Disney's Failed Next Big Thing: Prince of Persia
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- In the early 2010's Disney tried to recapture the magic of Pirates of the Caribbean by pumping out big budget blockbusters that went on to bomb at the box office. 2010's Prince of Persia: Sands of Time is great example of this. In this video essay I examine what exactly went wrong, and offer some of my thoughts on the film.
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Please let the next one be John Carter. Should've been called John Carter of Mars. 🙏
I remember seeing the trailer for that in the theater and yelling, "OF MARS!" at the end. What's the point of giving your movie the most whitebread name imaginable and LEAVING OUT THE PART ABOUT MARS?!
@onbearfeet It just makes the film sound so much less interesting. It's like making a film about Lawrence of Arabia, but you leave out the "of Arabia" part. Who would be impressed with that? What's meant to draw in the audience if the name of your film sounds so dull?
@@onbearfeetthat’s super lame. Don’t brag about that
So this movie was already failing when my dad and I decided to go see it. It was… good. Like… real good lol. We both loved it! I was so disappointed how audiences had acted towards it. My boyfriend at the time had read the books and saw the film. He said it was somewhat faithful and he was fine with it. As someone who never read the books, my dad and I loved it. Sad it failed so badly.
Now… Prince of Persia??? Garbage trash fire. Way to take a really beautiful captivating fairytale and turn it into something so bullshit I could seriously barely recognize the end product. Wtf??? The game had this PERFECT story. The first game anyways.. (the sequel kinda shit alllll over the first game). But the first game was so perfect, they’d only need to FUCKING ADAPT IT. Why in the absolute fuck would they change SOOOO MUCH!?!?!????!!! The princess? wtf??? She was so fucking bland and just this white chick with a British accent???? WTF?!?! In game shes this beautiful slave who breaks free and ends up having this truly earned romance with our prince. Then at the end the Prince is telling her the story of his adventure so they could stop it from happening. That’s perfect! She doesn’t remember her adventures with him but she hears all about it and I believe ends up feeling for the Prince again even though they didn’t have that same journey.
@@ryanb4940eh you’re lame man
This movie completely ignored the original plot. Sands of time is a critically acclaimed game and is easily one of the best games made by Ubisoft. Had the makers stuck with the original plot, the movie would have done well and would have given Disney the opportunity to make additional sequels with Warrior Within and Two Thrones.
I suspect they wouldn't have gone into R rated territory with The Warrior Within and Two Thrones, if we're talking about faithfulness to the source. That said, I agree, Sands of Time is *right there* and it's great. Then again, Disney also completely failed to do the smart thing and adapt the Thrawn trilogy over in Star Wars. It's kind of a Thing with them; take a beloved IP and mangle it, trying to cash in on the existing fans, while futzing around with it enough to reveal their contempt for the source and the audience.
@@teshtishtoshtesh3218 i mean, movies can be unfaithful to the source material and still be successful, the issue is that there was barely any artistic vision behind it, it was just a movie constructed by executives based entirely on perceived trends (which is basically how most disney movies are made these days).
Wait, wait, wait, wait! You mean to tell me the Prince of Persia movie was around the same time as SHREK FOREVER AFTER!? I legit believed Shrek Forever After was like 5 years later!
Never watched the movie, but man, this made for some great lego sets
I remember those lego sets I had some of those
Jake Gyllenhaal wouldn't look out of place as a local in modern-day Iran
Yes, it's really cringe seeing him imply people from the Levant and Iran are browner than they really are.
He doesn't understand what he's implying is actually pretty offensive to them, because they don't want to be perceived as racially distinct from Caucasians.
True but Wokes don’t care. They see a place that is hot & assume everyone there is Brown. Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t.
It would've still been better to cast someone with ancestry from the region. I don't think Iranians would've objected an Iranian actor.
@@RomeroRomeral Gyllenhaal has jewish heritage, so he has a connection to the area.
@@RomeroRomeral This.
Same as why Khan Singh is best cast as a(n apostate) Sikh. Montalban had the charisma to pull it off anyway. Cumberbatch failed.
