Funny story Joe, like you said, a few years back me and a buddy recorded a song. He sat down on the floor against my bureau with an SM 57 and just laid down scratch vocals. A few days later, we went to record his actual vocals in a semitreated space with a much more expensive microphone. We ran through it four or five times. I comped all the best takes and after getting very frustrated trying to mix it we just said screw it and used the scratch track. I don’t know if it was the microphone or the fact that he was more relaxed because it was just a scratch vocal, but I remember barely even having to EQ it or doing anything. It just sounded so good but we were reluctant to use initially because it was an SM 57 recorded while sitting on the floor against my bureau!
i honestly will go ahead and back you up on this one. i recently got my hands on a lauten audio clarion. its honestly just such a great microphone and i truely love it. however, still, in so many cases my sm57 just sounds better hahaha. that microphone is just... magic.
I saw a video recently with Trevor Horn and he says he uses SM57s for some vocals, often scratch vocals that end up on the released track because they have an intimacy that is lost by repeating subsequent takes on what is often a very expensive condenser.
Amen to that mix and match advice. We've found ourselves recording vocals in all sorts of rooms and if it's a smaller space that's particularly reflective I reach for the SM57 every time because it trims of the higher end and helps mute out some of the reflections in the room. Which my condenser is always going to pick up and ultimately means less time for me at mixing stage.
Glad I found this video. I been having trouble understanding the difference between the two kinds of mics cause most videos I seen would go into detail on the mechanics and wiring. Which is cool but I'm not an expert, so the ins and outs of a mic didn't translate well to me. This video helped explaining the _effect_ these mics can have on recorded audio, which was what I need.
Good video Joe..Sonic Diversity regarding microphones is the key.Some of the best vocals I recorded was on a SM58 . partly due to the singer possibly feeling more relaxed because it was a scratch vocal and I was going to rerecord them using my fancy Condenser but I think dynamic Mics are designed to be more performance mic .Hence performance is key. Also with plugins etc your track can sound amazing due to processes that we couldn't do back in the day
I recently went from a yeti blue mic to a sm7b through a Scarlett 2i2 4th gen interface to give it more gain. I’m having trouble getting the same sounds that I loved about the yeti. I feel like my voices richness is a little diminished and almost thin sounding. What did you find when figuring out your sound?
Great video!!! As a vocalist I totally resonate with this! Recorded v hard rock vocals recently on my tube condenser mic! The s's and t's were way too peaked !!! Switched to a dynamic, problem solved!!! Rounded off the sibilance! I now choose the mic depending on track, more soulful, softer vocal : condensor, ...hard rock: dynamic!! 😀
One side-effect of dynamic mics is that something they give you a "on the stage" feel. The SM58 and the 565SD are fantastic for this. The SM58 is used everywhere in live settings, and the 565SD is the mic of Woodstock.
Dynamic Mics are great paired with a Cloud Lifter or Klark Teknik in-line signal boosters. Which the booster also allows you to safely use phantom power with both dynamic microphones and ribbon microphones. The advantage is keeping a good signal to noise ratio because you don’t have to crank the preamp and introduce a lot of noise from the preamp
I appreciate you saying what you did about how being in front of a dynamic mic changes your performance. I sing into a Beta 58 at church several days a week, and when I try to record vocals on a condenser in my home studio, I feel like I have to baby it. It feels less authentic to me. Cool observation, thanks Joe!
I always thought that especially for home studios the condenser picked up lots of room noise, AC hum and at times depending on the vocalist and track too sensitive if that makes any sense. I tend to use dynamic and ribbon's a lot more. I do know one thing you can get a great vocal with a less expensive mic. You don't need a vintage Telefunken mic or U47.
Hi Joe......I think it was harder to make a true comparison, since on your condenser track, you are singing in a higher register. I have two "primarily vocal" mics......a RODE large diaphragm condenser mic, AND an OLD, but still works---haha, EV 757 dynamic mic, and was a real workhorse for me when I did music for money, now just in my home recording studio, and a few charity type events here and there for ministries. The 757 is a "very hot" mic. Oddly enough, I have not used it for my home recordings, BUT now I WILL! This is funny....when I've brought it along to any events where I preferred using it, I always told the Audio guy who might not be that familiar with that mic, from way back when!, to bring my channel/track fader all the way down, and then ease it on up, because its response is so much higher and louder than any Shure. Also a good reason to use a mixer board in recording, as I have an Allen & Heath ZED 60-10FX, to adjust some 4-band EQ upfront. GOOD video, as usual from you, Joe.
