJuice
    @ToothpasteJuice 5 місяців тому +14

    Here's what I think: reporting is BROKEN. Can't tell you how many times I get clipped on by a guy in 2s while his tm8 has 9 pts at the end. Then, get to the end-game screen and see it was a champ 2 and a plat 1. Like obviously boosting. I report. Nothing. Ever. In 6 years. Not once.

    • @greekd00d69
      @greekd00d69 5 місяців тому +3

      All my friends are bad at the game man, my b

    • @opatolive
      @opatolive 5 місяців тому +2

      erm... you cant have 9 points.. xD

    • @JumpRopeGazing
      @JumpRopeGazing 5 місяців тому

      @@greekd00d69 then dont play ranked on an extra account. you play on your main and do ranked or you dont play ranked its pretty simple

    • @everjan66
      @everjan66 5 місяців тому

      @@opatoliveu can

    • @greekd00d69
      @greekd00d69 5 місяців тому

      @@JumpRopeGazing i still play on main, i just dont care about my rank. Im a casual main but sometimes queue ranked with my shitter friends 🤷‍♂️. I could prob be mid gc if i played rank more alone but i sit around mid to low champ cus i queue with bad players.

  • @e2jie
    @e2jie 4 місяці тому +1

    Epic, I am uninstalling your games because of your obsession with designing and coloring, your bias toward your first achievement in gaming history (Fortnite), and your application of unreasonable, illogical, and non-strategic decisions throughout your system, can't you manage as big company such an issue, like fr, servers sucks, deleting improtant lore (trade) that had no issue to anyone, having complicated system the exclude many cross-players, cheating and hacking still high and that wasn't happening until your system flow arrive, account getting lost and washing history of time and funds they spent, and what really concerning, your support team can't be reach. Is that all less important than designing new colour can be done by your side in a day. Is your dev and management really go to work, or Maldives brake is where you had nature inspiration for new decals and dances. Guess no one hearing, advice been a shame for them for so long.

  • @damiozr1603
    @damiozr1603 5 місяців тому +5

    I love how epic just slowly kills the game, really demotivating.

    • @Mster_J
      @Mster_J 5 місяців тому

      It’s not their fault, it’s the players’ faults

    • @sebastianbetancourt1428
      @sebastianbetancourt1428 5 місяців тому

      They kill Trading, its theyr fault,trading was so fun.​@@Mster_J

    • @Mster_J
      @Mster_J 5 місяців тому

      @@sebastianbetancourt1428 only the loud minority gave a hoot about trading. Trading isn’t even essential to the game, so the decision to remove it wasn’t a killer.
      The players are killing the game. They trash talk the game all day which just influences others to stop playing it. As long as the core mechanics of the game aren’t messed with (hit ball into goal and score) people shouldn’t complain

    • @TheMystakeCrystal
      @TheMystakeCrystal 5 місяців тому

      @@Mster_J How ?

  • @shayneauer6063
    @shayneauer6063 5 місяців тому +1

    I’ve gotten ddos out of games every couple months for a few years now, hackers have been here it’s just easier for them now. I’m routed with 500 mb speed and get about 25 ping so it’s not my internet. Also same process as when I got ddos in Bo3 and Bo2 years ago

  • @buttonzthecat8945
    @buttonzthecat8945 5 місяців тому +4

    Im under the impression that the reason why psyonix/epic doesnt ban them right away, is because if they started banning 1 by 1, the others will go into hiding and the ability to continue ddos'ing (or the invisible thing) wont be fixed. So they wait until they are able to stop the exploit itself and then ban all accounts connected to the exploits.

    • @Diego_D7
      @Diego_D7 5 місяців тому

      doesn't change how incompetent they are to be taking this fucking long to fix stuff, it's not like psyonix is barely breaking even off this game...

    • @Mster_J
      @Mster_J 5 місяців тому +1

      Yes, they are most likely doing ban waves, but that takes time

    • @George-li1yv
      @George-li1yv 5 місяців тому

      You would think that. But with the invisible players glitch someone has literally submitted to epic how its done. So epic know how they do it. They legit just don't care

    • @GoblinUrNuts
      @GoblinUrNuts 5 місяців тому +1

      @@George-li1yv implying that knowing how to recreate a bug = being able to fix the bug
      Somebody definitely isnt a programmer lol

    • @George-li1yv
      @George-li1yv 5 місяців тому

      @@GoblinUrNuts And when did I say that? The guy implied that if they ban the people then they won't continue to know how it's done which isn't true cause they already know how it's done. They just don't care enough to ban them.

