Your couple videos on these drops are the best I’ve seen on UA-cam. Just ordered my parts. Going with CPP, and doing a 5 in drop on back and a 2.5 spindle and 2 in coil on front. Really excited to get the project done. That’d be 4.5 / 5 to start and after settling, maybe add a block spacer to the back. Thanks!
If you have to raise the back, order some 1” lift shackles. They are a little aggravating to get on but they’re the way to go if you need a little in the back
@@gmtim3840 this is great. I was a little concerned on if I go too far in the back because I knew I could drop it with blocks. Will keep that in mind. Thanks! Also….I know there’s probably a ton out there but I’d like to take your advice on not using the drop shocks. Mine are worn, any recommendations on shocks you’d replace with?
What do you do when you get one with the longer springs in the rear? Do you remove some of the springs? Mine has 7 I think? Also what do you think about 3” drop spindles and stock coils cut 1 coil?
I hope that you keep this truck! It's absolutely beautiful! I guess that I like the lowered stance! But 2% looks good either way! Thanks for the video! I really look forward to seeing then buddy!
great video. I was thinking of going 5/6 because I don't like it to be too low in the back but I do want a decent drop. I found a 5/6 kit with 3 inch spindles on ebay.
You can also end up chasing fender gap. The rear wheel well is smaller than the front and if your trying to get the fender gap to look right the front has to come down some. If you measure from the body line to the fender trim you can really see the difference. As far as camber issue....Moog actually makes an offset upper cross arm shaft. It bolts to the frame but moves the upper control arm out so you can run less shims....and they are cheap! Love the long beds sir!!
I have drop shocks on my truck now. (came with them Rides like crap) I’m gonna take your advice and go 2 inch drop spring in the front and 3 inch drop spindle with stock shocks. My question is what rear spring should I use and what brand of suspension or drop kit you suggest and what brand shocks.
I'm going to do a 4/6 drop on my 86 c10. Do you have a suggestion on the wheel and tire size for that? I don't want to remove the inner fenders in the engine bay. Also, what about wheel spacers?
I’m not usually a long bed fan, but that red truck is a keeper. I really liked the green long bed you did a few years back too. I’m doing an IHC 5/7 drop on my 94 OBS. The kit came with the rear shock extenders and the instructions say to throw a weld bead on the extenders once they’re bolted on. What are your thoughts on that?
I’m ordering a 4/6 for my 85 short bed. What’s the difference in the flip kit vs leaf/shackle? I’m going with western chassis didn’t know if one rode better than the other or if it mattered either way?
@@georgefrancis3767 I usually do but just doing the axle flip doesn’t necessarily require a c-notch as long as you don’t plan on hauling much if anything in the bed. They do fine as long as they’re not loaded
I opted for the beltech 4/6 and did the c-notch too. I don’t know if it’s me getting older but when I hit a bump in the road my truck rides like hammered shit. Seriously thinking about going the airbag route but the fab work and the cost of the kit is astronomical.
If you used lowering shocks, that’s why it’s riding bad. I always use stock shocks on the rear with an extender and just a stock shock up front with no extender. A rough ride is just part of the cost of lowering one but if you run the stock shocks it’s not nearly as bad.
I haven’t had any trouble since I’ve started using the stock shocks. Maybe a little if you’re turning deep but I ya minimal. If you use lowering shocks they will rub pretty badly
So im wanting to buy the 4.5/6 drop for my 86 longbed but ive had many people tell that even with a 4/6, they've had rubbing issues. Not sure if they've ised stock or drop shocks. Makes me nervous, lol. Could it also be that coils are weak and lower more than advertised? Thanks in advance
I bet 2% would look good with a really mild drop. Say a 2/3. Though I like it stock-height as well. You mentioned it rides real nice as-is. So maybe just leave it be.