Disney failures : a combination of failing to promote good movies (John Carter) while promoting the F out of bad movies (Pirates 4-5)
5 wasn't kinda okay.
As a kid, I loved this movie. I made my parents take me to the cinema three times just for it. I had the comic book, too (back then, Disney used to make comic books that followed the exact same story of their movies, I believe Pirates had a comic also). I haven't watched it since and am afraid to because, honestly, the editing does feel pretty jarring from the few clips you've showed and I don't really remember the plot all that much, but this movie definitely made kid-me very happy
I watched it several times also and I was in my late 30s.
The editing and colour-correction was ass, I agree; but we did get some decent banter especially when the Tea Party guy shows up whining about taxes.
I'm surprised it cost so much to film, honestly; it looked like half this stuff was done on green screen.
A great series for younger viewers to look back. Also make sense why the mouse relies so much on their cinematic universe, unwilling to let it rest. Fail startups can be harsh.
Finally the Prince of Persia 🙏
Forgotten failure? Probably because nobody who saw it thought it was.
The choices made in this movie certainly don't age well, and Jake Gyllenhaal was badly miscast - not only because he's not in any way Middle-Eastern looking, but he's literally the 'only' American actor between British actors/actresses there. There was even an interview about how he had to fake British accent just to match with the rest of the cast.
I really never understood the forced British accents in fantasy movies...even for movies such as Troy which is half fantasy or like 300 which is purely (un)historical fantasy. I mean miscasting is bad enough but then that forced accent is ridiculous.
I got one of the LEGO sets based on this movie as a kid, but to this day I've never seen it lol
Omg same! I got it used for Christmas and I'm assuming that my mom got it for cheap, because no one in the family had ever shown interest in the movie
I liked this movie...
U and me both, loved the casting as well
Not sure if this is nostalgia goggles but I remember really liking it in junior high.
I can not wait for John Carter 😂 I actually really like that movie too so I’m curious to see what you have to say
You're doing TRON Legacy right?!
I second this motion.
It's on the list, John Carter is the next one on the queue, though
@@isenhartproductions2677 How is Tron Legacy a failure though? It got a sequel, a game, a tv show, a ride at Disney world, a manga series
@@jonnyleeconway did Tron Legacy get a sequel?
@@marchingham : Tron: Ares is currently in production and scheduled to release in 2025. Not sure if it's a proper sequel or a reboot though.
Prince of Persia gets even worse when you compare it to the games and realise how much more bland it comes out after the comparisonon
Prince Of Persia: The Sands Of Time is an underrated Disney movie from Mike Newell. It’s no Pirates Of The Caribbean but it’s fun and has good action sequences. Jake Gyllenhaal does a good job as Dastan and Gemma Arterton is hot as Princess Tamina and she does good in the role. The score is good and the action sequences are well choreographed. I think it deserves more appreciation it’s flawed but fun
I loved this movie! It introduced me to jake gyllenhaal ❤
Just discovered your channel and the series. It’s a lot of fun. Looking forward to what you’ll do next. I’m especially fond of the parts where you give context about the history of the movie’s release. Things like strikes or other movies competing with it! Well done.
The only two things or should I say.. Characters I really appreciate in this film is Nizam and Amar.
Ben Kingsley looked the part, acted it well and overall was just the best actor possible for the slimy manipulative villain in the film.
And Alfred Molina was just a ton of fun to watch.
The rest of it was boring, mummy returns type tripe that wasn’t all that enjoyable.
Okay, overall I agree, but... Mortal Kombat and Tomb Raider both -did- do well, honestly. They captured the vibes of their respective franchises, were dripping with 90s-cool energy, and actually merited sequels. There are far more apt, genuinely terrible videogame movies to point to, like Alone in the Dark, House of the Dead, Far Cry, or the countless Bloodrayne and Dungeon Siege movies.
Uwe Boll did most of the bad /v/ movies iirc, and he was gaming the system. A real-life Bialystock and Blum.
I love this series. Keep it up these are some of my favorite film review videos!
Thank you !
