LG 27 5k ultrafine Monitor Repair - $1300 down the Toilet

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  • @scysimon
    @scysimon 2 роки тому +866

    This video is not a lesson. It's a warning for those potential buyers. Good job. We need this kind of video.

    • @TahaJelani
      @TahaJelani 2 роки тому +14

      Warnings can be lessons?

    • @theking-el4gf
      @theking-el4gf 2 роки тому +1

      Yes we do

    • @anro_gaming
      @anro_gaming 2 роки тому +8

      Expensive lesson for the owner of that monitor with no fix

    • @michaelblake2280
      @michaelblake2280 2 роки тому +3

      LG brand sucks!!

    • @angundrugilbert8469
      @angundrugilbert8469 2 роки тому +2

      LG company should improve on their electronic gadgets like the monitor screens.

  • @Alex.M.S.
    @Alex.M.S. 2 роки тому +248

    I think that the best solution for these monitors is to run an USB C extension cord outside the monitor. That way you can better secure the cable somewhere on the board and run the wires where the traces connect without having to restore the pads.

    • @jafargio
      @jafargio 2 роки тому +42

      The source of the problem could be that port is getting hot while in function and it wears/spoils pins. This method may not work :(

    • @ralphthemagician
      @ralphthemagician 2 роки тому +43

      @@jafargio This is correct in my experience. Thermal wear appears to be the primary cause of failure. Specifically, this display can send up to 94W back to the input device, and when it's doing this the connection becomes hot the the touch.

    • @Slicerwizard
      @Slicerwizard Рік тому

      @InSomnia DrEvil Fine, keep your dead monitor.

    • @marcellachine5718
      @marcellachine5718 Рік тому +23

      @InSomnia DrEvil?

    • @lamelama22
      @lamelama22 Рік тому +75

      The best solution would be a class action lawsuit and forced recall of defective devices and replacement with something not designed to fail as soon as the warranty expires.

  • @ozanpress
    @ozanpress 2 роки тому +208

    VGAs and DVIs had bolts on both sides of the connectors.. good old times

    • @MrJerrycocoetzee
      @MrJerrycocoetzee 2 роки тому +33

      Good point, i guess now its all about reducing the lifespan of the product in order to sell more and fund innovation.

    • @ryutenmen
      @ryutenmen 2 роки тому +11

      Yeah, hence the "they dont made them like they use to".

    • @Kabodanki
      @Kabodanki 2 роки тому +1

      DP has some teeth integrated

    • @Sensui_Shinobu
      @Sensui_Shinobu 2 роки тому +4

      @@Kabodanki but you can rip dp, vga and dvi is a imposible under normal condition

    • @paolomonai9511
      @paolomonai9511 2 роки тому +10

      @@MrJerrycocoetzee...fund innovations, destoying the enviroment, filling the landfill with electronic waste. If innovations price is this, I believe that they cannot be called innovetions...regards from Italy.

  • @realevostevo
    @realevostevo 2 роки тому +93

    My goodness, that area was absolutely falling apart. Valuable information Alex, thanx for sharing 👍

    • @NaveenJolster
      @NaveenJolster 2 роки тому

      This MF is a scammer. Don't reply.

  • @5nowChain5
    @5nowChain5 2 роки тому +22

    The ONLY fix for LG to avoid this is to mount the external connectors on a separate secure mounted daughter I/O board via a high density cable connector similar to those used in mobile phones/tablets. That way a cheap replacement I/O board could be designed with right angle ports and enable repairs or replacement without scrapping the entire device.
    Class action could be considered if this is more than 10% failure rate.

  • @tomcadero9875
    @tomcadero9875 2 роки тому +17

    My company actually uses the LG 5K monitors for our Graphic Designers. We haven't had any fail yet and We've been using them for roughly 4 years or so.. Maybe closer to 5. We have probably 12 or so people that use them.

  • @blagrag
    @blagrag 2 роки тому +12

    For that kind of an issue; i've had luck with getting a separate input component and just solder jumper wires and gluing the connector straight ontu the case, (not the nicest fix but it works to fix a monitor)

  • @Brocky93Ro
    @Brocky93Ro 2 роки тому +10

    that was still repairable, a lot of work to do it but repairable (some similar ripped pads were on ps5 and xbox videos) ... I think the customer would want to pay more for the repair rather than buying another monitor. Also the video was a good lesson for those who want to buy that model.

    • @MrDVDfanatic
      @MrDVDfanatic Рік тому

      Reparaible pins but next he had to fix the motherboard

  • @JonnyUnforeseen
    @JonnyUnforeseen 2 роки тому +22

    if you have that monitor you could just get a usb c male to USB c female cable, so you don't have to keep plugging it and unplugging it from that fragile port on the board.

    • @mexesrexes4495
      @mexesrexes4495 2 роки тому

      Read my mind👍

    • @18voltssenceny80
      @18voltssenceny80 2 роки тому

      All Depends on the Customers Experience with New Technology Systems

    • @davidlguerr
      @davidlguerr 2 роки тому +3

      I just can't understand why someone would connect and disconnect a 27" monitor all the time... Usually a monitor is something that is standing, you connect it once and that is it.

  • @lucymc0191
    @lucymc0191 2 роки тому +28

    great video alex ....you can tell the companies that build these things are very inferior its only because they want more money for less always the customer suffers its annoying and very unfair ...

