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Overwatch is unplayable if anywhere short of 270fps....... says no one..........
Imagine if people bought a new car and everyday you have to jump start it because the battery never holds charge and you just say it’s okay that’s just how cars are😂
Sounds like a GMC Hummer reference 🤣🤣💀💀
It’s just a inconvenience 😅 it’s normal.
poor elon
and then defend it and try to attempt to say its good lmao. then recommend your broken pos to other people trying to claim its great lol. gotta love fanboys ya know.
Toyota hybrids say hello. That's their attitude to it too. They'll be bankrupt in a decade at this rate.
I would love a video on Cyberpunks dips based on different areas of the map. Would be interesting to see how different hardware handle different performance spots on that map
seems to occur on nvidia too
but yeah idk what that shit is would like to know aswell
What a clown, dude is paid for and bought 💯
It's the AMD fine wine effect you hear so much about... you just don't get it bro. It's the ugly caterpillar transformation into a beautiful butterfly thing, eventually one day I'm going to wake up and have a good card, then the journey will have been worth it. Usually new cards drop by then and you just repeat this process. You just wouldn't get it but the 68 other people that have an AMD gpu understand the journey. Then we rejoice when we see in retrospective content years down the road that our long past R9 390 did indeed out last the GTX 970. Validation Successful. AMD is GOD.
Yeah nah, I'm not waiting 3+ years for my product to be usable.
Same applies to the people upgrading to the 5800X3D etc. That's great and all ,you're back up to mid-high end for gaming but you also spent 3-6 years with a subpar system.. All to save a few hundred dollars.
facetious and sarcastic are things you don't seem to understand @@griffin1366
LOL, All for just €1000
MW3 Season 2 new maps are filled with massive frame drops. I set my frame cap at 238 to keep G-Sync "on" and the last 2 Nvidia drivers haven't corrected the problem. Sometimes my frame rate drops to 140 FPS. Most of the time, even with my high settings. I can keep 260 to 270 FPS on my 3440x1440 Corsair Flex monitor. It's annoying AF!
CPU-Z tnx299 (i9-13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB/4x16GB DDR 6800)
No one cares, these snowflakes only react if AMD is bad :D
😂 the "100 dudes" 💀
Been running a 7800x3d and 7900xt for a couple months. Not had any issues in esports games at 2k, including others like CoD. One issue I had was running dual screens with different res and refresh rates caused UA-cam to stutter. Changed the secondary monitors cable from DP to HDMI and the issue was gone. No issues since
can you test pubg pls, i had 2 rx 6600 and had a lot of microstutters everytime a enemie was nearby, i sold it and buy an rtx 3060 ti and problem solve. but i'm kinda wanna go back cause the prices of the amd gpus are cheaper than nvidia where i live.
7800X3D + XTX nitro+, 0 issues with 3 monitors on different resolutions (1440p @240hz, 1080p and 1080p vertical both @60hz); W11.
I had 3 driver crashes in PUBG over some 60-70h of gameplay, although Discord crashed along with it so I'm assuming it could be something overlay-related. Should still not happen.
what headphone is this?
For those of you who are defending AMD and saying it's a setting/settings - I tried every setting, from basic out of the box and advance settings to dozens of iterations of feature sets on and off. I'm sure you're right it's a setting somewhere or a combo of settings but I went through it thoroughly. I shouldn't have to see dips and do an easter egg hunt finding the setting, especially if it's a brand new 6950XT paired with a 7950X. Adrenaline has a better UI than GeForce but simply, it doesn't work. Even with Nvidia you don't even need Geforce, just the Nvidia Control Panel and Afterburner and you're all set. Luckily I already had an Nvidia gpu and used this 6950XT as more of play and test gpu before I sold it because it was practically free new in the box. Maybe they fixed the issue but over the years AMD just doesn't work as a plug and play. There's always a caveat with them. Honestly how do people forget that if you bought a 6900XT in 2020 you couldn't play warzone for nearly 2 years because of the dips. How does that go forgotten lol. @framechasers is 100% right. Never again. Intel 900k's/700k's and Nvidia is the way. I was foolish to try AMD even if it was for fun lol
I guess i just got the nvidia 7900xtx??? How is it that i dont have this problems before??? AMD has issues but this guy is reacting like a kardashian. 😂
@@terencelim3860 where are you getting nvidia 7900xtx from ? Lol
When are yo going to test network latency? 10/100/1000 lan gaming vs 2.5bgs vs wifi 6? I'd really like to see the latency numbers on this bench test. unrelated to this video. just a request.
I feel you man i buy my 7900xtx after almost 20 years of gaming with nvidia, i send that shit back 3 days after, unplayable and you see all these craptuber "amd best fps per dollar", F that it's not money saving if i lose 2 hours a day trying to fix it. I spend 1.3k for this wtf you should at least be able to run it with default setting.
Got yourself a sub man, don't lose integrity.
not a amd fanboy so much as I really didn't like the way Nvidia nerfed functions for the 3000 series because of crypto mining. It reminded me of the time i bought a iphone and Apple restricted how many devices i could sync my music to in iTunes. I lost my shit and vowed to never ever buy apple anything again. I went AMD literally only for that reason If the intel cards where a little stronger I would have tried them out. gaming is one thing nerfing a product so It cant make you as much money is fighting words to me. regardless of your feeling about crypto that's a direct attack on your wallet.
The funny thing is Nvidia were claiming it's a hardware limiter for the whole time. And then - poof. A driver update did the job :) people defend that company btw
@@valentin3186 yeah that's not suprizing people defend apple to. From the prospective of avg customers in the market, the scalping that resulted definitely turned people off. I don't do any mining my self but have thought about it. Regardless the idea of hardware limits is just shady as hell. Similar to how some car companies are trying charge subscriptions for features built into the car. As long as people keep going along with these practices it will just contiue and get worse. It's a free market and people can support what ever they want. If I have buy a not as good product then I can live with that.
I would like to see Intel for CPU & GPU in the future. Sure, 4080 is great, but I don't like
slimy jennsen and his prices.
This is a known issue with 24.1.1, the previous drivers didn't have this problem.
and who is this problem, not my I payed for GPU.
