These roller coasters can't legally be demolished

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  • Sadly, roller coasters, like everything, don’t last forever. Over time, theme parks change and adapt. Some rides seem to be exempt from this, however. There are five roller coasters within the UK that cannot legally be destroyed. These theme parks couldn’t turn around tomorrow and begin to demolish these rides. Why? Because they’ve been designated as important by the UK government.
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    00:00 Introduction
    00:59 Protecting and preserving history
    02:15 Grand National
    03:00 Blue Flyer
    03:25 Roller Coaster
    04:02 Big Dipper
    04:51 Scenic Railway
    05:19 What does listed status mean?
    08:34 New wood, same ride
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  • @coasterbot
    @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +44

    If you enjoyed this video, consider subscribing - that'd be awesome

    • @CoasterHipster
      @CoasterHipster 9 місяців тому +6

      Can I subscribe twice to artificially boost your algorithm? 🤪😘

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +8

      @@CoasterHipster Yes please my dude, that would be awesome :D

    • @camikelly2356
      @camikelly2356 8 місяців тому +1

      Harry, you should already know I subscribed to your channel a long time ago, and I'm not unsubscribing anytime soon.

  • @JamesonThomas24
    @JamesonThomas24 9 місяців тому +172

    So what I’m hearing is, when you play roller coaster tycoon and it says “authority forbids you from removing this ride,” or whatever, it’s not just a game mechanic haha

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +21

      Exactly ha ha😂

  • @StamfordBridge
    @StamfordBridge 9 місяців тому +32

    I’d love a follow-up video on controversial closings (E.g., a coaster suddenly torn down overnight before the public can react) or attempted closings (suspicious fires).

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +5

      That's a good suggestion, I'll make a note!

  • @thameslinkrail4038
    @thameslinkrail4038 9 місяців тому +41

    I think a part 2 about the regulations surrounding Alton Towers would be interesting
    The Gardens are Grade I listed, The Towers themselves are Grade II* listed and there are other Grade II listed buildings including the Swiss Cottage and the Stables (Mutiny Bay).

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +4

      That would be interesting, I'll make a note of it!

  • @katashworth41
    @katashworth41 9 місяців тому +42

    I’m rarely proud of being from Blackpool, but I am for the coasters. Blue Flyer (Zipper Dipper as was) was my first credit 30 odd years ago. I do feel very old now.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +3

      Hey that's so awesome! :)

  • @brickben16
    @brickben16 9 місяців тому +8

    I could easily see nemesis getting listed. It’s being retracted, which will give it another 30-40+ years, and by that point it will be almost 70. It’s just had such a massive impact on the UK theme park scene, and has also had significant contribution globally to rollercoasters.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      Who knows what will happen!

  • @missybarbour6885
    @missybarbour6885 9 місяців тому +4

    I have often said that coaster enthusiasts unintentionally take a really strong stance on The Ship of Theseus without really thinking about it lol

  • @feronar-warsongus221
    @feronar-warsongus221 9 місяців тому +20

    The US equivalent authority is the National Register of Historic Places, which is operated by the National Park Service. I could easily see Matterhorn at Disneyland and Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom becoming listed historic structures in the near future. They are the first steel coaster and the first coaster with computer controlled block zones respectively, and both rides have a high level of cultural and historic significance.

    • @MattMcIrvin
      @MattMcIrvin 9 місяців тому +4

      I recently learned that Matterhorn Bobsleds was not the first steel coaster or even the first tubular-steel coaster... but it was the first *Arrow* tubular-steel coaster and as such you can draw a line from it to the whole modern industry.
      I think you could make an argument for the Corkscrew at Silverwood, formerly of Knott's, having historic importance as the first modern coaster to have an inversion (and the one that "took", so to speak). Canobie Lake Park recently scrapped the second one, which was nearly identical to it--their reasons were sound, it being a rough and by modern standards unimpressive ride, but there is historic interest there. And then the Revolution at Magic Mountain was the first modern ride to have a vertical loop.

    • @MattMcIrvin
      @MattMcIrvin 9 місяців тому

      ...Here's the National Register of Historic Places search interface: npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP
      Unfortunately you can't just search for roller coasters, and saying "roller coaster" doesn't get them all. Leap-The-Dips, the Coney Island Cyclone and Roller Coaster at Lagoon are all in there, and the Giant Dippers at San Diego and Santa Cruz, and all of Rye Playland. Some are National Historic Landmarks, others are just Historic Places.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 9 місяців тому +2

      There are actually 2 coasers that are protected in the US: Leap the Dips and the Coney Island Cyclone

    • @Iamthepassenger08
      @Iamthepassenger08 9 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠@@AdamSmith-gs2dv while that may be true, private owners of protected sites can do whatever they want to them including destroying those rides. The structure would only truly be protected if they are owned by the government or receive government funding

  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld 9 місяців тому +19

    The ship of theseus concept is so interesting to think about. It reminds me of the idea that the human body replaces it's cells in 7 year cycle. We aren't even fully our original selves.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      That's pretty crazy isn't it 😳

    • @TS_Mind_Swept
      @TS_Mind_Swept 8 місяців тому

      ​@@coasterbotCrazy? I'm crazy

    • @Arvak
      @Arvak 8 місяців тому

      @@TS_Mind_Swept Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy.