I remember this movie fondly, so I was surprised to see it in this series. The video explained well why it was a flop, but I didn't get why it was so hated by critics. The video barely touched on the plot and characters
Exactly. I wonder if he has researched it again. The only thing I agree with is the cuts in the scene. But introducing problems and plot points frequently in a story is not bad if done well and I think they did an ok job with it.
@@lavasharkflowers yep, agreed
"Yes, Chidi, we've all seen The Time Knife"
I saw this movie in theatres as a kid, and I remember coming out of it feeling really underwhelmed, and thinking "huh I actually didn't really enjoy that movie. Is that a Thing that can happen?"
Pretty much any live action film Disney made between the Pirates movies and the purchase of Marvel and Lucasfilm fits into this category.
May 28th is my birthday. They were doing it for me ❤
I didn't like it because it was a bad adaptation of the source material. The game Sands of Time. Also because of the other reason you mentioned. But they went so much away from the core story of the game which is sad. I love the time trilogy. You should play the game it's a bit outdated by today's standards but it is a good 2000s gaming classic
I remember enjoying the movie as a kid and rewatched it about a year ago - it still was enjoyable, though not fantastic. I definitely see where someone is coming from for not enjoying it - some ofthe editing was questionable, especially when it comes to the action scenes. From what I can remember, the games didn't have a lot of slower moments either - though the movie could have used more.
I liked this movie, went twice to watch it and got the dvd. I have a habit of liking bad movies. I liked John Carter too😢.
They are not bad movies
When I was a kid, my cousin and I absolutely loved the prince of persia games (especially the two thrones, we played that game religiously) so when I was eleven and saw this movie for the first time I absolutely loved it
Then I grew up and saw the issues it has and saw its issues and I'm so disappointed to see how it all turned out. The movies you've covered has so much potential, but hollywood happened
Keep it up love your videos !!
Gods, this movie is my guilty pleasure. I had the most massive crush on both Jake Gyllenhaal and Gemma Arterton at that time, and ugh, I ate this up! Still love this movie
Great videos. Loving the series!
This movie was not a flop to me, I was obsessed with it for a few months.
Lego sets were sick tho that's the only reason I remember Prince of Persia
But...
Jake Gyllenhaal does look accurate to the video games.
It's as stupid as people crying about Jonny Depp not being a real pirate to me.
Finally caught one of these early! But come on, stop teasing us with the snippets in the intro - I'm waiting from my boy from Marsss~
Please do an episode on these flops:
Conan the Barbarian (2011)
A Wrinkle in Time (2018)
Cutthroat Island (1995)
13th Warrior (1999)
I love this movie need to rewatch it soon
I loved this movie and I was so sad it never had a sequel because if I remember correctly, there was a monster that goes after the prince for messing with time. Great sequel material.
There’s a massive hoodoo over video game films and I’m not sure why. They have a built in audience, for a start. But they also have an established cinematic world. It should be incredibly straightforward. But for some reason producers and directors decide to complete forget that and try to create something else. I can only assume they’ve never played video games or are trying to impress their children or something. Hopefully we’re far enough into the 21st century that people making films now actually played the games and have a love for them when they’re recreating them as films. I hold out a very shallow hope, but I suppose it’s possible
The first time I watched it, I actually hated it. I thought the dagger was a cool concept but the romance between the protagonists (which is a big part of the plot) was just too bad. However with time, for some reason here in Italy they used to broadcast it almost ever Christmas lol, I started to enjoy it more. The romance is still the weakest part but it has some cool action sequences and, like I said, the dagger is such a cool idea! I wish they had used it more.
Last year I finally played the game and I was surprised fans were sad it didn't follow the game more since it doesn't really have that much story. Just an excuse for the gameplay. I think the did an excellent job in adapting it into a movie.
Imagine if it did have a sequel but it was a crossover with Pirates of the Caribbean
That sounds like the worst collaboration idea ever
I get most of the problems , but the miscasting isn't that big of a deal , not all middle eastern people look the same , as for iranians (persians) they look very similar to greeks and you could easily find people similar looking to jake gyllenhaal amongst them
Are you from iran
@@lavasharkflowers yes , northern iran
True, also he’s an actor, it’s his job to pretend to be something he’s not
@@darthguilder1923 true
Such a good series of videos Isenhart's doing.
