Are you using the WRONG Microphone? Dynamic vs. Condensor mics DEMO
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The age old debate of Dynamic mics vs. Condensor mics isn't new, but this is first time you'll hear someone tell you something pertinent to you recording in your own home.
In this video I discuss the nature in which each one of these microphones interacts with their environments.
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Simple and to the point, I'm glad I found this video. Biggest issue in my house is ambient noise and my room is untreated where I'll record my voice so just picked up a dynamic mic. I have a stereo condenser mic that I use to record live music and outdoor sounds and couldn't help but notice it picking up EVERYTHING inside and outside. Thanks for making this video.
A few years ago, I was looking for gear that could make my videos audio sound better. A friend of mine told me to buy a Tascam DR-05 digital recorder, and that it would make my audio have studio quality. Well, he was good intentioned, but SO wrong. The DR-05 mics are both condenser, and I don't have any treated room. Today, I recomend and warn people not to make the same mistake: if you're recording in a non-treated room, buy a dynamic mic. It'll do much better. I'm looking forward to get money to buy a 57 and a 58 in a near future!
And last, but no least: do a really good research before buying gear!
Cannot agree more. Lots of people who recommend condenser for acoustic/vocal performance fail to take into account the possibility you are in an untreated room. In an untreated room, it's not even a 'could go either way' thing, you GOTTA use dynamic over condenser. I have a Sm57 and Sm58 in an untreated room, and they pair nicely for stereo recordings in my bedroom studio, and I get very satisfying results. Especially for my style, dark tones and soft whisper like vocals.
@@d-rockanomaly9243 I also have the SM57 as well as the SM58, and I concur, they are true powerhouses in small spaces! I also enjoy having the actual waveform that isn't overly compressed out of the gate. For example, many podcasting or speech platforms will not actually want things compressed beyond around -18LUFS, so it doesn't make sense to compress the waveform beyond where you can even use it, plus all the added noise... I'm glad to find others who are into dynamic mics! 😁✌
@@formsaudio Yeah for sure. WIth condensers in my small space I had to roll off so much top end just to sound half decent and by that point it's muffled. Maybe I just don't know any better because I've never truly recorded in a professionally treated room, but I love how I can just play loud and close on the sm57/58 and not worry about clipping without touching the input signal, and I also love how responsive the recordings are to plugins. Oh and another plus I must have dropped or knocked the mouth of my 57 a hundred times and it just shrugs it off.
People, since you probably have some knowledge about mics, I'd like to ask you one thing. I'd like to make recordings in an untreated room. Condenser mics provide a lot of quality but catch the reverb from the room. Dynamic mics sound somewhat thin compared to condensers but reject the room reverb nicely. I want to find an excellent balance between the sound richness and rejection capabilities. People always mention two mics to achieve this: SM7B and EV RE20. I'm currently inclined towards EV RE20 as it seems that this mic sounds richer. What would you advise me to achieve that nice balance that I mentioned above?
Yeah if you don't have a vocal booth or a treated room you have to get extremely creative to get good sound from a condenser mic. It is doable though. One option is to just get a huge box big enough to stand in and line it with foam. Another option (one I'm thinking of doing) is to just build a booth. You good do it relatively cheap if you're crafty enough and have access to lots of scrap wood. Gotta do what you gotta do when you don't have the funds. The good thing about that is sometimes you get some extremely good idea. Limitation breeds creativity.
this guy is totally right. I use condenser mics often for vocals, but on the rare occasion, I have a vocalist that seems phasey in the mix. or is just way to loud. and so loud that even the room treatment isn't working. so I use my SM7B for those guys.
what do u mean phasey?
Is the phasey sound due to the high end in the mic and more noticable through compression? If so I've had this problem with my vocals and drum overheads. I recently added a room mic to my drums and that remedied the problem by smoothing out the high end (killed lots of washy brittle high end). I'm wondering if just using two vocal mics with different characteristics would even out the frequency response of vocal recordings.
I want to buy a mic to record my singing. I have a tenor-mezzo singing range, so I’m normally a bit louder while singing. I’m not really a fan of the deep tones that the dynamic mic gives, but if it is better I will get it. I have been looking at the Blue Snowball mic, do you think that would be ok for me?