    • @DrToonhattan
      @DrToonhattan 8 місяців тому

      That's a myth though.

    • @zakifletcher8998
      @zakifletcher8998 2 місяці тому

      If anything that’s a good thing, both physically and also regarding personality. Most people wouldn’t wanna be the same person they were when they in the their teens. We grow and learn from experience. Still strange to think about tho lol

  • @davidfrischknecht8261
    @davidfrischknecht8261 9 місяців тому +12

    The US has a similar body called the National Register of Historic Places. In fact, Leap the Dips at Lakemont Park in Altoona, PA is listed as a National Historic Landmark. You should do a similar video about the US.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 9 місяців тому +3

      Individual US states also have their own historical laws. For example the Coney Island Cyclone is not a national historic landmark but it is protected by NYC and NYS

    • @spittinvenom9843
      @spittinvenom9843 9 місяців тому

      Leap the Dips is awesome

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      Leap the Dips looks like a really unique ride!

  • @procrastination_productions
    @procrastination_productions 9 місяців тому +10

    An interesting story is the Aerial glide in Shipley, West Yorkshire. It was listed in 2003 as it was an “inverted coaster” that was built in the 1920’s-30’s but was delisted 10 months later and demolished for housing. It was a historic piece of West Yorkshire and it was ad for it to go.

    • @missybarbour6885
      @missybarbour6885 9 місяців тому

      Oh wow! I had no idea about this but I have to look it up now lol

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      That's a shame

  • @yourexperienceguide
    @yourexperienceguide 9 місяців тому +9

    May seem weird coming from me but I don’t like the BPB woodies being listed. I want them to stay and outlive me, but I don’t think it should be impossible for BPB to modify or remove them if required. I’d like to see the National get a full retrack, a station redesign and new trains but I’m living in hope not expectation.
    Great video Harry!

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +5

      Yeah I think that's a fair concern. In the future I imagine there will be a strong case to do everything you've just said, to ensure the Grand National lives on for another 100 years! Thanks :)

  • @KaspersetzSlideStudios
    @KaspersetzSlideStudios 9 місяців тому +8

    “That law can’t stop me because I can’t read”
    Todd Joseph, probably

  • @l.zalesgon958
    @l.zalesgon958 9 місяців тому +9

    I think The Big One, Colossus (Thorpe Park) and all of the Alton Towers’ Secret Weapons should be preserved for the future to come.

    • @awesomepig99withpiggy30
      @awesomepig99withpiggy30 9 місяців тому +1

      I absolutely agree

    • @CyborgCharlotte
      @CyborgCharlotte 5 місяців тому +2

      Especially Oblivion. That was the first ever Dive Coaster. Hell it’s more than that. It’s the prototype, the proof of concept

  • @alexwashere6660
    @alexwashere6660 9 місяців тому +5

    roller coaster at great yarmouth is one of my favourite rides ever (and im a huge thorpe park girly) its so surprisingly intense but comfortable

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      It's a great classic ride, for sure!

  • @MatthewRambles
    @MatthewRambles 9 місяців тому +5

    Brilliant video 👍. I work in Planning and I’m a latecomer to theme parks, but it was the retro rides at Blackpool that got me into it all. I like new too, but I think it’s good to keep the best of the old as it adds so much authenticity and character to a park.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      It definitely is good to keep the old, for sure! Thanks for watching :)

  • @devil_98_
    @devil_98_ 9 місяців тому +7

    Went on the big dipper last year, Was a great time, but the thing was almost falling apart. The side wall of the car i was in had actually disconnected from the floor so could be winged outwards from it's connection on the rear. Terrifying experience, It was amazing xD

    • @yourexperienceguide
      @yourexperienceguide 9 місяців тому +1

      It had extensive modifications carried out for 8 months before reopening in July 2023.