Hope to see sorcerers apprentice soon. Saw it with my mom in theaters as a kid and thought it was fun. Curious about its history
So weird I love prince of Persia, I love Scorsers Apprentis and John Carter is one of my all time favs lol.. got board and stop watching both pirates of carribean, Harry Potter
Eventually prince of Persia would become assassins creeed
I’ve never even heard of it. Easy to see why!
I thought this movie was fun as a kid. Pretty sure its not as good as i remember since I havent watched it since I was a kid. Btw, if anyone wants to know Jordan Melchners personal version of this movie, there is a graphic novel he wrote that tells a story based on the games. Its actually quite dark and not disney approved at all. Give it a shot.
I like this one. It's not a great adaptation of the Sands of Time, but it's a fun enough film on its own (though Jake was indeed miscast... he's decent enough to be engaging, but it would have been great to have a real Persian descendant in the role... if they were competent and not just cast for diversity's sake). Weirdly, I think a more faithful adaptation would have been worse, though, as they would have tried harder to lean into the Warrior Within and Two Thrones, which were gross missteps in their own way. There's no way that Disney would have adapted those faithfully, veering hard into R rated territory.
I think you should make FAILURE TO LAUNCH - VIDEO GAME ADAPTIONS, gosh knows we got a lot of that
Great idea
I think I'm going to make a video on this in the future, is it alright if I give you a shoutout in the video?
I would like to see more recent stuff in this series like Lightyear and Willow which were meant to be a Next Big Thing
The legos were dope at least.
I didn't like this movie, and it's exactly the type of movie i like. As a kid i was obsessed with a Sinbad movie I had on VHS. This could have been an updated version.
Great video man. I was a big fan of POP games growing up. Idk abt everyone else but this movie just feels right in hindi. I loved the movie and was satisfied watching it in hindi dub. But I'm disappointed with the games tho.. they just ruined it every part they made after game of thrones.
Price of persia movie was awesome. I loved it
and don't forget the awkward Prince of Persia the Forgotten Sands releasing the next year and trying too hard to hype on the movie (as Prince looks suspiciously too much like Gyllenhaal's Dastan). Together they are the relatives the family prefers not to remember 🥲
Who cares how much money the producers made on this movie?!
If a lot of people went to see the movie, that's a success, period.
Idk, i actually enjoyed this film....i find it to be a guilty pleasure
I mean.. this and lone ranger did spawn some pretty dope lego sets.
Probably the only good thing that came out of those movies.
I liked prince of Persia
BRUH YOU JUST UNLOCKED A FORGOTTEN MEMORY!
U do need to do john carter. Very disappointed it did do well. It just seems like they tried a lot more serious concepts that need higher ratings
I still like this movie greatly. I Watched it in 2023 after years of not doing so and I catched some flaws I didn’t notice before. Nonetheless I still enjoyed very much 😊
Bro when are you gonna do john carter...and tron
The lazy and white wash casting of Gyllenhal immediately signaled the lack of effort put into making the film.
Also, recovering from the '08 crash- people were more weary of wasting their money. Just like they are today with all the low mental effort Marvel movies.
Jake glynhall, a white man being a Persian 😂
I should give this movie another shot. I don't recall it being offensively awful or anything.
There are and were plenty of very white middle easterner, especially in places like syria and iran.
I honestly loved Prince of Persia when I watched it
made a movie about prince of persia sands of time...
use the time dagger 2 times....FACTS
Well, technically, Iranians are related to Europeans, about 3000 years back, but I still get some of the complaints, lol
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That's my birthday
I always find Jerry Bruckheimer’s movies he’s involved with interesting, even the terrible movies he’s produced like Kangaroo Jack, Pearl Harbor, and G-Force, Gemini Man, & The Lone Ranger there’s something fascinating about them you can’t turn away from. And at least you remember them unlike Disney’s Wish for better or worse.