    • @tyronenelson9124
      @tyronenelson9124 Рік тому +4

      Unfortunately all manufacturers are becoming like this greedy, and sly.

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 Рік тому

      But I thought they cared about climate change and saving the planet 🤣

  • @_CryptoNoob_
    @_CryptoNoob_ Рік тому +3

    Why do people feel the need to plug and unplug the monitor so frequently? I purchased a 1440k monitor like 5 years ago and I don't think I've ever unplugged it a single time. Just leave the cable connected to the monitor always to avoid causing this issue. Unplug the thunderbolt cable from the device end, not from the monitor. But, at this price point, there should definitely be more than one input for sure

  • @fullwaverecked
    @fullwaverecked 2 роки тому +179

    Amazing! Most shops would not be so honest in revealing a flawed product in this way because it might reduce customers with this defect. You guys have a rare quality called integrity... Good on you. Cheers!

    • @WardenOfTerra
      @WardenOfTerra Рік тому +6

      At the end of the day, a repaired item nets more money for repair shops. It would make no sense for him to not mention this.

    • @josephleichtnam836
      @josephleichtnam836 Рік тому +4

      @@WardenOfTerra I believe they mean that revealing a flawed product like this means they might get less people to buy the product which in turn would be less people coming in to have it repaired because they don't have it in the first place

    • @constitutionalright827
      @constitutionalright827 Рік тому +2

      @@josephleichtnam836 True, but in this case the issue is it can't be repaired. They get no joy from charging a diagnostic fee and putting time into a board only to have to tell a customer, sorry, can't be fixed. I mean that's the real issue here. It's not that they need repair so frequently, which is itself an issue... It's really that it can't be fixed, which makes the customer angry at the messenger when the root issue is the manufacturer and poor product engineering.

  • @deathtrap1976
    @deathtrap1976 2 роки тому +23

    Maybe it's worthy to leave a permanent short extension USB cable attached to the connector and plug/unplug the devices from there.

    • @BigEightiesNewWave
      @BigEightiesNewWave 2 роки тому +2

      Great idea. Best fix award.

    • @trym2121
      @trym2121 2 роки тому +1

      Yes. A daughter board or a custom board that can be connected using lvts or flex cable.

    • @deathtrap1976
      @deathtrap1976 2 роки тому +1

      @@BigEightiesNewWave It's just a way to avoid damaging the port, not a fix. If you leave a permanent cable, the USB won't be mistreated nor plug/unplug abused.

  • @Drone_Out
    @Drone_Out 2 роки тому +41

    A 200mm usb-c male to usb-c female cable would fix that issue if people tend to move the monitor often. And add a small support on the back of the monitor that holds the small extension cable.

    • @ericewaldklaver
      @ericewaldklaver 2 роки тому +13

      LG has to reconcider its disign in the first place.

    • @Drone_Out
      @Drone_Out 2 роки тому +5

      @@ericewaldklaver fully agree but for those that still buy it, have it and working could use this cheap solution to prevent an "Hiroshima" under the connector 😀

    • @mueffe1357
      @mueffe1357 2 роки тому +9

      Still can't imagined why people want to move a 27 inch monitor around. Moving a 23 inch is already a hassle.

    • @emptylog933
      @emptylog933 2 роки тому +7

      Adding support so it can't be tugged is the best suggestion. User probably tried to walk away with a connected laptop or something.

    • @madog1
      @madog1 2 роки тому

      @Drone OUT Good idea 👍
      But, how would anyone know to do it? When they buy a new monitor, they just use it they way it came. 99% + wouldn't even know or think to do it. Only tech savvy people (that watch this) would know about the problem. Then they would just avoid buying it. 😉

  • @nietscherarek
    @nietscherarek 2 роки тому +35

    On the current generation of Apple products they use a small custom USB-C daughter board that connects through a custom cable to the motherboard. Every port can be replaced should it fail mechanically. They know exactly that this stuff fails all the time.
    There should be a standard for that.
    They now standardized 40V 5A power and 80gbit/s data transfers and DisplayPort 2.0 through those USB-C connectors. This will get even more insane.

    • @vaualbus
      @vaualbus 2 роки тому

      Are you serious? They may have that thing in their sleeve, but apple is bad i how it designs his board. They are designed to fails as soon as an idea of liquid come in contact with them 😅

    • @crazyedo9979
      @crazyedo9979 2 роки тому

      Maybe they become liquid nitrogen cooled tomorrow?😁

    • @maklogetrich2378
      @maklogetrich2378 2 роки тому

      and they say usb-c is the future connector 😂

    • @bloeckmoep
      @bloeckmoep 2 роки тому +2

      @@graealex : It does not matter how stable the connector is soldered to the board, if the connector itself is an electro mechanical weakness from the very beginning. A usb c port is such weakness, 20 fine pins hold together by one ABS slab 0.6mm thick, mantled by a 0.2mm thick steel or aluminium pipe pressed in form, meant for thousands of plug in, unplug occurrences. It feels like the gadget industry is blindly retro evolving to the atari 5200 days where one cable was meant to deliver power as well as video signaling. Its a stupid design, prone to completely render a device functionless and useless all together. A standard or custom power connector for power, a standard or custom data connector for data, anything else is outright anti consumer. If you look at industrial design or more filigrane intermediate server side stuff, you will not find a single such thing having only 1 multi purpose connector. Heck, those things even come with two power supplies for redundancy, a multitude of service nics and a boatload of other useful features. You will not find a filigrane 20pin connector responsible for delivering power, input data and user interface and those devices usually see much less handling!