Nice work!❤️ Can u make video for mixing vocals, i mean professional songs get the vocals sooooo in the mix i tried, but i can't. I'm sidechaining but nothing happenes... It's sound like their vocals are sooo compressed and smacked, but at the same time it sounds like the vocals is part from the beat. I can't explain it. I hope u understand me😅
Thank you so much, really good video, I'm trying to learn abou this, based on your video, at this particular point with my untreated room it is better dynamic mic for me, I'm follinw you, I want to learn how to mix, master, make beats and record songs by my own.
Just get some a mic isolation shield and pair it with a kaotica ball. Mimimize the background noise. Turn off that loud ahh fan and put a battery in yo smoke detector. You’ll be Ight
oh one last thing I have been using an (MXL) R77 Classic Ribbon mainly bought it for trumpet but wow its great on acoustic guitar and vocals. Very surprised how good.
I'm really digging the new Earthworks SR117. It is a dynamic mic that sounds more like a condenser. Its really flat curve catches a ton of nuance without coloring the tone and sounds like you're there in the room. I also like it for live because it has great rejection. I usually consider Earthworks to be more of a measurement mic company, but I think this is a game changer.
I'm not disagreeing with the video, but for now I already purchased a condenser microphone and I don't wish to sing "properly" like in a studio. I'm not trying to replicate a studio quality when I'm just singing comfortably in my bed... But I think I prefer hands-free when I sing, I don't want to always hold the microphone all the time as it can block the blood flow around my bicep.
I think it is great your covering hardware. When you get into “subjective” opinions of the actual details, science, of the devices gets lost in the importance of the product and the relevance of the video wanes.
The story about Bono preferring a dynamic mic in studio recordings seems to be a bit of a myth. There are very few pictures of him singing in the studio (compared to pics of him singing in public), but in those pics he's generally using a condenser.
Saw a YT video today where everyone had a Rodes condenser mic. The thing was they had the tops pointed at the guest mouths. that cause me to cringe, while it works it was not the proper use and treating the condenser as a dynamic. cringe
sounds like dynamic microphones are pretty personal, it's not like you pass it around to your mates for a group singing. With everyone pressing their lips to the mic, it's not very covid friendly.
Hello Sir I want to record my poetry professionally at home. Which microphone should I buy? Dynamic or Condenser Mic? My room is not soundproof. Should I get a dynamic mic? If I record the same verse on both dynamic mic and condenser mic. After mixing and mastering, what would be the difference between the poetry recorded from both the mics? Will both be of the same quality? Will both have different quality? If the quality of condenser mic will be crisp. So can I make the poetry recorded with dynamic mic sound crisp? like condenser microphone? Please tell me such a mic and audio interface that I will not regret after buying. I am complete begginer. I am very confused. I have added money in 4 years with a lot of hard work. I don't want my money to be wasted.
Hello Sir. I want to record my poetry professionally at home. Which audio interface and microphone should I buy? Dynamic or Condenser Mic? My room is not soundproof. Should I get a dynamic mic? If I record the same verse on both dynamic mic and condenser mic. After mixing and mastering, what would be the difference between the poetry recorded from both the mics? Will both be of the same quality? Will both have different quality? If the quality of condenser mic will be crisp. So can I make the poetry recorded with dynamic mic sound crisp? like condenser microphone? I am very confused. I have added money in 4 years with a lot of hard work. I don't want my money to be wasted. Please tell me such a mic and audio interface that I will not regret after buying. I am complete begginer. I want professional quality. Like it is in the video 👇 ua-cam.com/users/shortspBJdvpQtNZA?feature=share
Funny story Joe, like you said, a few years back me and a buddy recorded a song. He sat down on the floor against my bureau with an SM 57 and just laid down scratch vocals. A few days later, we went to record his actual vocals in a semitreated space with a much more expensive microphone. We ran through it four or five times. I comped all the best takes and after getting very frustrated trying to mix it we just said screw it and used the scratch track. I don’t know if it was the microphone or the fact that he was more relaxed because it was just a scratch vocal, but I remember barely even having to EQ it or doing anything. It just sounded so good but we were reluctant to use initially because it was an SM 57 recorded while sitting on the floor against my bureau!
i honestly will go ahead and back you up on this one. i recently got my hands on a lauten audio clarion. its honestly just such a great microphone and i truely love it. however, still, in so many cases my sm57 just sounds better hahaha. that microphone is just... magic.
Wow finally someone who gets to the point and also is PRACTICAL with examples or real life things people overlook, incredible presentation.....
I saw a video recently with Trevor Horn and he says he uses SM57s for some vocals, often scratch vocals that end up on the released track because they have an intimacy that is lost by repeating subsequent takes on what is often a very expensive condenser.
I use a few different mics but I record all my vocals on a good old SM58. The thing is an unbreakable beast and sounds great.
Amen to that mix and match advice. We've found ourselves recording vocals in all sorts of rooms and if it's a smaller space that's particularly reflective I reach for the SM57 every time because it trims of the higher end and helps mute out some of the reflections in the room. Which my condenser is always going to pick up and ultimately means less time for me at mixing stage.
