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Proms 2016 - Verdi - Requiem [Marin Alsop, Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment]

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  • Marin Alsop leads the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment and the Proms Youth Choir in a performance of Verdi's Messa da Requiem. Featuring soprano Tamara Wilson, mezzo-soprano Alisa Kolosolva, tenor Dimitri Pittas, and bass Morris Robinson. Recorded live at the Royal Albert Hall on September 9th 2016 as Prom 74.
    Introit and Kyrie 0:00
    Dies irae 8:20
    Tuba mirum 10:35
    Mors stupebit 12:28
    Liber scriptus 13:42
    Quid sum miser 18:40
    Rex tremendae 22:29
    Recordare 25:58
    Ingemisco 30:19
    Confutatis 33:42
    Lacrymosa 38:40
    Domine Jesu Christe 44:36
    Hostias 48:43
    Sanctus 54:08
    Agnus Dei 56:39
    Lux aeterna 1:01:48
    Libera me 1:07:55

КОМЕНТАРІ • 224

  • @ganderbeaver77
    @ganderbeaver77 3 роки тому +37

    I wish I could thank Verdi, for this his very best composition. What beauty and lovely interplay between the orchestra, the soloists and the choir. Reduced me to tears in so many places. To think that Christ earned it all. The music mirrors such a message when considered in this light. This has to be a standout recording.

    • @peterbekker8051
      @peterbekker8051 3 роки тому +6

      You should thank Alessandro Manzoni and his famous novel 'The Betrothed', generally ranked among the masterpieces of world literature. Verdi was deeply moved by the tale about the inner transformation of an evil man and composed his requiem for the poet one year after Manzoni's death. I agree, it is unbelievably beautiful. However, read the novel, and you will understand. Good luck.

  • @mariezenaida
    @mariezenaida 3 роки тому +20

    Wilson is a remarkable dramatic soprano. She can scale down her voice in dynamics without losing consistency. Lots of limpid elegance. She reminds me a bit of Caballe, only with more power and richness. And she barely has to open her mouth at times, it floats right on out.

  • @llserdr1
    @llserdr1 3 роки тому +9

    It´s the only performance here on UA-cam I can accept. No "crying opera solists" (this is an oratory and NO opera!), conducted with great feeling for the music of Verdis Requiem. Thank you very much for this recording!

    • @numbersix1908
      @numbersix1908 3 роки тому +2

      I could not agree more, if I tried!

  • @andrewhough8479
    @andrewhough8479 3 роки тому +11

    The greatest opera that was never composed - so full of passion and transcending the trivia that often characterises some opera.

  • @miguelmory7472
    @miguelmory7472 7 років тому +43

    Morris Robinson has one of the richest bass voices that I've heard in along time. The whole performance was great!!

    • @numbersix1908
      @numbersix1908 4 роки тому

      the POWER!!!

    • @user-ty3gf2fr1u
      @user-ty3gf2fr1u 4 роки тому +1

      After then, I got to deeply realize how crucial I receive the forgivess and deliverence against my sins.

    • @miguelmory7472
      @miguelmory7472 4 роки тому

      @@user-ty3gf2fr1u Amen

  • @johannkarlmanoel2634
    @johannkarlmanoel2634 5 років тому +57

    Introit and Kyrie 0:00 Dies irae 8:20 Tuba mirum 10:35 Mors stupebit 12:28 Liber scriptus 13:42 Quid sum miser 18:40 Rex tremendae 22:29 Recordare 25:58 Ingemisco 30:19 Confutatis 33:42 Lacrymosa 38:40 Domine Jesu Christe 44:36 Hostias 48:43 Sanctus 54:08 Agnus Dei 56:39 Lux aeterna 1:01:48 Libera me 1:07:55

  • @honeychurchgipsy6
    @honeychurchgipsy6 4 роки тому +5

    Anyone else listening/watching this during the lockdown?? What a stupendous performance - every element not only in perfect harmony with each other but managing to shine out in their own right - that takes some work/talent/ability etc.

    • @blob6371
      @blob6371 3 роки тому +1

      I get goosebumps every time I listen to it

  • @thomasboynton1
    @thomasboynton1 8 років тому +146

    I was in the choir for this! Great fun

    • @hepzebahsu
      @hepzebahsu 7 років тому +8

      Yes it is! Very good job. What is the age range for the "Youth Choir"? Looked and sounded more like young adults to me. Definitely not kids.