@@yourlocaltheatrekid900 People with deep voice are louder in the mix. Well, they're actually louder than people with higher pitched voice since their voice occupy more freq. Our ears are just more reactive to the high pitched ringing sound that people with high singing voice makes when they sing(I'm a tenor myself by the way so I know first hand). You'll probably be better off with a condenser if your room would allow you to use it comfortably.
Great video! I was one of the people who forced myself to use a condenser mic for almost every thing. A few months back I started experimenting with my sm58 and sm57 for acoustic guitar/vocals. I'm so much more happy with the quality of the dynamic mics for those tracks.
I was a noobie and I got Rode NT1, trying to record in an untreated room (renting one). Then, I borrowed the condenser to a friend, so I was left out with my old shure sm58 when I wanted to record some ideas - I was blown away on how much easier is it to get better sounding vocals with dynamic mic that way. I guess I probably will record whole album with shure now until I get better treatment in the room. :)
@@kamilchosta5526 rlly?
@@stopmotionproductions4859 Hey, I'm a bad singer so less details are better in my case. I had a proper female vocalist over in my home and tried different mics. The mics were placed next to cloth closet and surrounded by blankets. The best was nt1, and then rode m2, Shure sm58 was fine but lacked definition in highs. So I would not buy Shure sm58 if you are a professional vocalist. For live use the Shure sm58 should be great.
@@stopmotionproductions4859 btw. It's subjective and don't be afraid to try different mics
Many talking about this. Not so many demonstrating. Thanks for creating a helpful demo!
You’re very welcome! I’m glad I could help.
Lewin , you are so right about the Dynamic mics . Spending $1000's on a condenser mic and recording in untreated room will cause more problems lol . I used Heil PR 20 (Dynamic) on a lot of recordings and they turned out nice .
Wow this is the best explanation of this topic that I've come across. I've been fretting about getting a condenser mic but I'm gonna just stick with dynamics for now. This really clarifies so much for me and makes the mic buying process so much simpler. Thank you!
Bianca Bell I’m so glad you liked the video! Please please please check out some others. I’ve been working hard here!
Nice video Lewin!
I would also add that I think dynamic microphones are very useful when recording a vocalist who is also playing another acoustic instrument. For instance, when I play piano, I have problems using with my condenser microphone because it picks up unwanted mechanical noises coming from the piano. I either have to take advantage of the cardioid pattern of the microphone by angling it upward or sing really close to the microphone and lower the gain. The trade off is that I have to do a lot of work in post for the vocal track to not sound boomy, because the placement of the microphone picks up more of my chest voice. Alternatively, I can easily set-up a dynamic microphone to minimize those sounds.
The cons of using a dynamic is that it just takes a lot more gain, which can lead to more noise in the recording unless you're working with stellar preamps. I typically use a microphone activator (like the Cloudlifter CL-1) for my dynamic, so I don't have to max-out my preamps. I also find that the tone of dynamic microphones are much darker than many dynamics, which could be a problem I guess depending on the genre of music.
Anyway, that's my two cents. Thanks again for making awesome videos.
Nice explanation on an overlooked concept for home recording enthusiasts like myself. I should consider revisiting my dynamic mic.
Great comparison! I find the biggest difference is the frequency response. The condensor has more high end, but it will also pick up more horrible ess and nasal sound, room reflection (usualy the polar pattern picks up a little behind the mic) and the sensitivity of the capsule will overload much easier. The sm57 can handle lots of volume and has great rear rejection, it's not overly bright and picks up good mids. Supposedly you can put tape around the vents of the sm57 and it will act like an omnidirectional mic. There's lots of cheaper dynamic mics that can be used for vocals, but the sm57 has got to be the most rugged. I'm also interested in hearing a comparison with a ribbon mic.
I appreciate you doing this all in one take. Great video
Greetings from Chile! I've been wanting to buy the right mic to record in my livingroom. I live in an apartment dowtown Santiago city, so i can hear a lot of street noise. I work as a filmmaker, and my sound recording colleagues adviced me to get a dynamic mic, but a wanted to be double sure. This was exactly what i was looking for. Thanks dude!
