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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
  • Featuring: The Legend of Kitten Exterminator
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 179

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 2 роки тому +272

    I love how he was like "is kitten a youtuber? is he doing well because he's being pocketed?" and then pockets him once they're on the same team.
    and then realizes that he really is just that good.

    • @braedenmclean5304
      @braedenmclean5304 2 роки тому +22

      He was only mad because he wasn’t the one pocketing the guy playing well

    • @2EntireLegs
      @2EntireLegs Рік тому +13

      @@braedenmclean5304 truly the submissive and breedable medic vibe

  • @euanokeeffe9652
    @euanokeeffe9652 2 роки тому +203

    He lives in an apartment. We have narrowed down his lair. We will find him.

    • @recurvestickerdragon
      @recurvestickerdragon 2 роки тому +24

      Hmm, yes. An apartment in San Diego... It's just a matter of time /s

    • @faceless2302
      @faceless2302 2 роки тому +39

      Whatever you do, don't respond to the woman at the door. It's a test. Just stand there until Fish comes to give you his autograph

    • @noahhill841
      @noahhill841 2 роки тому +1

      Was waiting for this comment

    • @ShovelLettuce
      @ShovelLettuce 2 роки тому +3

      How many apartments in San diego exist though

    • @RoachCoach420
      @RoachCoach420 Рік тому

      Tuesday, April 18th. On Tax Day.

  • @27mosquitoes
    @27mosquitoes 2 роки тому +92

    Fishstick Lives-
    In San Diego
    In an Apartment
    Hey google! Make a route to all san diego apartment complexes!

    • @Vooman
      @Vooman 2 роки тому +8

      google: *cries in Travelling Salesman Problem*

  • @nickrustyson8124
    @nickrustyson8124 2 роки тому +240

    Man we need a remake of the Liberty Launcher BWA but with whatever stat Kitten Exterminator is doing

    • @nickrustyson8124
      @nickrustyson8124 2 роки тому +16

      You know what annoys me the most about Yiik, there is a somewhat good idea that game could've done, but they ruin every chance they got, the game is way too colorful to really take it serious, crazy shit happens a bit too soon, Alex is in this weird place where he is too much of a prick to be relatable, but isn't enough of a prick to be a protag you're suppose to hate, their weapons are dumb (That goes with how it's too colorful) and the character designs, pretty much only like 2 or 3 of them fit the late 1990s setting, the rest are straight out of the 2000s and 2010s

    • @ToonLinkGotT
      @ToonLinkGotT 2 роки тому +1

      @@nickrustyson8124 Alex Yiik is full of vril tho

    • @kzhe
      @kzhe 2 роки тому +8

      @@nickrustyson8124 dude are you yiiking rn?

    • @charleslapoint615
      @charleslapoint615 2 роки тому +1

      “Headshot kills, I can put that on my classic”

    • @thenewmeta5139
      @thenewmeta5139 2 роки тому +4

      I'm going to gift this man a l
      Strange liberty launcher I swear

  • @engine4403
    @engine4403 2 роки тому +52

    add a distance charged strangefier but call the tide turner one "Land Sailed"

  • @cosmicvoidtree
    @cosmicvoidtree 2 роки тому +80

    Probably one of my best experiences with the loose cannon, was in mvm, there were like 15 medics on a giant, I had 2 ticks on damage for my cannon, and I perfectly timed a shot to get all of the meds at once. The dopamine rush was crazy.

  • @panda_sauce9647
    @panda_sauce9647 2 роки тому +26

    25:10 this happened to me. My next door neighbor with dementia died at my doorstep trying to get in. Most likely he thought our house was his. I have ring footage of it and he just wandered to our door sat there and died. There was blood so he probably got injured and came to our house thinking it was his house and trying to get in to get help. or he just came to our house looking for help. Either one could have happened but it was really sad to see. These things aren’t mysterious. It’s people with underlying mental problems doing dangerous and irrational things because they feel they’re in danger.

  • @CrazyCritter1
    @CrazyCritter1 2 роки тому +67

    Nothing like good ol' double phlog parts!