    • @hollowchatter7429
      @hollowchatter7429  7 років тому +13

      A youth choir - despite the deceptive name - typically consists of singers aged 18-25.

    • @_HiramtheGreat_
      @_HiramtheGreat_ 7 років тому +6

      actually I think the youngest person in the choir was 13

    • @carloCGN
      @carloCGN 7 років тому +1

      of how many persons consists the choir ? It is HUGE !

    • @jblash648
      @jblash648 7 років тому +1

      Thomas Boynton What's the bass name? do u recall?

  • @ganderbeaver77
    @ganderbeaver77 3 роки тому +12

    Beautiful. I pray all these words with more confidence in Christ's words. The soloists in "Have mercy" bring out the passion of these words. The bass Morris Robinson, whom I have never heard before has such a rich timbre. To see so many young men and women sing with such passion is beautiful, especially when you consider the message. Congratulations to Marin Alsop, the choir and the orchestra.

  • @ganderbeaver77
    @ganderbeaver77 3 роки тому +7

    My wife listened this morning with me. Lightning out of a blue sky. Thank you Lord for absolute music and also programme music which deliver your mercies and promises.

    • @paulraphael
      @paulraphael 2 роки тому

      Verdi is not the lord.

    • @ganderbeaver77
      @ganderbeaver77 2 роки тому

      @@paulraphaelSorry I might have given that impression. Was thanking God through our Lord Jesus Christ, but perhaps that wasn't clear.

  • @tonybennett4159
    @tonybennett4159 7 років тому +18

    When I first heard this piece, many years ago, I was bowled over. Then I learned that it was dedicated to Alessandro Manzoni, a man of great importance to the Italian nation, through his book "The Betrothed". I decided that this man must have been something special if this requiem was anything to go by. He was, and his marvellous novel is one of the great unread masterpieces of European literature. I urge anyone who loves this music to give it a try.

    • @jamespatterson7780
      @jamespatterson7780 7 років тому

      I first heard this with Eugene Ormandy and the Philadelphia Orchestra in the mid 60's and immediately fell in love with it. Have also had the pleasure of performing it in a chorus and orchestra.

    • @khaledgueddim7807
      @khaledgueddim7807 3 роки тому +2

      Absolutely! I think that Manzoni's novel is one of the greatest masterpieces of the 19th century. Such a shame that most of the people outside Italy don't even know it!

    • @pablodemarcos5379
      @pablodemarcos5379 3 роки тому +1

      La historia.
      En origen este Requiem fuè pensado para celebrar la muerte de Gioacchino Rossini, que Verdi admiraba mucho, en 1868. Verdi pensaba algo raro: que participaran los màs destacados composidores de la epoca con una pieza del Requiem cada uno.
      La cosa no tuvo exito y se quedò allì. Cuando luego muriò el famoso escritor Alexandro Manzoni, que Verdi veneraba, èl retomò la pieza y las ideas musicales, completando el Requiem al actual. 👌

  • @hudsonbailey674
    @hudsonbailey674 6 років тому +9

    Eternal rest is eternal glory. Verdi captures that richly. Marin Alsop is a fabulous maestro.

    • @brookeggleston9314
      @brookeggleston9314 4 роки тому +1

      Maestra!!

    • @hudsonbailey674
      @hudsonbailey674 4 роки тому +2

      @@brookeggleston9314 mea culpa, I should've had sharper eyes. Thank you.

    • @brookeggleston9314
      @brookeggleston9314 4 роки тому +1

      @@hudsonbailey674 Ego te absolvo! It took me a second look!

    • @hudsonbailey674
      @hudsonbailey674 4 роки тому +1

      @@brookeggleston9314 Ego te Absolvo? Are ten "Hail Marys" appropriate? Some PC viewer might chastise our gender distinction and advise we write "MAEST" LOL!

  • @pietervh56
    @pietervh56 6 років тому +18

    By far, the best performance of this piece that I have seen in years. Tamara Wilson and Morris Robinson are stunning. Loved Dimitri Pittas and Alisa Kolosolva too!

  • @eroicasingers7457
    @eroicasingers7457 7 років тому +22

    The attention to detail from everyone is remarkable throughout. Lots of things add up to make this a stand-out performance; the incredible vitality of the choir, the artistry of each of the personalities on stage, the drama of a period ensemble, and of course Marin's extreme ability to connect it all. I don't think I've heard a soprano of more transcendental beauty than from Tamara Wilson that night.