Brilliant demo on the different types of microphones on UA-cam. Thank you.
I like how yesterday I was asking about mics and today there's a new video which says "some people just don't comprehend the differences between mics" haha!
Ditto! :-)
Excellent demo - Exactly the type of comparison I needed to hear.
Great video!!!!
I was really really eager to buy condenser mic and after watching video and the reality of living area I dropped the idea to buy any condenser mic.
Many many thanks for saving my money.
People say you don't have to have hall, but later put hall in their recording... I love the hall that my mic captures and I put also hall on it.. (Guitar rec)
I don't really understand your question.... but for beatboxing and singing I would say use a good old Shure SM58.
Thanks for the clarification. Was a bit confused previously..
Have a Zingyou BM-8000 condenser mic and a Frisby FA-7910M dynamic mic. I experience exactly the same kind of performance when I listen to your mics. Do love and want the CAD E100. The sensitivity of condenser mics and the ambient noise where I'm at makes that unproductive. Low sensitivity dynamic mic working better in noisy environment.
Great. Was looking at condenser, will get dynamic now. Great video. Thanks!
I have to do this choice right now. Thank you for the video, it's really useful.
the 57 sounds amazing on your voice!
Thank you for an honest and knowledgeable review of the two microphones. I am sure many people are not aware of the teaching you have given. A very fine learning video. Thanks again.
While the SM57 does a better job at rejection here, I'm not sure it's really as simple as this. The e100 while nominally having a narrower polar pattern, possibly has a wider pickup at certain frequencies (I don't know for sure because there is no multifrequency pattern reading available). Small diaphragms supposedly have more consistent polar pattern. Also the mics have very different frequency responses, which probably changes how it picks up the RT60 at certain frequencies.
I have an SM57, practically brand new hooked up to a Scarlett 2i2 interface with a Fethead for dynamics in between the mic and a Mogami XLR cable (the best in the biz). With this setup, I still have to turn the gain up to 12:00 just to hear myself, and I get RF interference coupled with the mic’s self noise as well. And the signal is still pretty weak even from 5.5 inches away.
Dope! Been recording with a Rode NT1A forever, family member loaned me a Sennheiser e835.
How's the Sennheiser working for you?
@@yzastamaria it's grittier and takes getting used to, I'm so used to the bright sound of the Rode. It's a different beast, I was able to stand up and move around recording a verse with the Senn, and no background noise was picked up, I think it helped with the performance. Still deciding if its right for my voice.
This advice is very true and I could not recommend it more for people starting out in their bedroom. My SM57 sounds better than my U87 in my home studio.
Great demonstration!👏👏👏
very very usefull demonstration and i thought that conseder mics was for reduce reverb.thanks for this video a lot!!And a question.for booming dialogue between two persons which has the less reverb and is more quite?dynamic or cardiod?Because i am between rode ntg 2 and rode nt1
Awesome video! Any tips for room treatment on a budget?
Hey Lewin quick question. I don’t have a treated room so I’m gonna start recording vocals with an sm57 bc my condenser mic just sounds so weird bc of the room I’m in. I watched an old video of yours where you talk about how to perform to a mic when recording vox. Pulling away for louder singing and getting closer for quieter parts. In that video you were working with a condenser mic, do the same principles apply with a sm57?
GREAT question! Yes that technique still applies to a dynamic microphone. Basically that move is supposed to help create an evenly recorded signal, plus not distort the mic on super loud vocal notes.
@@GaragebandandBeyond thank you!
I definitely hear the difference. I would be interested to hear the difference between the two if you were to move back even further.
I wonder how you were able to get so much feedback / reverb with the SM57 ? I would have expected it to be way less to be fair! It almost sounds like a condenser!
Excellent video ... very well delivered ...good voice and nice pleasant personality ...keep it up
Thanks for the nice explanation Buddy.
Query here - I want to record Tabla in home conditions. Which mic should i go for? Dyn or Con? Please also provide the reason.
Dynamic
Because condenser is for vocals they are too sensitive and can cause a lot of clip and treble
I have a condenser mic and it gives a lot of washed out noise and feedback when in a mixer.