  • @ratchetmaster1234
    @ratchetmaster1234 2 роки тому +49

    I love how he still called the Liberty Launcher the Schwicky Swag even though that video is like 2 years old

    • @thatguycole1413
      @thatguycole1413 2 роки тому +24

      My brother in Christ that's from a Star_ vid 8+ years ago

    • @auroral0realis
      @auroral0realis 2 роки тому +3

      @@thatguycole1413 awh, don't make me feel old like that

    • @Kaelicles
      @Kaelicles Рік тому

      He called it the Schwicky Swag because it’s an anagram of Liberty Launcher

  • @Triangle1929
    @Triangle1929 2 роки тому +86

    Can we apprechiate how the first CRITICAL rocket of that kritsz did a wooping... 101 damage to that heavy. 14:00 , my gosh... what a... interesting weapon

    • @neutraldalek4222
      @neutraldalek4222 2 роки тому +12

      Looking at the wiki, I'm pretty sure 101 is the absolute minimum the liberty launcher can deal. Kitten Exterminator just nicking people with the edge of the blast.

    • @stefel7765
      @stefel7765 2 роки тому +1

      it's 164 wdym

    • @neutraldalek4222
      @neutraldalek4222 2 роки тому +1

      @@stefel7765 14:14 is what I think they were talking about.

  • @Wow1w
    @Wow1w 2 роки тому +2

    18:00
    Fish: *goes on a tangent about the fish bites and how not all viewers are subscribers*
    me: yeaaaaaaahhhh.....how dare they not notice..... *shuffles out of the room trying not to be noticed*

  • @engine4403
    @engine4403 2 роки тому +64

    sniper balancing ideas I havent heard because theyre weird:
    Easy to implement: punish whiffs by making a large sound area around the bullet so if you miss near a target they will hear it and know that theres a sniper actively shooting at them, just like a large long hitscan box and a sound effect needed really
    Hard to implement: when facing downwards give all classes a hand animation so they will point their guns downwards while also covering the head, balanced by the fact that it only works on one way and also gimps the players ability to see. Might make sniping tad difficult when theres no enemies between you and them

    • @recurvestickerdragon
      @recurvestickerdragon 2 роки тому

      Those actually sound really fun

    • @llmkursk8254
      @llmkursk8254 2 роки тому +5

      Oh my god you’re right. I’d immediately think of ducking or running if I heard a sniper bullet whizz past but you never hear that in TF2

    • @sensibledog09
      @sensibledog09 2 роки тому +6

      I really like these ideas,they dont change any of the classes weapons,they just implement mechanics,the punishing whiffs one sounds really cool and the one covering the head sounds awesome though perhaps make it so that it's with the push of the button when looking down and maybe make it so that the classes cant carry their primary weapons when holding said button

    • @engine4403
      @engine4403 2 роки тому +1

      @@sensibledog09 idk about pushing a button since the whole idea doubles as a more cartoonish way for everyone to shoot
      (especially for heavy who after some degree just looks straight on while the bullets in his gun magically bend downwards from the barrel.)
      as for limiting what weapons should have this feature it could be balanced by the way of animation, say when primary is aimed down the classes hold it to one side and such.

    • @sensibledog09
      @sensibledog09 2 роки тому +1

      @@engine4403 yeah I guess holding down a button would be kinda dumb though I do like the idea for the gun to be slightly off centered,so its harder to aim,kinda like the rocket launchers but more drastic

  • @theride1176
    @theride1176 2 роки тому +11

    The trick with the bison is trash talking it while you use it

  • @Rainyredman1234
    @Rainyredman1234 2 роки тому +5

    Man actually called the liberty launcher the schwicky schwack old ass reference

  • @darthvaderbutwayshittier7054
    @darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 2 роки тому +9

    15:12 Fish says the N-Word

  • @ultimateaura7629
    @ultimateaura7629 2 роки тому +11

    You rarely fool someone with your disguise as spy, but when you do it feels so good lol

  • @cecilharvey0352
    @cecilharvey0352 2 роки тому +7

    "What is with the fuckin' DONGS?!" - FishStick, 2022

  • @charmaster2458
    @charmaster2458 2 роки тому +4

    Any one notice that Fish's pyro impression at 14:47 lines up with the conch pretty well

  • @sealessseadog2735
    @sealessseadog2735 2 роки тому +7

    oh my my! it appears this men went double donkers!