  • @Dash_rl00
    @Dash_rl00 5 місяців тому +1

    Agree with ya bro like me I’m a 18 yo high school student and I’m trying to be a pro player in this game and focus on my study but For literality I’m getting upset with this game like even me wasting my time playing it it’s not a good idea so I thought i may make a channel on UA-cam for the game but that won’t be useful the servers the ds players it’s such a bad idea to waste my time on a game is dying I think it’s not a good idea I can l literally say rocket league is dying guys if the pro players jack musty and even the others mawkzy zen and so on they need to be together and #epicgames is killing rocket league.

  • @JoshProm
    @JoshProm 5 місяців тому +5

    I hope a new company buys rocket league. Love the game but it needs love too

  • @JebemTiZivot
    @JebemTiZivot 4 місяці тому +1

    Epic never cared about the game, they care solely about money thats the problem. They got rid of crates in the first 6 months of taking over to “stop gambling”, made the game free to play to bring in more players and therefore cheaters too, and then they started dropping the rarest items in the game in the item shop every week and got rid of trading so that they would have a monopoly on in game cosmetics which were a massive market as far as games with trading is concerned. Every thing epic has done since they took over has been motivated by greed at the expense of the player, so they couldnt give less care about cheaters in the top 1%

  • @blakxnz
    @blakxnz 5 місяців тому +3

    having g59 in his name is fucking embarrassing as a $b fan

    • @Perfumery_by_Sabin
      @Perfumery_by_Sabin 5 місяців тому

      $B are an embarrassment to themselves

    • @blakxnz
      @blakxnz 5 місяців тому

      @@Perfumery_by_Sabin lmfao

  • @xenoid4999
    @xenoid4999 5 місяців тому +1

    Banning should happen but its possible a ban wont fix the issue. If the attack is external to game servers and only runs by disconnecting the opponents computer, then it might be nearly impossible for epic to fix the issue and therefore banning wont do anything, they just make new accounts and come back.

  • @yves0315
    @yves0315 5 місяців тому +3

    Epic does NOT care about us. All they care Is Fortnite and thats so fkn sad...

  • @salty1582
    @salty1582 5 місяців тому +1

    Rocket league takes money away from Fortnite, therefore it has to die. It’s frustrating but obvious

  • @sgods990
    @sgods990 5 місяців тому +4

    Epic needs to do sum about those guys

  • @curtisarchambault5346
    @curtisarchambault5346 5 місяців тому +1

    Servers are beyond poo lately.. Also na mixing with sa is beyond annoying.. So much lag

  • @suupre
    @suupre 5 місяців тому +3

    switch your input buffer in settings from CSTS to STS and you will lag just as much as the cheaters.
    for the invis hack i believe vync made a bakkesmod extension that makes the invis players visible again

    • @everjan66
      @everjan66 5 місяців тому

      Tf

    • @cheechmo42
      @cheechmo42 5 місяців тому

      The bakkes plugin I saw on github has a note saying psyonix fixed the exploit and the plugin is no longer necessary

  • @jl3laze86
    @jl3laze86 5 місяців тому +1

    Stop making videos showcasing these losers. They want you to expose them, your giving them the attention they never had growing up

  • @Brecish
    @Brecish 5 місяців тому +1

    Rocket League has too much potential and offers too much information to the player that translates in the real world and with real technology. Think of the number of kids nowadays pulling off more difficult aerial manuevers than Americas finest pilots. Physical conditioning becomes trivial and even unnecessary if we are talking about drone operation. Its too good of a simulator and needs to be limited to a smaller crowd. This can be done by breaking their own game and deploying bots and cheaters. Nobody wants to play a broken unplayable game. If the content creators are discouraged to continue making content then there will be nobody to teach the core principles of the game. Rocket League has taught me so much about real physics and aerial mechanics. I have even become a better skateboarder because of RL. As someone who has PAID for RL three times on different platforms, I feel like the game is being taken back from me without a refund.