  • @ua6523
    @ua6523 8 років тому +26

    So honoured and blessed to he a part of this mighty concert!! As with all the years I have had the pleasure of performing at the Proms, every year only gets better and more special. #UoB #Simon Halsey #Julian Wilkins #BBC Proms Youth Choir #OEA #Marin Alsop #CBSO guest men you are the crème de la crème of choral excellence. I am indeed blessed to be a part of UK's best. Up next BBC opening season with the CBSO performing Haydn's Creation. catch it live on BBC Radio 3. Looking forward to this wonderfully German Performance at the Bridgewater Hall in Manchester!

    • @AdAstraCan
      @AdAstraCan 6 років тому +1

      I just performed this with a symphony choir and have great respect for all sections in this performance. Simply wonderful.

  • @jolantasaracin
    @jolantasaracin 3 роки тому +6

    I have dedicated this recording to my Mother who passed away yesterday. Rest in peace Mom

  • @draganvidic2039
    @draganvidic2039 7 років тому +18

    Tamara Wilson is a true blessing with that steely but rounded tone!
    Hope she will continue to get good roles for her voice since she is still young and can develop even more!

  • @MsPrescient
    @MsPrescient 4 роки тому +6

    It is SO thrilling when the tenor comes in after the choir has sung “luceat eis”. Fantastic piece. And I’m only listening to the first movement at the moment!

    • @oberon481
      @oberon481 3 роки тому

      I agree! The first entrance of the solo voices is a great passage!

  • @francoisbessing
    @francoisbessing 6 років тому +6

    The way that tenor stares at the great Morris Robinson at 35:00 is wonderful. Nodding in approval like yeah this guy's the real thing....

    • @phil2u48
      @phil2u48 5 років тому +2

      That is Dimitri Pittas who astounded audiences at the Metropolitan Opera as McDuff (it's still on UA-cam) when he was a bit younger. We are looking forward to hearing his Werther at Florida Grand Opera this spring (2019) and are so pleased he recovered from life-threatening health problems. Bravo.

  • @sarribel
    @sarribel 7 років тому +32

    that dies irae raised goosebumps.....awesome

    • @MattRichardsonX
      @MattRichardsonX 4 роки тому

      Bass drums have a weird timbre. Sounds more like a fat guy stomping on a wood floor than a bass drum. -Don't like it.

    • @boiyayeet7260
      @boiyayeet7260 2 роки тому

      the nuclear bombs are coming!!!
      RRUUUNNNN!!!!

  • @ConstanzeWeber
    @ConstanzeWeber 5 років тому +15

    Fantastic performance but surely I can't be the only one who gets really peed off that the applause is so often cut off! Everyone has worked their arses off for this amazing event and I so want to see them being rightly recognised for it with rapturous applause!! Please, editors, at least include some of it!!!

  • @AdenosinePush
    @AdenosinePush 7 років тому +11

    Oh man that brass section just ROCKS, especially the trumpets. Wow you guys.

    • @Leon-Hardt
      @Leon-Hardt 7 років тому +2

      Heavy metals! boy.

  • @robertcohn8858
    @robertcohn8858 4 роки тому +4

    An incredible performance - soloists, choir, orchestra all nailed it! Especially interesting was the youthfulness of the choir. If I hadn't been watching, I would not have imagined these were all young, very talented people.

  • @keithspillett7312
    @keithspillett7312 7 років тому +14

    One if the best performances I've heard in ages...

    • @shirleyrombough8173
      @shirleyrombough8173 3 роки тому +1

      I thought Verdi wrote this to honor Rossini. Is that not true?

  • @89sweetpeas
    @89sweetpeas 7 років тому +17

    We went to this concert - spine-tingling!

    • @shirleyrombough8173
      @shirleyrombough8173 3 роки тому +1

      How fitting that Marin Alsop, a woman, was conducting the Age of Enlightenment orchestre. Bravissimi.

  • @nicolasmoras3083
    @nicolasmoras3083 3 роки тому +3

    The bass it's awesome!!!!!!

  • @DiogoReinert
    @DiogoReinert 7 років тому +26

    Robinson is a superb basso profondo, he's so deep and resonant as Mark Reizen was.