@@dexter8962i just kept the older drivers and it worked
@@dexter8962 4070 ti super and others had a massive stuttering, and dip issue on allot of games, took Nvidia months to address it and fix it.
It's just cause it's AMD, people love attacking.
I have the 4070 ti super, and so far have had more issues than the 7900 xt did.
only a clown takes one instance and says "THE PRODUCT IS BAD!"
Stock prices are up and it's not because tech tubers promoting 7800xt, nor any consumer grade hardware
Their cpus.
Bro this ain't unique to AMD
I've been on nVidia for 670, 970, 2080ti, 3080ti & 4090.
I've had to do so much finnesing in the drivers, NVCP & NvidiaProfileInspector
Whether is G-sync, v-sync AA etc. Sometimes games will just randomly stutter.
I had to unplug all my USB devices to play elden ring without stutter, but that wasn't a GPU thing
Did you fully tweak your bios ?
@@zihechen3111 Hense why I asked him about his bios settings lol
its cleared up now. all through Nvidia stuff. Bios issues were a thing in my 4790k build ten years ago, but i don't remember how i resolved that@@silfrido1768
i've had issues trying to mix ram kits when i was less knowledgeable in PC hardware. Now everything is good bios, ram, nVidia settings (thank you DDU, NVcleaninstall & nVidia Profile Inspector).@@zihechen3111
GTX 280, GTX 680, RTX 2080, never had an issue and never had to to tweak anything in NVIDIA profileinspector. You were likely making things worse.
my reality is that i came from a aorus 1080ti xtreme and decided to go to the merc 310 xfx black 7900xtx and I can tell you I was shocked! my old gpu was 32-34c idle. now with no fan im running at 26c at idle with a 21c home temp. then i increased fan speed to 50 percent. 19c idle and 34-35c in game temp with rdr2 at max setting with everything turned on! smooth as butter! remember I am a long time nvidia fan. first card was a mx250... only issues ive had so far was the amd software to start but deleted and a fresh install fixed that! will update as I play honestly... edit: old cards fan was consistently at 90-100 to give me that idle temp....
Did you have it overclocked ???
this happens to me with NVidia to with some games ... it just not AMD i love both brands.. but im thinking it windows 10/11 bugs and windows defender blocking drivers since looking at logs it like blocking drivers thin things shutter and get weird
It absolutely is windows in most cases
Lunch time and more of the best tech dude on YT aye my kinda day also commenter gamer bros hop on Helldivers 2 fucken great when the severs work 😅
Haha. I'm on all AMD hardware and I love these videos. It is indeed weird how youtube is so obviously skewed towards AMD. I want to see all viewpoints before buying so I'm happy Jufus is out there voicing his concerns.
Thought I clicked on a user benchmark video there was so much crying about AMD.
He just hates AMD for some reason I've never had any the problems he mentioned ?
I need at least 360 fps (on a 144 Hz monitor) to be able to play, anything below 250 fps slows me down and I can't even be at 10% of my capabilities!! I need more soooo much more!! 😂😂😂
ikr kewk if i saw somethting just full of his shit to the brim lol how fucking sad
@@iDeparture I understand that he is interested in top quality and nothing below that. And I understand when 120 fps drops to 90 for no reason it's frustrating. I play Rocket League myself and the game itself often drops to 1 fps when loading something. A game that on integrated graphics will run in 100+ fps, people and on RTX 4090 slows down and drops fps dramatically because that is the game engine. Feel anything below 144 fps is easily.
But now watching from 320 to 240 is a drop that I bet even pro gamers can't feel. You only know with the fps counter. That's why I'm talking, since my limiter in the game is at 240, and I'm fine up to 144.
His channel, his opinion, his money. But we, the audience, are also there so that our opinion can be heard as well :D
@@jovanpejic Yeah 100% even the way he said it sounded like vad acting. if hes idk what the refresh rate of his monitor is wouldn't surprised me if it was under 144/165hz but even on a 240 plus say you did wouldn't feel like an ACTUAL dip were you freeze and stutter winch hes screen looked fine you see when those gun fight or in rocket league dribble stopping or a perfect aerial about to set up you duo or score that causes you ton loose that fluctuation hes was waiting for and if he on 144hz he couldn't have felt it. fps counter they lowered and it WS right when either an at went and the two team's stated fighting, The game is well optimized and that video where he either doesn't know how to oc ram on a 7800x3d i know enough to know 6400 MT/s most 7800x3d cant run that or even 6200 flck was probably unstable as well and is argue the sub's weren't even turned long story Long forced 7800x3d drop from 250+ fps to under 100 and the 14900k was peaking slightly lower but Dipper bad too but not as bad as the and cpu but waaaaay worse than the "dip" in ow2 like can't compare it, and slamming the mouse In way you Wouldn't in game then not only not bitching unplayable but didn't even comment again it was forced so if you don't know the vid he made im referring to then ill just say it wasn't an ACTUAL 1/0.1 low. He's straight up either dumb or full of shit and is trying to get money claiming all these other tec tubers and his not bias or a straight liar which like they are. if so hes just worse at it.lol wasted a paragraph on him waste of firing synapse between Brain cells rip. and he has no interest in quality he's only interested in money.
I have 2 7900XTX Nitro, one paired with 5800X3D and the other with 7800X3D , one plugged into a 165Hz monitor and the other to a 240Hz , both 1440p and both cards work great , you just looking for issues where there isn't one
A driver issue would affect everybody who had an AMD card. I've had my 7900 XT for one year. Rock solid.
me too
This guy just really hates AMD...
thats cool i dont hate intel amd or nvidia I just can't afford a 4090 thats the only card that apeals to me with nvidias offering i bought a 7900xt cause i could afford it was cheaper then the 4070 ti non super at the time. I know nvidia has the upperhand in rt performance but atm no gpu can pull over 120 fps native at 4k @@AshtonCoolman
hopefully 5000 series will actually be a generational leap like the 1080 the best gpu of the decade.
I used to despise amd bulldozer days vega days I hope they spend all tha ai money on gpu rnd
Dude, i wont be surprised when Intel Arc surpasses AMD cards in couple of years lol
User skill issue.