  • @korwynias_yt
    @korwynias_yt 9 місяців тому +8

    I wish there was something like that here in the U.S. to have saved Six Flags Astroworld that was in Houston, Tx. To this day I still miss that amusement park. There were some rides that were firsts. Like the river rapids float ride that was there was the first of its kind.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +4

      Some things are beyond saving it seems, sadly

    • @TheRadioAteMyTV
      @TheRadioAteMyTV 9 місяців тому +2

      The commentor who appears right before you said this "The US equivalent authority is the National Register of Historic Places, which is operated by the National Park Service. I could easily see Matterhorn at Disneyland and Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom becoming listed historic structures in the near future." He went on but you get the idea.

    • @missybarbour6885
      @missybarbour6885 9 місяців тому +4

      Astroworld certainly was a tragedy, but I doubt it would have qualified for something like this. For example, our National Register of Historic Places has listed Leap The Dips at Lakemont park in Altoona, PA because it's over 100 years old!

    • @korwynias_yt
      @korwynias_yt 9 місяців тому +1

      @@missybarbour6885 tragedy doesn't begin to describe it from what I understand. All because of someone who thought he could make a ton of money selling the land. But in the end karma nipped that.

  • @alidee5448
    @alidee5448 9 місяців тому +3

    One small correction/clarification: Here in the UK the Ship of Theseus is correctly known as "Trigger's Broom".

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  8 місяців тому

      Ha ha sorry 😂

    • @alidee5448
      @alidee5448 8 місяців тому +1

      For anyone wondering: ua-cam.com/video/56yN2zHtofM/v-deo.html
      Classic British comedy 🤣😂

  • @leyoshivenere350
    @leyoshivenere350 9 місяців тому +4

    Imagine UK not demolishing coasters, unreal

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      Well just these five, we've had many rides be demolished fortunately!

  • @chloegerrard4345
    @chloegerrard4345 9 місяців тому +1

    When i was around 9-10, I was so determined to go on the grand national even though I was generally not a fan of rollercoasters. My aunt asked me before I went on if I was really sure I wanted to and I wasn’t about to leave without going on, cause even though I was 10, I knew I probably wouldn’t get to ride it again until I was a lot older since Blackpool to my family was very much a once every 3-5 years sort of situation. So I got on, and it became my favourite rollercoaster, EVER. It was fast, it was thrilling and there wasn’t any 100ft drop, crazy inversions or anything of the sort. I loved it so much I begged to go on again but it was getting late so my request was denied. 2 years later we were able to go to Blackpool again, and my mission? Get back on the grand national. We were early in the morning when the park just opened, however, it was pouring with rain, so my grandma told me that I’d have to leave it until another time. I was angry, sure, but I understood. Yet, 7 years after that first ride, I’ve never been on the grand national again, even though now I’m a lot more confident about going on coasters myself. (since somehow nearly everyone in my family apart from my uncle either hate rollercoasters or have a medical condition preventing them from going on them which is totally understandable!) I’m hoping that once I turn 18, I’ll be able to save up a bit of money so that I can take my family to Blackpool again and that I’ll be able to ride my favourite rollercoaster again 😊

  • @TheOfficialSmudgy
    @TheOfficialSmudgy 9 місяців тому +4

    As one of the last wooden wildmice worldwide, Wild Mouse definitely should’ve been listed. The Ultimate should’ve been listed to due to it’s unique manufacturer and it’s record breaking status.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah that's an interesting point, I wonder why it wasn't.
      Record breaking status isn't enough to be listed, a ride often needs to include an important historic technological improvement or be one of the few remaining in its category. Having a weird manufacturer is interesting, but the composition of the ride isn't that unique

    • @TheOfficialSmudgy
      @TheOfficialSmudgy 9 місяців тому

      @@coasterbot I looked at historic englands website and apparently about a year before wildmouse closed someone applied to give wildmouse listed status but they declined stating that because of it’s major upgrades in the 60s/70s it wasn’t historical enough apparently due to it’s original layout being ‘barebones’. I bet the guy that declined that application feels a bit stupid now…

    • @Mitjitsu
      @Mitjitsu 9 місяців тому

      Being the first to include a technological innovation is not enough to have something listed, as you'll inevitably get other rides that do the same thing better over time. Just look at flying coasters for instance. Could you imagine how absurd it would be for Galatica to have protected status as Alton Towers? Also, being the last of it's kind is an even worse justification.

  • @robcoasters
    @robcoasters 9 місяців тому +5

    If I remember correctly, I've heard that Roller Coaster at Great Yarmouth also has to retain its colour scheme and cannot legally be repainted? Although that might be on shaky ground with how Nickelodeon Streak & Blue Flyer were repainted, but it's something to think about

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +4

      That is interesting and would surprise me. The livery(?) of Roller Coaster has changed many, many times over the decades. I'd be surprised if they could never change it again in the future

    • @deananthony1000
      @deananthony1000 9 місяців тому +2

      Doubt it as it isn’t old. Was called senic railway as it had plaster mountains and things but they soon crumbled away but in the 70’s 80’s and maybe 90’s it had a Muriel painting of ski slopes and downhill skiers ⛷️ and looked really good.