MY 1995 SHORTBED OBS IS LOWERED 5/7 AND IT HAS 315/35/20 S ON THE BACK IT HAS A SMALL RAKE IN THE FRONT I ROLLED THE FENDERS TOOK ME 2 WEEKS TO DO THAT VERY TEDEUS TO DO IT RIGHT! NO CUTTING AT ALL AND ALL BELLTECK I AGREE 100 PERCENT ABOUT THE SHOCKS ALL DROP SHOCKS ARE CRAP I USE THE SHOCK EXTENDERS ON BACK WITH ORIGINAL SHOCK S AND ON THE FRONT ALSO FRONT TIRE ARE 275/35/20S
Tim I have a stock c10 with the 15 inch wheels and I don’t want 2.5 inches spindles in front and 3 inches in back!!! I bought the 3 inches drop kit for the back!! What do you suggest for the front?
Tim - I followed your recommendation and did the 5/6 drop with 20" wheel. Now I'm experiencing a drive line vibration... Have you run into this on any of your truck?
@@robbrown7464 if you have a carrier bearing that could be it, just do away with it. If not, it may just be the pinion angle. I’ve never really had an issue with it but it’s possible
Question- You mention the shackle hitting the bed wood, and that's why you dont use those. What shackles do you suggest? I just did a 2inch drop shackle on my 79 step side and the driver side site 1inch lower lower in the rear. Do you have any suggestions?
They hit a bed brace. There are several different ways to lower the rear, one of course is flipping, the other would be drop shackles and you can also buy lower spring hangers. The shackles will hit the bed braces so the bed braces will require trimming. Not terribly hard either way.
@@gmtim3840 Thanks so much for the response! So I did the drop shackles and did trim the bed brace to make them work. Now my issue is the driver side is an inch lower than the passenger side. Any suggestions on how to lower the drivers side an inch? Thanks in advance! Also- I tried to find you on Instagram and had no luck!
I c-notch all of mine. If you only do a flip kit on the rear, you don’t absolutely have to do a c-notch but if you ever plan on hauling anything in the bed, even a set a wheels, I’d do the c-notch
GM Tim38 that is kinda what I was thinking. If you did do a flip kit and didn’t c-notch it, and you had something like a 4-wheeler back there, what would happen? I don’t fully understand the suspension geometry. I’m a novice for sure!
Hey, nice trucks. Could you please give me the length from the middle of your wheel to the fender moulding of your blue C10 ? I got a 85 C10 with a drop kit on it, I bought it as is and I can’t seam to see what was the name of my kit. Thanks much appreciated
@@gmtim3840 hey Sir. I have about a 4/6 drop for my 87 long bed. 2.5in drop spindles and drop coils up front and flip kit in the rear. My problem is that my lower control arms are rubbing my 15in rally rims bad. Do you have any recommendations for up front and/or a better stance/combo I could go with? Only thing I can think of is putting the stock spindles on or shave part of the control arms. Thanks
@@bryanschrift7778 you can grind the arms to gain your clearance. You don’t want to take off anymore than you have to do take a little off and then put the wheel back on and see where you’re at. I almost always run 20’s which have no issues but if you use drop spindles and run rallies, you will have to grind on the control arms some
Lowering kit, shocks and shock extenders probably $800 with me doing the work. Double that if you have someone doing it. You’ll always run into little things that need replaced when you take it apart, Ball joints, brake hoses etc.
That would really depend on what you were planning on doing with the truck. You can flip the axle which is 6 inches and be ok. You just can’t really haul anything of any significance in the bed. Another option would be to use lowering leaf spring hangers to lower it which would keep your rear end on the bottom of your springs.
You’re a cool guy. Ive enjoyed this series. Thank you sir. God Bless you.
Your couple videos on these drops are the best I’ve seen on UA-cam. Just ordered my parts. Going with CPP, and doing a 5 in drop on back and a 2.5 spindle and 2 in coil on front. Really excited to get the project done. That’d be 4.5 / 5 to start and after settling, maybe add a block spacer to the back. Thanks!