My frames are fine, and I've used the 7900XTX for about a year now. I came from a 2070 Super, and I had more issues with Nvidia than I have AMD so far.
This isn't even me being a fan boy, this is factual and objective.
Same here! I came from a 2080Ti and at start 2080Ti was so fvcking bad so much blue sccreans and etc etc. Now im with 7900XTX. And yea these is not perfect GPU but oh my boi!!! 1000% better than my old 2080Ti with million problems... I just know one thing just use what ever you want and what works for you. That`s it!
@@sokantnevesti603The guy seems to be suffering from the butthurt syndrome for some unknown reason.....
@@GrandoSilverI’m thinking about the same upgrade.
Same. Not sure were this dude gets some of this stuff from
no, you did't have more issues with Nvidia.
You're full of shit.
I have to say I agree with you 💯. My all AMD build keeps crashing on Valorent and Hell let Loose and mostly all UE games while my 2 friends PCs that I built that are equivalent in power to mine with Intel and NVidia parts don't do that at all.
Also done with AMD.
I have a 5700x and 7900gre and those games never crash on my pc. I think you have different problems.
I play hell let loose religiously not a single crash 4 hour plus sessions
I have 7700x with 6900xt. Have EXPO on with stock settings on GPU.
@@wesleyvandeurzen7199 My chipset and drivers are always up to date.
Have to say that my bios is almost 1 year old so I just updated it yesterday.
I will play those same games to see if anything is fixed.
@@worldwar208 My 2 friends PCs are not up to date in bios and drivers and they get zero issues.
The thing about AMD VS Intel and NVidia is that the latter does not need you to constantly have the latest bios and drivers installed to work properly as Jufus has shown us for OW2.
there was also a hitching problem last year with COD. You needed to reduce Vram max util from 100% to 85%
have not had a great time with the rx 7600 either. many minor issues with stutters. strange behaviour like not rendering the sun or some lighting objects in starfield. massive drops in performance in some games like control with smart access memory after the game has been running for awhile. the worst has been dxgi error device hangs/crashes while playing baulders gate 3 with buddies when that came out. the card is usable but having to troubleshoot these issues has not been ideal
Honestly, I have never had any issue with the AMD RX Drivers, just always use WHQL drivers. Man, I've been using a 7900 XT, 7900XTX, and a 7800XT and did not have any issues for the 1st two cards in the past year.
I agree they sometimes there is shit that happens around launch however they tend to age better than NVIDIA IMHO.
You get what you pay for lol. No one's problem.but your own if you're poor.
@@johnmajewski4192 Grow up.
Same here, I've been running a 5900X and 6800XT since launch and never had any issues. AMDs drivers have aged beautifully for the last gen stuff, and is one of the main reasons why I've never bothered with anything from Intel/AMD/Nvidia from this gen, I already get everything that I need from my setup so what's the point in wasting money for something that I'm not even looking for.
It's like when I went for my last car and was looking for something practical to fit the dogs in the boot, the salesman kept pushing me to go for the bigger engine. I turned round to him and said I'm not going to be speeding with dogs in the back, he said I could always have a bit of fun speeding with it when I leave the dogs at home. I started walking away and said "mate, if you find anything on this forecourt that will be faster than my ZX14R bike, I'll buy it".
People need to stop chasing things they don't need, if your rig meets your requirements just enjoy it and save your money. Simple.
@@petrolhead0387 Wise words mate very wise words.
For me, and a good amount of people in AMD forums, RX 7000 have been nothing but problems, especially in 24.X drivers and going forward.
Recording and making clips makes the driver completely crash and need a hard reset, no matter which adrenaline version im using, didn't happen on my 6800, 580 nor 460, MPO still isn't fixed (they have fixed it twice, in 23.2.1 and 24.2.1, and it's a lie in both cases), power draw was fixed for a single driver patch, updating 23.12.2 to 24.1.1 and forward makes idle go back up to 80W, and i don't even want to mention new game releases like HD2, which as many problems it has, it's a horrible experience using RDNA3 vs any other gpu architecture, RDNA2 included.
People don't trash amd drivers for no reason, but because it works in your system it doesn't mean it's fine, remember the sample size of nvidia vs amd is like jupiter vs the moon, and for that size comparison, amd is pretty high in driver related issues, it's just not as bad as in 2019, but out of 10 driver problems on AMD, 8 come from RDNA3 .
It's the sole reason i switched to a 4070TIS, and so far every single one of my problems is gone.
So im good because i dont play any esports? Genuine, its unplayable for competitive is what i gather from fps stability? New to pcs sorry
Hey dude!! im still on a 11900KF and i got the 6700XT for cheap... sometimes sttuters like crazy on Warzone 3 and it crashes on the new map Fortune's keep but only on that map wich is kinda weird.... is that game or gpu related? i tried drivers and reinstall the game already, nothing seems to fix the problem
please just get an nvidia one next time you wont regret it
@@zaydonathen Every other game works just fine man... I've had both Nvidia and AMD before and if its a good deal im just buying it... But this issue i'm having idk..
@@AngelLopez-zy8tu i think if its warzone that could be a game thing ive only heard bad things about that one but im definitely not qualified to talk about it lol
it is not the game. many people including me have no issues on the ch5 map(nvidia+intel). @opez-zy8tu
Secret is AMD screwed up the 6xxx drivers the same month the 7800xt came out. Just so UA-camrs could beat the 6xxx series in stats. I was getting 16ms frame time on the September 2023 drivers.
gamers nexus found the 7800xt lost to the 6800xt in a lot of games at launch.
I made the unfortunate decision some time ago to go the amd route for my cpu. I have a 3090 and a 7950x. I mostly play warzone and although my fps are fairly high, the game feels and looks horrible. It looks nothing close to smooth. Very stuttery and blurry no matter what I do. I’ve tried EVERYTHING! At this point I’m just thinking of switching back to Intel. What board/cpu/ram should I go with to support my 3090? I want REAL frames and consistency!
Talk about reaching for issues...