What is your condenser mic? What is your audio interface? Is your recording room properly treated?
Excellent and informative. No junk at all. I was going to buy a microphone.
really good demo, I have 2 sm57's and a groove tube condenser . love both but now I can hear the room treatment. thanks!!!
Thank U for comparison!I'm going for SM57 definitely over Blue Yeti
I've been doing it all wrong... thank you so much.
You can just aswell recomend Sm58 aswell for vocal use. Since 57 "poofing" much easier. I’ve read that 57 and 58 have the same hardware inside. But i’ve also heard difference in sound between those in same song repeated with both. The difference is to difficult to describe. And was so barely noticeable at some points. In those moments i gave the 57 the thumb up there. But vocally the 57 receive to easy those poofs(blasts). But they are warm, and when other mics suit some dongs better then the Shure becomes very warm, soft and absorbing to compare😊 it’s first after trying others and repeat with the Shure Sm58 i noticed it. I don’t like Shure less. It’s the mic yet which have sounded good through many genres of music and sing styles. To compare one mic is better then the Shure in some songs sounds again quite bad in other songs😊 strange that some artists don’t change mics for advantage for some songs😊
Great video! Nice real life comparison.
So what's your opinion between sm57 and sm58? I already have PGA58 mic. Is it worthy to buy any of those
Great video thanks! What is the difference is between SM57 and 58? Can the 58 be as versatile for recording instruments and vocals?
3 years late, but they are almost the same mic in terms of frequency response, but with a different grill and other small hardware differences. The 57 to me sounds a bit flatter, and the 58 has a bit more warmth. 57 for instruments, 58 for vocals, but you can switch it up they're quite similar.
Very practical, 10/10. Especially in these trying times!
Hi Lou, thanks so much for this video! I've personally been struggling with a dilemma - got a Blue Yeti Pro that really captures all the clarity and resonance in my voice compared to my Sennheiser e835, but the thing is SO BLOODY SENSITIVE to like, the rest of my house. Would you recommend I go for an SM7B or a less sensitive condenser (don't know which) with a Kaotica Eyeball?
Hey man, just get a SM57 and never look back!
Check out my latest video series out now, about recording. In the video about vocals I use a SM57 and it sounds great!
Thanks Lou, I'll check it out!
Will my Apogee One with 62dB of gain be good enough or do I need to upgrade to a Duet? Also, what do you think about the RE20? Saw Thom Yorke with it, sounds very clear. I presume I don't need the Eyeball with these dynamic mics?
(Sorry for the deluge of questions, you're awesome!)
Sorry I thought you were originally referring to the SM7B (been doing too much research...)
Hey there, what would be better for beatboxing and singing right into a mpc live stand alone with just a mic? I'm just trying to sing and beatbox straight into the stand alone, but it does not have phantom power, and I'm wondering if using a mic without it would do the job? And what mic could work? Any suggestions?
which mic is good for recording voice for animations?.. I currently have a condenser mic (samson meteor mic) and I never had a dynamic.
Condenser would be best for that. Pop filter, shock mount, and smooth compression most of all, a good preamp, makes all the difference.
I don't think the Meteor USB mic is what most would consider a "condenser mic". A usb mic be it a condenser or dynamic is not going to be ideal for doing voice overs. Certainly not if you are looking to make money at doing it. For youtube or something then ya, it will probably be fine. My guess would be stepping up to any microphone using a seperate pre amp/interface is going to sound better. Doesn't matter if its a dynamic or condenser. It will up your cost by quite a bit though. You are looking at probably 200 bucks or more by the time you get the mic, interface, cables and possibly a stand, mount and filter. Probably cheaper if you go with some cheap chinese thing. I saw a set up on Walmart that came with a stand, filter, interface and mic for like 50 bucks. It was using one of the BM 800's and a cheap interface. Not sure how great that would sound either, but I have heard they don't sound "bad". As for doing voice work it depends on where you are doing it. If its a sound treated room or studio with a very low noise floor then a decent condenser mic and pre amp is what I would go with. And I don't mean like a 500 dollar mic and expensive pre amp. Probably sub 100 dollar mic and a pre amp in the 100-150 dollar range should be fine. Might find a deal on one for less even. If it isn't a studio or treated room, like its just your den or a bedroom with bare walls and stuff with a fan, comptuer, furnace/aircon ect running or you can hear ambient noise from other rooms or outside then a dynamic mic might be the way to go. Then set up a noise gate and stuff to help filter out background noise. Condenser mics sound great and have lots of detail but they will pick up everything around them really well. That is one of their downsides.