    • @nietscherarek
      @nietscherarek 2 роки тому +1

      @@vaualbus I mean even if you don't like Apple you can give them credit when they do something right.

  • @s1treyrr
    @s1treyrr 2 роки тому +3

    I have 2 of them and got them both used. Been going strong for 2 years since I got them. I just plug it in once and don't touch it, no problem. I'm also not a jackass and twisting the cable around.

  • @marknorton5951
    @marknorton5951 2 роки тому +87

    So many repairs featured here are for broken connectors and the lesson for users is clear. Treat these connectors with extreme care, minimise the number of connects/disconnects, push/pull the plugs at right-angles, use the minimum force required to make/break the connection.

    • @strawman9410
      @strawman9410 2 роки тому +12

      Good points yes, but like I said my initial post. Use an extension lead and only use that for swapping. A magnet connector would also be a good idea.

    • @LatitudeSky
      @LatitudeSky 2 роки тому +14

      Agree. I've had lots of HDMI gear and never, ever, once ripped out an HDMI connector. Not even sure how TO do that. Yet it's apparently one of the most common repairs, so regular people must be dragging their game consoles behind cars or something. Treated properly, no HDMI should ever yank out. Same with the endless broken Asus battery connector. I'm glad it keeps Alex employed but how people break this stuff is baffling.

    • @LiquidSnakeSSJ4
      @LiquidSnakeSSJ4 2 роки тому +8

      hotglue the connector to the plastic housing of the monitor itself and run a tiny little extension cable epoxied into the connector so it never comes out, but even then most normies aren't going to take the time to be careful and gently remove connectors or take care of their stuff, most people will always be rough with their devices. it's only those who mechanically understand and appreciate the process involved in looking after your things won't have any issues. we do live in a modern society where things aren't built to last anymore, which is a shame when some elderly folks have a microwave / fridge freezer from the 1970s that still works today

    • @TerryLawrence001
      @TerryLawrence001 2 роки тому +4

      @@LatitudeSky I have witnessed a few incidents where HDMI connectors were ripped out. It always involved parties with alcoholic beverages in the cases that I saw.

    • @dave7244
      @dave7244 2 роки тому +9

      No Mark the lessons is for companies not to make something that is obviously going to start failing after a year.

  • @dorbie
    @dorbie 2 роки тому +5

    So disappointed you didn't repair the connector pads. The other approach is don't connect and remove the type-C connector repeatedly. Connect & disconnect it at the Computer end and hopefully this won't happen. Looks like they need a more robust connector than the one they chose. Lead-free probably doesn't help either.

    • @davidlguerr
      @davidlguerr 2 роки тому

      A PC monitor is not designed to be subject to user abuse. Unless it is some kind of military screen, it shouldn't have to windstand frequent cable connect/disconnect. If it had cracked solder joints, I would blame LG, but not in this case.

  • @TaylanEkinci
    @TaylanEkinci 2 роки тому +7

    Couldn't the extension cord be soldered instead of the socket? maybe it doesn't look good but it maybe works.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 Рік тому

      Apparently heat could be the issue. The same connector delivers power too.

  • @laptopDoctorKZN
    @laptopDoctorKZN 2 роки тому +5

    I would cut the traces from one of the working ports. And the us enamel wires form broken port to other port. It's a bit jank.. but it worked

  • @strawman9410
    @strawman9410 2 роки тому +75

    A simple fix would be to buy a extension lead. And only use the extension lead for swapping.
    A magnet connector would also extend the life.

    • @bryanlatimer-davies1222
      @bryanlatimer-davies1222 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed I always use a short extension lead in this sort of case, but it only works if you do it from new!

    • @dsfs17987
      @dsfs17987 2 роки тому +9

      how about not using cheap ass solution to critical component on the board? you can see cold through hole solder joints for that connector, so most likely the whole series of them boards are bad, that mechanical linkage of the case of the connector starts moving when the solder fails and that then leads to ripped off pads, to be honest - this should be factory recall, that board costs maybe 40-50$ to LG, it should have been offered as a free upgrade to a 1000++$ device, it is ridiculous how bad the designs are for some of this expensive equipment, and morons are buying them because the monthly lease payment is small
      the whole design/manufacturing chain is broken these days, at the same time they are touting that we must reduce carbon footprint and what not, while them themselves are the sole reason for all the expensive garbage in the landfills

    • @TechnologyMove
      @TechnologyMove 2 роки тому

      I was thinking the same thing 🙂. This is a solution for every board that is used constantly for plug/unplug.

    • @tonyhoff5695
      @tonyhoff5695 2 роки тому +3

      Yes I agree. But we should be able to use a device without worrying about plugging a lead in and out in all fairness.
      It's not a cheap monitor....!

    • @SCorpG22
      @SCorpG22 2 роки тому +6

      This is what I do on games consoles that I wish to swap in and out of the TV. If the 20cm hdmi extender breaks, then it's just a case of buy another, rather than wear and tear on the port itself.

  • @imqqmi
    @imqqmi 2 роки тому +6

    It's such a waste to cheap out on properly supported connectors like this. Hopefully LG will get such a hit on their image to never do it again, but I'm not holding my breath.
    I've got a 500 euro 24" panel from HP 13 years ago and it's still working perfectly. The 23" dell next to it was half that and 12 years okd and still working!
    I have older monitors that are working still, even a 14" crt, needed recapping but after that still works perfectly after 30+ years.