Love this podcast Joe!
Great advice, as always -- thanks Joe! Greetings from Dave in Fieldstone.
Glad I found this video. I been having trouble understanding the difference between the two kinds of mics cause most videos I seen would go into detail on the mechanics and wiring. Which is cool but I'm not an expert, so the ins and outs of a mic didn't translate well to me. This video helped explaining the _effect_ these mics can have on recorded audio, which was what I need.
Good video Joe..Sonic Diversity regarding microphones is the key.Some of the best vocals I recorded was on a SM58 . partly due to the singer possibly feeling more relaxed because it was a scratch vocal and I was going to rerecord them using my fancy Condenser but I think dynamic Mics are designed to be more performance mic .Hence performance is key. Also with plugins etc your track can sound amazing due to processes that we couldn't do back in the day
This is a very interesting explanation you are giving of the differences between how to use each type of microphones.
I love using the SM7b on vocals. It's a dynamic mic, but people are always blown away by how good it sounds.
I recently went from a yeti blue mic to a sm7b through a Scarlett 2i2 4th gen interface to give it more gain. I’m having trouble getting the same sounds that I loved about the yeti. I feel like my voices richness is a little diminished and almost thin sounding. What did you find when figuring out your sound?
I think the vibe thing matters a ton! If I want a recording to feel more live or intimate... like on an acoustic track... I like to use a dynamic mic.
Great video!!! As a vocalist I totally resonate with this! Recorded v hard rock vocals recently on my tube condenser mic! The s's and t's were way too peaked !!! Switched to a dynamic, problem solved!!! Rounded off the sibilance! I now choose the mic depending on track, more soulful, softer vocal : condensor, ...hard rock: dynamic!! 😀
Wow this was REAL!!! I'M OLD..... so this makes complete sense to me. I like the tactile feel of performing. It's relevant. Thank you
One side-effect of dynamic mics is that something they give you a "on the stage" feel. The SM58 and the 565SD are fantastic for this. The SM58 is used everywhere in live settings, and the 565SD is the mic of Woodstock.
Dynamic Mics are great paired with a Cloud Lifter or Klark Teknik in-line signal boosters. Which the booster also allows you to safely use phantom power with both dynamic microphones and ribbon microphones. The advantage is keeping a good signal to noise ratio because you don’t have to crank the preamp and introduce a lot of noise from the preamp
I appreciate you saying what you did about how being in front of a dynamic mic changes your performance. I sing into a Beta 58 at church several days a week, and when I try to record vocals on a condenser in my home studio, I feel like I have to baby it. It feels less authentic to me. Cool observation, thanks Joe!
Elvis Costello used a SM-57 for vocals on his first record done at home.
Good presentation - well done. .... and nice production values
Still my fave online teacher. Well done Joe.
I always thought that especially for home studios the condenser picked up lots of room noise, AC hum and at times depending on the vocalist and track too sensitive if that makes any sense. I tend to use dynamic and ribbon's a lot more. I do know one thing you can get a great vocal with a less expensive mic. You don't need a vintage Telefunken mic or U47.
Hi Joe......I think it was harder to make a true comparison, since on your condenser track, you are singing in a higher register. I have two "primarily vocal" mics......a RODE large diaphragm condenser mic, AND an OLD, but still works---haha, EV 757 dynamic mic, and was a real workhorse for me when I did music for money, now just in my home recording studio, and a few charity type events here and there for ministries. The 757 is a "very hot" mic. Oddly enough, I have not used it for my home recordings, BUT now I WILL! This is funny....when I've brought it along to any events where I preferred using it, I always told the Audio guy who might not be that familiar with that mic, from way back when!, to bring my channel/track fader all the way down, and then ease it on up, because its response is so much higher and louder than any Shure. Also a good reason to use a mixer board in recording, as I have an Allen & Heath ZED 60-10FX, to adjust some 4-band EQ upfront. GOOD video, as usual from you, Joe.
The Heil dynamic mics are awesome for vocals.
A condenser is great but I have a personal preference for an SM57 or an SM58
Thanks for sharing!!!
Nice work!❤️
Can u make video for mixing vocals, i mean professional songs get the vocals sooooo in the mix i tried, but i can't. I'm sidechaining but nothing happenes... It's sound like their vocals are sooo compressed and smacked, but at the same time it sounds like the vocals is part from the beat. I can't explain it. I hope u understand me😅
Thank you sir!! Godbless!! ❤❤❤ from philippines :)
Thank you so much, really good video, I'm trying to learn abou this, based on your video, at this particular point with my untreated room it is better dynamic mic for me, I'm follinw you, I want to learn how to mix, master, make beats and record songs by my own.