Well, it is a first world problem. lol
I decided to give 7900XTX a try when I was buying a new GPU for my machine. My unit had the faulty vapor chamber and overheated. It might have had some other issues also as there was instability, but I returned it without too much troubleshooting after I found the vapor chamber issue. Bought 4070 Ti instead. I would have liked more VRAM (especially now as the AI models are more readily available and I dabble on that stuff also), but at that moment it was either the 4070 Ti or just spending more money on the GPU than I wanted to spend.
@@RomvnlyPlays I don't really care about "who is to blame". It was over 1k EUR costing card, it was AMD's halo product, it was pure garbage. AMD can work with their partners to ensure quality of their halo products if they care (apparently they do not). Anyhow vapor chambers were widely flawed in reference models.
@@RomvnlyPlays This was an AMD issue! Most of their reference models had that issue mainly on the 7900XTX less on the 7900XT. They had to recall thousands of cards...there have been articles...and that was AMD own design, not boardpartners! But boardpartner with the reference model suffered the same issue! Only different models were okay if you can call anything AMD okay...
So did the drivers fix it or not? It might not have 😂
Was wondering the same thing as well.
It did not, you can see full VOD in the discord
say whatever you want, I've just switched from nvidia to 7900xtx and it does the job and I have no issues whatsoever. Mainly using it for sim racing, frames are locked and 0 issues. Also did some benchmarking in other games and benchmarks, no issues, great results...
Also, its 2024, move on to windows 11 for start!
I own 3090, 3070, 6800XT, I had crash issue fans 100% with 3090 for months till EVGA release Vbios update but I not have any problem with 6800XT I still use this card in HTPC for play indie game media on 4k TV. My friends have 7800XT, 7900XT and 7900XTX we play game for hours together and they never have issue but my 3090 blue screen crash my system in GTAV Online with all driver updated everything updated. When I play on HTPC I not have crash issue in GTAV with 6800XT, both Nvidia and AMD have issue from time to time but I cannot say one is worse than other. Only issue I have with Radeon was driver uninstall by itself but this not issue with Radeon driver this Windows auto update issue keep turning it on after every update but now it fixed.
I try 12900k for my power user use case, I test Linux distro in VM do compile while render and run game at same time so I use 7950x for this use all cores, 12900k not able do this due to only have 8 P core which very bad for VM and power user so I buy 7950x which serve my purpose. I play game on 1440p 144hz monitor cap 140FPS I see not reason to allow FPS to exceed refresh rate of monitor. With 7950x I can run Linux VM compile, render 4k video, watch video and play game 1440p 140FPS on 3x different monitors with other software being used in background all same time, 12900k can't do this.
7950x power user processor, if you gamer buy 7800x3D for $300 cheaper in my country. This AMDip you speak of I not see neither do friends complain this to me, we all use AMD processor but I also own Intel processor which useless for me. There not reason to buy 14900k or any Intel processor not even for server when you can pair ECC with old Ryzen processor for Truenas or build server like I have 1950x Threadripepr server which I will replace with 3950x soon with 64gb ECC for Truenas with Ubuntu Docker and Jellyfin. Even EPYC take much server market share from Intel because Intel option perform worse use more power and offer less cores. AMD processor good in fact best choice for power user and for gamer not need more than 7800x3D with B650 board and cheaper DDR5 Ram because ram tuning not net significant performance gain and 7800x3D ram tune not matter.
You not tech tuber you rage baiter who feed off negativity, Gamers Nexus, L!T, HUB they are techtubers which I put more trust in to help me make purchase decision. I catch you podcast with vape guy, I find you obtuse, prideful, arrogant and condescending. I not trust you results and yes I am calling you liar, stop feed on negativity and maybe you will gain respect instead of be disrespectful to people.
Jufes is incompetent
i own a 6800 xt and i have zero problems...if you notice this guy is clearly hater or sponsor from NVIDIA xD hehe...
Man I just Made A Rig With 7800x 3d and 7900xtx like 3 months ago and after watching you i feel like i should sell it asap.
I thought the AMD dip was with CPU's. I haven't been happy with Nvidia lately. Mostly their pricing is messed up but their warranty isn't great either. I guess I should blame Gigabyte.
they dont tho. i have both @@Denbot.Gaming
No it's infinitely more of a thing on the GPUs lmao
looks like I ditched AMD card just in time, been hearing nothing but terrible things about these new drivers lol. (though to be fair drivers worked well for me for the 2 years I had my AMD gpu). Still on a 5900x, but next build will be Intel unless something drastically changes. also after seeing the quality difference between DLSS and FSR with my own eyes I'm never going back.
Amd was supposed to be for the Timmy that couldn't afford the i7+ and 80+ card now its too expensive for what it is
My 7800x3d is good
Not really. Intel chips without the extra cache aren't far behind lol. Wait till Intel releases their own version of 3dvcache lol. Amd is screwed
@@johnmajewski4192 Bot comment
@@johnmajewski4192 and amd is going to stop and watch while intel progresses this ain't 4 core i7 days anymore baby companies just improve non stop.
bought 7900xtx returned it 1 week later because i could not seem to get idle power draw fixed static 100watt pull whilst my 4090 does 16 ish running 3 1440p monitors one at 360hz others 144. best decision to stay on 4090. and yeah 7900xtx has alot of other issues. mine was hitting 110 celsius on junction and 90 on core full fan speed insane
I am sure this was way early last year. There were reference card issues and they have been fixed.
Majority of XTX users do not use reference cards and AMD does not undercut its own partners like how nvidia does by trying to make a buck from their founders edition cards.
Making outdated comments like this is reckless and irresponsible. Update yourself.
this bug is couple moths fixed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
bro i had this in september last year and had the absolute worst time with my pc. i dont care what others think ima just share my expierience@@sheikhtashdeedahmed2740
It begs the question : Why did you even bother to goet a 7900XTX if you already had a 4090 ?
@@lamikal2515 I don't think he bothered at all. Probably got a 7900xtx rented from someone to make this vid.
i have dips too 14700K + rtx 4080 gamerock OC in (Resident evil 4, Insurgency Sandstorm) . And its all up to date with fresh windows install, chipset drivers, bios
its not only AMD
What does that have to do with OW2?