    • @deananthony1000
      @deananthony1000 9 місяців тому

      Has its own page on wiki.

    • @peterbrown4828
      @peterbrown4828 9 місяців тому

      The great Yarmouth scenic originally had plaster but when that was removed due to weathering it was painted with an alpine scene (I remember it well and pictures are on the internet with that design). When it needed repainting the person who did the alpine design had passed away so a simpler stars and stripes design was used.

  • @felicitygoesplaces
    @felicitygoesplaces 9 місяців тому +4

    I know that BPB are working hard on preserving the Big One, and I do hope that sometime in the future it will be reconsidered. It's not only iconic to the Blackpool skyline, but at the time was a world record holder!

    • @Mitjitsu
      @Mitjitsu 9 місяців тому

      It's not an indispensable ride as far as I'm concerned. Problem is should the time ever come. They would have to replace it with something even bigger and better.

  • @NicolasRaimo
    @NicolasRaimo 9 місяців тому +1

    I love the grand national coster brings back memory’s of going pleasure beach with my grandparents

  • @SANITIZEDINC
    @SANITIZEDINC 4 місяці тому

    Love your channel. Great information, thorough analysis, history, technology. Top notch work, brutha. Keep em coming.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for the kind words and for watching, it means a lot :)

  • @Stagbury
    @Stagbury 9 місяців тому

    Great video as always Harry!

  • @camikelly2356
    @camikelly2356 9 місяців тому

    Good video, Harry! Very informative. I like old school wooden roller coasters. It brings back nostalgia and allows you a break from the intensity and speed from modern day coasters. Although I haven't ridden any of these coasters yet, I can relate this to the experience I had at Kennywood in 2014 while riding their three old wooden coasters. They were lots of fun, smooth, and definitely underrated. Glad to see the classics retain their style!

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Cami! It definitely is good that some parks keep their classic wooden coasters, they're very different from the rides of today!

  • @thewarf3212
    @thewarf3212 8 місяців тому

    This is an amazing video Harry

  • @ThemeParkLuke
    @ThemeParkLuke 9 місяців тому +1

    This was very informative 😊

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, I'm glad you found it so!

  • @brogicus
    @brogicus 9 місяців тому +4

    I know it's not a rollercoaster but it would be interesting to do other rides like the water chute at Wicksteed park

    • @TheOfficialSmudgy
      @TheOfficialSmudgy 9 місяців тому +2

      I believe that all of the UK waterchutes are listed

  • @DanJonesShow
    @DanJonesShow 9 місяців тому

    There was a Big Dipper in the US. Built in 1925. It was AMAZING. Wooden coaster with massive air time. It was demolished in 2016 when the park it was in (Geauga Lake Ohio) was closed in 2007. Folks tried to save it but no dice. I wish the US had laws like the UK does to preserve coasters. After Geauga Lake closed, the world lost several classics, never to be seen again, roller coasters including Arrow Dynamics Double Loop and a wooden classic built by Dinn Corp. Raging Wolf Bobs. Lost forever, nothing protecting them.
    Great video! Very informative.

    • @davidfrischknecht8261
      @davidfrischknecht8261 9 місяців тому

      The US has the National Register of Historic Places. Leap the Dips at Lakemont Park in Altoona, PA is listed as a National Historic Landmark. There may be others as well.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      That's a shame, it is sad to see old roller coasters removed. Thanks for watching :)

  • @drdewott9154
    @drdewott9154 9 місяців тому

    Neat video. Also just a correction, but I'm pretty sure Vuoristorata at Linnanmaki in Finland is actually the largest operating scenic railway in the world. That ride was built in 1951 to a Scenic railway design with no side- or upstop wheels and is still operated with a brakeman to this day. The ride was designed by Danish roller coaster designer Valdemar Lebech who kept building large scale scenic railways into the 1950's. Vuoristorata is a near clone of Rutschebanen at Bakken, which is slightly smaller and opened in 1932. It has however been converted to brakemanless operation in 2010 with (awful) trains by Kumbak (also fun fact, that ride is also a grade listed structure and even owned and operated by the Danish government's department of nature).
    Waldemar Lebechs only surviving work are Tivoli's Rutschebanen (from 1914), Rutschebanen at Bakken (from 1932) and Vuoristorata from 1951, but he also built other coasters. Most notably the defunct Bergbanan at Liseberg which operated from 1923 until 1987 which was just short of a whole kilometer in length and by far the biggest coaster he ever built (and the biggest roller coaster in the world when it opened in 1923)
    Also rip the Wild Mouse. De-listed when it shouldn't have.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      It depends how you define largest, I really meant 'longest' but that doesn't hit the same as calling something the biggest, you know?
      The history of these scenic railway type rides is really interesting, thanks for sharing! Also RIP the wild mouse indeed :(