  • @gerardmignon700
    @gerardmignon700 5 років тому +1

    Les chanteurs sont carrément habités ! C'est très beau. La basse ! Mon dieu quelle voix ! Ténor...euh ! Les femmes superbes, avec un petit plus pour Tamara Wilson technicienne exceptionnelle.

  • @mannyatthekeys2157
    @mannyatthekeys2157 2 роки тому +1

    The Lacrymosa brought tears to my eyes. Divinely beautiful...

  • @miguelfontesmeira
    @miguelfontesmeira 4 роки тому +15

    Incredible and extremely articulate choir!

  • @kraftpr
    @kraftpr 7 років тому +4

    Maestro Robinson has a true basso profundo "instrument" -- beautiful singing!

  • @pietervh56
    @pietervh56 6 років тому +5

    I have listened to this performance over 100 times now, and continue to listen. A very powerful performance and the best I have found on-line. The one with Joseph Calleja is good, but this is the best.

    • @brookeggleston9314
      @brookeggleston9314 4 роки тому +2

      This is by no means the best online. It is good. The basso is tremendous and I swear the soprano studied the piece with Leontyne Price! However, the chorus sounds extremely immature. I don't know why, since I've heard other young choral groups in the UK that didn't have the immature sound of this chorus. It's the most negative aspect of this performance. If you don't know what I mean, listen to any utube clip of the Libera me with von Karajan or Solti. The difference in the sound is obvious. Too bad. It was not necessary, and could have been overcome with proper preparation of the chorus. By the time they got to Alsop, it was too late.

    • @KSfan4ever
      @KSfan4ever 3 роки тому

      @@brookeggleston9314 I have to agree. The von Karajan production with Price, Cossotto, Pavarotti, & Ghiaurov was mind-blowing, and other-worldly, imo.

  • @jedavilav1
    @jedavilav1 6 років тому +3

    ¡Brillante versión del mayor de los Requiem! Gran orquesta, estupendo coro, dirección impecable. Los solistas, salvo el tenor , son de primerísima calidad. Lo conmovedor de esta misa verdiana es su carácter operático, no hay que olvidarlo nunca. Gracias por compartirlo

  • @billlawton1186
    @billlawton1186 6 років тому +7

    Brava maestra Alsop

  • @p02281969
    @p02281969 3 роки тому

    Those who listen this high quality of piece
    Of music are lucky enough to feel
    Both The God & human relations.
    Excellent conducting include all the
    Dedicated musicians. Thanks for uploading.

  • @leomariamandy007
    @leomariamandy007 3 роки тому +2

    You have to wonder. It's more than notes on a scale. And, there are only a few composers that truly embrace, our heart and soul. I have a theory...these men and women are Angels on loan; God's way of letting us know, we are His beloved children and each note is a tap on our shoulder, with God saying, Be Loving And Good To One Another.

  • @EASYTIGER10
    @EASYTIGER10 4 роки тому +2

    Performed this several times. Great fun to play! 😎

  • @LaDivinaLover
    @LaDivinaLover 7 років тому +36

    It is my opinion Tamara Wilson is one of the next "greats".

    • @e.lauratatulescu7595
      @e.lauratatulescu7595 7 років тому +10

      She is phenomenal.

    • @chipichipichapachapa733
      @chipichipichapachapa733 6 років тому +2

      She has an incredible instrument. I get full body goosepumps when I listen to her.

    • @EinsteinFelinto
      @EinsteinFelinto 4 роки тому +1

      she is already

    • @willcwhite
      @willcwhite 4 роки тому +1

      In my opinion she's one of the CURRENT greats! :)

    • @brookeggleston9314
      @brookeggleston9314 4 роки тому

      If I didn't know better, I'd think she had studied the piece with Leontyne Price!!

  • @oliverroycroft1082
    @oliverroycroft1082 3 роки тому +3

    This symphony should be done at Gillette Stadium with the orchestra spanning the whole length of the field and the choir spanning behind the orchestra in the lodge and mezzanine levels of the stadium.

  • @paulhamer5052
    @paulhamer5052 7 років тому +4

    A divine performance

  • @brunoandrade8619
    @brunoandrade8619 4 роки тому +2

    I loved!! Tamara!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @jayrockhammer
    @jayrockhammer 2 роки тому

    Marin Alsop held it down!! Bravo!

  • @johannesdenee6007
    @johannesdenee6007 7 років тому +4

    Wonderful performance.