  • @Vedsetta
    @Vedsetta 2 роки тому +7

    I could tell from the first time he showed his face that Fish was from California. He’s got strong surfer/broccoli pizza vibes

  • @j.vermilye3816
    @j.vermilye3816 2 роки тому +2

    11:48 the chad immortal liberty launcher soldier

  • @ItsOnlyRocknRoll13
    @ItsOnlyRocknRoll13 2 роки тому +12

    you can be post-modern without being pretentious and vice versa. it's mostly only when someone describes their own work as part of an artistic movement that they get pretentious, just saying

  • @27mosquitoes
    @27mosquitoes 2 роки тому +26

    Any pyro main would be crying for a phlog strangifier, don't lie

    • @taureon_
      @taureon_ 2 роки тому +3

      as a pyro main i would immediately sell it on SCM

    • @deathisfunny56
      @deathisfunny56 2 роки тому +3

      I think you can pick up a strange phlog for like 60 to 80 cents on the market place lol

    • @taureon_
      @taureon_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@deathisfunny56 i would still sell it for the simple fact that i dont want to have a strange phlog

    • @nightnark3037
      @nightnark3037 2 роки тому

      i'm a pyro main, and as one i say
      Fuck the phlog

    • @airplanemaniacgaming7877
      @airplanemaniacgaming7877 2 роки тому +1

      @@taureon_ Why, because people would see how much you use it, and be rightfully irritated?

  • @aetu35
    @aetu35 2 роки тому +7

    I love how this was posted right after I had a perfect pl_upward with Loose Cannon demo where I probably got over 100 donks.

  • @Jon_the_Wizard
    @Jon_the_Wizard 2 роки тому +2

    Can I just say I love the name Other Players, My One Weakness? That name is hysterical.

  • @OrochiJr97
    @OrochiJr97 2 роки тому +16

    15:04
    Demo: *puts a massive sticky bomb trap under Pyro's feet and blows him/her/it to outer space.*

  • @deathisfunny56
    @deathisfunny56 2 роки тому +2

    I was bojangles it was so much fun playing with you lol

  • @linusdickens4767
    @linusdickens4767 2 роки тому +8

    Dude I love your fish bites. I could watch them for hours!

  • @Satherian
    @Satherian 2 роки тому +31

    While I understand that sniper is hard to master, but incredibly rewarding to do, it's one of the reasons that bots are able to run wild.
    Think about Engineer or Spy. They have complex gameplay that requires more than just 'move and click on head'.

  • @Nekoneko_99
    @Nekoneko_99 2 роки тому +3

    I actually got a triple double donk once when i was on the 2fort enemy battlements,so salty i didnt record it. I got a triple kill from one double donk,i nearly overdosed on dopamine.

  • @4gent69
    @4gent69 2 роки тому +3

    5:58 “That is a lot of dong” yup someone’s going to take that out of context
    Edit: “I’m getting good with the dong” “Oh my god what is with all the fucking dongs?”

  • @schweppley1614
    @schweppley1614 2 роки тому +17

    I came up with a sort of buff for the liberty launcher, make it have a boost meter, similar to the baby face’s blaster, but instead of boosting your speed, it buffs your reload speed, weapon switch speed, banner deployment speed, and swing speed across all weapons in your kit, this would make it a much better combo weapon, and shit, it might even make the equalizer good, this is balanced out by the fact that you will always suffer less damage on your rocket launcher
    SCHWICKY SCHWAG FOR LIFE

  • @Recker45-70
    @Recker45-70 2 роки тому +2

    me in the back of a spencers at 10 years old 6:48

  • @theunnamedaccount4009
    @theunnamedaccount4009 2 роки тому +4

    I'd say the biggest problem with fish bites is the length of the videos. Most are about ~30 minutes long, and that's a commitment to watch
    They also tend to be a bit haphazard in terms of content. Some parts are the funnies, others are sick airshot clips, others are a rant of some sort
    I'd recommend honing in on one of these, or another aspect of your choosing. This would probably make it so that the videos are shorter (brings more people in) and more consistent (would allow for a growth of a more dedicated audience). Then again, I'm not a youtuber so take what I say with a grain of salt