    • @drdewott9154
      @drdewott9154 9 місяців тому

      @@coasterbot I was mostly thinking of both longer and taller since Vuoristorata is around 23 meters Tall and is 960m long

  • @coppertopolo
    @coppertopolo 9 місяців тому +3

    I wish the Steeplechase had been saved. Unless I am wrong, I believe it has been closed for a while. I don't remember which park I was at when I rode it, but it was such a unique and fun experience. Great video !!

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +5

      Steeplechase is still operational, at least it was in June when I last visited! It's a very unique ride, there isn't anything else out there quite like it. Thanks for the kind words :)

    • @davewaring73
      @davewaring73 9 місяців тому +1

      Is it listed? It's been there for over all the decades I've visited.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      It isn't listed, though it did open in 1977 so it's pretty old!

    • @coppertopolo
      @coppertopolo 9 місяців тому

      @@coasterbot Funny how Tyler just posted his video on Blackpool Pleasure Beach and he and Sarah riding the Steeplechase. No telling when he recorded that video - but it was like serendipity that we have just been discussing it.

    • @Mitjitsu
      @Mitjitsu 9 місяців тому

      Steeplechase should be right at the top of the list for next ride to be replaced at BPB.

  • @thomasabbott8974
    @thomasabbott8974 9 місяців тому +1

    Truly enjoyed watching this video here of the Rollercoasters .
    ❤😊❤😊❤

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @TheRadioAteMyTV
    @TheRadioAteMyTV 9 місяців тому +1

    Indiana Jones 6 Ride of the Roller Coaster! "This belongs in a museum!!!!!!"
    Camera pans from coaster to Indy looking at both a roller coaster and his own reflection at the same time.

  • @assemblyrequired7342
    @assemblyrequired7342 Місяць тому

    I'm hoping that over time, that more coasters will be added to these types of lists. The US has the National Register of Historical Places, and I feel that it would be worth adding many of the early looping coasters, especially what Schwarzkopfs are still serviceable (this has nothing to do with my hope that designers will be inspired to experiment with circular loops to create more intense forces, or being salty about having never ridden the Mindbender). For that matter, in 20-50 years, it might be worth looking at the Coaster War-era rides too.
    There is a lot of historical value there, and it's a great way to appreciate how much the technology has evolved over the decades, and hopefully in the future, the centuries abroad.

  • @Gnrlshrimp
    @Gnrlshrimp 9 місяців тому

    I knew the big dipper was listed, but not some of these others. Thank you for the very informative and enjoyable video!
    ...shame about the grand national though. I would so love to see that given the RMC treatment.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching! I'm not sure the Grand National would be the best wooden coaster to get the RMC treatment honestly

  • @CoastersThrillsAndAirtimeHills
    @CoastersThrillsAndAirtimeHills 9 місяців тому +1

    My favourite ride as a kid was ‘the bullet’ at flamingoland. This has actually been moved to Selvia Magica and I would LOVE to go to Mexico and ride it again! My fear though would be that after riding so many epic rides, it would probably feel a lot different to how I remember it.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      The bullet looks awesome! I imagine it would feel quite different to ride it now

    • @CoastersThrillsAndAirtimeHills
      @CoastersThrillsAndAirtimeHills 9 місяців тому

      @@coasterbot the bullet is part of some of my best memories. I was so frightened to go on it and then at the end of our holiday I got the courage to ride it and must have ridden it 12 times by the end of the day 🤣.

  • @webecomets
    @webecomets 7 місяців тому

    Can you do a video about the history of the Scenic Railway type roller coaster. I love those things and would love to see more about it.

  • @theme_parkmad
    @theme_parkmad 9 місяців тому

    All listed and all amazing

  • @christophereichorn7918
    @christophereichorn7918 9 місяців тому

    WOW awesome 👍👍

  • @darrenbevan8603
    @darrenbevan8603 9 місяців тому

    Grand national and the old fun house were listed rides/buildings... one burnt dow to the ground and the other had a serious fire over the years but survived because of the hard work of Blackpool fire services... quite a loop hole

  • @Sauci55on
    @Sauci55on 9 місяців тому +2

    I guess Goudurix has some kind of protection like this, it’s gotta be the only reason Parc Astérix still didn’t tear down that big pile of metallic crap

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      ha ha I love this theory

  • @I_Was_Groot_2000
    @I_Was_Groot_2000 9 місяців тому +3

    Same thing applies to coney island cyclone. It can't legally be removed.