  • @ozone_agnes
    @ozone_agnes 5 місяців тому +1

    Bro rant ur heart out if anyone has the right to be pissed its the players who have sunk so much time and energy into this game. Respect to you brother! G.O.A.Ted

  • @OfficialNinpo
    @OfficialNinpo 5 місяців тому +2

    People will say Fortnite is epics main focus but it’s not they won’t even listen to that community all they care about is money

    • @lemon66111
      @lemon66111 5 місяців тому +1

      yeah the rarity changes in both games prove this, if they get an opportunity to overcharge they will take it

  • @-Tidgy
    @-Tidgy 3 місяці тому +1

    Sad that the game was bought by one of the worst gaming companies in existence. The game was already dying, then the addition of these loser cheaters has made it unplayable. Long live RL.

  • @Him999LLJW
    @Him999LLJW 3 місяці тому +1

    Im in c1 in 2s and still till this day i get some ddosers. Heck last week i got one every day last week and it's my summer break

  • @RambinoYT
    @RambinoYT 5 місяців тому +1

    Keep talking to the brick wall mate, maybe one day it will care enough to move a brick to fix this.....but keep dreaming tho!

  • @Jhawk_2k
    @Jhawk_2k 3 місяці тому +1

    I thought it was just my wifi being wifi, didn't realize it was this widespread

  • @Temptazer
    @Temptazer 5 місяців тому +1

    Its not just ssl man, i got demoted to D3 after a ddos, and he aint even give up a goal there was 5 mins on the clock 😭

  • @offstyler
    @offstyler 5 місяців тому +1

    Make private bo3 1v1s against other pros instead of ranked for the time being.

  • @MrMisterMaster
    @MrMisterMaster 5 місяців тому +2

    You're more than good, Jack. What you're saying is absolutely right and your reaction is justified. We need more passionate voices like yours to call out on this BS going on!!

  • @Marcel0FF
    @Marcel0FF 5 місяців тому +2

    This game is dead with trading abolished... The chinese killed this game... And the devs are lazy people...

  • @wigsplitte12presents31
    @wigsplitte12presents31 5 місяців тому +1

    All they care about is the money Jack I honestly thought there was no way to cheat in rocket league but I guess this is the sad reality we live in today

  • @Noveralls
    @Noveralls 5 місяців тому +1

    happened to me 3 game in a row the other day in champ 2... at 2 am the lobies are dead. i deleted the game

  • @ac.creations
    @ac.creations 5 місяців тому +1

    The Comm Grand Tour, a full lap around taking all the bboosts

  • @GetOffTheLawn
    @GetOffTheLawn 5 місяців тому +1

    When a game doesn't use it's professional community to help develop the game further and maintain standards it leaves little hope for us regular players. This is why no one seems to give a crap in RL anymore. They won't listen to the pros because they is no one listening.

  • @confirmedleek
    @confirmedleek 3 місяці тому +1

    Taking Rocket league off steam was a bad decision.

  • @buttonzthecat8945
    @buttonzthecat8945 5 місяців тому +1

    Also want to say that Psyonix/Epic needs to bring back the White Hat Society, and encourage people who find exploits to turn them in and get rewarded for it, rather than just use the exploit cause theres no benefit not to use it

  • @Peter-wf8wc
    @Peter-wf8wc 5 місяців тому +1

    luckily I stopped playing RL when they removed trading lol. I was an OG Player.. I was every Season GC since OG Season 2... this game died a long time ago for me

  • @clowdyathv1916
    @clowdyathv1916 5 місяців тому +1

    Not only this but the ranked system in general is broken. Im hard stuck plat 3, ex diamond 2 in most ranks because i normally run into other ex d2 or actual plats. Games are always scattered since i usually solo queue. Some i clean sweep 6-0, some i get clapped 2-5. I get an ex d2 tm8, i get a carried plat 1 tm8, i go against plats, i go against smurfs, and i go against ex diamonds. Ranked is honestly broken and stupid. At least im low ranked enough i dont run into hackers.

    • @hello-hw4iw
      @hello-hw4iw 5 місяців тому

      Yeah I agree. Im gold 2 and I have plat tournament winners in my lobbies but also sometimes I have silvers.