Austrian Audio OC818 or Sennheiser MKH 50.
Hi
I have a choice between a Shure SM 58 or the EV ND96 for singling along as I play guitar using my amp. I am not recording professionally. I am very much new but which mic will work best for me? I don’t have a quiet studio just my bedroom and often there is noice and cars passing by etc. I can get either mic from my uncle but I don’t know which one is better other than one costs 100 more and comes with the stand that being the EV. Thanks. I hear though that the Shure is indestructible. So I’m torn.
Get the SM58! It is a GREAT microphone for the money and it will make your life a lot easier especially at the beginning of your recording career.
I bought a audio technica at2020usb plus and it is a great mic BUT i wonder why i cant really erase the sound echoes. I will try a dynamic one.
What do you think about this dynamic mic's ; Shure PGA58, Sennheiser E845, Rode M 1, Rode M 1, LEWITT MTP 250... They are in the same price renge (sennheiser being a bit expencier)
Thanks!
Hi, I have a question. I recently purchased an MXL 770 condenser. Not sure if I should return it or not, based on the same premise you mentioned. My only worry is the sm57 won't give enough detail/frequency range as the 770. Will it be noticeable to create a record? Is that wide range like 770 necessary to cover all the voice detail? My question is will you really notice a difference on the final mix once eq'd and so on?
How is MXL working? You have any record using that mic?
Should I still buy a SM57 even though I have an MXL 2006. Would it be cheaper to get some treatment for my condenser or ?
I often record vocals with two mics. A SM57 and a condensor mic. I'd like to blend the two with a ratio 70/30. Regards Lasse
@Ray Angels True, but if you colour each signal enough you can avoid phase issues that are inevitable with unmatched mics. Sometimes with some really good results. Not sure I'd double mic my vox with unmatched mics of different types though :p seems unnecessarily unorthodox.
Iam worried whether the dynamic mic can give a usable output on my audio interface 🤔(audiobox 96)
Thanks for this, I’ve been using my Rode NT1 condenser in a massive room with no treatment, hardly any furniture and wooden floor. It doesn’t get much worse than that for a condenser environment, I want to switch to a good broadcast headset instead of a large “in your face” mic, and I’m looking at the BPHS2 dynamic from Audio Technica, or the BPHS2C condenser and I’m now leaning towards the dynamic, it also has a hypercardioid pattern vs cardioid on the condenser version
Is there any way to tell the difference between dynamic and condenser by looking at them?
Is it possible to connect both dynamic and condenser mic at the same time?
I have an sm57 and focusrite scarlett solo. Should I get an at2020 i am doing pc gaming for youtube and streaming so i would be typing on a keyboard.
Wow this video was quite surprising. I'm currently using my kitchen as a studio & have usb condenser mic & it picks up backdround noise & can make me sound quite robotic so I make be best going for a dynamic mic & an audio interface.
Shell Zest I think you will be very impressed with how good a good old-fashioned SM 58 sounds!
@@GaragebandandBeyond Thanks for replying so quickly. My only problem is lack of funds. With the SM58, would I need an audio interface or is there cables where you can where you can convert from XLR to usb? I'm pretty new to recording equipment.
@@shellzest2568 I understand. The good news is that there are some great deals on Ebay.
I would say buy a used Focusrite 2i2 for around $50 and then a used SM58 for around $60-$80 depending on condition.
Monitors can be tough on the wallet, but buying used makes things a lot cheaper!
And no, there aren't any cables.