  • @bardofvoid174
    @bardofvoid174 2 роки тому +3

    that arrow was on your screen for 18 frames, or about 0.3 seconds (technically)

  • @carlwheezergaming4989
    @carlwheezergaming4989 2 роки тому +5

    I used to own a strange tide turner, I sold it cause I was low on funds and I regret it now that I realize that it's kinda rare

  • @Collisto2435
    @Collisto2435 2 роки тому +4

    What if the Liberty Launcher had a +25% faster firing speed on top of its current design. I think that make the weapon relevant in most players hands and a tool of destruction in kitten exterminators hands

    • @uttopielec
      @uttopielec 2 роки тому +3

      no that would make it a straight upgrade from stock you can add like a 10%buff to firing speed but it's not necessary

  • @Vooman
    @Vooman 2 роки тому +1

    20:33 the best part is, anyone who doesn't know what YIIK is absolutely would not believe this description of a scene is actually in the game lmao

  • @kirbyfreakyt4695
    @kirbyfreakyt4695 2 роки тому +1

    Hey, if you don't want one of those Phlog strangifiers I'd take one off your hands and call my Phlog "Bad Luck"

  • @yobrethren
    @yobrethren 2 роки тому +1

    9:38 fifteen UA-cam (1080 60fps) frames precisely, this arrow appeared on til yo death
    brutal stuff ahahaha

  • @therwtyt
    @therwtyt 2 роки тому +6

    Interesting idea I had for the quick fix while watching this video. (no idea why I did. It dosent even appear in the video) what if it had no flashing penalty or a greatly reduced flashing penalty during its ubercharge?

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 2 роки тому

      Its already good it's just not as universal as invulnerability. I'm not that opposed to making it better because I like it but I don't think its necessary.

    • @therwtyt
      @therwtyt 2 роки тому +1

      @@CAMSLAYER13 I know, I just feel like it might help it be more useful in pushing multiple people through chokepoints. Though my oppinion should be taken with a grain of salt, as I have only ever played the orange box version due to a lack of a capable pc

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 2 роки тому

      @@therwtyt well you aren't wrong, what you are suggesting probably would make it easier to push with it but it'll still always have the problem of if there's too many enemies you simply can't heal enough

  • @skadoosher7747
    @skadoosher7747 2 роки тому +2

    18:33 wallbang tf2

  • @Byzzardo
    @Byzzardo 2 роки тому +1

    19:55 Hey, that's not a Sniper line I've ever heard before 🐵

  • @karate_j0e24
    @karate_j0e24 2 роки тому +1

    If there's something we all learned today, it's the existence of Schrodinger's racist.

  • @RiffSilverthe1andonly
    @RiffSilverthe1andonly 2 роки тому +3

    I told many people fish sent me today with the classic

  • @greenoctagon5296
    @greenoctagon5296 2 роки тому

    It’s okay, I think I have about 15 phlog strangifiers in my inventory that I have on their own page that I refuse to look at

  • @ketra1504
    @ketra1504 2 роки тому +1

    If you want to experience something as bad as YIIK I'd recommend "Life tastes like cardboard"

  • @saturdaynightratfight3471
    @saturdaynightratfight3471 2 роки тому

    “The loose cannon is bad” lmao

  • @EdibleREAL
    @EdibleREAL Рік тому

    3:03 the fish stick moment

  • @sapomago
    @sapomago 2 роки тому

    I swear if i get a strange loose cannon i WILL rename it to Donker's Delight and the desc will be Git dunked on lmfao

  • @spacecat6236
    @spacecat6236 2 роки тому +1

    That liberty launcher guy was a pain in my ass

    • @braedenmclean5304
      @braedenmclean5304 2 роки тому

      Almost like he was being pocketing most of the game, what did he has some medic up his ass all game /s

    • @gotsomham
      @gotsomham 2 роки тому

      How so?