  • @artelc
    @artelc 2 роки тому

    Thank you 🙏. I have sung in the choruses of many Requiems and this performance transcends mere mortal expectations. From the astonishingly large chorus (a force in itself) the soloists (I wanted to tell the soprano to open her mouth more, but it was obvious this was her nuanced performance) the conductor (so spot on) and last but not least the orchestra. Brava bravo.
    I have subscribed to this channel and am thanking my angels for guiding me here. This made my day!
    💐💐💐

  • @klassischekirchenlieder8909
    @klassischekirchenlieder8909 2 роки тому

    Ein sehr schönes und beruhigendes Lied.🙏🙏

  • @gpeddino
    @gpeddino 7 років тому +11

    Powerful "Libera Me"!

    • @shirleyrombough8173
      @shirleyrombough8173 3 роки тому

      And the Agnus Dei as well. Verdi and the soprano and mezzo.

  • @fabiusgraco5296
    @fabiusgraco5296 7 років тому +5

    O melhor é saber que ela rege a OSESP. Estamos bem cuidados! Parabéns Alsop! Bela condução.

    • @herminioteixeira5921
      @herminioteixeira5921 6 років тому +3

      Finalmente, encontramos quem se expresse no vernáculo Luso-brasileiro!... Seria mais do que desejável pudesse isso ser constatado com mais frequência! Por enquanto, o que parece é que, quem fala português, não é muito ligado à grande música, mas é de se esperar uma melhoria!: A espiritualidade espera por isso.

  • @winter1970
    @winter1970 2 роки тому

    Спасибо за ваш творческий труд! Это восхищает!

  • @thetygerpulpitwithpastorglenn
    @thetygerpulpitwithpastorglenn 4 роки тому +1

    My favorite performance! Chills!!

  • @alainlejeune1981
    @alainlejeune1981 7 років тому +4

    Grandiose !

  • @david_conductor
    @david_conductor 2 роки тому

    Amazing performance, such a perfectionist work and energy. Congratulations!

  • @Clivejvaughan
    @Clivejvaughan 7 років тому +8

    About as close to perfection as we mortals come !

  • @JH-tq3uy
    @JH-tq3uy 6 років тому +5

    Thanks for uploading!!

  • @michaeldoyle6702
    @michaeldoyle6702 7 років тому +20

    37:16 plus I have never heard that part done better, either by Bernstein (Aslop's mentor), Abaddo, Muti, Giulini, Shaw, orToscanni.

  • @tcr1962
    @tcr1962 5 років тому +2

    Magnificent!

  • @emmegabriele
    @emmegabriele 7 років тому +7

    what a basses

  • @kandacewalker848
    @kandacewalker848 8 років тому +8

    Rex tremendae!!!!!!

  • @mario230346
    @mario230346 7 років тому +2

    FABULOSO..

  • @martinawentzkat6556
    @martinawentzkat6556 7 років тому +7

    Gewaltig! - und kein Deut schlechter als von der Mailänder Scala, die bisher mein Favorit war...

    • @alexDD9995
      @alexDD9995 4 роки тому +1

      Oja es ist Gewalt und wie naja der Himmel der sich über einem Öffnet.

  • @Michele-zp1tx
    @Michele-zp1tx 7 років тому +2

    amaaaaaaaazing

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 3 роки тому +2

    we need every brass player in all the very top orchestras to participate in the dies irae. it just has to be that loud. poor old toscanini shouting his head off during this, and i don't blame him at all.

  • @jasontiller
    @jasontiller 6 років тому +4

    Wow. Lovely. Morris Robinson - DANG - wanna be him when I grow "down" ;)

    • @enzodb3640
      @enzodb3640 5 років тому

      Hi! Don't try to mimick other peoples voices, Morris is fantastic, but going for a certain individuals sound is unhealthy and can result in damaging your voice.

  • @michaelgouda305
    @michaelgouda305 4 роки тому +4

    How nice to see a young choir. At least most of them had got hair (and that goes for the women too). Seriously a marvellous performance - and think that the Pope of the time prohibited it to be performed in religious places.

    • @honeychurchgipsy6
      @honeychurchgipsy6 4 роки тому

      Michael Gouda - did not know that!! It is a very secular sounding requiem, from the melodic and orchestration point of view, but that wasn't the reason it was banned I'm guessing.
      Do you know why it was banned?

    • @shirleyrombough8173
      @shirleyrombough8173 3 роки тому

      Is that so? Why on earth? Nothing could sound more sacred than this music.