If Your Room Is Not Treated Always go With a Dynamic Mic Or you'll Regret😢😢😢I have to Record Under my Blankets In these Hot Weather😂😂😂😂I own A SE 2200
Just get some a mic isolation shield and pair it with a kaotica ball. Mimimize the background noise. Turn off that loud ahh fan and put a battery in yo smoke detector. You’ll be Ight
Thanks Joe!
I'm learning a lot from you, Thanks Joe
Thank you so very much!
oh one last thing I have been using an (MXL) R77 Classic Ribbon mainly bought it for trumpet but wow its great on acoustic guitar and vocals. Very surprised how good.
I bought ZOOM ZDM-1 is it fine for music style of rapping thank you for advice! good video
Thanks 🙏
I usually use my condenser but I'm working on a more gritty EP and am thinking about using a dynamic for the vocals.
Proper job my friend...
Also depends on your recording space.
I'm really digging the new Earthworks SR117. It is a dynamic mic that sounds more like a condenser. Its really flat curve catches a ton of nuance without coloring the tone and sounds like you're there in the room. I also like it for live because it has great rejection. I usually consider Earthworks to be more of a measurement mic company, but I think this is a game changer.
It is a condenser though
I think it’s a condenser.
I just checked the page...it is a condenser. I would link the page, but the last time I linked a company's (legit) URL, I got a spam warning.
Should I just use an audio interface alone to track my vocals or would it be better to have a outboard channel strip or something
You should have kept the same vocal tone to match the different when comparing the effects from the mic
Here is one, best ribbon for recording vocals and acoustic guitar at the same time? Thank you.
Good one Joe
is there a reason you choose the Presonus PD70 over the SM57 and SM7B? I am very curious.
Dynamic forever!
I'm not disagreeing with the video, but for now I already purchased a condenser microphone and I don't wish to sing "properly" like in a studio. I'm not trying to replicate a studio quality when I'm just singing comfortably in my bed...
But I think I prefer hands-free when I sing, I don't want to always hold the microphone all the time as it can block the blood flow around my bicep.
I think rap vocals are better recorded on condensers. For singers, dynamic microphones rock
I think it is great your covering hardware. When you get into “subjective” opinions of the actual details, science, of the devices gets lost in the importance of the product and the relevance of the video wanes.
The story about Bono preferring a dynamic mic in studio recordings seems to be a bit of a myth. There are very few pictures of him singing in the studio (compared to pics of him singing in public), but in those pics he's generally using a condenser.
interesting🤔🍻
How to add clap plugins to studio one v6
Doesn't show up even after adding its path to vst locations inside studio one
Saw a YT video today where everyone had a Rodes condenser mic. The thing was they had the tops pointed at the guest mouths. that cause me to cringe, while it works it was not the proper use and treating the condenser as a dynamic. cringe
Joe I didn't hear you say what brand microphone that was that you put your lips on.
Presonus PD-70.
Why do you compare the mics singing different parts of a song? One lower And the other one higher? Is that fair? Just saying
sounds like dynamic microphones are pretty personal, it's not like you pass it around to your mates for a group singing. With everyone pressing their lips to the mic, it's not very covid friendly.
anyone know the difference between extend and extend add in studio one shortcuts
im mind boggled
Hello Sir
I want to record my poetry professionally at home. Which microphone should I buy?
Dynamic or Condenser Mic? My room is not soundproof. Should I get a dynamic mic? If I record the same verse on both dynamic mic and condenser mic. After mixing and mastering, what would be the difference between the poetry recorded from both the mics? Will both be of the same quality? Will both have different quality? If the quality of condenser mic will be crisp. So can I make the poetry recorded with dynamic mic sound crisp? like condenser microphone?
Please tell me such a mic and audio interface that I will not regret after buying. I am complete begginer.
I am very confused. I have added money in 4 years with a lot of hard work. I don't want my money to be wasted.
use a pop sock
tfw the comments are more educational
I don’t like this because I literally google searched this Monday morning smh
Hello Sir. I want to record my poetry professionally at home. Which audio interface and microphone should I buy? Dynamic or Condenser Mic? My room is not soundproof. Should I get a dynamic mic? If I record the same verse on both dynamic mic and condenser mic. After mixing and mastering, what would be the difference between the poetry recorded from both the mics? Will both be of the same quality? Will both have different quality? If the quality of condenser mic will be crisp. So can I make the poetry recorded with dynamic mic sound crisp? like condenser microphone? I am very confused. I have added money in 4 years with a lot of hard work. I don't want my money to be wasted. Please tell me such a mic and audio interface that I will not regret after buying. I am complete begginer. I want professional quality. Like it is in the video 👇
ua-cam.com/users/shortspBJdvpQtNZA?feature=share
first take out the echoes. that's where your main problem lies. with echoes like that, any microphone will do, even a $20 mic.