Finally a video on the movie that I thought and still think could produce 1 or 2 more movies. But below are my thoughts
1. Budget was ridiculous no movie is worth more than 120 million you need to make money.
2. Found out that white Guys could live around that area (this is only according to the information I found).
3. Marketing was very bad " he may be reclous" I remember from the ads making him look like a cocky punk. Not good
4. Forget toys start a franchise first than add toys later.
5. Definitely could have two more movies. First one is two thrones have Destin go on a journey to defeat an evil Prince who can use the sand of time. Who has a sand army? Combine The mummy with two thrones and you have a good film. Then the other one would be an adaption of the forgotten sands. So you have two more movies and more money in your bank
6 lastly, it's very very sad that this series never got more because if you cut down the budget and focus more on story instead of spectacle you could produce some good products here. I would definitely greenlit One more film and see how it does if it was me. But great video dude. Excellent job
Also, if the racing's a problem, I have no problem in recasting. I mean I'm sure there's a great actor that you could find. No problem
Your other videos deserve views too!
I watch this movie while I was in Cairo and fall asleep sleep 😂😂😂
I was very excited for this movie. I love the sands of time video game trilogy. This movie was very disappointing.
Please JUNGLE CRUISE ❤
This series is great.
So, people didn’t like the movie partly because of the actor’s skin color? How racist of them, they should’ve been more open minded. It’s a fictional story after all, with time travel, a white guy in the Middle East isn’t the wildest thing.
He looks about as much a part of the scenery as black people in Viking villages and a black Anne Boleyn, I don’t see what all the fuss was about…
I think all of those are bad simply because of the historical and geographical setting. If it was pure fantasy, or if there was an in-story explanation for a character of that race being there, there would be no problem. It's just nonsensical to put a white guy in medieval Persia or a black guy in medieval Scandinavian without pretence.
Jake Gyllenhaal is one of the whitest dudes ever thats the thing. he looks out of place in any piece of marketing for this film
Yes thanks u
Man, Alfred Molina's character has to be the only thing I truly remember from this movie. Well, that and the fact that despite it being called "The Sands of Time" the darn things only show up twice in the movie. A lot of squandered potential for what was one of the main mechanics in the game. Imagine if Mario had only jumped twice in his movie. This film was such a disappointment for me. I don't hate it, but I find it so forgettable.
Do Jon Carter
0:50 I hate..
So we're supposed to embrace the multicultural re-interpretation of every western story (Bridgerton, black Anne Boleyn, black little mermaid, etc) but also hate the slightest hint of white castings on fictional non-western worlds? 🤔
Yes! i'm happy you understand!
For the algorithm
engagement
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Dubya. Prince of Persia is Persian, not Jake G.
Not forgotten. It's one of my favourites of all time and I revisit it regularly. Haven't played the games. There is something magical about this film.
Honestly I'll always wonder why live-action Disney didn't just do original fantasy musicals, maybe even PG-13 ones. It's still in their wheelhouse, but they're not remakes.
Persia is Iran, which are a Caucasian people. Iran is Farci for Aryian. It wasn't until the ottoman invasion did the bloodlines begin to change. So Gyllenhaal actually fits in ancient Persia. It is not the middle east. You are thinking of Arabs. Lots of Iranian people have blue eyes or green eyes and fair skin. Especially the farther north you go in the country or up in the mountains.
jake gyllenhal looks like the average person from shiraz, just say your racist and end the video there
I actually liked this movie...wish it actually had poc, but this is Hollywood after all.
This is such a cool Franchise! Keep up the great work!!
I feel like another category of films I’ve observed have been the hangover clones. From movies like Tag, Ricky Stanicky, Horrible Bosses, it always seems like a core friendship group of immature men getting into, most of the time, irredeemable hijinx. Always featuring a lot of horrible and sexualized portrayals of women, unearned redemptions for men who are acting irresponsibly and strange fulfillments of fantasies that appeal to misogynistic views. Obviously it’s not super fleshed out and I worry that I’ve focused on certain points a little too much. But just something I only started recognizing after watching this series.
Love that idea, there is a lot of those types of films