    • @davidlguerr
      @davidlguerr 2 роки тому

      I do not think the connectors are cheaply designed, and they seem to have proper support. The one to blame for is the user.

    • @orange11squares
      @orange11squares 2 роки тому

      idiotic design by LG.

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 2 роки тому +11

    Very sad =( What this needs is a small PCB (like the PS4 HDMI Patch PCB by Andrew Paul) - ie, something you can solder in place above the vias and traces, solder on easily. Then fit a different type of thunderbolt connector onto that (one that's easier to mount maybe...). If its a common fault it might be worth the time to design a small PCB for this. Certainly if this screen is $1300!

  • @petrberanek4230
    @petrberanek4230 Рік тому +1

    Real fault here is USB-C connector itself. You can secure connector in place using solder, putty or epoxy, but you can always wiggle middle part which will break solder pads under the connector, with connector still secured in place using its metal shielding. Middle plastic part of USB-C connector is too fragile, this type of connector can break easily if you do not connect and disconnect USB-C cable very carefully and tilt it to any side when doing so. Display Port connector is much more resistant against mechanical damage. I have seen many USB-C connector with damaged middle part which resulted to broken traces on PCB similar to this case. Damages VGA, DP or DVI connector - none. Damaged HDMI and USB-C connectors - plenty. When the middle part of connector is moving, it usually mean damaged traces to pcb.

  • @BLiNKx86
    @BLiNKx86 2 роки тому +6

    Great work as always! I noticed you were heating from the opposite end of the board where there were a few small capacitors. Will those small capacitors not 'fall off' with gravity once heated?

  • @DementedEeyore64
    @DementedEeyore64 2 роки тому +24

    I had this monitor. It definitely lasted me more than 2 years, but it still had other problems. The LG panels used in this monitor are highly prone to image retention issues after about 1 year.

  • @Blackdog4818
    @Blackdog4818 Рік тому +6

    My LG monitor failed after 11 years, but I bought an LG OLED TV now and I'm wondering how long it will last. Great channel. I used to put radio kits together with my dad in the 1970's, and I was able to solder my remote for my garage after changing the battery after 20 years, and it being corroded. (Still worked though). The 9 volt battery socket had 2 wires, one of which pulled out of the solder. But I got the old solder kit out and put it back together. The replacement would have cost me $400 dollars because they didn't make this older model, and would have had to replace the whole electronic system.

  • @mikebarber1
    @mikebarber1 2 роки тому +3

    I've got two of these monitors, purchased in April of 2017.
    One monitor is still functioning "normally", the other monitor has a few rows of bad pixels on the lower third of the screen.
    Both screens suffer from Image retention, usually noticed when a bright object has been on the screen for a few minutes and you switch to a dark screen.
    I suspect the reason I have been free of the problems outlined in the video is both monitors are on a monitor arm and all cables are wire tied to the stand limiting any movement on the connector.

  • @trollied
    @trollied 2 роки тому +8

    I think the answer is to just leave the cable plugged in all the time, and attach it to the monitor slightly away from the port so that it cannot move

  • @jmorv8866
    @jmorv8866 2 роки тому +8

    Yes, extended warranties are the way to go with something like this. If there is a failure, that warranty basically means that you will get a new board, which further acknowledges that the manufacturer made a mistake in the design, they can't fix it themselves and it's easier to replace the whole board over one small error in design judgement.

    • @bobrickner5900
      @bobrickner5900 2 роки тому +5

      My guess is if and when you turn that in for the "extended warranty" they are going to say that is abuse and not cover it anyway. Very common on electronics if it is something like this.

  • @malcellery1538
    @malcellery1538 2 роки тому +4

    When you heated from the back of the board to reflow the connector how do you avoid sending the components on the back of the board (c129 for example) to the ninth dimension?

    • @stephencrowe4855
      @stephencrowe4855 2 роки тому

      The surface tension of the molten solder is usually enough to hold the components in place.

  • @stevebarbier5602
    @stevebarbier5602 Рік тому +1

    That would be fixed free in the UK under our consumer laws...............Goods must be fit for purpose for up to six years...............especially with a known fault !!!!!

  • @hphp7587
    @hphp7587 2 роки тому +6

    Here in india we get warranty for 3 years on monitors. But I'm not sure if port damage is considered misuse and is not covered by warranty.

    • @milosdjeric2495
      @milosdjeric2495 2 роки тому +2

      If so let show the Lg what customers think about their doings.Only one input port for monitor that cost 1300$ are you kidding me??

    • @mueffe1357
      @mueffe1357 2 роки тому +1

      I don't think manufactures give warranty on ripped circuit board traces.

    • @mihaipopescu90
      @mihaipopescu90 2 роки тому +2

      why i am reading this comment with an indian accent LOL

  • @IgorTFerreira
    @IgorTFerreira 2 місяці тому

    UNBELIEVABLE even Apple is still selling

  • @minipolenet
    @minipolenet 2 роки тому +14

    I also have first 21.5" model. It was the smallest 4K monitor on the market at the time. Contrary to the perception that pro monitors are rugged, this should be treated like a baby. Originally, Apple was going to hand over the Mac monitor business to LG, but LG's monitors were so flawed that it sparked Apple's decision to return to the monitor business. Aside from all the flaws, the screen quality is superb.