  • @AG7-MTM
    @AG7-MTM 7 місяців тому

    Is it possible for some sort of massive "reconstruction" to these rides? Could Big Dipper, for example, be given new structure, new track, and new trains like GCI Millenium Flyer?

  • @joecandish3923
    @joecandish3923 9 місяців тому +1

    When did all these wooden coasters receive their grade II listed status because must of been quite a while ago

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      The Blackpool ones were listed in 2017; Roller Coaster in 2016; and Scenic Railway in 2002.

  • @uu9rj
    @uu9rj 9 місяців тому +1

    Interesting that in the UK running afoul of these laws carries criminal liability and potential jail time, I don't think they're as onerous in the US.

  • @PrinceRoyceFan667
    @PrinceRoyceFan667 9 місяців тому +1

    As we've seen with Blue Streak, if your rich enough you can do anything

  • @billybadgerdad3673
    @billybadgerdad3673 9 місяців тому +1

    While it’s not the same as some of these rides, I was incredibly disappointed when light water valley removed The Ultimate. I felt like the history of it being created in assistance with British Rail. Not to mention it was at one point a record holder

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      I was so upset the Ultimate was removed :(

  • @ACWells13
    @ACWells13 9 місяців тому

    No wonder all the rides at Blackpool feel like they're shaking your bones out of your body 😂

  • @TheRobAllen77
    @TheRobAllen77 9 місяців тому

    Thought it was just the station building that was listed on the Grand National?

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      The ride too! I confirmed it with Historic England :)

  • @faves2064
    @faves2064 9 місяців тому +1

    All those woodys are basically Trigger's broom lol 😂

  • @stevecooksley
    @stevecooksley 9 місяців тому +1

    You say Ship of Theseus, others say Trigger's broom 😊

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      Ha ha potato, potato

  • @Goliath146
    @Goliath146 9 місяців тому +1

    Roller coasters are fun :)

  • @petermc7098
    @petermc7098 8 місяців тому

    Hello Harry, thank you for sharing your thoughts and I thought this was a really decent as well as informative video and it was great to hear your thoughts. Cheers Peter :)

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  8 місяців тому +1

      Hi Peter, thanks for watching!

    • @petermc7098
      @petermc7098 8 місяців тому

      @@coasterbot Hi Harry, you're welcome. Cheers Peter :⁠-⁠)

  • @midnightmoonlight04091
    @midnightmoonlight04091 9 місяців тому +1

    Why is Nickelodeon Streak not a grade listed roller coaster like the other 3 at Blackpool Pleasure Beach? Do you know?

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +3

      I spoke to Historic England about this. They said that Nickelodeon Streak didn't have anything unique about it that the other three Blackpool coasters didn't already have. Essentially it wasn't interesting or different enough compared to the others to warrant listed status.

    • @midnightmoonlight04091
      @midnightmoonlight04091 9 місяців тому

      @@coasterbot Oh, ok so BPB can just remove that one then (I doubt they will anyway).

  • @CatsAreKindaCool
    @CatsAreKindaCool 9 місяців тому +1

    I saw a vid about the Little Dipper,
    And someone in the comments were like: "they should rmc it."
    Like bro ._.

  • @dindog22
    @dindog22 3 місяці тому

    looks like the 2 scenic railway coasters have a brake man

  • @melvinschrab505
    @melvinschrab505 9 місяців тому

    No RMC scenic railway :(

  • @coolredpen
    @coolredpen 9 місяців тому

    Please may you do a 'UK coasters most likely to get RMC'ed' video please x

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      I'll make a note of it, thanks for the suggestion :)

  • @deananthony1000
    @deananthony1000 9 місяців тому

    Take no notice of Blackpool. They had a listed water shoot in way of new ride. I believe it was Valhalla. The water shoot mysteriously burnt down one night.

    • @autisticadventuressteam83
      @autisticadventuressteam83 9 місяців тому

      water chute never had a fire at Blackpool, and existed alongside Valhalla for many years as Vikingar.

  • @ThePandorads9
    @ThePandorads9 8 місяців тому

    Based on this criteria I feel like a lot of rides at Towers should be classed in a similar way due to their technical achievements or that they were earliest or original concepts of that type of ride
    The inky difference is time

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  8 місяців тому

      There are certainly a lot of world's firsts at Alton Towers!