If you have to raise the back, order some 1” lift shackles. They are a little aggravating to get on but they’re the way to go if you need a little in the back
@@gmtim3840 this is great. I was a little concerned on if I go too far in the back because I knew I could drop it with blocks. Will keep that in mind. Thanks! Also….I know there’s probably a ton out there but I’d like to take your advice on not using the drop shocks. Mine are worn, any recommendations on shocks you’d replace with?
@@stephenvanvliet9812 not really, I’ve used different ones over the years but just a set of cheap kyb shocks do just fine
What do you do when you get one with the longer springs in the rear? Do you remove some of the springs? Mine has 7 I think? Also what do you think about 3” drop spindles and stock coils cut 1 coil?
Tim I love that accent of the southern folks reminds me of my good friend blessings to you and him 👊🏽😁
I hope that you keep this truck! It's absolutely beautiful! I guess that I like the lowered stance! But 2% looks good either way! Thanks for the video! I really look forward to seeing then buddy!
looks great, what size wheels and tires are you using ?
Love the look and stance of the red truck. I hope 2% gets the same stance.
great video. I was thinking of going 5/6 because I don't like it to be too low in the back but I do want a decent drop. I found a 5/6 kit with 3 inch spindles on ebay.
That’s exactly the information I was looking for. Thank you.
You can also end up chasing fender gap. The rear wheel well is smaller than the front and if your trying to get the fender gap to look right the front has to come down some. If you measure from the body line to the fender trim you can really see the difference. As far as camber issue....Moog actually makes an offset upper cross arm shaft. It bolts to the frame but moves the upper control arm out so you can run less shims....and they are cheap! Love the long beds sir!!
I have drop shocks on my truck now.
(came with them Rides like crap)
I’m gonna take your advice and go 2 inch drop spring in the front and 3 inch drop spindle with stock shocks. My question is what rear spring should I use and what brand of suspension or drop kit you suggest and what brand shocks.
I'm going to do a 4/6 drop on my 86 c10. Do you have a suggestion on the wheel and tire size for that? I don't want to remove the inner fenders in the engine bay. Also, what about wheel spacers?
I like the 5 6 drop. Red truck sits nice
What size wheels and tires on red truck?
I wish I could sell my 81 corvette and get one of these c-10s. They look so good lowered.
I need a set of those shackles. I want to level the ‘78 I bought off of Tim.
With the 5/6 drop kit do you have to c notch the rear??
I was just going to ask that too
I’m not usually a long bed fan, but that red truck is a keeper. I really liked the green long bed you did a few years back too. I’m doing an IHC 5/7 drop on my 94 OBS. The kit came with the rear shock extenders and the instructions say to throw a weld bead on the extenders once they’re bolted on. What are your thoughts on that?
Thats not a long bed.
Look closer, that's a long bed.
@@SOLDOZER
I’m ordering a 4/6 for my 85 short bed. What’s the difference in the flip kit vs leaf/shackle? I’m going with western chassis didn’t know if one rode better than the other or if it mattered either way?
The flip kit rides hood with stock shock and extender, you get 5 inches from a flip and I think 2 or maybe 3 is all you will get from a shackle
Are you notching the frame ? I want to do what you did on your red truck and. It notch ..
What size are the wheels
Do you used a c- notch for the 6” drop
@@georgefrancis3767 I usually do but just doing the axle flip doesn’t necessarily require a c-notch as long as you don’t plan on hauling much if anything in the bed. They do fine as long as they’re not loaded
Ok thats
I opted for the beltech 4/6 and did the c-notch too. I don’t know if it’s me getting older but when I hit a bump in the road my truck rides like hammered shit. Seriously thinking about going the airbag route but the fab work and the cost of the kit is astronomical.
If you used lowering shocks, that’s why it’s riding bad. I always use stock shocks on the rear with an extender and just a stock shock up front with no extender. A rough ride is just part of the cost of lowering one but if you run the stock shocks it’s not nearly as bad.