    • @extrude22
      @extrude22 3 роки тому

      @@shirleyrombough8173 women were not allowed to sing these scared prayers in the Catholic Church in Verdi’s time.

  • @TinnedPears
    @TinnedPears 7 років тому +4

    Singing in this was so much fun!

  • @julianaCalasans
    @julianaCalasans 5 років тому +2

    Fantástico, e que quarteto de solistas

  • @jedavilav1
    @jedavilav1 6 років тому +4

    Reconozco que Mr. Pittas se luce en el Ingemisco!

  • @briananderson8428
    @briananderson8428 5 років тому +10

    The essence of humanity. But how about a few minutes in order to absorb the audience reaction...? Why is it cut offf so soon after?

  • @silvr94
    @silvr94 7 років тому +1

    Oooh I love the ritenuto at 25:35!!

  • @verastern
    @verastern 2 роки тому +1

    Why do we see so little of Marin conducting? Are the camera people prejudiced against women conductors?!?
    In the video of Bernstein conducting he’s the focus of the camera!!

  • @laurohumbertocortesdavila6125
    @laurohumbertocortesdavila6125 2 роки тому

    esta opera son promesas del señor

  • @meeprific
    @meeprific 2 роки тому

    Heck yeah.

  • @littlebigjohn69
    @littlebigjohn69 3 роки тому +9

    wow, i think verdi invented heavy metal

  • @cjames0723
    @cjames0723 7 років тому +5

    wish the strings were micced just a bit better. nonetheless a phenomenal performance

  • @BKL2234
    @BKL2234 4 роки тому +1

    I did this piece in 2017. The hardest part for me was being able to stay standing for the entire piece, as I had a pretty bad plantar wart on my foot that burned like the dickens if I stayed on my feet for more than 45 minutes at a time. Ouch!!! Beautiful piece though

    • @ewmbr1164
      @ewmbr1164 4 роки тому +1

      "Libera me...." - I hope you are liberated from your wart? ;-) Kudos to you keeping standing brave and tall while singing this masterpiece. Brava!

    • @BKL2234
      @BKL2234 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you. Yes I am healed.

  • @FilipusWisnumurti
    @FilipusWisnumurti 7 років тому +3

    Wow this is really the first i see the valved trombone are used in a concert. Btw anyone knows what is the brass instrument used to substitute the tuba next to the valved trombone. And any idea what timpani is Adrian using there? the sound is really different and really loud.

  • @tanyadixon7980
    @tanyadixon7980 2 роки тому

    The bass was excellent! Not pristine perfect, but his beautiful power was astonishing!

  • @michelespagnolo9864
    @michelespagnolo9864 6 років тому +7

    This performance is actually one of the best I've heard, although somehow it kind of feels very 'british' to me. That's partly because of the insane rythmic precision, which I've almost never heard with this piece (even in the best performances) especially with such a large choir. Then the tempi choices, all slightly pushed more than usual. Then the period instruments in the orchestra. Then the 'polite', 'british' singing of the choir (is that NYCGB isn't it?), which stroke me, being more accustomed to the more operatic 'italian' style. This all sums up to an excellent, coherent, well conducted, 'british' performance, and that's why the only thing I kind of dislike here is the bass cast. Not questioning the awsomeness of the singer himself, but it's just the insane power, the overdramatic im-polite singing, the often imprecise diction, just don't fit *this* particular performance to me. Doesn't anyone think the same?
    Oh by the way: the soprano solo in the Libera me totally killed me. AWESOME.

    • @JH-tq3uy
      @JH-tq3uy 6 років тому +6

      Michele Spagnolo the choir is BBC Proms Youth Choir

    • @chickenschnitzel
      @chickenschnitzel 6 років тому +6

      No, I don't think you make up a story about the performance and then criticize a singer for not fitting into your personal narrative.
      The performance is not particularly "British." The conductor is from New York. The orchestral textures are transparent and the chorus is very young, which produces a shallow tone. Opera house choruses sound quite different, and not always better.
      The microphones are too close to the soloists for comfort. That's not the way you hear singers in the hall. Their vocalism would seem less pressured and rough with more distance. But then the Albert Hall acoustics would become a problem.
      The bass's intensity and power is a refreshing change from singers who have inadequate resources for Verdi and hold on for dear life. You don't hear Trovatore that often these days, and there's a reason for that. You wouldn't want to hear this tenor in "Di quella pira."
      As for overall rhythmic precision and brisk tempi, that's not new. You are directed to a number of performances by Toscanini, Muti, etc. That is not the only way to conduct Verdi, but it is a firmly-rooted tradition and not at all insane.

