Playing Outside - Side slipping - Outside Jazz Approaches

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
  • Playing outside is a mysterious skill that many improvisers go looking for to add surprise (or shock) to their solos. One fairly easy approach to playing outside is called side slipping or side stepping and that is what I am going to go over in this lesson.
    How to play outside is a question of choosing material that is away from what you are playing over and also working on good ways to get outside and to get back inside in a melodic way. Sideslipping is a great approach for more melodic outside ideas.
    The lesson has a few exercises and some theory, but also some outside jazz licks,
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  • @JoeSmith322
    @JoeSmith322 8 років тому +7

    Excited to learn more about outside playing... It's something that I wanted to add to my solo-repertoire for a long time

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому +1

      +johann meister Great Johann! I hope you van put it to use!

  • @ovimpendingdoom8604
    @ovimpendingdoom8604 8 років тому +3

    I have almost none musical theory experience,but your videos help me out and i trying to imply jazzy licks into my metal playing.Thanks Jens!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому +2

      +Ovimpendingdoom That's really cool! Great to hear that you can use the video's!

    • @ovimpendingdoom8604
      @ovimpendingdoom8604 8 років тому +1

      Always loved Jazz playing, but i could never sound like a Jazz player,hopefully some day i will manage.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому +1

      Ovimpendingdoom I am sre you will if you keep at it and listen to jazz

  • @UlliMueller
    @UlliMueller 8 років тому +7

    Great lesson Jens, really well done, thank you!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому

      +Ulli Mueller Thank you Ulli! Glad you like it!

  • @ArgentinaGuitar
    @ArgentinaGuitar 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Jens! Great lesson!

  • @emilyknight9627
    @emilyknight9627 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for this lesson, i've heard many players do this and this has really cleared things up

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  5 років тому +1

      Thank you! I am glad you found it useful! 👍

  • @Jason.Brayshaw
    @Jason.Brayshaw 8 років тому +1

    I learn something new all the time in jazz guitar. Would never have thought of doing this. Many thanks!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому

      +Jason Brayshaw you're welcome Jason!

  • @inafern
    @inafern 8 років тому +1

    this one was especially helpful, so true that practicing this is easier over static harmonies

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому

      Yes it makes much more sense if you don't have to resolve before the chord changes every bar :D

  • @voronOsphere
    @voronOsphere 3 роки тому

    Thanks, Jens! Great 60's style jazz vamp, too! EDIT: I love the inside outside inside parts!!!! Thanks, again, Jens!!!!

  • @JohnSmithiuyytw
    @JohnSmithiuyytw 5 років тому +2

    This stuff is new to me but your explaining it really well.
    So much fun to be had :)

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  5 років тому

      You're very welcome! I am glad you like it! 🙂

    • @JohnSmithiuyytw
      @JohnSmithiuyytw 5 років тому +1

      @@JensLarsen Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @JackMovestunes
    @JackMovestunes 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Jens!

  • @ThomasVammenJensen
    @ThomasVammenJensen 8 років тому +2

    Hej Jens. I eksemplet med Ab dorisk, har du skrevet at det er det samme som en F durskala. Bare et heads up, så du kan få det rettet.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому

      +Thomas Vammen Jensen Tak Thomas! Jeg kan faktisk ikke rette i videoen, men Jeg kan fikse det i PDF og på mit website. ☺

  • @DiegoCavalliDC
    @DiegoCavalliDC 8 років тому +1

    Great Jens!! Thanks!!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому +1

      +Diego Cavalli You're welcome Diego!

  • @scottbookman
    @scottbookman 7 років тому +1

    you are one of the finest teachers...the way you explain things make it seem obtainable ...and you are a killer player...thanks !

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      +scott b You are very welcome! I am glad you found the video useful!

  • @tripp8833
    @tripp8833 4 роки тому

    This sounds amazing too - do you know any artists who do this a lot for guitar? It sounds Cosmic

    • @wadsmitter511
      @wadsmitter511 3 роки тому

      Most jazz and fusion guitarists do this. The king of playing outside would probably be Allan Holdsworth. Check out his solo on "The devil take the hindmost"

  • @Ana_crusis
    @Ana_crusis 4 роки тому +2

    when you show the Ab Dorian scale it says ( in fact an F major scale) surely it ought to say an F# major scale ( or a Gb major scale) ?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 роки тому

      Yeah, that's just a typo

    • @Ana_crusis
      @Ana_crusis 4 роки тому +1

      @@JensLarsen Oh I know. I just thought you might not have spotted it.