@@johnmajewski4192 i just wanna say also intel + Nvidia combox dips in games, why are you annyoing me ?
@@cuongtang9539 yeah but that is not what he is on about... All games will dip in FPS but this issues ( which is now fixed ) was that it would dip constantly when nothing would happen and it was a literal bug for the drivers that was known about. It would dip so low that it would feel like a giant stutter. Even going from 360 to 270 in an instant will manifest as a stutter. We all get little drops here and there but this wasnt your standard drop. As for those games I haven't had an issue myself with RE4 having stutters like that at all, dont play sandstorm at all as I dont like it
@@lilpain1997 maybe its while shaders have to fill the cache ? I dont know, its not like crazy, but defenitly i see some massive stutters sometimes.
Hey jufes whats your thought on 5700X3D on buget build? For warzone
dogshit get 12700k or used 10900k for budget.
if you already have a b450 or x470 system then yes building one in 2024 NO
Don't due it.
an i5 12600k will dunk on a 11900k and since these are dead platforms now MBs will be way more than z690/z790 equivalent and a used 10900k will be more than a NEW 12600k and the same or more than a new 12700k wtf why do that? and ddr5 sk hynix adie kts are sub 100 bucks what you recommend him is "hey go spend more money and get less preformace" and gaming 5700x3d at micro center is 200 bucks rn in NY which also would out perform those in gaming and be cheaper lmao. Monkeys man not even at the zoo
I haven’t tested it myself so I don’t know
So glad my 7900xtx was DOA with the cooler issue so I don't have to deal with this shit. My 4080 going strong over a year and I don't bother with updates for months on end because it always just works 😂.
@Denbot.Gaming there's like a 2% difference in rasterization lol. Fanboys like the pretend the 7900xtx is close to the 4090. It's not. Also it doesn't beat the 4090 in anything. In comes close in COD, on average, paired with an AMD CPU and not counting 1% lows lol.
I think this is way overblown... seriously.
I think you made a good point on the Techonomics stream recently. A lot of what you are finding is at the extremes. Which is what your channel caters for, the top 0.1%, those that need every ounce of fps. If the majority of gamers are not in this position you are right AMD doesn’t really have to do anything. Now, on the flip side, if the top 0.1% of gamers are all using Intel and Nvidia, this message will slowly filter down and could over time have a negative impact on AMD. Then at that point they may need to respond.
i have a rx 6800 and it is unstable AF (on some driver versions) undervolting ? gpu says a) no(uv doesnt work in amd adrenalin). b) does work with more power tool, but again unstable. -> overvolting? Unstable. vram oc -> unstable... i had a rx 5700 before that -> oc ? no problem -> uv ? no problem -> fucking bios flash to the xt model and oc the crap out of it? no problem ... i dont know what they are doing with their drivers but there like: sometimes mabye good, sometimes mabye shit... and the "smoll" driver version fixes 90 % of that. i just use the basic driver version and the more clock tool to set clocks and stuff no problem at all. it could be that the rx 5700 was from asus and the rx 6800 from gigabyte. Asus uses probabely better on board components and better chips. I got the rx 6800 for around 550€ when the rest of the 6800 costed around 1200 so i think it was worth it.
I can't talk for AMD GPUs as I haven't owned one yet. But I do have owned Intel CPUs and NVIDIA GPUs ONLY all the time from 2014 and all the way up to February 2023 when I bought me a completely new computer with an 'AMD Ryzen 7 7700' CPU this time and a NVIDIA GPU again (RTX 3060 Ti) (couldn't wait until the 4060 Ti came out before buying a new computer).
Because I'm a gamer (mostly) and edit and encodes videos sometimes as well and uses a Mini-ITX case (like I have done the last 4 years), I have to use a CPU and GPU that doesn't need a nuclear reactor to run and isn't as hot as a volcano. I had to go for the 'AMD Ryzen 7 7700' CPU this time and continue to use a NVIDIA GPU.
The experience so far with the AMD CPU have been extremely positive for the year I have been using this AMD CPU. I haven't seen or experienced a single hiccup or issue with it so far. In fact, it has been as good as the Intel CPUs I have had through the years. So, nothing to complain about there.
As for the choice of continuing to use a NVIDIA GPU, there are several features the NVIDIA GPUs have that AMD doesn't have that favours NVIDIA for me. I'm going to list some of the more important features for me under here.
- CUDA-cores (as I do video editing & encoding). It's much more available in video editing programs or other programs that takes advantage of the CUDA-cores. AMD have something similar I think, but it's nowhere close to be as much effective and available as CUDA is.
- NVIDIA RTX Video (Super Resolution & HDR in web browsers and video players).
- NVIDIA RTX TrueHDR in games (SDR to HDR conversion feature via AI and by using the Tensor-cores on a newer NVIDIA GPU).
- Power usage. It's important for me as I'm using a Mini-ITX case.
- Better 'Ray Tracing' performance. It's just a small added bonus to have this sometimes.
So, with this, I'm not favouring AMD over Intel here so far when it comes to stability as I have had very good experience with both brands now. It's only in power draw and temperatures I'm favouring AMD CPUs. However, when it comes to GPUs, then NVIDIA is hands down the best choice here.
I get the AMD dips on a 6950XT when Adrenaline is installed and running. I tried different drivers and still nothing. Once I uninstalled Adrenaline but kept the gpu drivers all the dips went away. Ridonkulous!!!!