    • @spacecat6236
      @spacecat6236 2 роки тому

      @@gotsomham hit every shot, he truly was a kitten exterminator killing my ass all the time

  • @onef1n1ty
    @onef1n1ty Рік тому

    honestly, i am no person to ask for balance, but i feel like the way to make the bison better is to make it do 3s of critical hits after you kill someone with it (kinda like how the killing gloves of boxing work), and make it have a slightly slower reload time than the cow mangler 5000 (maybe 10-20% slower)

  • @tee-sam-ee-red
    @tee-sam-ee-red 2 роки тому

    5:58 listen to that with your eyes closed

  • @Robeadactyl
    @Robeadactyl 2 роки тому

    wait fish, you're san diego county? that's dope, i'm over in riverside!
    i'm leaving now

  • @spaced8641
    @spaced8641 2 роки тому

    Expand Donk 3: The Donkening.

  • @spookywizard1265
    @spookywizard1265 2 роки тому

    yiik full playthrough with commentary when

  • @Tekshipie
    @Tekshipie 2 роки тому

    Nice to know you're a fellow SoCal er Fishstick. Greetings from Glendora SGV. Hope the incoming heat treats you well.

  • @cristinagomez3283
    @cristinagomez3283 2 роки тому +1

    Try doing a bad weapon academy for PVZ GW2 for the retro gatling or the armored heal station. The reason the retro gatling is bad is because the ammo count is halved, totaling 50 instead of 100, and the fire rate is SO SLOW. And the only thing you get is 1 extra damage per shot.
    The reason the armored heal station is bad is because it has more health, but only a fraction of the healing, the issue being that the heal station is supposed to heal teammates, not tank more damage, and nerfing your healing ability for more armor is just taking the Mickey.

  • @spectac2384
    @spectac2384 2 роки тому

    You probably shouldn't have said "DONGAGE" that sounds kinda weird to hear just out of the blue

  • @dave9309
    @dave9309 2 роки тому +1

    An idea I have for sniper balancing, is to only allow quick scope headshots at short range (same distance as the new Ambassador) beyond this distance headshots are only possible once fully charged, to offset this though, I would propose the charge time be reduced by 50% for all sniper rifles. This would retain the skill of quick scoping enemies that are harassing you, but makes the long range picks more deserved.

  • @GastlyGibus
    @GastlyGibus 2 роки тому

    Everywhere I go YIIK follows, god

  • @readytoplay7874
    @readytoplay7874 2 роки тому +1

    extremely professional donger

  • @null_mau3r208
    @null_mau3r208 2 роки тому +1

    You remind me of rtgames when he played tf2

  • @dudester76
    @dudester76 2 роки тому

    Jokes on you fish I understand pyroese.

  • @juicenozzle2575
    @juicenozzle2575 2 роки тому

    oh my god he's talking about yiik

  • @disgustingg
    @disgustingg 2 роки тому

    brb stalking fishstick irl

  • @_meatballer_
    @_meatballer_ 2 роки тому

    9:42 troll sniper

  • @spartanssword7782
    @spartanssword7782 2 роки тому

    2:40 it's an apartment

  • @_meatballer_
    @_meatballer_ 2 роки тому

    2:40-3:33 happy demo made my day

  • @loveshankme
    @loveshankme 2 роки тому +2

    Something I don't understand with YIIK is the idea that Alex is an unlikable protagonist from the beginning of the game. SURELY, if you wanted to make a protagonist unlikable, wouldn't it be better to ease that into the game? Having it be right off the bat just makes the game a lot more painful to go through.

    • @srenbecs1993
      @srenbecs1993 2 роки тому +1

      the protag is a self insert for the creator, i don't think it's intended

    • @Gensolink
      @Gensolink 2 роки тому

      or maybe have him have some redeeming quality, show them do cool stuff idk. Dude just sounds like a dick 24/7

    • @norpotti52
      @norpotti52 2 роки тому

      @@srenbecs1993 AFAIK, the character being a self-insert is not true. The developer in an asshole too, but that is unrelated to how the character of Alex ended up.

  • @thefirstsalty3055
    @thefirstsalty3055 2 роки тому +1

    Is that a fellow californian I smell?

  • @Doris.__
    @Doris.__ 2 роки тому

    The Armaggedonk

  • @NoHands46
    @NoHands46 2 роки тому +1

    The good Ole *Triple* *D* .

  • @davidedwards2270
    @davidedwards2270 2 роки тому +1

    How you gonna call it a bite when it's 30 minutes long

  • @mrnubnub4584
    @mrnubnub4584 Рік тому

    An Idea for getting more views for Fish Bites videos. Call them *Fishstick* Bites instead.