  • @CTCTraining1
    @CTCTraining1 2 роки тому +4

    Thx Alex, very sad for all that waste.
    Does anyone know if there are such things as class action lawsuits for poor design?

  • @divingbike
    @divingbike 2 роки тому +2

    Now many electronical products moved to USB-C to power up things or to connect them. This is completely crap expecially when you have 19v near data lines. If this tiny connector fails, you get 19v on data tracks. And this is the end of your nice expensive product. And now EU community setup USB-C as a standard power-in connector for all the phones in EU, so you can use a single power supply for all your stuff, phones, notebook, etc. This is crazy. That connector is really sick.

  • @pythongrape6774
    @pythongrape6774 2 роки тому +4

    I have an LG 27 5k ultrafine that I purchased in Dec 2016 - it still works. It was standing on my desk and the input cable did not move much for most of the time. For the last 2 years it is mounted on a Vesa mount arm and the input cable is held firmly to that arm, so does not move. I suppose this is why my monitor did not fail (yet). It did have some intermittent flickering but very rarely.

    • @sstreet9436
      @sstreet9436 2 роки тому +2

      I have the same. My LG 5k Ultrafine has 8700 hours (according to the information panel); Its been on a monitor arm nearly its whole life with the same cable plugged and routed through the wiring holders. The connector sees little movement and since I have Mac Minis (now the m1 version) connected, has never provided power. 4+ years no issues.

  • @tonymontana897
    @tonymontana897 2 роки тому +1

    Shame on LG for this blatant planned obsolescence. It's almost criminal they could design such a flaw into what is a Glorified PC monitor.
    As a sign f good faith, LG should warranty all these rubbish screens and hopefully future customers can steer clear of LG products.
    Monitors should last 10 years at least. This is unacceptable.

  • @robdom91
    @robdom91 Рік тому +4

    These faults have been going on for a while. I built my previous PC in 2012 and got "the best" monitor for it at the time. Of course it was an LG and of course by "the best", they meant picture quality. They did not tell me I will have to get a new monitor in two years. If they did, I wouldn't have wasted a third of my build budget on POS monitor like that. My local repair guy didn't even touch it even though they specialized in monitor repair. They said it's a chip issue and those cannot be fixed...

  • @mihaipopescu90
    @mihaipopescu90 2 роки тому +1

    my monitor has 4 inputs, 2 hdmi , 2 displayports, why the f word they make monitor with that stupid connector

  • @cox081
    @cox081 2 роки тому +6

    Alex I love watching you work and hearing you tell it how it is, you are one of the best personalities on YT. Keep it up!

  • @BloederKingTV
    @BloederKingTV 2 роки тому +1

    Why is the manufacturer not putting this video connector on a cable and hooking it up to the board via another connector while telling the customers to open the monitor by themselves to exchange the connector after the guarantee expired? Because they want you idiot to buy a new monitor!

  • @beto12345
    @beto12345 2 роки тому +4

    I'll be super scared working on that board blowing from the back because the amount of small caps and diodes, and resistors from there.... And thanks for the advice, I'm coming to avoid that monitor.

  • @moes2168
    @moes2168 2 роки тому +1

    The Thunderbolt cable/plug on these monitors need to be braced (it's a poor design to begin with). I use zip tie mounts and secure them with double sided tape. Then leave some slack on the cable and secure it to the monitors so any movement in the cable does not transfer to the plug.
    The constant tugging and downward force applied to the plug is what is causing the socket to fail and pull away from the pad.
    Anyone who still has this monitor and is working, do this now.

  • @lurkerrekrul
    @lurkerrekrul Рік тому +5

    What about all those little surface-mounted components on the board, right where you applied the heat? If you're applying enough heat to the underside to melt solder on the top side of the board, wouldn't it also melt the solder holding all of those parts as well? And since that's the underside of the board, wouldn't they then just fall off as the solder melts?

    • @dylanbyrne9591
      @dylanbyrne9591 Рік тому

      What about them?

    • @batman8589
      @batman8589 Рік тому +1

      The surface tension of the solder will keep them in place as long as you dont blow them off with the hot air gun.

  • @akasickform
    @akasickform Рік тому +1

    This is all down to poor design.
    If they created a aux board with the connector on the entire connector and aux PCB could be easily removed and replaced.
    But of course, they won't do this as its cheaper to do it this way and of course means you need to buy a new one out of warranty or spend even more of your hard earned cash covering it for when stuff like this happens

  • @ApocDevTeam
    @ApocDevTeam 2 роки тому +3

    In the zoomed in part at 3:53 looks like the soldering on the large left support leg was cracked as well. So my guess is that if you plug this thing in too much it will loosen / crack the soldering which eventually severs the connections.

  • @pbee73
    @pbee73 Рік тому +1

    Why the need to constantly remove the cable and plug it back in? if you need to do that for whatever reason, I suggest using a short thunderbolt cable and leave that attached to the TV. This way you are not constantly pulling on the MB connector and damaging it like you see in this video.

  • @Hogdriva
    @Hogdriva 2 роки тому +15

    LG at it again. Just found your channel, big fan from what I've seen. Inspiring me to get better at soldering :)

    • @spectraleggings
      @spectraleggings 2 роки тому

      meanwhile their entry-level ultrawide is serving me since 2016... ridiculous

    • @someoneinasia
      @someoneinasia 2 роки тому

      i'm using dell monitor from 2013 still working fine as today.
      there is a slight yellowing at the 4 corner but it is only visible when in max brightness and on plain white screen.