thanks! I tried every setting, from basic out of the box and advance settings to dozens of iterations of feature sets on and off. I'm sure you're right it's a setting somewhere or a combo of settings but I went through it thoroughly. I shouldn't have to see dips and do an easter egg hunt finding the setting, especially if it's a brand new 6950XT paired with a 7950X. Adrenaline has a better UI than GeForce but simply, it doesn't work. Even with Nvidia you don't even need Geforce, just the Nvidia Control Panel and Afterburner and you're all set. Luckily I already had an Nvidia gpu and used this 6950XT as more of play and test gpu before I sold it because it was practically free new in the box. Maybe they fixed the issue but over the years AMD just doesn't work as a plug and play. There's always a caveat with them. Honestly how do people forget that if you bought a 6900XT in 2020 you couldn't play warzone for nearly 2 years because of the dips. How does that go forgotten lol. @framechasers is 100% right. Never again. Intel 900k's/700k's and Nvidia is the way. I was foolish to try AMD even if it was for fun lol@@Denbot.Gaming
,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a 🐂💩
@JesusisLordSEEK hahaha
@@Denbot.Gaming these dips and crashes I was getting were on AM boards using AMD chips on AMD gpus
@Denbot.Gaming I owned a 5800 gpu, a 6600XT and a 6950xt and I went through the AM4 cpus quite a bit. The only thing from a gaming perspective AMD can hang its hat on is the 5800x3d which I thought was very impressive for gaming but it came out at a time when AM4 was dunzo
I enjoy the content and the content. I do have a 7900xt 7800x3d build ive enjoyed it no issues but i played locked at 200fps on my 180hz monitor. I know u r a 360 n up guy lol
I have a RX 7900 XTX and had 0 issues including undervolting and over clocking, you’re being clearly paid by nvidia or some partnership
Back in the day, as a poor gamer kid, I worked hard to buy myself my first gaming computer.
It was a AMD Athlon and some AMD GPU. It died in a year.
After that I have never touched another AMD product. I work in IT and spend easily 5000K or more on my builds. Nvidia and Intel have never let me down. Right now my main gripe is with Asus after spending 1K on the Z690 Formula and getting screwed with the VRM heatsink and the Nic card issues.
You spend 500k on pc builds? Sorry but you shot yourself in the foot with that bs. 😂😂
Would love a good review of the 4080 super! Been looking hard at this gpu or just might go to a 4090
I have one it’s basically a beefed up cheaper 4080
bought a 6900xtx it is the biggest pos ive ever used i cant wait to get rid of this thing
Same bro . Cant wait to switch to 4080 later this year when prices go lil bit lower..
7900XTX? you mean?
@@onomatopoeia162003 yeah typo 7900xtx
Didn't know Overwatch had issues. I have been using past couple of weeks my old 3060 12gb latest Nvidia driver just works. Had issues too but it was with WoW surprisingly, Only DX11 October (any pre December driver) worked 7800XT and 7900XTX would run without crashing. Forums some people had success playing WoW in Linux. I haven't done that since Shadowlands, last xpac. I had been eyeing the 4080S due to the driver issues and I should have just gotten a 4090 when they were reasonable.
he is AMDone
Genuinely curious if turning the frame counter off would help
no, on a 360hz monitor going from a cap of 360 to 270 instantly feels huge as it manifests as a stutter. Its like dropping from 120 to 80 instantly, you will feel it. I am not going to say AMD are awful like this fanboy is but they do usually have the most issues with drivers even today. I should know I have two systems and my 6800xt rig has more issues than my 3080 rig and its always driver related. That said never had issues using their CPUs, this guy is just a fanboy of intel and Nvidia.
I have more problems with my 4080 than my 7900 xtx tbh, I've never had any fps drops on the 7900 xtx in the year that I've had it. The only problem I've had with the xtx was the stupid dual monitor power draw bug, which was fixed months ago, finally. Aside from that, I've had more issues with my 4080, it randomly ocp trips my pc, despite running on a new atx 3.0 1600w titanium psu, it crashes randomly in every game I've played since buying it. And will even crash mid render sometimes. Checked every bit of hardware in and software on my pc, I even tried the card in 4 different pc's. I've redone windows at least 3 times 10 and 11, I even replaced everything in my pc through warranty, even the card, twice. After all that and 20 years of pc knowledge mixed in with a der8auer vid, I came to the conclusions it has to be the 12pin power connector. I'd prefer fps drops tbh, a 10-hour render shouldn't take 3 days because my pc keeps randomly crashing.
bf2042 coudnt play it while having 6900xt, hdr problems, dual screen problems, endless warzone problems and i mean directx errors, midgaming reboots etc.... change it for a rtx 4080 , zero problems
I watch this video while having 7900 XTX. Never had a problem with it, so far. I use 5800x3D and the Resizable bar enabled.
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i have 5800x3d and its shit stutter !!7900xt shit !!! ill wait intel 15 or 16 gen and + nvidia 5000s+ and take it
Same dude playing overwatch evry day on the same setup as yours my 7900xtx runs at 40C temps on 200fps locked.
Amd is literally trash bro
Are you 12?@@lanegeisewite1436
oh boy , with all my respect I'm not an AMD fan boy , actually my current system is Intel and Nvidia but you cant kill a product to every people that run AMD just because you or other people have a bad experience or driver issue .I Know people that run RX 7900XTX and never experience any issue so is a 50/50 , dont be like that , how can you run a You Tube PC Tech channel and just running a single brand🤔
He invest in PC build company sell only Intel and Nvidia, this marketing for sell more system. This guy is not truthful in the slightest.
The beta drivers have weird numbers unlike their normal drivers, also the 24.2.1 driver crashed out 7 minutes into Helldivers 2 gameplay. I dunno man, it is what it is at this point, both the game and AMD have share the blame in this issue which I thought was strange because the PS5 is on AMD hardware. Apparently it’s RX 7000 woes. Grabbed a 2080 Ti for $200 the other night and it’s rock solid at 57-65 FPS on 1440P ultra
The 6000 series was still the best AMD release they have done.
They actually have AFMF built into the drivers. You have to have adrenaline to shut it down. But even if you cut it off, there seems to be some part of the driver that still does frame gen.
I tried the newest drivers with Afterburner, there is no way to turn AFMF off, I was getting 300FPS 1080p in RDR2, but I needed a prescription for glasses to continue. The colors were washed out, and when you move the mouse at all it dips to 200FPS.
I installed Adrenaline and still the dips are still almost uncontrollable. Raising the sight to aim, even causes a microstutter of 6 frames everytime you raise the gun...
what a mess
AMD in a nutshell...and still they claim it's not like that. How they miss Adrenalin if they go to Nvidia. Just lyers! I mean it's just always like that with AMD. Strange shit going on. Nvidia is 99,99% stable without issues. AMD half of the time. You have to troubleshoot and things like that. I had my last AMD product as well. Never again.