    • @michelespagnolo9864
      @michelespagnolo9864 6 років тому +2

      Ok, maybe I didn't explain myself... I don't think I'm stuck with italian interpreters, which by the way I don't always like. I think I've heard this mass in any possible way, both live and recorded, and from many different conductors, including Bernstein, Karajan and so on. In almost all performances I've heard, everything is focused around drama: very dark colors of the orchestra, slightly slower tempi, opera-style choirs, and super-dramatic super-vibrato Verdi-style soloists. This is, I think, a well established tradition, and it's perfectly appropriate, since we're talking of Verdi, but it's not necessarily what I always like to hear. Particularly with soloist: I've happen to attend a live performance of the Requiem where, in an acappella part of the 4 soloists, their vibrato was so intense that I couldn't even hear the chords anymore. This performance instead struck me for the opposite reason: transparent sounds, young choir, not over-dramatic soloists, faster tempi, better rythmic precision, etc... that's why I called it "British", as an interpreting style. But then, from the first entrance of the Kyrie, I immediately got a feeling for that bass of being out of place. Particularly his bad diction bothered me. Bah, I guess probably that's only my problem ahahaha

    • @eggboxrobin
      @eggboxrobin 5 років тому +1

      I agree. And I really don't like the 'English' Latin, full of diphthongs (leeberahmay, dominay, mortay, etc). Please! Italian Latin all the way for Verdi.

    • @frogmouth
      @frogmouth 4 роки тому

      Not British if you are referring to the choral tradition in cathedrals. Marin is very precise with rhythm always a legacy of NY Sao Paulo and conducting a bucket of stuff apart from Brahms Verdi etc. Swing, Brazilian, contemporary classical, show tunes etc

  • @michelegiovetti6678
    @michelegiovetti6678 3 роки тому +5

    NON È ASSOLUTAMENTE il tipo di Coro adatto per il Requiem. Ascoltate quello della Scala, poi parliamo.

    • @jaybee2838
      @jaybee2838 3 роки тому

      Finalmente qualcuno che lo dice, il coro non è orribile per questo requiem.

  • @kholroyd2283
    @kholroyd2283 4 роки тому +1

    the soloists are sweating buckets

  • @carlosarchuleta62
    @carlosarchuleta62 2 роки тому +1

    all the soloists were good, but the women were amazing

  • @AlephThree
    @AlephThree 2 роки тому

    47:00 first desk solo

  • @incription
    @incription 4 роки тому +2

    Shinjitsu ni totatsuru keshti nai

  • @orphanedbygenesis3065
    @orphanedbygenesis3065 3 роки тому

    DISCOUNTED BLESSINGS. The middle section of this prog-rock piece is based on Verdi's "Requiem":
    ua-cam.com/video/YuZFn2pjvWQ/v-deo.html.

  • @composer318
    @composer318 3 роки тому +2

    12:28

  • @gabrielfrota4190
    @gabrielfrota4190 7 років тому +1

    O coro é realmente jovem. Soa como se fosse música de Mozart.

  • @HelgaMoro
    @HelgaMoro 2 роки тому

    I wonder how these performances are profitable when musicians and singers almost outnumber listeners (it seems).

  • @hammerfall321
    @hammerfall321 2 роки тому

    Good concert, but the vibrato of the bass guy (?) was a bit too much, and it was persistent.
    I mean he's got a powerfull voice, but he always conceals it ib behind the vibrato.
    I dont know, I'm a string player and I love vibrato, but when it's not used always.

  • @jessicacleveland2908
    @jessicacleveland2908 6 років тому +1

    40:56 Little bunny foo-foo hopping through the forest...

  • @composer318
    @composer318 3 роки тому +1

    38:40

  • @muradtedoradze2000
    @muradtedoradze2000 4 роки тому

    5:00 😍

  • @composer318
    @composer318 3 роки тому

    1:01:48

    • @shirleyrombough8173
      @shirleyrombough8173 3 роки тому

      1:22:04 also. That gorgeous high note. I had total confidence this marvelous singer would do it.

    • @shirleyrombough8173
      @shirleyrombough8173 3 роки тому

      She got the last few notes. Brava.

