I always find your videos incredibley clear and informative. Some have allowed me to make much better and more informed, reasoned choices behind buying gear and some feed my geek-ish need to know everything about gear! :) Keep up the good work!
Question: You mention polyurethane frequently when talking about coatings, but membranes originated at polyurethane foam? Like Gore. So I'm a wee bit baffled. Can you offer come examples of the ingredients in a membrane?
I was wondering if they made a fabric spray to make fabric waterproof, and not just a hydrophobic coating but to repair missing PU membrane (Restore older rain gear) or apply a non permeable layer to say a canvas cloth? Plastic dip or even urecoat, 2 part they tout to be PU rubber based... Do they contain latex??? Just want a flexible PU spray membrane.... All I would like to do is add shine to a basic nylon fabric. Think spraying a run of the mill wind suit with a gloss to make it pop, make it water proof or make whatever color... {Paint it silver, or glossy red lol.... I want to make shiny PU gear out of existing gear for a art project... A lot quicker than having them made ;-P Is this doable? What paints will remain flexible enough to form a flexible polymer wall on fabric? I did read that a water based PU spray can enamel should be flexible if applied in thin coats may work, but the item my be unusable due to it being stiff as heck and even unwastable due to the curing process.... I cannot find any test results, products that can apply a gloss sheen effect. The closes found is Urecoat. They say it CAN be used on fabric and will remain flexible! I cannot find much info on this technique being used by anyone and guess I will have to experiment lol.... I found regular PU for wood was WAY too stiff lol.... Wonder what is out there to make a super shiny outfit just by spraying it lol.... Just for kicks I see the vid was posted in 2014 :-(
Thank you for the info, I work as a forestry tech in the field year round working under very demanding, abrasive, dirty conditions. I am reviewing hard shell products and debating between the durability of PU coatings vs the potential stretch and breathability gore-tex pro products. Can anyone comment on Gore-tex pro's abrasion resistance? Like i said, mud, brush, and rock all day everyday. Thoughts?
That should depend on the face fabric, to get the gore pro label they have to pass high minimum standards for abrasion resistance etc. With gore tex most of what your paying for is the quality control of an additional party(gore) that ensures they manufacture the product to their own standards for each of their technologies, be it pro, regular, or one of their new ones, whether it's worth it or not you decide, but you know there is another company validating that it's up to their own snuff to put their own reputation non it, for gore pro it means a stronger more abrasion resistant face fabric to start with with minimum seam strength, sealing, bonding, taping requirements. Gore isn't the only fabric IP company around, there is pertex, and schoeler, and many brands have their own versions that may be just as good if you trust the brand to do a good job, if you trust your own eye you can use the return policies to move the quality control costs onto yourself and buy generics, validate that they are made well for a 1/4 of the price or send them back. Once you know what each of the fabrics is, the weaves, the laminates, the coatings, how it should perform, than all that's left to decide is your economic politics will allow you to save that dollar when you read the label for national origin, or choose a retailer or cutout the middleman.
Man, sérieusement là, c'est difficile de trouver des explications de ce genre en tout cas je trouve. Thanks for this nicely made no bullshit video. 👌❤
I always find your videos incredibley clear and informative. Some have allowed me to make much better and more informed, reasoned choices behind buying gear and some feed my geek-ish need to know everything about gear! :) Keep up the good work!
Hi Simon. Thanks for the feedback! I have a bunch more in the pipeline so please stay tuned. Craig
I look forward to seeing what you have in store!
I agree. Very good information you guys are putting out here.
Great information! Can you please explain whether a fabric can be a water proof fabric despite having considerably less water repellency?
Thank you for being so informative!
looking for a TPU for a fabric ? Any recommendations of trade names?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
great. I have a question, why DWR is used on the top of the substrate? if used then is the water vapor really passes from the inside out ???
Is it breathable? And does the water proof last forever considering it stays immigration ripped
Question: You mention polyurethane frequently when talking about coatings, but membranes originated at polyurethane foam? Like Gore.
So I'm a wee bit baffled.
Can you offer come examples of the ingredients in a membrane?
Also, great video, I love a good textile presentation especially with performance fabrics. So cheers :)
I was wondering if they made a fabric spray to make fabric waterproof, and not just a hydrophobic coating but to repair missing PU membrane (Restore older rain gear) or apply a non permeable layer to say a canvas cloth? Plastic dip or even urecoat, 2 part they tout to be PU rubber based... Do they contain latex??? Just want a flexible PU spray membrane.... All I would like to do is add shine to a basic nylon fabric. Think spraying a run of the mill wind suit with a gloss to make it pop, make it water proof or make whatever color... {Paint it silver, or glossy red lol.... I want to make shiny PU gear out of existing gear for a art project... A lot quicker than having them made ;-P Is this doable? What paints will remain flexible enough to form a flexible polymer wall on fabric?
I did read that a water based PU spray can enamel should be flexible if applied in thin coats may work, but the item my be unusable due to it being stiff as heck and even unwastable due to the curing process.... I cannot find any test results, products that can apply a gloss sheen effect. The closes found is Urecoat. They say it CAN be used on fabric and will remain flexible! I cannot find much info on this technique being used by anyone and guess I will have to experiment lol.... I found regular PU for wood was WAY too stiff lol.... Wonder what is out there to make a super shiny outfit just by spraying it lol.... Just for kicks
I see the vid was posted in 2014 :-(
1680D Nylon coated fabric is suitable f Aprons Is it indigenous I need Samples of all colours Is possible to send
Thank you for the info, I work as a forestry tech in the field year round working under very demanding, abrasive, dirty conditions. I am reviewing hard shell products and debating between the durability of PU coatings vs the potential stretch and breathability gore-tex pro products. Can anyone comment on Gore-tex pro's abrasion resistance? Like i said, mud, brush, and rock all day everyday. Thoughts?
That should depend on the face fabric, to get the gore pro label they have to pass high minimum standards for abrasion resistance etc. With gore tex most of what your paying for is the quality control of an additional party(gore) that ensures they manufacture the product to their own standards for each of their technologies, be it pro, regular, or one of their new ones, whether it's worth it or not you decide, but you know there is another company validating that it's up to their own snuff to put their own reputation non it, for gore pro it means a stronger more abrasion resistant face fabric to start with with minimum seam strength, sealing, bonding, taping requirements. Gore isn't the only fabric IP company around, there is pertex, and schoeler, and many brands have their own versions that may be just as good if you trust the brand to do a good job, if you trust your own eye you can use the return policies to move the quality control costs onto yourself and buy generics, validate that they are made well for a 1/4 of the price or send them back. Once you know what each of the fabrics is, the weaves, the laminates, the coatings, how it should perform, than all that's left to decide is your economic politics will allow you to save that dollar when you read the label for national origin, or choose a retailer or cutout the middleman.