  • @springlamb7743
    @springlamb7743 9 місяців тому

    I think nemisis (Alton towers) will be listed one day. It's getting a retrack but it's unlikely to ever be demolished because of how it was built into the landscape

  • @TheRadioAteMyTV
    @TheRadioAteMyTV 9 місяців тому +3

    Please do a follow up video with all the prisoners in the Tower of London who dared desecrate a "really old" roller coaster in England. That's the one I will be waiting for... until I am "really old".

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +2

      ha ha that would be good

  • @ieuanrees6042
    @ieuanrees6042 9 місяців тому

    I done all roller coasters I love them all

  • @CoasterHipster
    @CoasterHipster 9 місяців тому

    What if the coaster gets damage by 'accident'? Would the park be forced to repair/rebuild? Otherwise there could be a loophole some unscrupulous parks to exploit and get rid of expensive rides to maintain..

    • @thameslinkrail4038
      @thameslinkrail4038 9 місяців тому +2

      That has happened recently (Crooked House, Dudley) and the building's owner had to rebuild it at their own expense.

    • @SonOfFurzehatt
      @SonOfFurzehatt 9 місяців тому +2

      Minor damage would need to be repaired. If the whole thing burnt to the ground, Historic England could decide to force them to build a replica, especially if the owners started the fire intentionally. The park may be able to argue that a replacement wouldn't be a satisfactory replacement, and the ride would get de-listed.
      The Scenic Railway at Margate was completely rebuilt after a fire, but I don't know whether the park was on board, or whether they were forced.

  • @filanfyretracker
    @filanfyretracker 9 місяців тому

    I guess on the upside the UK does not get big storms, Guessing these seaside parks never have to fear something like Sandy coming along and throwing their ride into the ocean. Like that famous image from New Jersey of a rollercoaster sitting in the Atlantic.

    • @ElectriKong-
      @ElectriKong- 9 місяців тому +1

      Unlike Star Jet, none of these are on a pier above the sea. Roller coasters are generally very resistant to storms, so when they get destroyed, it's not because the structure failed, but because another structure the coaster was built on, or attached to, or in the vicinity of, failed and brought the coaster down with it. If anything happened to these coasters, they'd probably just be required to be rebuilt (as had happened with Dreamland Margate's Roller Coaster).

  • @kanechrist4213
    @kanechrist4213 9 місяців тому

    Dorney Park's Thunderhawk will turn 100 in 2024. It is the oldest coaster in the entire Cedar Fair chain, and with the American Coaster Enthusiasts (ACE) presenting it with a Coaster Landmark plaque recently, it has become one of the VERY few wood coasters in the USA to be saved from the soulless, selfish, history-hating onslaught that is RMC.

  • @vordman
    @vordman 9 місяців тому

    I hope one day they will restore the Yarmouth Coaster to its former glory. It used to be covered in plaster not that cheap looking sheeting.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      Fingers crossed, it definitely looked better back in the day!

  • @Givemepeacealone
    @Givemepeacealone 9 місяців тому

    This must be why they got rid of wild mouse in Blackpool, before it got listed

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      Maybe!

    • @ElectriKong-
      @ElectriKong- 9 місяців тому

      They upgraded the brakes during the 2016-17 offseason, so they probably intended to keep it just 1 year prior. Also it is rumoured that regulations were more on the side of forcing the ride closed, rather than forcing it to remain open.

  • @ThrillsofColdplay
    @ThrillsofColdplay 9 місяців тому

    You should do America

  • @joecandish3923
    @joecandish3923 9 місяців тому

    Is there a difference between Grade II, Grade II* and Grade I because why aren't any of them Grade I status

    • @stevecooksley
      @stevecooksley 9 місяців тому

      Doesn't Grade I mean you can't replace any original part with a newer piece?

  • @Mitjitsu
    @Mitjitsu 9 місяців тому

    I could understand Big Dipper, but Grand National never should have gotten protected status. All protected status does for roller coasters is put off future owners. Leading to them either not purchasing the park and putting in significant investment or placing a lower bid.

    • @JP_TaVeryMuch
      @JP_TaVeryMuch 9 місяців тому

      If they have that sort of attitude, they don't deserve to own one.

  • @MalrusOSC
    @MalrusOSC 9 місяців тому

    Icon should be the 6th. That deserves to stay at BPB
    Edit: OPINION CHANGED. Nemesis (Reborn) should be listed. I’ve actually been on it and it’s my favourite rollercoaster

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      Icon is great but I'm not sure it deserves to be listed :)

  • @d4m4s74
    @d4m4s74 9 місяців тому

    Imagine the controversy if RMC showed up in blackpool.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      That would turn a few heads for sure!

  • @timothyverbist5795
    @timothyverbist5795 9 місяців тому

    Well, Nemesis & The Big One are as old as i am.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      Enjoy the big 3 0 next year!