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 2 роки тому

      i wonder why they stopped doing phones.... lol

    • @hightttech
      @hightttech 2 роки тому +1

      @@onomatopoeia162003: Probably because you and I only ones buying them 😉.

  • @meadowsirl
    @meadowsirl 2 роки тому +1

    I feel 4 of those pads just needed to be flattened down with a bit of UV mask. I think you could have impressed us with this one, I know you are a busy man but I think you have repaired worse.

  • @jmaurice
    @jmaurice Рік тому +4

    I own several of these monitors and at one time or another I had to send them all back to LG for repair. Fortunately they were all covered under warranty and all repaired within a few days back to me. I love these monitors and have used them for many years without issue after the initial port replacement.

    • @TheGuruStud
      @TheGuruStud Рік тому +3

      b/c they replaced the board lol

  • @theowink
    @theowink Рік тому +1

    My lg oled 2018 55 inch has burned -in marks.
    I was aware and still it happened.
    Never,never LG oled again!

  • @N0G0MAIL
    @N0G0MAIL 2 роки тому +4

    One good solution will be to solder directly a cable and secure it to the board with glue :))))

  • @lhxperimental
    @lhxperimental Рік тому +1

    If it was my monitor, I would cut open a thunderbolt cable and solder individual wires directly to the traces. It need not be soldered right at the connector pads, that would be mighty difficult. But the traces travel elsewhere so I would scratch the solder mask and solder the wire there.

  • @ghostraider4312
    @ghostraider4312 2 роки тому +3

    Im pretty sure the engineers at LG intentionally made this monitor to last a few years. Well how else are they gonna get money. 💸

    • @ryutenmen
      @ryutenmen 2 роки тому

      All manufacturers try to this "trick" of planned obsolescence and they try to hide it as best as possible. Its the quintessential of business, aka capitalism.

  • @lullylew9083
    @lullylew9083 Рік тому +1

    Aaah modern technology. I use a Trinitron for retro gaming. It's almost 30 years old and still works really well. Weird eh? "Save the planet!!" "But here's technology that's designed to break down in a year or two!!"

  • @mueffe1357
    @mueffe1357 2 роки тому +3

    Atleast old monitors have 2 inputs like vga and Dvi-d. Usb-c apparently is the ONLY future connector now. Prev monitor connector designs are big bc connector were tend to be mishandled. The smd upright connector design is flawed from the start. Other than convenience to plug-in stuff which will lead to this kind of damage.

    • @Doman2000
      @Doman2000 2 роки тому

      It is the same with the move to USB-C for charging too.
      How long will it last over a few years with the constant abuse/stress of plugging.

  • @filipsz6728
    @filipsz6728 2 роки тому +1

    With 1300 buks you can buy Samsung curved 49" monitor which is a size of two 27" monitors.

  • @briang.7206
    @briang.7206 Рік тому +3

    Excellent advice for both buyers and shop owners. When you are in business for yourself you have to always consider time spent.

  • @pattskatoey3139
    @pattskatoey3139 Рік тому +1

    A real shame they make things not to last. I can’t see myself spending that amount of money on a monitor.

  • @bkaczy
    @bkaczy 2 роки тому +4

    My idea is to build an flex extension cable - and the USB-C/THB connector shoud be put outside - of course that could be very time consuming job - but prevent future mechanical shock. Anyway thx Alex to share your experience! The new Microscope is superb!

    • @gordonwelcher9598
      @gordonwelcher9598 2 роки тому

      I am not sure if a male pcb mount Thunderbolt connector is available.

    • @bkaczy
      @bkaczy 2 роки тому

      @@gordonwelcher9598 I think about seperating the female connector off the board. So any tension could be not connected with signal pads...Just give any Noble prize who invented this LG board and THB sockets!

  • @888snuffy
    @888snuffy Рік тому +1

    Bad design engineering of late. Smaller doesn't always mean better , especially power and input connectors .

  • @bhoot1702
    @bhoot1702 2 роки тому +3

    Just one USB C input! Really?!

  • @Shmbler
    @Shmbler Рік тому +1

    Lever principle. I would have thought that these engineers heard about that. What a catastrophic design.

  • @Paperghost
    @Paperghost 2 роки тому +5

    It seems that manufacturers have forgotten the basics of design when it comes to customer accessible connectors: If it can be broken, it will get broken. The solution is to strengthen how the connectors are anchored to a board or even better have them on a breakout board or as standalone component anchored to the case of the product. Of course, this will increase manufacturing time and costs but the long-term savings for the manufacturer, consumer and planet are huge.

    • @Tomigrabi
      @Tomigrabi 2 роки тому +1

      They know exactly what they are doing... ☹

    • @orange11squares
      @orange11squares 2 роки тому

      @@Tomigrabi yep, they don't give a crap about the planet, all they want is money.

  • @joesammy4343
    @joesammy4343 2 роки тому +1

    absolutely designed to fail ...lg is not going to get my money...thanks

  • @stephenbraddy9925
    @stephenbraddy9925 Рік тому +9

    I really like your style, very straightforward and confident. You clearly have a lot of talent and experience. You are a great teacher, and you make great videos. Thank you sir.

  • @DenverStarkey
    @DenverStarkey Рік тому +1

    i'd never pay more than 300 bucks for a monitor any way. much less 1300.