  • @rxctr
    @rxctr 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks, really helpfull!

  • @Ubersil
    @Ubersil 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the lesson. Question - shouldn't the key signature of Gm7 have an Eb in it?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  6 років тому +2

      You're very welcome! Well Yes and no, the key if G minor has two flats, but Gm7 is not a tonic chord 🙂

    • @Ubersil
      @Ubersil 6 років тому

      Gotcha. So the tonic here is F major or D minor?

    • @ricknelsteel
      @ricknelsteel 4 роки тому

      @@Ubersil It's Gm dorian mode so yes 2nd mode of Fmaj

  • @MoNsTa4DuB
    @MoNsTa4DuB 7 років тому +2

    interesting i have a similar approach i think this is more structured though! I

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому +1

      Side slipping is a very common device to play outside so that is not so surprising 🙂

  • @opiekundps8806
    @opiekundps8806 8 років тому +1

    Yesterday I tried to play outside (I composed licks in Guitar Pro)
    but everything what I created sounds awful and I dont know why
    probably I am doing something wrong

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому +1

      +Opiekun Dps Patience is important when learning

    • @opiekundps8806
      @opiekundps8806 8 років тому

      +Jens Larsen I have another problem which I discovered yesterday
      Basic three major scales are ionian, lydian and mixolydian,
      what happens when we mix them together?
      We get nine-point scale c,d,e,f,f#,g,a,a#,b
      How to play under major chord C major using this scale?
      Which of these steps will be the fifth/dominant?
      F# or g (which is the sixth' in this scale)
      Which of these steps will be the fourth/sub dominant?
      F or f#(which is the fifth ' in this scale)

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому +2

      Opiekun Dps That's just a scale with some passing notes. You are better off trying to get good at playing C major scales and understanding what a key is so you don't run off with unimportant synthetical constructions like this.
      Don't mean to sound harsh, but you are potentially wasting your time by getting lost in pseudo theory with this.

    • @opiekundps8806
      @opiekundps8806 8 років тому +1

      +Jens Larsen "...scale with some passing notes".
      Passing notes...but if I play in lydian ,passing note is f
      and if I start play in ionian then f# become passing notes...
      The same with sounds b and ais .
      Right now I dont have guitar so ,I spend time on theory :)

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому

      Then spend time on analyzing music not coming up with vague constructions. You will learn more...

  • @alanblakeguitarist
    @alanblakeguitarist 5 років тому

    Cool!

  • @spookylaundry3326
    @spookylaundry3326 2 роки тому +1

    Been trying to figure this out for a while. My ears are picking up on it. I think I hear a lot of players ascending in key and descending outside.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  2 роки тому

      I think that is not something I would make a rule 🙂

    • @spookylaundry3326
      @spookylaundry3326 2 роки тому

      @@JensLarsen I'll keep that in mind. Probably feels a bit cliche once you're able to jump in and out of key without thinking too much about it.

  • @flomycel
    @flomycel 7 років тому +1

    i don't get it. 2:00 why is an Ab dorian scale a F major scale? isn't it F locrian?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому +2

      No, that's just a type, it should have said Gb major scale. I probably just copy pasted the text from the Gm example?

    • @flomycel
      @flomycel 7 років тому +2

      Jens Larsen thank you for your quick answer

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому +1

      You're very welcome Florian!

  • @ferminpascual9550
    @ferminpascual9550 8 років тому +1

    Hola: 18 - 9 - 2016 control
    PALMA DE MALLORCA

  • @swordsheldhigh7934
    @swordsheldhigh7934 6 років тому +2

    I want to learn how to play faaaaaar outside.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  6 років тому +13

      +SwordsHeldHigh Then you should start to practice in the woods! ☺️

  • @subcinco
    @subcinco 8 років тому +1

    dude has a scrunchy. Wonder if he studied with Regi?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому

      +subcinco I didn't. Who is Regi?

    • @subcinco
      @subcinco 8 років тому +1

      +Jens Larsen i'm talking about Regi Wooten, Victor's brother. Also know as the Teacha. He uses those and you can usually identify his proteges by the scrunchies as well. Check him out. Thank you for your videos. good stuff

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  8 років тому

      Thanks! I will have a look