I don't like to pay more to Nvidia but i understand why we have to!
@@karlos1060 Installing 1.24 latest official drivers for the 6xxx, adds about 20% CPU usage. Then you add the AFMF and FSR2 in RDR2 and a 13700K is up to 60% usage at times.
Install 12.23 drivers without adrenaline and usage goes down to 9-19% in game.
I turned everything in Adrenaline 1.24, off for AFMF, and turned FSR2 off in RDR2 and the drivers still use frame gen. You are simply toggling AFMF from 100% and 25% not turning it off.
95 to102FPS Averages with 12.23 drivers is way easier to stomach than 100FPS drops every time you move or an animal moves.
Or 15 AI in the game simply start sliding across the street, instead of walking. They just moonwalk without moving their feet.
@@kramnull8962 AFMF is horrible! If you don't see the mega stutter and weird frames in between you need to visit an eyedokter. This AMD feature is more then horrible. Just like FSR2 🤮 my god how bad that is! People like you i don't take serious! AMD and upscaling is just the worst combination possible. The only exception to that is Avatar with FSR3 that is acceptable. AMD drivers is like going from 1 to another nightmare!
Since i use Nvidia again no issues anymore all gone like snow melting before the sun. But i encourage you to keep buying it. I would not want Nvidia to get twice as expensive because we don't have AMD fansboys that are blind buying all their garbage.
but everyone says it's the software not amd...
drivers are the main reason why I'm not even considering to use AMD GPU.
Homeboy Dufus gotta sell them 14900k apex encore 4090 bundles with $600 consults. I've owned and built all kinds of systems over the years and what I can tell you is this is largely hyperbolized. Not convinced by this guy playing dumb when his 7800x3d crashes basic programs to desktop like he isn't smart enough to fix it in like 5 minutes or less.
I think it's Activision blizzard issue if they don't want or told not to work with amd until that game is going to be replaced. Remember Nvidia gpp that nvidia tried to do with third-party manufacturers and game developers? Where Nvidia tries to be Apple back then and now with the cheap unnecessary periphery connector that melts any Nvidia card that has it. Just go and look for 4090 and 4080 melted connector repair video from electronics repairers. A slight temporary inconvenience of a driver or playing Russianrulet with rtx 4090 that costs an arm and a leg. I remember when nvidia didn't do any Dutch door action with gamers. When they use to give us gamers a cheaper price and charged the commercial sector more. Instead of now double dipping and giping gamers of ram and cores that they should of had at launch.
At the end of the day, we, as customers, should not be beta testing AMD's science project in RDNA III. AMD used chiplets to expand profits via better yields from 5nm wafers for the GCD instead of one big monolithic die.
AMD has some STAUNCH patriots 😂
I have been noticing the dip on my 6900xt. Going back to NVidia. My wife has rtx 3070 ti and no problems. I have all kinds of problems. Tired of it myself.
Sadly new gen like undervolt an perform shit at stock settings. Got rid of my 7900xtx trash 1% lows with 100mhz lowest frequency Difference from peak at 15% power limit and sit on 350+ fps on warzone.
It's the reason i sold my RX7900XT as well. Getting driver time-out during playing in World of Warcraft! Bought a 4080 Super and perfect now paired with a I7-14700KF works glorious now!
Glad you have a perfect system now. Had a similar situation where I could only run certain drivers (pre-December) with DX11 workaround on WoW with 7800XT and 7900XTX. My 3060 12gb is running WoW just fine on the latest Nvidia driver. I had been considering a 4080S just maybe I will sell off or try Linux on the the AMD cards. Haven't WoWed on Linux since Shadowlands though. It's something with the driver on Windows, don't really know what. Have a 12700KF and 12900KF, also thinking to upgrade to a 14700KF in the future possibly. Troubleshooting that AMD issue has been annoying though. It would crash a lot in DX12, so DX11 was the only option working.
@@dianaalyssa8726 I know the 7000 series cards have had the WOW bug with DX12. In 11 you get way less performance. In Keys but for sure raids that is anoying like hell.
I did play it for a while in DX11 and then switched back to DX12 as they said it was fixed. I was wrong. Some days fine. Last time i tried it crashed like 5 times in 30 mins and letting me die as many times in a M+ key because i could not move my char due to a freeze and black screen for 10 to 15 seconds.
That did it. I tried Alan wake 2 where you can't turn of FSR or DLSS eventhough using native res and my dog...walking leafs on the ground just turned like to every angle while walking...that was beyond anoying. And the list goes on and on. Every time they release something new like what was it hyper-x i believe for example my Horizon zero dawn was going crazy like skipping a lot of frames and it hurted my eyes. The only thing with AMD that kind of worked is using no upscaling or anything. And then you still have to have luck.
It's mindblowing how people are fooled with all UA-cam talking so good about AMD while it is trash! Their drivers are horrible.
My 4080S now does not get over 75c hotspot and about 60 to 65c in WOW while with my 7900XT my hotspot was about 95 to 100 c with core up to 70c so a huge difference between core and hotspot. The cards in both cases were the Asus Tuf Gaming. Both on silent bios.
But even in normal bios the AMD card still ran hot even with fans turned on high in my case (Corsair Crystal X570) now with my 4080 S it is silent as i have never had before! And stayes cool. So no more AMD. Every time i bought their BS thinking all the review sites can't be wrong? Well they all lie.
Jayz2cents also went back to Intel (due to editing purpose he says and some weird anomalies, wich he did not specify but for sure are crashes and so on)
AMD simply the best ❤
Still rocking your donated 6900XT?
Not so fast Jufes!!
I found one thing my 6900xt can do but my new 4080 cannot..
The 6900xt supported my 2017 Samsung Freesync early implementation.
But AMD can keep their Freesync.
No more AMD for me.