  • @robear0135
    @robear0135 2 роки тому +5

    LG has always had the nickname in the industry as Lucky if it Goes...

    • @ashleyjaytanna1953
      @ashleyjaytanna1953 2 роки тому +2

      First time I'm hearing of this.

    • @robear0135
      @robear0135 2 роки тому +1

      @@ashleyjaytanna1953 Hi Ashlry, we say it a lot in Australia as LG used to be a company called Goldstair and it was the crappiest Electronic devices you could get...

    • @matt.604
      @matt.604 2 роки тому

      Lucky Goldstar is where LG comes from.

  • @robwebnoid5763
    @robwebnoid5763 Рік тому +1

    This is what happens when the electronics industry decides to miniaturize systems down even further to the point of not using through-hole mounted parts anymore that could help strengthen the stability of these parts onto the pcb. The owner of that monitor could possibly find someone to do some micro-surgical modifications & run wires to a differently-mounted thunderbolt connector that could be bolted down somewhere else, so that you don't waste the money on the monitor.

    • @Sugurain
      @Sugurain Рік тому

      Hahah, I just made the same suggestion. I'm glad I wasn't the only one to think about it!

  • @sublime2craig
    @sublime2craig Рік тому +1

    I work at a Ups Store and I see at least 2-4 LG monitors being returned to Amazon etc every month. Its crazy that LG monitor's are that unreliable!

  • @HazeAnderson
    @HazeAnderson 2 роки тому +5

    The precision probes are EXCELLENT! I must confess I was a bit shocked when I first received them at the size of the handles, how small they were. But what was I expecting? They are micro probes!! They do look much larger in your videos however. 😏

  • @xFrozenxSnowx
    @xFrozenxSnowx Рік тому +1

    Power and signal on the same connector. Great on paper. Built for mac users🤪

  • @melstead3981
    @melstead3981 2 роки тому +13

    My wife use to work at a call center and she always told friends and family to "Stay away from LG"! LG should be ashamed of themselves. Alex, thank you for teaching the technical side of why to stay away. I look forward to each and every video. Your integrity shows through at all times. Thank you. Greetings from Ontario Canada

    • @sylviam6535
      @sylviam6535 2 роки тому +1

      My 22” LG monitor died after 12 years now. My 27” monitors have been going for seven years now. Not one dead pixel or problem, used every day. These were fairly cheap monitors as well.

    • @Dandan-tg6tj
      @Dandan-tg6tj 2 роки тому +1

      I own an LG monitor and is wonderful. It's 4 or 5 years old and it didn't have any problem at all. Apart from some LG produscts do you care to say something about some certain ASUS laptops, certain HP laptops who effectively had literally half of the air admission path covered by a piece of plastic or about some certain Macbook Pros? Everybody makes products which are really bad for customers.

  • @theshuff
    @theshuff 2 роки тому +1

    This a manufacture problem that should be taken under garantee. pcb layer is peeling like toilet paper :D

  • @ryansteve8739
    @ryansteve8739 2 роки тому +3

    I really wanted to see Alex attempt to fix these pads, I know he is one of the only guys who can actually do this job.

    • @bigmann120
      @bigmann120 2 роки тому

      Right. I believe that Alex could have fixed that based on that Xbox video just a few days ago.

    • @5nowChain5
      @5nowChain5 2 роки тому

      I think there's a couple of guys at RossmannRepair that could as well, but i suspect they wouldn't be having a fun job of it.

  • @davidlguerr
    @davidlguerr 2 роки тому +1

    Why do people connect and disconnect the Thunderbolt port all the time?

  • @joelbbc
    @joelbbc 2 роки тому +3

    Modif to external port conector 🙏

    • @psi23k
      @psi23k 2 роки тому

      Yes. He should do this.

    • @Veruzax
      @Veruzax 2 роки тому +1

      still... its lots of works.

    • @joelbbc
      @joelbbc 2 роки тому

      @@Veruzax I think so

  • @shanicehagert
    @shanicehagert Рік тому +1

    Damn I just threw one out yesterday and this channel popped up in my suggestions

  • @ZaPpaul
    @ZaPpaul 2 роки тому +7

    I connect and disconnect the cable from my monitor maybe once or twice in its lifetime. I don't think it's an issue for most users.

    • @ashleyjaytanna1953
      @ashleyjaytanna1953 2 роки тому +1

      It's an issue for me

    • @fd3871
      @fd3871 2 роки тому +1

      @@ashleyjaytanna1953 get a usb-c male to usb-c female cable then, or a hub, or one of those magnetic usb-c end adapters. anything to prevent you from having to plug in / out of an expensive device.

    • @moonmoonbh
      @moonmoonbh 2 роки тому +2

      Sometimes it's hard to tell user error from manufacturer defects. If the pads were coming off due to the heat produced from day to day use regardless of repeated unplug/plugging or some other defect in manufacturing causing those pads/traces to come off over time then this is something that the manufacturer should be responsible for fixing in their QA. Considering that the port was still in-tact and the support soldering joints aren't broken when it came into the shop for a fix, I would suspect this isn't user error that caused the pads under the port to come off and it is a design/manufacturing issue.

    • @morpheus9137
      @morpheus9137 2 роки тому

      @@moonmoonbh Given the port case was bent, I'm 50/50, it looks like its had lot flex but not enough to break the larger connections. I agree LG has cheaped out though, there should be 4 inputs and ideally they wouldn't all be usb c either.