@@GaragebandandBeyond Thanks again for speedy reply. Will keep a look out. I have come across a site where I can buy equipment & pay monthly which would be handy.
ive literally just changed from my sm58 dynamic to tascam condensor plugged into my audio interface and switched to phantom and nothing coming out swapped mics again dynamic all good anything im missing mate
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if you want to start a podcast show (audio and video) and want to involve eating and drinking with at least 2-3 people, what would be the best audio set up? I want the audios to pick up while we're eating the food (sure, a bit of asmr if you will), as well as when we're just talking, obviously. Should I get one of these condenser or dynamic mics? Or a clip-on mic? or the overhead mic?
It depends on what kind of a room you're in really. If it's a space that doesn't have a ton of natural reverb, you should be able to get away with condenser microphones, which would be better at picking up eating sounds.
But if your room does have a lot of reverb in it, dynamic mics will work, the eaters just have to stay closer to the mic.
@@GaragebandandBeyond thank you for your quick response. Truly appreciate it. And to answer your questions. We will be in a warehouse space. And I'm thinking about laying down/hanging some blankets all around the room to sound proof it somewhat. My only concern is how close do we have to be to the dynamic mics for it to not lose signals? I do prefer the dynamic mics like Shure SMB7, specially since it's recommended for muti-people podcast. However, I'd like everyone to be able to eat as they would normally at a dining table without having to come close to the mic for it to pick up sound or even just to keep the lvls the same and just carry on a conversation, as couple of people would at a diner table. I'm not like the visuals I'm picturing, everyone having to hunch close to the mic and talk and having to get the mic out of the way to take a bite.
@@TheTrippleTKA Keep in mind that withe the SM7b you will good preamps to be able to get what you want. They are low gain mics. I have, use and love mine all the time.
In a warehouse blankets really won't do much at all, so yes dynamics would be a good choice. The SM58 is also a very good choice for podcasting and a lot less expensive and you won't need any external preamps. It depends on your budget, but they are good option, especially if you're getting started.
To answer your question about "how close to mic". If they are turned up properly and have enough gain, you can be about 1-2ft away sand still get the sounds you want.
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@@GaragebandandBeyond by blankets, I meant those thick mover's blanket to sound proof. I learned this trick from youtube. Let me know if you have any other tricks to sound proof the space better. But if I'm deciding on something like the SM7B, would I even need to sound proof? And with SM7B if you're saying it will be good and consistent with 1 feet of distance, then I think it should be okay. There should be enough space between the mouths and the mics to eat without having to readjust with every bite and resuming back to conversation
Also, I'll be pairing the SM7B with Tascam DP-006 recorder. Any thoughts on that?
heyyy do u have videos or advice to get the charlie puth/lauv (pop radio) kind of vocal mixing? i have an SM7B and my microphone sounds very “demo-y” instead of studio quality. im about to give up on this mic 😭 also there’s background hissing.
I don't have any videos on that particular style, but do have mixing vocals videos.
The SM7b is a FANTASTIC studio mic, my guess would be that you're not removing enough low end from it in your EQ and possible not adding the right effects.
Hissing can be caused by an imbalance in your signal to noise ratio, I do have videos on that as well! Don't give up on it, that is a great mic. I use it a lot in my Music Monday series.
GaragebandandBeyond thank you, can you linnk me to some of them? im pretty new to mixing so i don’t know every terminology lol. btw i use Logic Pro X and a Umc202hd interface if it matters. do you think i can get the “Sad Forever by Lauv” vocal quality?
cool sir, I do voice over I might get the cheap one you mentioned though I have a already, and a preamp.thanks for the video.
What microphone would work the best mounted on camera when recording live rock band music 10-12ft from the band?
The Rode Video Mic Go Directional Microphone is excellent
I would recommend looking at ribbon microphones for recording the room
Is this a good mic for singing? hi mike dynamic microphone dual impedance udm 102
Great comparison. Thank you.
Can a dynamic mic be used in a space that hasn't been treated? Or put another way, would treating the space improve the performance of a dynamic mic?
Yes to both. Of course treatment makes it even better, but dynamics are intended to work well at any place.
Would using a dynamic mic for my voice be enough to be able to record my plugged guitar separately ( at the same time) or would you still be able to hear the guitar through the voice track. I'm a noob and I'm trying to find a way to record my voice and guitar on different tracks, but I still want it to be a live performance and not having to record each one at a time.