  • @Warrior0_0
    @Warrior0_0 2 роки тому +1

    Phlog is comin 😈

  • @justcuz8202
    @justcuz8202 2 роки тому

    About the entire YIIK rant; I don't LIKE YIIK, like, at all, but I know Andrew Allenson, and I've spoken with him a lot about what he made and I can tell you firsthand that Alex isn't meant to be a self insert, in fact, Alex is based on Andrew's childhood school BULLY, and they don't even look or sound anything alike. So... Yeah, I don't like the thing at all myself, but he's not a self insert and I don't really get where that comes from.

  • @BreadHarlow
    @BreadHarlow 2 роки тому +1

    I LOVE fishbites

  • @spugg713
    @spugg713 2 роки тому

    your impressions are so funny

  • @tommygun4552
    @tommygun4552 2 роки тому +4

    Wasn't expecting to be this early, but I'd take it...

  • @Kyronea
    @Kyronea 2 роки тому +6

    Statistics that are frequently misleading and lack all context, and fail to acknowledge the historical tendency for certain minorities to be forced into impoverished situations over and over, etc etc...

  • @boneheadedfellow
    @boneheadedfellow 2 роки тому +1

    15:11 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @Paikon097
    @Paikon097 2 роки тому

    wait, there is no strange dragons fury or strange tide turner???

  • @weirdguypatrick
    @weirdguypatrick 2 роки тому

    da da does fishstick live here?

  • @alpacaofthemountain8760
    @alpacaofthemountain8760 2 роки тому

    Love these videos

  • @gumisharks5127
    @gumisharks5127 2 роки тому +1

    I doxed myself in a discord server once and had an anxiety attack.
    and also I feel post-modernist art can be neat, its just like every other art form where its clogged with mundane and garbage works.
    but there's a problem there, I don't even think YIIK was post modernist anyway! Like, for example, the fact the game tries to be emotional but has the main character be a douchbag. That's not really post-modernist as much as it is nihilistic, and even THEN its not even REAL nihilism, its Rick and Morty bitchy moany crybaby nihilism.

  • @taureon_
    @taureon_ 2 роки тому

    The Video of Donkalonkologongus

  • @keaton5101
    @keaton5101 2 роки тому

    10:25 wow star underscore was right people really do call it that

  • @nugget0928
    @nugget0928 2 роки тому

    I might go to San Diego and knock on every door there just to see the look on your face.

  • @Paikon097
    @Paikon097 2 роки тому

    frontier train should make ppl explode instead of ragdoll. Just change them into bits

  • @arvidosmund5112
    @arvidosmund5112 2 роки тому

    Ah yes the famous schwickyshwag

  • @andreyrmap9496
    @andreyrmap9496 2 роки тому +1

    A little late, but I made it within the hour at least!

  • @Walker443
    @Walker443 2 роки тому

    Remember when the Pretty Boys Pocket Pistol sucked?

  • @jthablaidd
    @jthablaidd 2 роки тому

    Hey fish stick, may I use your bad weapon academy idea but for games like warzone or phantom forces? I promise to give you the credit for the idea in the beginning and end of each video

  • @flamewreathedfaceless7272
    @flamewreathedfaceless7272 2 роки тому

    i live for fish bites

  • @themelonzone38
    @themelonzone38 2 роки тому

    Incredible.

  • @paradoxicaloutcome1007
    @paradoxicaloutcome1007 2 роки тому

    28:26 is perfectly cut.

  • @azzlytheazzome
    @azzlytheazzome 2 роки тому +1

    Oh! This is a good time to tell that I met Senator Armstrong in TF2 yesterday.

  • @bakubaku4333
    @bakubaku4333 2 роки тому

    pyro would never say that..

  • @drinkingproblem8934
    @drinkingproblem8934 2 роки тому

    The damage fall-off arguement is balls
    There are maps that favor other classes already (like all of 5CP) and the many choke heavy maps or long range maps. So while it's not a great fix it's also not a bad idea
    Like, the danger of quickscopes are in the mid-range, where it's easy to hit 'em and the consistent damage that lets you kill shit insanely quickly
    The clip solution is still better tho