  • @grindworksbmx9433
    @grindworksbmx9433 5 місяців тому +2

    This is happening at the ultra low ranks too. My son was playing silver one and was up against an invisible car. I told him to give me the controller and was able to defend and take breakaways until it was 4-0 and then got DDOS’d from the server.
    I was most confused about how someone running multiple ways of cheating is still at such a low rank. But the point is, I’m sure it’s happening at all ranks at this point.

    • @SimpleGamer14
      @SimpleGamer14 4 місяці тому +1

      nahh he was hardstuck silver one so had to ddos the server and cheat

  • @EricMango
    @EricMango 5 місяців тому +1

    To me, I agree with Jack, RL can be one of the best games. There is literally no other game like it, most games are exactly the same with different aspects, its all just different shooters, shooters with abilities, shooters with building, etc. RL is unique and this constant cheating, updates that take things away, it all just hurts the game.

    • @Ryctre
      @Ryctre 5 місяців тому

      You don't need to know what they are doing. Epic has all the information they need. Massive spike in mmr, wins exclusively from disconnects. If you're somehow afriad of catching real players in those metrics, have a human look over the flags twice a day. When these script kiddies can't even get out of diamond before getting banned, they'll stop, even if the exploit is there.

  • @bujake
    @bujake 5 місяців тому +1

    I LOVE your attitude, please, do continue! More pros should put more pressure. Please, Epic, this is the game we love to play and see. Don't let it go to ashes!

  • @l.bizzle3081
    @l.bizzle3081 5 місяців тому +1

    Well as Long as that stoopid ddos/cheat problem is around so that you can’t Play 1s, I personally would love to see you maybe trying out different game modes like rumble or dropshot.
    It surely would be interesting to see how a pro (especially the 1‘s King) does in these modes.
    Anyways, love your content. Keep yo head up and try to have fun

  • @DrumFFx
    @DrumFFx 5 місяців тому +1

    epic is playing the long con.. getting ips, data, account addresses, family members, hobbies.. working with the feds and about to drop the biggest hacker raid in history.. or just sipping champagne in a sinking ship..

  • @SamirDevs
    @SamirDevs 5 місяців тому +1

    i got ddosed in platinum 3 too lmao

  • @rladvanced
    @rladvanced 3 місяці тому +1

    12:01 is it just me or does it feel like jacks car is so heavy? idk if yall ever feel that way sometimes when u aint warmed up? i could feel that through the screen lmao

    • @eckleyy
      @eckleyy 3 місяці тому

      Idk what it is but you're right

  • @contrastOG
    @contrastOG 5 місяців тому +1

    As someone who has mained RL, CS and Tarkov for many years now, it’s really sad to see that the cheating issues have now started to ruin RL as well. We now have the holy trinity completed.

  • @wdavidxd
    @wdavidxd 5 місяців тому +1

    I solo qued 2s in gc2 and my tm8 was a ddoser and he kept on lag switching every 1 disconnected epic rlly needs to fix dis

  • @watchingvideos5643
    @watchingvideos5643 5 місяців тому +1

    ddosers ruining the game pretty fast 😂

  • @dominichayles2271
    @dominichayles2271 5 місяців тому +1

    I think the first guy is on the good goods

  • @quinnsmithy8778
    @quinnsmithy8778 5 місяців тому +1

    i hate epic games for so many reasons.

  • @alphrr
    @alphrr 5 місяців тому +2

    Isn’t it net splitting, a similar thing that’s used in gta to kick people off servers

  • @ryanwyatt6769
    @ryanwyatt6769 5 місяців тому +2

    But heres the thing on the other side of the coin too appjack. Is it really possible to get rid of them because the sameway they cant get rid of smurfing they cant get rid of cheaters. If they ban the account whats going to stop them from making another one to keep doing it?

    • @riotyy1171
      @riotyy1171 5 місяців тому

      hardware id ban/ip ban could prevent people from making alts

    • @ryanwyatt6769
      @ryanwyatt6769 5 місяців тому

      @@riotyy1171 but couldn’t they use vpn or get a new modem and router?

    • @humzahsiddiqi4286
      @humzahsiddiqi4286 5 місяців тому

      cheating is completely different from smurfing. Cheating can and should be stopped, there are always ways to prevent cheating

    • @riotyy1171
      @riotyy1171 5 місяців тому

      @@ryanwyatt6769 hardware id makes them have to get a new computer

    • @ryanwyatt6769
      @ryanwyatt6769 5 місяців тому

      @@humzahsiddiqi4286 not really Smurfing is cheating. You are purposely playing low ranks to compete, make content, and hit clips because they cant compete and do it with their own original ranks.