Jose Miguel Benga get a Scarlett 2i2 and 2 mics to record at the same time, or any audio interface with 2 inputs. You’re gonna need 2 mics if you wanna do a live performance.
best explanation so far here in youtube. thanks !
+rets mej thank you!!
Question, im here in Japan right now, and im living in a dorm type apartment provided by my company and the wall here is so thin that you can almost here someone watching tv in the other room. Which mic is best with this type of scenario? I mean Japanese are very sensitive when in comes to noise specially in the evening and from what i understand so far with the dynamic microphone you need to speak much louder than the condenser one. Please help thanks.
A dynamic. Then raise the gain on your preamp/mixer/receiver/whatever you use so you won't have to speak so loud.
Very interesting buddy, thanks a lot !
I want to record on smule singing app..i record in my bedroom usually..and always a bit of noise coming from outside..should i go for dynamic or condenser mic..plz help
dynamic
It seems you don’t have a lot of noise control so a dynamic mic would be the way to go.
@@talia5046 thank u dear
I wonder how your smule singing record upgrade after using a new mic.
I have a karaoke microphone named Plafnio it was 105 dollars with tax and with a warranty it sounds like when I sing on it sounds like am talking when singing on it. I don't know if it's my voice singing through it or just the way the mic sounds if it is the way the mic sounds I don't want to keep it that long I will sell it and get a better one.
Thank you for this video!
Thanks Bro for this useful video :))
I need your advice to choose the best 3 mics from your opinion to perform in a very big open (Outdoor) event as follow:
1- one exceptional Mic for Public speaking
2- one Mic for Vocal Solo (Main Singer)
3- three Microphones for Choir vocal
Please it is an open place , thousands will attend , we search for high quality mics..
Thank you in advance
Condenser's sound way better but If you aren't in a controlled environment they are pretty Useless..
I had a Rode NT-USB Condenser and it was Picking up conversations From My neighbours 3 houses down.
And By the time you remove the background noise using software you realise you're better off with a dynamic microphone.
Nicely done!
Very helpful! Thanks
Thanks! Great video, really appreciate it I learned a lot :)
Is it not because the top-end response of a condenser is much better?
You are the best, thank you for this video!
Can someone tell me if you would have to soundproof less with a Dynamic. Like wouldn’t a dynamic mic sound much better in an untreated room?
Definitely yes. Recording in an un-treated space (that has excessive natural reverb) with a dynamic, will almost always make your mixing life easier.
Strongly disagree. Microphones don't "interact" with the room. Imagine a thermometer. It measures the temperature of the air around its heat sensor and tells us how warm it is. Does it interact with the room? No. Now take a microphone. It measures SPL in front of (or around) the diaphragm. Does it change anything in the room? No, not really.
Does the sound wave approach a condenser mic differently than a dynamic? No, absolutely not.
The difference is no myth.There is no "interaction". There is faster and more precise measurement (typically done by condenser mics) and there is slower and less accurate measurement (guess what).
This is no joke- I make a great living from my good ol' trustworthy SM57! Truly, an incredible piece of gear, and applicable for almost anything.
the only difference I'm noticing is that the E100 has a brighter frequency as in like more High treble than the sure sm57 sounds more dim
+juliano khoshaba trust me on this. The condenser is picking up a lot more of the room and the SM 57. Perhaps try listening to this video with a good set of headphones on and he will hear the difference more dramatically.
+GaragebandandBeyond … The condenser is picking up a lot more of the room than the SM 57...
I currently use the Blue Spark and it is WAY too harsh for my voice. I always end up EQing out the entire high end and it ruins the presence of the vocal. I do really loud always screaming rock vocals, so I stand a little farther back so I don’t overload the mic. Any ideas for a new mic that would work well for me?
Get a good old Shure SM58 or 57 especially f your screaming!
GaragebandandBeyond Hmm sounds good but I was looking for more of an industry standard vocal mic. Those seem to be geared more towards instruments and live performances. Any other ideas? Possibly the Shure SM7B or a Rhode?