  • @labemolmineur
    @labemolmineur 6 років тому +6

    The only disappointing element in this phenomenal performance to me was the choir. Maybe it's their age, but the choice of a youth choir with an otherwise very powerful cast dimmed something in this work. I missed complete mental involvement with the words, emotional intensity, a larger sense of phrase, and occasionally rhythmic mastery (the libera me fugue was only "almost there", feeling like it were about to fall in places). I needed their singing to match Tamara Wilson's almost devastating commitment to this piece, but it didn't.
    On another note, I wish subtitles were always kept, even when the words are repeated. When one reads the translation, one doesn't necessarily remember which sung word corresponded to which written word. And removing the translation of repeated phrases takes away the urgency of repetition, of saying something so many times for an important musical and artistic purpose.
    Thank you so much for the upload.

  • @raczpeter9606
    @raczpeter9606 5 років тому

    kicsit össze lett csapva

  • @boaz1353
    @boaz1353 4 роки тому +3

    1:16:02 libera me fugue

  • @Merlocampini
    @Merlocampini 4 роки тому +2

    18:12 What troubled the mezzo?

  • @kjohnlu
    @kjohnlu 2 роки тому

    A little strenuous at last.

  • @marianzaleski1387
    @marianzaleski1387 4 роки тому

    Reqiem Mozarta jest lotne i naturalnie piękne natomiast Verdi musiał się namęczyć żeby stworzyć swoje dzieło.

  • @Mostafaalbutmah
    @Mostafaalbutmah 7 років тому +1

    Pes11

  • @60bui
    @60bui 7 років тому +5

    Verdi??????Where is??

  • @gwalaus
    @gwalaus 7 років тому +5

    Can't get my head around Verdi at all. I know it's a great work and all, but the inevitable operatic-ness of the whole thing grates on my nerves endlessly. Why should the sacred text for the Holy Mass of the dead become a vehicle for showing off some opera singers' prowess? I can get around the Mozart requiem, but nothing later. That said, the bass soloist would make a great Sarastro. To the commenter who doesn't like the percussion, remember these are period instruments, and will sound different to modern orchestral drums.

    • @TedinNY
      @TedinNY 7 років тому +10

      Interesting comment.
      Your attitude towards this work is one that has been raised ever since the Requiem's first performance.
      While most listeners agree it's a monumental work of genius, the question remains: is it a religious work or merely an operatic working of the ancient Latin Requiem Mass?
      Well, Verdi is famous for trying to get the operatic overtones diminished in performance, insisting repeatedly against bombast. He is quoted as saying "“One must not sing … as one sings an opera, and therefore, the coloriti [a singer’s phrasing, etc.] that may be good for the theater will not be to my liking at all."
      But to the operatically inclined, the temptations are usually just too irresistible - especially when the work is showcased as "merely" a gigantic masterpiece of human musical expression rather than an attempt to memorialize a particular person or event, etc.
      Music scholar Charles Osborne wrote, “Never before had there
      been a Requiem Mass like this: agnostic, dramatic, popular.”
      Sometimes, though, the religious aspects can trump the operatic.
      Such was the case when, in the US, the Requiem was given in sight of the fallen World Trade Center, on the first anniversary of 9/11 on 9/12/2002 in memory of those lost, The whole tone of the work changed completely. Unfortunately it is difficult to find a recording of the occasion. There is only a small fragment of the dress rehearsal on UA-cam. posted in memoriam of Salvatore Licitra, the tenor who sang on that occasion.
      What you can find, though, is a segment of the Requiem performed at Princess Diana's funeral. I urge you to listen to that (if you have not already done so) and reply here as to whether that changes your view at all.
      On another note, I heard Robinson's Sarastro at the MET. It was indeed awesome.

    • @JimmyTheTurtle892
      @JimmyTheTurtle892 6 років тому +2

      gwalaus I can redirect you to a video essay by this youtube channel 'inside the score'. I came to appreciate this piece even more than before and gave me some new insights in it. It might just do so for you too. If I were you, i'd at least give it a try.

    • @JimmyTheTurtle892
      @JimmyTheTurtle892 6 років тому +1

      gwalaus ua-cam.com/video/-C8Jy4yyGuM/v-deo.html
      This is the link if you're interested

    • @pega17pl
      @pega17pl 5 років тому +2

      What's difference of Catholic Mass to (costume) opera?