@@gmtim3840 Do you think the Monroe heavy duty shocks will work well for front and rear?
@@JeLifeCoach I’m sure they will, might be a little more stiff.
With a 5/6" lowering kit do the wrong wheels rub on the inner fender?
I haven’t had any trouble since I’ve started using the stock shocks. Maybe a little if you’re turning deep but I ya minimal. If you use lowering shocks they will rub pretty badly
@@gmtim3840 Thanks. i'm running the stock shocks based on your recommendation. keep up the great content.
So im wanting to buy the 4.5/6 drop for my 86 longbed but ive had many people tell that even with a 4/6, they've had rubbing issues. Not sure if they've ised stock or drop shocks. Makes me nervous, lol. Could it also be that coils are weak and lower more than advertised? Thanks in advance
What length shock extenders do you use?
I own the same truck color trim package everything 👍
They were 20x10 and 20x8
What’s the rim size and tire combo on the truck?
I bet 2% would look good with a really mild drop. Say a 2/3.
Though I like it stock-height as well. You mentioned it rides real nice as-is. So maybe just leave it be.
Any advice on lowering a 1984 Chevy Silverado long bed? Putting on 20” rims with 245/40/ tires? Only want like 2 inches leveled? Please help.
I know this is kind of an older video but do you recommend doing a c notch with a 4/6 drop?
MY 1995 SHORTBED OBS IS LOWERED 5/7 AND IT HAS 315/35/20 S ON THE BACK IT HAS A SMALL RAKE IN THE FRONT I ROLLED THE FENDERS TOOK ME 2 WEEKS TO DO THAT VERY TEDEUS TO DO IT RIGHT! NO CUTTING AT ALL AND ALL BELLTECK I AGREE 100 PERCENT ABOUT THE SHOCKS ALL DROP SHOCKS ARE CRAP I USE THE SHOCK EXTENDERS ON BACK WITH ORIGINAL SHOCK S AND ON THE FRONT ALSO FRONT TIRE ARE 275/35/20S
Hey I have 4 inch drop in the back and left the rear stock for now. Stock shocks will work fine with it hitting or bottoming out?
I always use extenders with the stock shocks on the rear
Thanks and Clifford looks good.
For the best ride you eluded to stock shocks with the extenders. Does that hold true for the front as well?
Stocks on the front, no extender
What is the tire size you can get away with no problems?
I wouldn’t never sell that red truck I have a red short bed in a Chevrolet just like it 👍🏻
Tim I have a stock c10 with the 15 inch wheels and I don’t want 2.5 inches spindles in front and 3 inches in back!!! I bought the 3 inches drop kit for the back!! What do you suggest for the front?
And If I need to flip the shackles in the back
That’s a great truck ❤
I did 3.5/5 from western chassis and my front is scrubbing and not level what did I do wrong
In my 85 suburban how would i lower the back 6" in the back without a flipkit with no c notch or cutting, i want to do a 4/6
What’s the tire rim combo? Tire size n rim size?
Tim - I followed your recommendation and did the 5/6 drop with 20" wheel. Now I'm experiencing a drive line vibration... Have you run into this on any of your truck?
@@robbrown7464 if you have a carrier bearing that could be it, just do away with it. If not, it may just be the pinion angle. I’ve never really had an issue with it but it’s possible
@@gmtim3840 Thanks for getting back to me. I have a one piece driveshaft no carrier bearing and just did all the u joints ... driving me crazy
@@robbrown7464 I’ve never really had an issue with vibration. Did you have any trouble with your u-joints or any issues getting the driveshaft in?
@@gmtim3840 No sir, replaced the U joints and bolted the drive shaft back in.
@@robbrown7464 has to be pinion angle then. They sell pinion angle shims that should get you fixed up I would think without looking at it
Would I need a c notch for a 3/4 drop and how low can i go with out a c notch?