  • @timothyverbist5795
    @timothyverbist5795 9 місяців тому

    Well i agree about the rides, people can be disappointed when their favorite rides or parks are demolished. I also can be disappointed when i want to be on a ride or go to a park & it doesn't exist anymore.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      People definitely love old rides, just look at Disney, there's always fans frustrated with ride closures!

  • @NewEnglandModz
    @NewEnglandModz 9 місяців тому

    Does the government pay for the upkeep or compensate the companies in any way for keeping old outdated rides? Doesn't seem terribly fair that they're not able to use their own land to construct newer/better rides.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      They sometimes offer assistance but it isn't a given that any place gets paid money to up-keep their listed structures.

  • @cynthiapickett7403
    @cynthiapickett7403 9 місяців тому

    In other words: they're historic landmarks.

  • @TS_Mind_Swept
    @TS_Mind_Swept 8 місяців тому

    "Who names a roller coaster Roller Coaster?.."

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  8 місяців тому

      People with big creative imaginations!

  • @CallingAllTP
    @CallingAllTP 8 місяців тому

    So they technically can’t rmc any of these rides😢

  • @bradcleveland2482
    @bradcleveland2482 9 місяців тому

    They destroyed the oldest wooden coaster at conneaut lake Park in pa

  • @Nerdchacho
    @Nerdchacho 9 місяців тому

    And despite this, people still convince themselves that Grand National can just easily be RMC'd without realising that in the UK, we don't just grotesquely oppsie-erase our history for new and shiny... we have enough to preserve it - and do.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      I feel like Grand National wouldn't RMC very well

    • @ElectriKong-
      @ElectriKong- 9 місяців тому

      If it got RMC'd, it would be a 208 Retrak deal. Blackpool would never be able to make the case that the British Twisted Colossus that thoosies are hoping for would be needed to preserve the ride.

  • @Bushwackerinpa
    @Bushwackerinpa 9 місяців тому

    I mean or you could burn it down like Blue Streak......

  • @gemmachaos
    @gemmachaos 9 місяців тому

    So why not the Roller Coaster at Blackpool? I mean, sigh, "Nickelodeon Streak"? It's older than Grand Nash, right?

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  8 місяців тому

      According to Historic England there isn't anything unique about it compared to the other listed coasters. It doesn't feature any technological advancement, or isn't any more rare, than the others.

  • @SonOfFurzehatt
    @SonOfFurzehatt 9 місяців тому

    I don't care - somebody needs to do SOMETHING to make The Grand National less of a boneshaker.

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      They do retrack it every few years but it eventually becomes rougher again. That's the nature of wooden roller coasters!

    • @SonOfFurzehatt
      @SonOfFurzehatt 9 місяців тому

      @@coasterbot It's more than that, though - the forces are horrendous.

  • @woodencoasterfan
    @woodencoasterfan 9 місяців тому

    Did they catch the arsonist that burned the coaster?

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      Great question, I'm honestly not sure

  • @slayer_west
    @slayer_west 9 місяців тому

    Awesome video - I think you should uppercase your UA-cam name as just 'coaster bot' seems sort of unprofessional!

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +2

      It used to be all upper case, but I kinda prefer the aesthetic of it being all lowercase :)

  • @Jodor--
    @Jodor-- 9 місяців тому

    Diamonds last for ever

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому +1

      Does anything last forever when the heat death of the universe is inevitable?

    • @lorenzoborromeo4835
      @lorenzoborromeo4835 8 місяців тому

      @@coasterbotEntropy: troll

    • @lorenzoborromeo4835
      @lorenzoborromeo4835 8 місяців тому

      Half life: Trollge_2

  • @DawsonsMemes
    @DawsonsMemes 9 місяців тому

    Just me or does anyone want to take the blue boards off roller coaster to make it look better

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  9 місяців тому

      If you look up old photos of roller coaster it looks cooler with the nice scenery

  • @j1sh1
    @j1sh1 9 місяців тому

    hi

  • @Kafj302
    @Kafj302 9 місяців тому

    I am like number 723

  • @Norge_collector_history
    @Norge_collector_history 8 місяців тому

    Is there grade III

    • @coasterbot
      @coasterbot  8 місяців тому

      There isn't a grade III under Historic England's scale

    • @Norge_collector_history
      @Norge_collector_history 8 місяців тому

      @@coasterbot yea I see. When you look at properties sometimes thay say grade III listed and that is in the uk. It must just be a different scale

  • @walkaz
    @walkaz 9 місяців тому

    It’s a shame and now holding bpb back. People don’t want to reride those coasters and after one brutal ride you seriously wonder what all the hype is about