  • @KoolBreeze420
    @KoolBreeze420 Рік тому +1

    Why are they taking it in and out though? Is heat just unsoldering it?

  • @inseries5494
    @inseries5494 Рік тому +1

    this applies to all LG devices--avoid like plaque

  • @hmmhmm5431
    @hmmhmm5431 2 роки тому +2

    An extension chord may solve the problem......as one end is always remain constant in that port which is very weak ,it doesn't move .......we can use the other end for frequent attaching and removing.......

  • @kalidesu
    @kalidesu 2 роки тому +2

    Apple pushing LG to innovate, think different. 🤤

  • @my-yt-inputs2580
    @my-yt-inputs2580 Рік тому +1

    Wow.....looks like this LG needs a recall.

  • @aelaan12
    @aelaan12 2 роки тому +1

    Alex: You just saved my cousin 800 bucks, he was dead set on this monitor and they are on sale. I told him that there are better monitors out there but he said this one was 5k and ultrafine for his business as photographer. I just send him this. I think the traces break because of the heat that is coming through that thunderbolt 3 connector as it provides, I believe up to 94 watts to the laptop to have it charged. That is the main problem, as I see it. Way too much heat going through that little connector softening the connectors. Also the cable provided by LG is too short as a lot of the newer macbooks only have ports on the left. Also this monitor is able to turn into portrait mode which, again, puts enormous pull on the port. I think this monitor is indeed something to be very careful with, almost baby it.

  • @manuelbbraun
    @manuelbbraun 2 роки тому +1

    5 years no problem with daily usage

  • @ChannelReuploads9451
    @ChannelReuploads9451 2 роки тому +2

    If there are that many failures surely LG should be replacing the unit due to manufacturing fault.

    • @MrShadow1617
      @MrShadow1617 2 роки тому

      Unless they only provide 1 year warranty in the US and those monitors without extended 3 year warranty are failing shortly after a year. Which would mean customers outside of warranty will not be taken in by LG for repair/replacement.

    • @HoldFastFilms
      @HoldFastFilms 2 роки тому

      How is this manufacturing fault though? If someone yanks on the cable and rips the port and traces, that’s completely their fault.

    • @geraldv203
      @geraldv203 2 роки тому

      This kind of flaws does not happen at the manufacturing stage, but earlier, at the design stage. And this is why it could be intentional. Problem : how can a customer can prove that (in another way that opening the device), and how can the user can prove that he handled the device with care?

  • @NaveenJolster
    @NaveenJolster 2 роки тому

    Poor design from LG. That type c connector is not L shaped like in mobile phones. Its a straight connector soldered to the pcb. A small amount of force or a accidental cable pull will totally damage the pads under the connector. A massive e-waste no more no less.

  • @MrFlashdaemon
    @MrFlashdaemon 10 місяців тому +1

    Mine lasts 3 years already and it's fine. Ultra fine.

  • @pierpi6715
    @pierpi6715 2 роки тому +1

    Really the solution seems not to buy those monitors. They cost a premium price and clearly not build to last.
    The connector itself may have come from a good idea but it is clearly unable to provide the mechanical support needee for the job.

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 2 роки тому +2

    LG should issue new-upgraded monitors to people , that sucks.

  • @_EmptyBox_
    @_EmptyBox_ 2 роки тому +2

    How often was this monitor being moved, plugged in etc? I'm always astounded by the connector damage you see.

  • @umeng2002
    @umeng2002 Рік тому +1

    The 2nd input is a $100 DLC.

  • @DAVIDBLADE94NVIDIA
    @DAVIDBLADE94NVIDIA 2 роки тому +2

    NorthridgeFix I have a question :
    I have a LG 27UK600 4K
    have you encountered problems with this particular model in the past? 😅
    there are only two HDMIs, and only one display port. I bought it on 11 November 2018. it continues has work perfectly.

  • @AndehX
    @AndehX 2 роки тому +2

    When you said "if there are missing pads, im gonna deem it a no fix" my initial thought was: well you've fixed HDMI ports that were absolute Hiroshima's, so whats different about this? Then I saw the mess and how small the area was, and I also thought to myself, no way I'd waste my time trying to fix that.
    What an absolute failure of a monitor by LG.
    If it is indeed just a port issue (and there's nothing wrong elsewhere on the board)... I think the best way to fix that would be to relocate the port somewhere else and run jumper wires, so that you don't risk damaging that area any more than it already is.

    • @stefaniamuratori2847
      @stefaniamuratori2847 2 роки тому +2

      HDMI ports are 3 times bigger than usb-c ones. Immagine how small that tracers are. That board needs a surgeon not a technician

  • @hateganvictor
    @hateganvictor 2 роки тому +1

    Please repair more monitors. I also had an ultra wide from Philips, 34 inch which failed exactly after 2 years from when I first powered it on. Of course, no warranty was provided.

  • @randomkitty2555
    @randomkitty2555 2 роки тому +2

    That's the problem with small ports, sure the cable is smaller and thinner but it sacrifices durability.
    You can move the cable for VGA, DVI and Displayports and it's not gonna mess up the port.

  • @DVD013009
    @DVD013009 29 днів тому

    Since you asked - I’ve had this monitor since 2018.
    Apart from a case where I bent a thunderbolt cable in the port because I hadn’t left enough slack in my monitor arm, this display has had zero issues. I keep wanting to “upgrade” it but can’t justify it because it just keeps working and few monitors surpass it.