I thought about dropping one time but I'm just gonna keep my truck a truck. Drop looks nice though not for me
Question- You mention the shackle hitting the bed wood, and that's why you dont use those. What shackles do you suggest? I just did a 2inch drop shackle on my 79 step side and the driver side site 1inch lower lower in the rear. Do you have any suggestions?
They hit a bed brace. There are several different ways to lower the rear, one of course is flipping, the other would be drop shackles and you can also buy lower spring hangers. The shackles will hit the bed braces so the bed braces will require trimming. Not terribly hard either way.
@@gmtim3840 Thanks so much for the response! So I did the drop shackles and did trim the bed brace to make them work. Now my issue is the driver side is an inch lower than the passenger side. Any suggestions on how to lower the drivers side an inch? Thanks in advance! Also- I tried to find you on Instagram and had no luck!
Where are you located? Want to get the 5/6 drop on my 78
Decatur tn
Tim did you sell this truck??
Not yet
What kind of wheels are on the red one
Thanks for all that info Tim !
how much backside on the front and back mag wheel
Is this a kit ?? For the 5/6
Yes it is
what size tire are you runing
What are your thoughts on the c-notch?
I c-notch all of mine. If you only do a flip kit on the rear, you don’t absolutely have to do a c-notch but if you ever plan on hauling anything in the bed, even a set a wheels, I’d do the c-notch
GM Tim38 that is kinda what I was thinking. If you did do a flip kit and didn’t c-notch it, and you had something like a 4-wheeler back there, what would happen? I don’t fully understand the suspension geometry. I’m a novice for sure!
@@Mr_TimeMachine_Too your rear axle would hit the bump stops or frame
Hey, nice trucks. Could you please give me the length from the middle of your wheel to the fender moulding of your blue C10 ? I got a 85 C10 with a drop kit on it, I bought it as is and I can’t seam to see what was the name of my kit.
Thanks much appreciated
I’ll try to remember to do that this evening
Is it for sale ...im interested
I sold it a while back.
@@gmtim3840 i figured that ...im just catching up to your videos ....ill catch up this week ....when I see a rig I like , ill let you know.
The guy i bought mine from said it had a 6/10. Looking at your 5/6 I can imagine he was telling me right.
Is there any practical reason to drop these trucks? Factory height looks much better in my opinion.
To each their own. Most like them lowered. I like them either way myself but prefer them lowered
@@gmtim3840 hey Sir. I have about a 4/6 drop for my 87 long bed. 2.5in drop spindles and drop coils up front and flip kit in the rear. My problem is that my lower control arms are rubbing my 15in rally rims bad. Do you have any recommendations for up front and/or a better stance/combo I could go with? Only thing I can think of is putting the stock spindles on or shave part of the control arms. Thanks
@@bryanschrift7778 you can grind the arms to gain your clearance. You don’t want to take off anymore than you have to do take a little off and then put the wheel back on and see where you’re at. I almost always run 20’s which have no issues but if you use drop spindles and run rallies, you will have to grind on the control arms some
Great info 👍 Thanks
how much did it run you to drop this truck to a 5/6???
Lowering kit, shocks and shock extenders probably $800 with me doing the work. Double that if you have someone doing it. You’ll always run into little things that need replaced when you take it apart, Ball joints, brake hoses etc.
What tire size and rim size
How do you order it on eBay
How low can I go on the rear without c notch?
That would really depend on what you were planning on doing with the truck. You can flip the axle which is 6 inches and be ok. You just can’t really haul anything of any significance in the bed. Another option would be to use lowering leaf spring hangers to lower it which would keep your rear end on the bottom of your springs.
man I luv that longbed .. so clean👌
nah .. Left Turn Bill sits perfect as it is .. raising the arse isnt necessary
Nice
what size wheels
20x8 and 20x10
glad i choose full coil over for mine..can make the high i want, get rid of the chevy lean, and got a firmer ride! :)....yes it cost a lot! loll
Oh the coil over stuff is nice for sure, I’ve looked into the QA1 kits in the past. You can spend about as much as you want to on different set ups.