Latitude 16 those are industry standards wayyy more than the sm7b and certainly the rhode. Don’t forget, the SM in SM58 stands for “studio microphone”.
And since you’re just getting started with the recording process, I’d say keep it simple until you have some more time under your belt.
If you watch my latest mixing series, that recording was fine with only 1, SM57.
Trust me in this!
GaragebandandBeyond Alright thank you for the advice! I appreciate your time a lot. I also do more singing-rap stuff rather than ‘screamo’ but I’m definitely a louder person. My style is similar to Trippie Redd’s song Love Scars. I will definitely look into these microphones. Once again, I appreciate it.
GaragebandandBeyond I’ve also been at this for 4 years so I want something more advanced.
wow...the amount of time and money that couldve been saved if i saw this video 6+ years ago...
Same bruh
Makes sense to me...thanks.
Isnt the SM57 for instruments?????? And isnt it the SM58 thats for vocals??
The SM 57 and 58 both use the same exact capsule. The only difference is the ball on the end. But Tom Petty used to sing into the SM 57 all the time
TheBlues Ine Go for the SM57. Better than the SM58 for vocals
Always use the condenser mic. If you have too much room reverb then drape a blanket over the vocalist and mic, or put the mic in the closet.
What?!?!?! NO NO NO. Dude Michael Jackson used the SM7b on the Thriller album so I would say that debunks your theory! Plus the SM58 has been on more albums than I can count.
SM7 is not a SM57 though. And MJ's voice was pretty unique. In your video even in this bad environment the condenser sound way better, especially the high frequencies
These recordings are flat though and not everyone wants a roomy vocal tone. Rappers for example.
And I am aware that the SM7b and the SM57 are not the same mic, the point is that they are dynamics.
sure makes sense for a rapper, as they shout into the mic...as did MJ.
you just can't say one is better than the other. Bruce Swedien probably uses more condensers than dynamics for other artists.
I get the point of your video, but Pradigy gave one solution for untreated home recordings with a condenser. Best is to have both types of mics and try them out.
I'm not saying that one is better than the other, I'm saying that people should consider the mic's they use depending on the room they are recording in.It's just one more thing to think about when trying to choose what mic is right for the situation.
I just did a test between a no name $60 condenser USB mic and a Shure SM7B with MixPre 3 II (with phantom power on & gain set to match the USB mic) in my untreated room with a noisy window AC unit 4ft away (the AC unit is positioned 90° off axis from both mics). The results: the cheap condenser mic picked up LESS background noise than the Shure. I’m amazed and a little bummed out by the result as I was hoping a dynamic would pick up way less background noise.
what about Rode VideoMic Pro+ ?
Thank you
Which is best condenser mic for non- treated room?
Subi Foa The entire point of this video is that you should probably just be using a dynamic microphone inside of your untreated space. So, to answer your question, there isn’t a condenser microphone that I recommend for recording inside of an untreated space.
Rode M2
If your using a condenser microphone I would recommend to get one of those kaotica eyeball things they also have the bootleg version to it’s called Alctron that helps cut down some of that reverb and then make a mini booth on your room and that can help to
Hey man, just wanna ask.. Is the condensor mic noisy? As in, the noises can be heard from people outside
Yes, they pickup more. That's sort of the point of the entire video!
Thx man :)
Just a quick easy tip, the Shure SM-58 is just a 57 with a grille.
Marcellius Tiongco Nope! The frequency response is different!
really wish you did this in a studio setting and not that horrible hallway.
+Idiot Stick most people are recording in un-treated rooms, NOT in studio settings, so in an effort to show the dramatic differences between the mics I chose a very "live" sounding space.
yeah but not hallways! lol. Just some feedback. thanks for the content.
Oh I pay very close attention, and I watched the video, he explains why he did what he did. he did it again in the comments. I wish he would have also gave us a more normal home setup as well so we could compare. I think it's a great video, just wish he had a more normal test as well as the exaggerated noisy hallway test. Meep - you're adding absolutely nothing to this comment thread except trying to look cool.
Back at ya buddy. It's a great video - I was just giving some feedback. I simply didn't want something so dramatic. Love the idea, love execution. Have any more wise things to say, Meep?