Very unfortunately that major issues are not only AMD-related because that would be very nice. It seems to me that the whole industry just gone haywire. The news about crashing 13000/14000 series CPUs at STOCK settings got me very riled up, because I have core i9 13900KF. Now every time when some bullsh*t buggy lazy underdeveloped piece of sh*t game crashes (and it happens about once a month or so) I wonder if it's something wrong with my CPU. I of course ran some RAM and CPU stability tests and they found no errors, but I have absolutely no time or desire to cook the CPU at 100°C for days to find some hidden piece of sh*t instability that shouldn't be there at stock setting in the frist place
Don’t understand it I’m using 7900xtx with the 7950x…. Works fine in Fortnite, overwatch, valorant, and so on (with max settings 4K) like cmon just gotta optimize your setting inside of the adrenaline application
yeah, come on. No big deal.
just gotta use DDU and go into safe mode cycle drivers, set fps lImit, set min frequency 300 lower than max, undervolt slightly for stability, and go into settings and fix it.
Or...just pop in a 4070 ti super and it all just works
Amd fanboy spreading misinformation again
@@geeesejeeeze6055 AMD GPUS suck. I tried them. They're so glitchy. So unstable.
With emulators, with everything. No thanks.
@@geeesejeeeze6055 as if bro, I like nvidia cards just I like the price of the amd ones better. I’m just saying from my experience that MY amd card isn’t doing what his was
Whine is what you do best I guess
I'm so glad it not this serious for me
I gave up on AMD drivers a long time ago although modded drivers without the Radeon software works fine for me. And don't get me started on the chipset driver (if you have an amd cpu too) that at some point will f*** up your gpu driver for some reason
The 0.1% and 1% lows should show in benchmarks though. it's not like E sport gamers have special ability to notice stuff, countless reviewers use this metric and noone show any kind of dip, but I get it that in some rare instances like the OW2 drivers, that's not debatable. overall, less issues with Intel and Nvidia I'm sure though, especially at launch, if possible I'd say wait a few months before getting AMD hardware, especially CPU and if you can afford it and want less issues, get Nvidia card.. the problem also is, mid range nvidia sux, so have to put 800$ for a card mini (might aswell get the 4080s at this point) to get 16gb vram, so yea, alot of people use AMD and will keep using AMD
As for the warzone dips, I think this needs more investigating, it could be an engine thing, I'm surprise the 7800x3d or 5800x3d gets these though..
One thing for sure is I have a 5600x and 2080 16gb 3600c16 and warzone runs like SHIT on my PC, it's unplayable, yet I play Apex all the time without issues, even if it's not stable frames it's so much more playable, Warzone engine kind of sux I feel like, maybe the problem is not AMD hardware is where I'm getting at..but the shitty engine more optimized for Intel somehow.
Intel + nvidia just works. Sad but true, except Asus mobos, nothing but faulty ram slots.
Yep... That 24.1.1 driver was the single biggest piece of shit I've ever had the displeasure of using.
Even the beta driver didn't fix the frame times and input lag.
The new 24.2.1 official driver has fixed my issues though.
My fucking god I cannot believe people when they say their AMD GPUs are working properly.
It's like you've gotta have a backlog of drivers from 2 years ago that worked for X game in Y situation just to get shit working.
So, so much copium in the comments.
You do you AMD'bros. As long as you are happy.
Literally, i stabilized the 8080mhz cl36 on 7800x3d yesterday, it passed anta extreme, occt, cruncher, everything. I turned computer off. Today after post nothing is working errors after 30s of test. I am tired with AMD...pretty anoying.
Got my 7900xtx for $600 so I have no choice really but to run it into the ground. Using 23.9.3 firmware. Too scared to update to 24.1.1. CSGO for the most part plays fines until the latest update. I can wait for a fix, but the only thing that makes me wish I went with NVidia is AI content creation.
I must be a lucky guy because I have a 12900k on a 7900 xtx and it works fine for me in 1440p...but I also have another rig with a 13700k and 4080...so im cool.
why 2 rigs if I may ask?
@vladsta3833 2017 bought a labtop...2021 bought a prebuilt before pandemic...10900k/3080, using labtop as second computer. Wanted to build my own...so bought 13700k/4080 and built another pc. Upgraded pre-built to second pc. 2nd pc got upgraded to 12900k/7900xtx and is used for smaller games/fps non ray raced titles. 1st pc used for larger games, raytraced titles. Alot of parts bought from Amazon used. Motherboard went out on 2nd pc...found a z790 Hero on Amazon for 269 instead of 600 bucks..so bought that. Found 7900xtx on Amazon for 777 bucks...so bought that. Amazon still sell z790 Hero boards for 300 bucks because none wants them because they can't do 8000mhz ram...I run 6400mhz so it doesn't matter to me. Lol
I got the 7900 xtx too. No issues here. I kinda think this dude is just anti-AMD.
@heavydee6795 one for raytracing and the other for playing lighter titles.
@@vladsta3833 one for raytracing and the other for playing lighter titles.
got a RX6800 Nitro after my 2080ti died for the 2nd time. Cost $330+ water block and its on par with a 4070 without RT. I only play OW2, and the only problem I've had is low GPU usage for a few seconds when 1st loading in, so I usually just go training range for a min before I queue
Intel and Nvidia have worked well for me for the last 20 years since I started. Never saw a reason to switch, though AMD has been tempting at times. I wasn't about to spend buckah bucks on gsync for example.
Raptor lake has been kicking my ass though, didnt help that i picked up a b760 tomahawk for it
I am pretty certain AMD has your picture posted in HR office and security entrance, to keep you off the premises.
LOL, funny, but I bet AMD don't even know who he is or care, to be honest.
Is it just RDNA? Had no issues with my Radeon VII of all things lmao
GCN is pretty goated honestly, lol
@FrameChasers surprisingly stable, although Alan Wake 2 is BROKEN due to no mesh shaders lmao. Give it a look if you're curious there's missing textures 🤣
Nvidia has had the same problems for about half a year... 4090 drivers are fucked
i do respect jufes, and he is right about so many things, I agree with him as both a AMD GPU&CPU and Intel&nvidia system owner.
AMD needs many tunings for low fps and some shit while intel need memory and cpu tunings,
but this channel looks like going to be hardware unboxed's intel version with more reaction and memes.
The only dip i see is you bud...
AMD to Jufes hey ,I have some dip in the kitchen try some (Jufes) I'm allergic to your dip it's not Organic........💀💀