  • @Gil_552
    @Gil_552 5 місяців тому +1

    Hope this video get more attention

  • @hochaos14
    @hochaos14 5 місяців тому +1

    Epic killed Rocket League

  • @Palaecro
    @Palaecro 5 місяців тому +2

    They just need to pursue legal action against some they catch. Pretty sure no one's going to do this if they have a $500,000 fine risk.

    • @Salam2Aleikum
      @Salam2Aleikum 5 місяців тому

      If you from Iran Irak or some s222 country epic can't do 444s4hit

    • @Salam2Aleikum
      @Salam2Aleikum 5 місяців тому

      And why do you care about 9mmr so much crazy

  • @EndorX1
    @EndorX1 5 місяців тому +1

    These are not the only things that they don't fix there are alot of issues with nameplate displaying weird stuff of there's just a pointy arrowy thing in the middle of it(fiveup had it at start of game 2). Or the server quality recently was just trash for me.

  • @Azaleane_
    @Azaleane_ 5 місяців тому

    Honestly, as someone that started picking up RL in 2016, I feel like the moment Epic Games bought out Psyonix was the moment I thought: Alright, we had a good run, guys.
    Now looking back at it, I'm sad that I was right about it.
    I used to play Rocket League for HOURS every single day... nowadays I dont even play it daily anymore and when I do its just a few matches really.
    And to be clear I don't think it's even the game's fault. The game is great, it's just the way we get near to no communication and the issue is clearly coming from EG.

  • @TheMaztercom
    @TheMaztercom 5 місяців тому +1

    Bro did 2 messages to epic 💀

  • @ShigaruFR
    @ShigaruFR 5 місяців тому

    What I think is that I'm really happy I'm not a pro rn. My mental would get destroyed by how inactive a corporation which brasses so much money from useless expensive "features" and packs can be so ignoring of the current situation. I know psyonix is pressured by epic to make the most amount of money but that's not by destroying the content of a game and replacing it with microtransactions that the player base will want to spend any more money on this game. The free to play feels almost too expensive for what the game is in it's current state.
    If we need another 6 years for a game changing update (boost meter for teammates) not sure that many players will remain. This game was dying before they started making stupid decisions, they basically are letting the ship sink and letting down every item trader, (removing in game trading to get more money from the shop) players, content creators and now pros ( not fixing servers or obvious bugs, not taking action for cheaters, diminishing the budget of the pro scene; resulting in less motivation for the pros and no visibility on big events).
    What happened to rocket league ?

  • @helloitsnicko
    @helloitsnicko 5 місяців тому

    Yea I don't really need to add anything to what you're saying, Epic have been terrible addressing this silly business. What I wanna ask is... is that a Gen G rugby top?!

  • @ShigaruFR
    @ShigaruFR 5 місяців тому

    I think except if a big streamer or community starts boycotting the game (by telling people not to launch the game for 3 days) , actions won't be taken. I live in France, trust me I know how it feels like to have a useless power above not doing sht until you block all the roads and set things on fire. If that's the only way left it's extremely sad

  • @Schmidteren
    @Schmidteren 5 місяців тому

    Game needs to be come pay to play again. Being free to play sucks, these idiots just makes another account. :( Also bring it back on Steam!

  • @nikkolaifett9287
    @nikkolaifett9287 5 місяців тому +1

    Says can't get people to play 1s do to BS... Gets Chronic in 2s 😂

  • @VijiogFrito
    @VijiogFrito 5 місяців тому

    I don’t know if this would really help at all but I never see you report the player in game when it happens, maybe that would get them banned quicker?

  • @Caige-
    @Caige- 4 місяці тому

    It’s actually refreshing to know we all feel the exact same currently about Epic Games 😭

  • @PatrickAllen-h9z
    @PatrickAllen-h9z 5 місяців тому +1

    It is in all ranks fax

  • @Clydiie
    @Clydiie 5 місяців тому

    I really dont think banning them will really do much tho since rl is free to play you can just keep making new accounts